[UUPoly-L] Re:Exodus

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Subject: [UUPoly-L] Re:Exodus
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Date: Wed, 01 Mar 2006 03:47:53 -0000
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I would expect that UUs would express their reasons and objections rather than just exiting a discussion on any topic!

Bonfire

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Today's Topics:

  1. Re: Exodus (lisamorgan)
  2. Re: Exodus (Jason Klueber)
  3. Re: Exodus (Mr Y)
  4. Re: Thanks for an excellent post, Thomas! (Sally Amsbury)
  5. Re: Thanks for an excellent post, Thomas! (Sally Amsbury)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 14:31:45 -0500
From: lisamorgan <lisamorgan@lairhaven.com>
Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Exodus
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Not sure what you mean by the question, Jason. I am not into BDSM, but
I was following the conversations with interest just to learn
something new.


Lisa


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From: "Jason Klueber" jason.klueber@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 14:16:00 -0500
To: uupoly-l@uupa.org
Subject: [UUPoly-L] Exodus

Anyone else feeling marginalized by the exodus of members, following
the BDSM topic?

--J, who didn't reply to the thread for this very reason

--
Jason Klueber

"Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies because they become fashions."
- GK Chesterton

"Historically, the claim of consensus has been the first refuge of
scoundrels; it is a way to avoid debate by claiming that the matter is
already settled."
--Michael Crichton

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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 14:38:45 -0500
From: "Jason Klueber" <jason.klueber@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Exodus
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On 2/27/06, lisamorgan <lisamorgan@lairhaven.com> wrote:

Not sure what you mean by the question, Jason. I am not into BDSM, but
I was following the conversations with interest just to learn
something new.


I was just surprised by having two members respond to one of the
threads with requests to unsubscribe.  That's all.

Probably should've kept my mouth shut.  As it were.  ;)

--
Jason Klueber

"Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies because they become fashions."
    - GK Chesterton

"Historically, the claim of consensus has been the first refuge of
scoundrels; it is a way to avoid debate by claiming that the matter is
already settled."
   --Michael Crichton

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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 13:47:27 -0800 (PST)
From: Mr Y <ystradyfodwg@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Exodus
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I am not feeling marginalized... I think that we, as a group, should be able to discuss - and disagree - on any topic that deals with the myriad facets of living a poly life in society.

 Arguments - in the acedemic sense - are learning opportunities.
 We may all have diverse and divergent opinions but that should
 not make us adversaries.

 Mr Y
El Rhondda Ystradyfodwg
Paganus Apostasia Antinomus Scepticus
 "Golud Gwlad Rhyddid"


Jason Klueber <jason.klueber@gmail.com> wrote:
 Anyone else feeling marginalized by the exodus of members, following
the BDSM topic?

--J, who didn't reply to the thread for this very reason

--
Jason Klueber

"Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies because they become fashions."
- GK Chesterton

"Historically, the claim of consensus has been the first refuge of
scoundrels; it is a way to avoid debate by claiming that the matter is
already settled."
--Michael Crichton

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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 14:29:25 -0800 (PST)
From: Sally Amsbury <sallyam@pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Thanks for an excellent post, Thomas!
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What he said.

Either we are caring about each other, doing what we want, helping each other, being as happy as we want to be and helping others to be as happy as they can be, interested in each other and ourselves, open and honest so we can all make informed choises

or we are that other thing no one should have to be(hurt, terrified[as most abusers], depressed, without awareness of choices) and everyone should be informed and empowered that they don't have to be.

 Blessings,
           Sally

bear@pagansexcult.org wrote:


On Thu, 23 Feb 2006, Maka Laughingwolf wrote:

I think this is the key - agreeing to differ, and letting each person
decide for zirself whether or not zie identifies as poly, without
judging zir choices.

I guess I'm a "big tent" poly; as far as I'm concerned *all* sexual behavior falls into (at least) one of four categories. And my categories are

1) Abusive
2) Monogamous
3) Polyamorous
4) Celibate

If you pick three that it ain't, welcome, at least as I see it, to the fourth.

And FWIW, polyamorous and monogamous have more in common with each other than any other pair on the list. Teeny distinctions within polyamorous, like polyfide versus swinger versus (non-abusive) religious polygyny, are a tempest in a teacup IMO; they make as little account to me as the distinction between non-masturbating and masturbating celibacy.

Bear


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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 14:30:19 -0800 (PST)
From: Sally Amsbury <sallyam@pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Thanks for an excellent post, Thomas!
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What he said.

 Blessings,
           Sally

bear@pagansexcult.org wrote:


On Thu, 23 Feb 2006, Maka Laughingwolf wrote:

I think this is the key - agreeing to differ, and letting each person
decide for zirself whether or not zie identifies as poly, without
judging zir choices.

I guess I'm a "big tent" poly; as far as I'm concerned *all* sexual behavior falls into (at least) one of four categories. And my categories are

1) Abusive
2) Monogamous
3) Polyamorous
4) Celibate

Bear


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