From dwighternest@gmail.com Tue Jul 7 22:41:03 2009 Received: from mail-yx0-f198.google.com (mail-yx0-f198.google.com [209.85.210.198]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n682f22U019251 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 22:41:02 -0400 Received: by yxe36 with SMTP id 36so3257202yxe.10 for ; Tue, 07 Jul 2009 19:41:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.203.13 with SMTP id a13mr1008579ybg.48.1247020861069; Tue, 07 Jul 2009 19:41:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <009d01c9f819$142bdea0$3c839be0$@net> References: <006801c9f807$36559e10$a300da30$@net> <60bd0a2c0906280849n4423a8d9na5bcc96ff164f5c8@mail.gmail.com> <008201c9f809$4e354d80$ea9fe880$@net> <60bd0a2c0906280908m5d4172a8u939d3313547f1e36@mail.gmail.com> <008b01c9f80c$ccdaff10$6690fd30$@net> <60bd0a2c0906281032x4931299bqd1ee0558c8c3dbb2@mail.gmail.com> <009d01c9f819$142bdea0$3c839be0$@net> Message-ID: <5f66bff30907071941s26975c04kd724f682e5147dbe@mail.gmail.com> From: "Dwight A. Ernest" To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] I know I am strange, but... X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 02:41:03 -0000 X-Original-Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 22:41:01 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 02:41:03 -0000 I'm late to the party, but count me in as well. I can count at least two more poly hams who live within a few hundred feet of my home. 73 es 88 de KA2CNN On 2009-06-28, Christine Heinsohn wrote: > I know of at least four now. KD0R my life partner is on UUPoly as well. > > -----Original Message----- > From: uupoly-l-bounces+kb4wyr=fhrd.net@uupa.org > [mailto:uupoly-l-bounces+kb4wyr=fhrd.net@uupa.org] On Behalf Of Craig Alan > Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 12:33 PM > To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] I know I am strange, but... > > KB3FNP here And yeah there are more than one. Apparently at least 3. :) > > On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 1:06 PM, david vanhorn wrote: > >> UU-Poly_Hams! There's more than one? :) >> >> Sounds cool. KC6ETE here, in Pittsburgh or Dayton depending on how >> the current job search goes. FWIW, APRS is very good at spotting >> VHF band openings. >> >> -- >> http://www.libchrist.com/phoenix/healing.html >> _______________________________________________ >> The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. >> Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. >> UUPoly-L mailing list >> UUPoly-L@uupa.org >> http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l >> > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > From ajeffri@n0nro.org Tue Jul 7 23:16:44 2009 Received: from antares.n0nro.org (ip-209-234-70-10.networkiowa.com [209.234.70.10] (may be forged)) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n683FSwF022694 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 23:16:39 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by antares.n0nro.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC430692002 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 22:10:54 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at n0nro.org Received: from antares.n0nro.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (antares.n0nro.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5s7O1ge8wcRI for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 22:10:52 -0500 (CDT) Received: from antares.n0nro.org (antares.n0nro.org [127.0.1.1]) by antares.n0nro.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75007692001 for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2009 22:10:52 -0500 (CDT) From: ajeffri@n0nro.org To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Message-ID: <7284106.361247022651911.JavaMail.root@antares> In-Reply-To: <5f66bff30907071941s26975c04kd724f682e5147dbe@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-IP: [209.234.70.12] X-Mailer: Zimbra 5.0.16_GA_2921.UBUNTU8 (ZimbraWebClient - FF3.0 (Linux)/5.0.16_GA_2921.UBUNTU8) Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] I know I am strange, but... X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 03:16:44 -0000 X-Original-Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 21:10:51 -0600 (GMT-06:00) X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 03:16:44 -0000 I am N0NRO, in for the count. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dwight A. Ernest" To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2009 9:41:01 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] I know I am strange, but... I'm late to the party, but count me in as well. I can count at least two more poly hams who live within a few hundred feet of my home. 73 es 88 de KA2CNN On 2009-06-28, Christine Heinsohn wrote: > I know of at least four now. KD0R my life partner is on UUPoly as well. > > -----Original Message----- > From: uupoly-l-bounces+kb4wyr=fhrd.net@uupa.org > [mailto:uupoly-l-bounces+kb4wyr=fhrd.net@uupa.org] On Behalf Of Craig Alan > Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 12:33 PM > To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] I know I am strange, but... > > KB3FNP here And yeah there are more than one. Apparently at least 3. :) > > On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 1:06 PM, david vanhorn wrote: > >> UU-Poly_Hams! There's more than one? :) >> >> Sounds cool. KC6ETE here, in Pittsburgh or Dayton depending on how >> the current job search goes. FWIW, APRS is very good at spotting >> VHF band openings. >> >> -- >> http://www.libchrist.com/phoenix/healing.html >> _______________________________________________ >> The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. >> Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. >> UUPoly-L mailing list >> UUPoly-L@uupa.org >> http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l >> > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > _______________________________________________ The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. UUPoly-L mailing list UUPoly-L@uupa.org http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l From kb4wyr@fhrd.net Wed Jul 8 10:00:49 2009 Received: from trueband.net (director.trueband.net [216.163.120.8]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n68DxZKx029041 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 10:00:45 -0400 Received: (qmail 22711 invoked by uid 1006); 8 Jul 2009 13:59:30 -0000 Received: from kb4wyr@fhrd.net by rs0 by uid 1003 with qmail-scanner-1.16 (spamassassin: 3.2.5. Clear:SA:0(0.1/100.0):. Processed in 0.491228 secs); 08 Jul 2009 13:59:30 -0000 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=100.0 X-Spam-Level: Received: from unknown (HELO trueband.net) (172.16.0.6) by -v with SMTP; 8 Jul 2009 13:59:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 3742 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2009 13:59:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO VerdigrisMobile) (70.41.93.123) by -v with SMTP; 8 Jul 2009 13:59:27 -0000 From: "Christine Heinsohn" To: References: <5f66bff30907071941s26975c04kd724f682e5147dbe@mail.gmail.com> <7284106.361247022651911.JavaMail.root@antares> In-Reply-To: <7284106.361247022651911.JavaMail.root@antares> Message-ID: <01e501c9ffd4$42d73700$c885a500$@net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acn/ep6s7wT18ribSZmRI2gnPQAYVgAWZkfw Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] I know I am strange, but... X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 14:00:49 -0000 X-Original-Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 08:58:58 -0500 X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 14:00:49 -0000 Very Cool! -----Original Message----- From: uupoly-l-bounces+kb4wyr=fhrd.net@uupa.org [mailto:uupoly-l-bounces+kb4wyr=fhrd.net@uupa.org] On Behalf Of ajeffri@n0nro.org Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 10:11 PM To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] I know I am strange, but... I am N0NRO, in for the count. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dwight A. Ernest" To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2009 9:41:01 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] I know I am strange, but... I'm late to the party, but count me in as well. I can count at least two more poly hams who live within a few hundred feet of my home. 73 es 88 de KA2CNN On 2009-06-28, Christine Heinsohn wrote: > I know of at least four now. KD0R my life partner is on UUPoly as well. > > -----Original Message----- > From: uupoly-l-bounces+kb4wyr=fhrd.net@uupa.org > [mailto:uupoly-l-bounces+kb4wyr=fhrd.net@uupa.org] On Behalf Of Craig Alan > Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 12:33 PM > To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] I know I am strange, but... > > KB3FNP here And yeah there are more than one. Apparently at least 3. :) > > On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 1:06 PM, david vanhorn wrote: > >> UU-Poly_Hams! There's more than one? :) >> >> Sounds cool. KC6ETE here, in Pittsburgh or Dayton depending on how >> the current job search goes. FWIW, APRS is very good at spotting >> VHF band openings. >> >> -- >> http://www.libchrist.com/phoenix/healing.html >> _______________________________________________ >> The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. >> Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. >> UUPoly-L mailing list >> UUPoly-L@uupa.org >> http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l >> > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > _______________________________________________ The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. UUPoly-L mailing list UUPoly-L@uupa.org http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l _______________________________________________ The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. UUPoly-L mailing list UUPoly-L@uupa.org http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l From kb4wyr@fhrd.net Wed Jul 8 10:00:59 2009 Received: from trueband.net (director.trueband.net [216.163.120.8]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n68Dxecb029046 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 10:00:55 -0400 Received: (qmail 32242 invoked by uid 1006); 8 Jul 2009 13:59:37 -0000 Received: from kb4wyr@fhrd.net by rs0 by uid 1003 with qmail-scanner-1.16 (spamassassin: 3.2.5. Clear:SA:0(0.1/100.0):. Processed in 1.137613 secs); 08 Jul 2009 13:59:37 -0000 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=100.0 X-Spam-Level: Received: from unknown (HELO trueband.net) (172.16.0.6) by -v with SMTP; 8 Jul 2009 13:59:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 3940 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2009 13:59:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO VerdigrisMobile) (70.41.93.123) by -v with SMTP; 8 Jul 2009 13:59:33 -0000 From: "Christine Heinsohn" To: References: <006801c9f807$36559e10$a300da30$@net> <60bd0a2c0906280849n4423a8d9na5bcc96ff164f5c8@mail.gmail.com> <008201c9f809$4e354d80$ea9fe880$@net> <60bd0a2c0906280908m5d4172a8u939d3313547f1e36@mail.gmail.com> <008b01c9f80c$ccdaff10$6690fd30$@net> <60bd0a2c0906281032x4931299bqd1ee0558c8c3dbb2@mail.gmail.com> <009d01c9f819$142bdea0$3c839be0$@net> <5f66bff30907071941s26975c04kd724f682e5147dbe@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <5f66bff30907071941s26975c04kd724f682e5147dbe@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <01e601c9ffd4$488cb3a0$d9a61ae0$@net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acn/daO7mmxB820hQsSVFbNICBVLrAAXpvYg Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] I know I am strange, but... X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 14:00:59 -0000 X-Original-Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 08:59:08 -0500 X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 14:00:59 -0000 Great1 -----Original Message----- From: uupoly-l-bounces+kb4wyr=fhrd.net@uupa.org [mailto:uupoly-l-bounces+kb4wyr=fhrd.net@uupa.org] On Behalf Of Dwight A. Ernest Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 9:41 PM To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] I know I am strange, but... I'm late to the party, but count me in as well. I can count at least two more poly hams who live within a few hundred feet of my home. 73 es 88 de KA2CNN On 2009-06-28, Christine Heinsohn wrote: > I know of at least four now. KD0R my life partner is on UUPoly as well. > > -----Original Message----- > From: uupoly-l-bounces+kb4wyr=fhrd.net@uupa.org > [mailto:uupoly-l-bounces+kb4wyr=fhrd.net@uupa.org] On Behalf Of Craig Alan > Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 12:33 PM > To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] I know I am strange, but... > > KB3FNP here And yeah there are more than one. Apparently at least 3. :) > > On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 1:06 PM, david vanhorn wrote: > >> UU-Poly_Hams! There's more than one? :) >> >> Sounds cool. KC6ETE here, in Pittsburgh or Dayton depending on how >> the current job search goes. FWIW, APRS is very good at spotting >> VHF band openings. >> >> -- >> http://www.libchrist.com/phoenix/healing.html >> _______________________________________________ >> The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. >> Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. >> UUPoly-L mailing list >> UUPoly-L@uupa.org >> http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l >> > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > _______________________________________________ The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. UUPoly-L mailing list UUPoly-L@uupa.org http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l From truckee@ltol.com Wed Jul 8 11:52:45 2009 Received: from mail.ltol.com (mail.ltol.com [66.81.108.44]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n68FpUgC005409 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 11:52:41 -0400 Received: (qmail 22648 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2009 15:51:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO D6425L31) (63.196.100.3) by mail.ltol.com with SMTP; Wed, 08 Jul 2009 08:51:29 -0700 Message-ID: <9856CE9E54854FB3A01CD5D851C2000C@D6425L31> From: "Truckee" To: References: <006801c9f807$36559e10$a300da30$@net><60bd0a2c0906280849n4423a8d9na5bcc96ff164f5c8@mail.gmail.com><008201c9f809$4e354d80$ea9fe880$@net><60bd0a2c0906280908m5d4172a8u939d3313547f1e36@mail.gmail.com><008b01c9f80c$ccdaff10$6690fd30$@net><60bd0a2c0906281032x4931299bqd1ee0558c8c3dbb2@mail.gmail.com><009d01c9f819$142bdea0$3c839be0$@net> <5f66bff30907071941s26975c04kd724f682e5147dbe@mail.gmail.com> Organization: Truckee Drug and Alcohol Testing MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-MagicMail-UUID: 33865da2-6bd7-11de-8415-0015c5eec3ff Subject: [UUPoly-L] I know I am strange, but... X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: Truckee , uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 15:52:45 -0000 X-Original-Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 08:51:05 -0700 X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 15:52:45 -0000 Truckee KI6QHN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dwight A. Ernest" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] I know I am strange, but... > I'm late to the party, but count me in as well. I can count at least > two more poly hams who live within a few hundred feet of my home. > > 73 es 88 de KA2CNN > > > On 2009-06-28, Christine Heinsohn wrote: >> I know of at least four now. KD0R my life partner is on UUPoly as well. >> >> From alanmacrobert@gmail.com Wed Jul 8 12:21:18 2009 Received: from mail-bw0-f222.google.com (mail-bw0-f222.google.com [209.85.218.222]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n68GLGpx009209 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 12:21:16 -0400 Received: by bwz22 with SMTP id 22so5442208bwz.26 for ; Wed, 08 Jul 2009 09:21:15 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: alanmacrobert@gmail.com Received: by 10.204.117.84 with SMTP id p20mr7071320bkq.192.1247070075459; Wed, 08 Jul 2009 09:21:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Sender-Auth: b2dc0f3444b91e26 Message-ID: From: alan7388 To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] I know I am strange, but... X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 16:21:18 -0000 X-Original-Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 12:21:15 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 16:21:18 -0000 > I'm late to the party, but count me in as well. I can count at least > two more poly hams who live within a few hundred feet of my home. > > 73 es 88 de KA2CNN Finally, people who'll get why my email address is alan7388. (But never touched a radio since I was a teen, sorry. Went nowhere with the hobby.) From rhianag@yahoo.com Wed Jul 8 12:40:43 2009 Received: from web110402.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (web110402.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [67.195.8.226]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n68GdTAD011900 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 12:40:40 -0400 Received: (qmail 54632 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Jul 2009 16:39:28 -0000 Message-ID: <373623.54438.qm@web110402.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: CHNibIoVM1nz8hD8Z66oZkvhuPk6TRQ9JcscMz0D9y2vxtmDxuUxjuNgJSTARbwkzyjo7.3bkTzjU5_ku2UQ2IphT9FxHkVXnsPNh8ZOB2tMTNOxtHb9qbzuK94MY_3lOAKENQCIPayftfPBgBmvFLd2fFPfsQpCWiAXib7IEn7Db6Av.1BOfcwENW7qFmGJu2S_yih0uLvsxXjT5RouN45fjlbRAF.Z9ov.pWRujSp1xuB.kOrnux_.UpmdBFXq5NhbV0XMfAK4OgI.2mx3Bw3_h8Ck4HYwH1kwzf8DjWWATzz.JbTwBKPV_ZfJHnMyB.dg.fs- Received: from [75.15.16.130] by web110402.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 08 Jul 2009 09:39:28 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 From: Rhiana Graves To: uupoly-l@uupa.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by msb.ernest-doss.org id n68GdTAD011900 Subject: [UUPoly-L] Book List? X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 16:40:44 -0000 X-Original-Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 09:39:28 -0700 (PDT) X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 16:40:44 -0000     Can anyone recommend any books, fiction or non-fiction about Poly Families or Poly couples? I can't find anything in the library...   From JasmineGld@aol.com Wed Jul 8 13:39:06 2009 Received: from imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (imr-ma02.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.40]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n68Hbqjq017422 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 13:39:02 -0400 Received: from imo-ma04.mx.aol.com (imo-ma04.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.139]) by imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n68HbZcu002200; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 13:37:35 -0400 Received: from JasmineGld@aol.com by imo-ma04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id r.c1d.68034303 (29678); Wed, 8 Jul 2009 13:37:31 -0400 (EDT) From: JasmineGld@aol.com Message-ID: To: 1stulouchat@yahoogroups.com, uupoly-l@uupa.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5379 X-Spam-Flag: NO Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: [UUPoly-L] Helping end Don't Ask Don't Tell in US X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 17:39:06 -0000 X-Original-Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 13:37:31 EDT X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 17:39:06 -0000 --- Forward --- Last week, Lt. 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(http://personals.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntuslove00000003) From greg27241@yahoo.com Wed Jul 8 14:10:39 2009 Received: from web32704.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web32704.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.207.248]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n68I9Q05020217 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 14:10:37 -0400 Received: (qmail 46277 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Jul 2009 18:09:26 -0000 Message-ID: <528170.45297.qm@web32704.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: wyKQ56wVM1kIusLHUQV_TfxlSzo6d_f.bkvT8LAJxZHrKPbo7UQKNxlaEliS_ll7vHUHDFuQa5oroMNl28HcpaZzQOPmMrXnpAFOab9zef2hAtK0n7D65oz75cUrT3.YB4YUxdW4KSCPUV.LwOnLKFraR3gyfaEcxcnsmENjH1PslORfjVwVVKyJiW9igQKJE6OaDvLnxmavRQBJib84TepBn7Ax7sZBJSw6Zh4FxphUT0OMa62ecFsssVwWjqSkIlrfnuJbgBsLkyhc8WHW8MJSir8nknJGt8n00mfPA64ZGXZyQy6fAhxelZyE097ptuYpbCa6gTtsLIq_pq_VH5lwU05lGJ9O9Ynmbg-- Received: from [204.107.47.109] by web32704.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 08 Jul 2009 11:09:26 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1357.18 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 References: <373623.54438.qm@web110402.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> From: Greg Southworth To: uupoly-l@uupa.org In-Reply-To: <373623.54438.qm@web110402.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Book List? X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 18:10:40 -0000 X-Original-Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 11:09:26 -0700 (PDT) X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 18:10:40 -0000 The books by Robert Heinlein. 'Us, the Living", "Stranger in A Strange Land= ". They are a little dated, but interesting reads. =0A=A0"NO IGNORANCE AND = ALSO NO ENDING OF IGNORANCE,=0AUNTIL WE COME TO NO OLD AGE AND DEATH AND=0A= NO ENDING OF OLD AGE AND DEATH." =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A___________________________= _____=0AFrom: Rhiana Graves =0ATo: uupoly-l@uupa.org=0AS= ent: Wednesday, July 8, 2009 11:39:28 AM=0ASubject: [UUPoly-L] Book List?= =0A=0A=0A=0A=A0=A0 =A0 Can anyone recommend any books, fiction or non-ficti= on about Poly Families or Poly couples? I can't find anything in the librar= y... =A0=0A=0A=0A=A0 =A0 =A0 =0A=0A________________________________________= _______=0AThe UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives.=0APlease keep that= in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself.=0AUUPoly-L mailin= g list=0AUUPoly-L@uupa.org=0Ahttp://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l= =0A=0A=0A=0A From popefelix@gmail.com Wed Jul 8 14:14:20 2009 Received: from mail-bw0-f222.google.com (mail-bw0-f222.google.com [209.85.218.222]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n68IEHOP021227 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 14:14:17 -0400 Received: by bwz22 with SMTP id 22so5510826bwz.26 for ; Wed, 08 Jul 2009 11:14:14 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.126.1 with SMTP id a1mr3647013fas.78.1247076854495; Wed, 08 Jul 2009 11:14:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <528170.45297.qm@web32704.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <373623.54438.qm@web110402.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <528170.45297.qm@web32704.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: From: Kit Peters To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Book List? X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 18:14:20 -0000 X-Original-Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 13:14:14 -0500 X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 18:14:20 -0000 The trouble I have with Heinlein and poly is that he tends to be more than a little Utopian in his poly situations. By which I mean that there is rarely, if ever, the sort of interpersonal conflict and issues (e.g. personal time management, one partner feeling they don't get enough time with you, etc.) that I've experienced as a poly person. That said, I can't recommend anything better. You know, there was a discussion at a KC Poly Munch a while back about this, IIRC - maybe someone from the KCPoly list who's on this list remembers. KP On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 13:09, Greg Southworth wrote: > The books by Robert Heinlein. 'Us, the Living", "Stranger in A Strange > Land". They are a little dated, but interesting reads. > "NO IGNORANCE AND ALSO NO ENDING OF IGNORANCE, > UNTIL WE COME TO NO OLD AGE AND DEATH AND > NO ENDING OF OLD AGE AND DEATH." > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Rhiana Graves > To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2009 11:39:28 AM > Subject: [UUPoly-L] Book List? > > > > Can anyone recommend any books, fiction or non-fiction about Poly > Families or Poly couples? I can't find anything in the library... > > > > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > > > > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > -- GPG public key fingerpint: 1A12 04B6 0C80 306A B292 14FD 2C7A 1037 F666 46A7 From JasmineGld@aol.com Wed Jul 8 14:16:06 2009 Received: from imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (imr-ma02.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.40]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n68IEp59021584 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 14:16:02 -0400 Received: from imo-ma04.mx.aol.com (imo-ma04.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.139]) by imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n68IEjcS029103 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 14:14:46 -0400 Received: from JasmineGld@aol.com by imo-ma04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id g.cfb.5ba81022 (29678) for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 14:14:44 -0400 (EDT) From: JasmineGld@aol.com Message-ID: To: uupoly-l@uupa.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5379 X-Spam-Flag: NO Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Book List? X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 18:16:07 -0000 X-Original-Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 14:14:43 EDT X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 18:16:07 -0000 Heinlein, _The Moon is a Harsh Mistress_ One of my all time favorites. Jasmine **************Looking for love this summer? Find it now on AOL Personals. (http://personals.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntuslove00000003) From boydw.smith@yahoo.com Wed Jul 8 15:13:52 2009 Received: from web110508.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (web110508.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [67.195.8.113]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n68JCdDG027029 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 15:13:49 -0400 Received: (qmail 20610 invoked by uid 60001); 8 Jul 2009 19:12:38 -0000 Message-ID: <412705.20101.qm@web110508.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ZMoodeAVM1nTEOpN0TvLCWx4.zHMkgNKjzY.jvc7a_sDi6KHOmHyE74cZA_55Vy469vEXRxkBKS6G8uklm9D_28ktGt2UiGV4ClCTMiuK7iVcmgBtsFAEo6Nrp9JIHhJKDf.JZzoYTL9itc6qj5ZdZbUNXMpNG7U3mzp1X8NwDvfdRXx0AjugNXstYxtz8DbpgjfEIdT6pxoZOqgkL5UluTVuu4S3MoJ4WRdYYGmG6mbqa8G9ESVRnU.mVigUmra20POiZWNlN1ZEvMw6SXmcFKEJsoxHXY52C0rTQFgyCrX1opVUgWn4r0v_iFt.03JDqg- Received: from [24.229.110.118] by web110508.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 08 Jul 2009 12:12:38 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 From: Boyd Smith To: uupoly-l@uupa.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by msb.ernest-doss.org id n68JCdDG027029 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Book List? X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 19:13:52 -0000 X-Original-Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 12:12:38 -0700 (PDT) X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 19:13:52 -0000 Try Freehold by Micheal Z. Williamson. GREAT adventure/science fiction as well. BWS --- On Wed, 7/8/09, Rhiana Graves wrote: > From: Rhiana Graves > Subject: [UUPoly-L] Book List? > To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > Date: Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 11:39 AM > > >      Can anyone recommend any books, fiction or > non-fiction about Poly Families or Poly couples? I can't > find anything in the library...   > > >       > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal > about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > From jsu627@earthlink.net Wed Jul 8 15:24:24 2009 Received: from pop-scotia.atl.sa.earthlink.net (pop-scotia.atl.sa.earthlink.net [207.69.195.65]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n68JONmV028527 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 15:24:23 -0400 Received: from user-38lmb59.cable.mindspring.com ([209.91.44.169] helo=john.earthlink.net) by pop-scotia.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1MOch4-0003g6-00 for uupoly-l@uupa.org; Wed, 08 Jul 2009 15:20:38 -0400 X-Vipre-Scanned: 11FA12DC00147511FA1429-TDI X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 To: uupoly-l@uupa.org From: John Ullman In-Reply-To: <373623.54438.qm@web110402.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <373623.54438.qm@web110402.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Message-Id: Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Book List? X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 19:24:24 -0000 X-Original-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 12:20:21 -0700 X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 19:24:24 -0000 Rhiana Graves wrote: (On 09:39 AM 7/8/2009) > Can anyone recommend any books, fiction or non-fiction about Poly > Families or Poly couples? I can't find anything in the library... Here is the great resource list Howard Landman put together which is hosted on the alt.polyamory FAQ site: http://www.polyamory.org/~howard/Poly/ There is a large bibliography, and also references for movies, songs, etc. John U From dorothyk@charter.net Wed Jul 8 15:25:23 2009 Received: from que31.charter.net (que31.charter.net [209.225.8.23]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n68JNtvx028499 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 15:25:08 -0400 Received: from imp10 ([10.20.200.10]) by mta21.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.09.01.00 201-2219-108-20080618) with ESMTP id <20090708185946.LBDR3344.mta21.charter.net@imp10>; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 14:59:46 -0400 Received: from evo ([97.87.15.160]) by imp10 with smtp.charter.net id DWzm1c0033TCDKV05Wzmno; Wed, 08 Jul 2009 14:59:46 -0400 From: "Dorothy Krause" To: Message-ID: <001b01c9fffe$41719a70$6401a8c0@evo> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6838 Importance: Normal Thread-Index: Acn//kD/hVcUnZGFTsyi3LLX15d+Sw== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Book List? X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 19:25:23 -0000 X-Original-Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 13:59:43 -0500 X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 19:25:23 -0000 I've had this on my site since '97 or so... http://dorothyk.net/MoonMarriage.html Dorothy On 7/8/2009 1:14:43 PM, jasminegld@aol.com wrote: > Heinlein, _The Moon is a Harsh Mistress_ > > One of my all time favorites. > > Jasmine > > From bisexskr@gmail.com Wed Jul 8 16:24:29 2009 Received: from mail-qy0-f199.google.com (mail-qy0-f199.google.com [209.85.221.199]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n68KOSqW001056 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 16:24:28 -0400 Received: by qyk37 with SMTP id 37so5836020qyk.10 for ; Wed, 08 Jul 2009 13:24:27 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.17.194 with SMTP id t2mr3557529iba.20.1247084667566; Wed, 08 Jul 2009 13:24:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <60bd0a2c0907081324m3feb1cd6o2fc5150ccc9b21a4@mail.gmail.com> From: Craig Alan To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] I know I am strange, but... X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 20:24:29 -0000 X-Original-Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 16:24:27 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 20:24:29 -0000 I've only done some 2meter stuff myself. Up there in NW KS were I was, I felt like the only person. now that I'm on the east coast, I've got an HRO store just down the street and many active nets. Working on getting back into it all. On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 12:21 PM, alan7388 wrote: > > I'm late to the party, but count me in as well. I can count at least > > two more poly hams who live within a few hundred feet of my home. > > > > 73 es 88 de KA2CNN > > Finally, people who'll get why my email address is alan7388. > > (But never touched a radio since I was a teen, sorry. Went nowhere > with the hobby.) > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > From polydvh@gmail.com Wed Jul 8 17:04:41 2009 Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.243]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n68L4auo007292 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 17:04:36 -0400 Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id c37so2725563anc.2 for ; Wed, 08 Jul 2009 14:03:36 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.127.4 with SMTP id z4mr12986191anc.129.1247087016642; Wed, 08 Jul 2009 14:03:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9856CE9E54854FB3A01CD5D851C2000C@D6425L31> References: <006801c9f807$36559e10$a300da30$@net> <60bd0a2c0906280849n4423a8d9na5bcc96ff164f5c8@mail.gmail.com> <008201c9f809$4e354d80$ea9fe880$@net> <60bd0a2c0906280908m5d4172a8u939d3313547f1e36@mail.gmail.com> <008b01c9f80c$ccdaff10$6690fd30$@net> <60bd0a2c0906281032x4931299bqd1ee0558c8c3dbb2@mail.gmail.com> <009d01c9f819$142bdea0$3c839be0$@net> <5f66bff30907071941s26975c04kd724f682e5147dbe@mail.gmail.com> <9856CE9E54854FB3A01CD5D851C2000C@D6425L31> Message-ID: From: david vanhorn To: Truckee , uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by msb.ernest-doss.org id n68L4auo007292 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] I know I am strange, but... X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 21:04:41 -0000 X-Original-Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 17:03:36 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 21:04:41 -0000 On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Truckee wrote: > Truckee   KI6QHN We used to live in Dutch Flat, 92-94. :) From FlyRod52@aol.com Wed Jul 8 22:59:41 2009 Received: from imr-ma05.mx.aol.com (imr-ma05.mx.aol.com [64.12.100.31]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n692wSAG031703 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 22:59:38 -0400 Received: from imo-ma04.mx.aol.com (imo-ma04.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.139]) by imr-ma05.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n692wK1Q025004 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 22:58:20 -0400 Received: from FlyRod52@aol.com by imo-ma04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id g.d4f.56287c4c (34896) for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2009 22:58:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-db02.mx.aol.com (smtprly-db02.mx.aol.com [205.188.249.153]) by cia-da01.mx.aol.com (v124.15) with ESMTP id MAILCIADA015-5bcb4a555cc33cd; Wed, 08 Jul 2009 22:58:15 -0400 Received: from webmail-me03 (webmail-me03.webmail.aol.com [64.12.88.195]) by smtprly-db02.mx.aol.com (v124.15) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYDB022-5bcb4a555cc33cd; Wed, 08 Jul 2009 22:58:11 -0400 References: <373623.54438.qm@web110402.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> To: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-AOL-IP: 153.2.246.33 In-Reply-To: <373623.54438.qm@web110402.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: flyrod52@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 43735-STANDARD Received: from 153.2.246.33 by webmail-me03.sysops.aol.com (64.12.88.195) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Wed, 08 Jul 2009 22:58:12 -0400 Message-Id: <8CBCE583B1E3650-888-2550@webmail-me03.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag: NO Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Book List? X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 02:59:42 -0000 X-Original-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 22:58:12 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 02:59:42 -0000 I can recommend Time Enough for Love, Number of the Beast, and To Sail Beyond the Sunset.? All are SciFi and by Robert Heinlein.? Most of Robert Rimmers books are good too. Rodney ? Can anyone recommend any books, fiction or non-fiction about Poly Families or Poly couples? I can't find anything in the library... ? From union-consult@charter.net Thu Jul 9 12:15:10 2009 Received: from que21.charter.net (que21.charter.net [209.225.8.22]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n69GDxVB014293 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2009 12:15:10 -0400 Received: from imp09 ([10.20.200.9]) by mta21.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.09.01.00 201-2219-108-20080618) with ESMTP id <20090709160904.GOLU3344.mta21.charter.net@imp09> for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2009 12:09:04 -0400 Received: from kelly ([68.187.237.221]) by imp09 with smtp.charter.net id Ds941c0074nHiR805s94ig; Thu, 09 Jul 2009 12:09:04 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Union Consult" To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] UUPoly-L Digest, Vol 58, Issue 2 Thank you X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 16:15:10 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 12:08:55 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 16:15:10 -0000 Thank you all for postings that did not include a bunch of trailing messages. Made reading this thread and digest enjoyable. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 12:00 PM Subject: UUPoly-L Digest, Vol 58, Issue 2 From myopenbook@yahoo.com Thu Jul 9 21:24:08 2009 Received: from n63.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com (n63.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com [98.136.44.33]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n6A1Mt0T015725 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2009 21:24:06 -0400 Received: from [216.252.122.219] by n63.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jul 2009 01:22:55 -0000 Received: from [69.147.65.165] by t4.bullet.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jul 2009 01:22:55 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp500.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 10 Jul 2009 01:22:55 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 461948.36679.bm@omp500.mail.sp1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 34006 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Jul 2009 01:22:55 -0000 Message-ID: <159114.33067.qm@web45508.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: I7tbExgVM1nLDY_heh9mh0H_NCaHY7n2mcASxLyguthKxsNP0VPizT2S66P8AmicAobgttd8gmEQp2msbSmimvpuMX7yMFiHxiqf0PAbI0iXQnHYBKfQXzBHR2lbYFEi7ai7JwHiT.UV2wDlZltPbdxBW5ljj6qfowTB5w0fQRUAdOK6lK2CLnnTzGkUncDGRyWu2_BIRZ71BK7a75y.HkuCMNMccOhGVuGtgxFgVscFH55HONvynxEbOBKJhoAJcnfhcK_p7jt9x5LaPkOgcB6wg20nLUy9LEC5YvmZ0rwzYeEvyHbOvABLkZhaIyfnRz9QJwOZLcwQ4lTREg-- Received: from [76.187.246.126] by web45508.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 09 Jul 2009 18:22:54 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 From: Jenny Block To: uupoly-l@uupa.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Book List X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 01:24:08 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 18:22:54 -0700 (PDT) X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 01:24:08 -0000 Hi- I hope it's not too weird, but I wanted to mention the book I wrote as well= .. It's called "Open: Love, Sex, and Life in an Open Marriage." It's a memoi= r. But it also contains some research and historical background as well. Yo= u can visit my website if you want more info. All the best, =0AJenny BlockLambda Literary Award winning author of "Open: Love, Sex, and= Life in an Open Marriage" =0Awww.jennyonthepage.com --- On Thu, 7/9/09, uupoly-l-request@uupa.org w= rote: From: uupoly-l-request@uupa.org Subject: UUPoly-L Digest, Vol 58, Issue 2 To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 11:00 AM Send UUPoly-L mailing list submissions to =A0=A0=A0 uupoly-l@uupa.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit =A0=A0=A0 http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to =A0=A0=A0 uupoly-l-request@uupa.org You can reach the person managing the list at =A0=A0=A0 uupoly-l-owner@uupa.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of UUPoly-L digest..." Today's Topics: =A0=A0=A01. Re: I know I am strange, but... (alan7388) =A0=A0=A02. Book List? (Rhiana Graves) =A0=A0=A03. Helping end Don't Ask Don't Tell in US (JasmineGld@aol.com) =A0=A0=A04. Re: Book List? (Greg Southworth) =A0=A0=A05. Re: Book List? (Kit Peters) =A0=A0=A06. Re: Book List? (JasmineGld@aol.com) =A0=A0=A07. Re: Book List? (Boyd Smith) =A0=A0=A08. Re: Book List? (John Ullman) =A0=A0=A09. Re: Book List? (Dorothy Krause) =A0 10. Re: I know I am strange, but... (Craig Alan) =A0 11. Re: I know I am strange, but... (david vanhorn) =A0 12. Re: Book List? (flyrod52@aol.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 12:21:15 -0400 From: alan7388 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] I know I am strange, but... To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1 > I'm late to the party, but count me in as well. I can count at least > two more poly hams who live within a few hundred feet of my home. > > 73 es 88 de KA2CNN Finally, people who'll get why my email address is alan7388. (But never touched a radio since I was a teen, sorry. Went nowhere with the hobby.) ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 09:39:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Rhiana Graves Subject: [UUPoly-L] Book List? To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Message-ID: <373623.54438.qm@web110402.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Diso-8859-1 ?=A0 ? Can anyone recommend any books, fiction or non-fiction about Poly Fa= milies or Poly couples? I can't find anything in the library... ? =A0 =A0 =A0=20 ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 13:37:31 EDT From: JasmineGld@aol.com Subject: [UUPoly-L] Helping end Don't Ask Don't Tell in US To: 1stulouchat@yahoogroups.com, uupoly-l@uupa.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" --- Forward --- Last week, Lt. Dan Choi asked us to share the=A0 news of the verdict from his military trial with the Courage Campaign=A0 community. He also asked you to sign a letter to Speaker Nancy Pelosi asking=A0 her to take leadership to repeal the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy that made=A0 this disappointing verdict possible. Before July 4th, nearly 90,000=A0 people signed this letter to Speaker Pelosi -- including you. And, today, our=A0 friends at the Servicemembers Legal Defense Network sent an email message to=A0 their members asking them to sign it as well. It's time to take=A0 Lt. Dan Choi's cause to the US Congress and call on Speaker Pelosi to take a=A0 stand. We want at least 150,000 people to join Lt. Choi. That's why we're=A0 extending the deadline to sign this letter a few more days. To help Lt. Choi=A0 deliver as many signatures as possible to Speaker Pelosi, will you forward=A0 this message to your friends right now? GOAL: 150,000 signatures.=A0 DEADLINE: 5 p.m. Friday, July=A0 10: http://www.couragecampaign.org/RepealDADT Rick=A0 Jacobs Chair, Courage Campaign **************Looking for love this summer? Find it now on AOL Personals.= =20 (http://personals.aol.com/?ncid=3Demlcntuslove00000003) ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 11:09:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg Southworth Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Book List? To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Message-ID: <528170.45297.qm@web32704.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Diso-8859-1 The books by Robert Heinlein. 'Us, the Living", "Stranger in A Strange Land= ". They are a little dated, but interesting reads.=20 ?"NO IGNORANCE AND ALSO NO ENDING OF IGNORANCE, UNTIL WE COME TO NO OLD AGE AND DEATH AND NO ENDING OF OLD AGE AND DEATH."=20 ________________________________ From: Rhiana Graves To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2009 11:39:28 AM Subject: [UUPoly-L] Book List? ?? ? Can anyone recommend any books, fiction or non-fiction about Poly Fami= lies or Poly couples? I can't find anything in the library... ? ? ? ?=20 _______________________________________________ The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. UUPoly-L mailing list UUPoly-L@uupa.org http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l =A0 =A0 =A0=20 ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 13:14:14 -0500 From: Kit Peters Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Book List? To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Message-ID: =A0=A0=A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DUTF-8 The trouble I have with Heinlein and poly is that he tends to be more than = a little Utopian in his poly situations.=A0 By which I mean that there is rarely, if ever, the sort of interpersonal conflict and issues (e.g. personal time management, one partner feeling they don't get enough time with you, etc.) that I've experienced as a poly person.=A0 That said, I can= 't recommend anything better. You know, there was a discussion at a KC Poly Munch a while back about this= , IIRC - maybe someone from the KCPoly list who's on this list remembers. KP On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 13:09, Greg Southworth wrote: > The books by Robert Heinlein. 'Us, the Living", "Stranger in A Strange > Land". They are a little dated, but interesting reads. >=A0 "NO IGNORANCE AND ALSO NO ENDING OF IGNORANCE, > UNTIL WE COME TO NO OLD AGE AND DEATH AND > NO ENDING OF OLD AGE AND DEATH." > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Rhiana Graves > To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2009 11:39:28 AM > Subject: [UUPoly-L] Book List? > > > >=A0 =A0 =A0 Can anyone recommend any books, fiction or non-fiction about P= oly > Families or Poly couples? I can't find anything in the library... > > > > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > > > > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > --=20 GPG public key fingerpint: 1A12 04B6 0C80 306A B292=A0 14FD 2C7A 1037 F666 46A7 ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 14:14:43 EDT From: JasmineGld@aol.com Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Book List? To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Heinlein, _The Moon is a Harsh Mistress_ =20 One of my all time favorites.=20 =20 Jasmine=20 =20 =20 **************Looking for love this summer? Find it now on AOL Personals.= =20 (http://personals.aol.com/?ncid=3Demlcntuslove00000003) ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 12:12:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Boyd Smith Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Book List? To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Message-ID: <412705.20101.qm@web110508.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Diso-8859-1 Try Freehold by Micheal Z. Williamson.=A0 GREAT adventure/science fiction a= s well. BWS --- On Wed, 7/8/09, Rhiana Graves wrote: > From: Rhiana Graves > Subject: [UUPoly-L] Book List? > To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > Date: Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 11:39 AM >=20 >=20 > ?? ? Can anyone recommend any books, fiction or > non-fiction about Poly Families or Poly couples? I can't > find anything in the library... ? >=20 >=20 > ? ? ?=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal > about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l >=20 =A0 =A0 =A0=20 ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 12:20:21 -0700 From: John Ullman Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Book List? To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii"; format=3Dflowed Rhiana Graves wrote:=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0(On 09:39 AM 7/8/2009) >=A0=A0=A0Can anyone recommend any books, fiction or non-fiction about Poly= =20 > Families or Poly couples? I can't find anything in the library... Here is the great resource list Howard Landman put together which is=20 hosted on the alt.polyamory FAQ site: http://www.polyamory.org/~howard/Poly/ There is a large bibliography, and also references for movies, songs, etc. John U ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 13:59:43 -0500 From: "Dorothy Krause" Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Book List? To: Message-ID: <001b01c9fffe$41719a70$6401a8c0@evo> Content-Type: text/plain;=A0=A0=A0 charset=3D"us-ascii" I've had this on my site since '97 or so... http://dorothyk.net/MoonMarriage.html Dorothy On 7/8/2009 1:14:43 PM, jasminegld@aol.com wrote: > Heinlein, _The Moon is a Harsh Mistress_ >=20 > One of my all time favorites. >=20 > Jasmine >=20 >=20 ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 16:24:27 -0400 From: Craig Alan Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] I know I am strange, but... To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Message-ID: =A0=A0=A0 <60bd0a2c0907081324m3feb1cd6o2fc5150ccc9b21a4@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1 I've only done some 2meter stuff myself.=A0 Up there in NW KS were I was, I felt like the only person.=A0 now that I'm on the east coast, I've got an H= RO store just down the street and many active nets.=A0 Working on getting back into it all. On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 12:21 PM, alan7388 wrote: > > I'm late to the party, but count me in as well. I can count at least > > two more poly hams who live within a few hundred feet of my home. > > > > 73 es 88 de KA2CNN > > Finally, people who'll get why my email address is alan7388. > > (But never touched a radio since I was a teen, sorry. Went nowhere > with the hobby.) > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 17:03:36 -0400 From: david vanhorn Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] I know I am strange, but... To: Truckee , uupoly-l@uupa.org Message-ID: =A0=A0=A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1 On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Truckee wrote: > Truckee ? KI6QHN We used to live in Dutch Flat, 92-94.=A0 :) ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 22:58:12 -0400 From: flyrod52@aol.com Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Book List? To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Message-ID: <8CBCE583B1E3650-888-2550@webmail-me03.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii" I can recommend Time Enough for Love, Number of the Beast, and To Sail Beyo= nd the Sunset.? All are SciFi and by Robert Heinlein.? Most of Robert Rimme= rs books are good too. Rodney =A0 ? Can anyone recommend any books, fiction or non-fiction about Poly Fam= ilies=20 or Poly couples? I can't find anything in the library... ? ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. UUPoly-L mailing list UUPoly-L@uupa.org http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l End of UUPoly-L Digest, Vol 58, Issue 2 *************************************** =0A=0A=0A From info@thetemplepriestess.com Thu Jul 9 23:46:41 2009 Received: from smtpoutwbe09.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (smtpoutwbe09.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [208.109.78.21]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n6A3jUac024622 for ; Thu, 9 Jul 2009 23:46:41 -0400 Received: (qmail 18236 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2009 03:44:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gem-wbe08.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net) (64.202.189.47) by smtpoutwbe09.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net with SMTP; 10 Jul 2009 03:44:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 9663 invoked by uid 99); 10 Jul 2009 03:44:28 -0000 X-Originating-IP: 76.196.238.42 User-Agent: Web-Based Email 4.14.34 Message-Id: <20090709204428.c92c11acff2a13d67331a2ae35d6984a.55fc8a7f5a.wbe@email.secureserver.net> From: info@thetemplepriestess.com To: uupoly-l@uupa.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: [UUPoly-L] b.ooks on poly X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 03:46:41 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 20:44:28 -0700 X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 03:46:41 -0000 I loved 'Open' (it's brand new) and Opening Up. and Heilein's as noted below. Blessings, Barbara www.TheTemplePriestess.com -------- Original Message -------- Subject: UUPoly-L Digest, Vol 58, Issue 2 From: uupoly-l-request@uupa.org Date: Thu, July 09, 2009 9:00 am To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Send UUPoly-L mailing list submissions to uupoly-l@uupa.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to uupoly-l-request@uupa.org You can reach the person managing the list at uupoly-l-owner@uupa.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of UUPoly-L digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: I know I am strange, but... (alan7388) 2. Book List? (Rhiana Graves) 3. Helping end Don't Ask Don't Tell in US (JasmineGld@aol.com) 4. Re: Book List? (Greg Southworth) 5. Re: Book List? (Kit Peters) 6. Re: Book List? (JasmineGld@aol.com) 7. Re: Book List? (Boyd Smith) 8. Re: Book List? (John Ullman) 9. Re: Book List? (Dorothy Krause) 10. Re: I know I am strange, but... (Craig Alan) 11. Re: I know I am strange, but... (david vanhorn) 12. Re: Book List? (flyrod52@aol.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 12:21:15 -0400 From: alan7388 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] I know I am strange, but... To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > I'm late to the party, but count me in as well. I can count at least > two more poly hams who live within a few hundred feet of my home. > > 73 es 88 de KA2CNN Finally, people who'll get why my email address is alan7388. (But never touched a radio since I was a teen, sorry. Went nowhere with the hobby.) ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 09:39:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Rhiana Graves Subject: [UUPoly-L] Book List? To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Message-ID: <373623.54438.qm@web110402.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 ? ? Can anyone recommend any books, fiction or non-fiction about Poly Families or Poly couples? I can't find anything in the library... ? ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 13:37:31 EDT From: JasmineGld@aol.com Subject: [UUPoly-L] Helping end Don't Ask Don't Tell in US To: 1stulouchat@yahoogroups.com, uupoly-l@uupa.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" --- Forward --- Last week, Lt. Dan Choi asked us to share the news of the verdict from his military trial with the Courage Campaign community. He also asked you to sign a letter to Speaker Nancy Pelosi asking her to take leadership to repeal the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy that made this disappointing verdict possible. Before July 4th, nearly 90,000 people signed this letter to Speaker Pelosi -- including you. And, today, our friends at the Servicemembers Legal Defense Network sent an email message to their members asking them to sign it as well. It's time to take Lt. Dan Choi's cause to the US Congress and call on Speaker Pelosi to take a stand. We want at least 150,000 people to join Lt. Choi. That's why we're extending the deadline to sign this letter a few more days. To help Lt. Choi deliver as many signatures as possible to Speaker Pelosi, will you forward this message to your friends right now? GOAL: 150,000 signatures. DEADLINE: 5 p.m. Friday, July 10: http://www.couragecampaign.org/RepealDADT Rick Jacobs Chair, Courage Campaign **************Looking for love this summer? Find it now on AOL Personals. (http://personals.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntuslove00000003) ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 11:09:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg Southworth Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Book List? To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Message-ID: <528170.45297.qm@web32704.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 The books by Robert Heinlein. 'Us, the Living", "Stranger in A Strange Land". They are a little dated, but interesting reads. ?"NO IGNORANCE AND ALSO NO ENDING OF IGNORANCE, UNTIL WE COME TO NO OLD AGE AND DEATH AND NO ENDING OF OLD AGE AND DEATH." ________________________________ From: Rhiana Graves To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2009 11:39:28 AM Subject: [UUPoly-L] Book List? ?? ? Can anyone recommend any books, fiction or non-fiction about Poly Families or Poly couples? I can't find anything in the library... ? ? ? ? _______________________________________________ The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. UUPoly-L mailing list UUPoly-L@uupa.org http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 13:14:14 -0500 From: Kit Peters Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Book List? To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 The trouble I have with Heinlein and poly is that he tends to be more than a little Utopian in his poly situations. By which I mean that there is rarely, if ever, the sort of interpersonal conflict and issues (e.g. personal time management, one partner feeling they don't get enough time with you, etc.) that I've experienced as a poly person. That said, I can't recommend anything better. You know, there was a discussion at a KC Poly Munch a while back about this, IIRC - maybe someone from the KCPoly list who's on this list remembers. KP On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 13:09, Greg Southworth wrote: > The books by Robert Heinlein. 'Us, the Living", "Stranger in A Strange > Land". They are a little dated, but interesting reads. > "NO IGNORANCE AND ALSO NO ENDING OF IGNORANCE, > UNTIL WE COME TO NO OLD AGE AND DEATH AND > NO ENDING OF OLD AGE AND DEATH." > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Rhiana Graves > To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2009 11:39:28 AM > Subject: [UUPoly-L] Book List? > > > > Can anyone recommend any books, fiction or non-fiction about Poly > Families or Poly couples? I can't find anything in the library... > > > > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > > > > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > -- GPG public key fingerpint: 1A12 04B6 0C80 306A B292 14FD 2C7A 1037 F666 46A7 ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 14:14:43 EDT From: JasmineGld@aol.com Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Book List? To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Heinlein, _The Moon is a Harsh Mistress_ One of my all time favorites. Jasmine **************Looking for love this summer? Find it now on AOL Personals. (http://personals.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntuslove00000003) ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 12:12:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Boyd Smith Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Book List? To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Message-ID: <412705.20101.qm@web110508.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Try Freehold by Micheal Z. Williamson. GREAT adventure/science fiction as well. BWS --- On Wed, 7/8/09, Rhiana Graves wrote: > From: Rhiana Graves > Subject: [UUPoly-L] Book List? > To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > Date: Wednesday, July 8, 2009, 11:39 AM > > > ?? ? Can anyone recommend any books, fiction or > non-fiction about Poly Families or Poly couples? I can't > find anything in the library... ? > > > ? ? ? > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal > about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 12:20:21 -0700 From: John Ullman Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Book List? To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Rhiana Graves wrote: (On 09:39 AM 7/8/2009) > Can anyone recommend any books, fiction or non-fiction about Poly > Families or Poly couples? I can't find anything in the library... Here is the great resource list Howard Landman put together which is hosted on the alt.polyamory FAQ site: http://www.polyamory.org/~howard/Poly/ There is a large bibliography, and also references for movies, songs, etc. John U ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 13:59:43 -0500 From: "Dorothy Krause" Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Book List? To: Message-ID: <001b01c9fffe$41719a70$6401a8c0@evo> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I've had this on my site since '97 or so... http://dorothyk.net/MoonMarriage.html Dorothy On 7/8/2009 1:14:43 PM, jasminegld@aol.com wrote: > Heinlein, _The Moon is a Harsh Mistress_ > > One of my all time favorites. > > Jasmine > > ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 16:24:27 -0400 From: Craig Alan Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] I know I am strange, but... To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Message-ID: <60bd0a2c0907081324m3feb1cd6o2fc5150ccc9b21a4@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I've only done some 2meter stuff myself. Up there in NW KS were I was, I felt like the only person. now that I'm on the east coast, I've got an HRO store just down the street and many active nets. Working on getting back into it all. On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 12:21 PM, alan7388 wrote: > > I'm late to the party, but count me in as well. I can count at least > > two more poly hams who live within a few hundred feet of my home. > > > > 73 es 88 de KA2CNN > > Finally, people who'll get why my email address is alan7388. > > (But never touched a radio since I was a teen, sorry. Went nowhere > with the hobby.) > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 17:03:36 -0400 From: david vanhorn Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] I know I am strange, but... To: Truckee , uupoly-l@uupa.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Truckee wrote: > Truckee ? KI6QHN We used to live in Dutch Flat, 92-94. :) ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 22:58:12 -0400 From: flyrod52@aol.com Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Book List? To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Message-ID: <8CBCE583B1E3650-888-2550@webmail-me03.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I can recommend Time Enough for Love, Number of the Beast, and To Sail Beyond the Sunset.? All are SciFi and by Robert Heinlein.? Most of Robert Rimmers books are good too. Rodney ? Can anyone recommend any books, fiction or non-fiction about Poly Families or Poly couples? I can't find anything in the library... ? ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. UUPoly-L mailing list UUPoly-L@uupa.org http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l End of UUPoly-L Digest, Vol 58, Issue 2 *************************************** From kb4wyr@fhrd.net Fri Jul 10 18:20:05 2009 Received: from trueband.net (director.trueband.net [216.163.120.8]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n6AMItZ9024851 for ; Fri, 10 Jul 2009 18:20:05 -0400 Received: (qmail 25630 invoked by uid 1006); 10 Jul 2009 22:18:55 -0000 Received: from kb4wyr@fhrd.net by rs0 by uid 1003 with qmail-scanner-1.16 (spamassassin: 3.2.5. Clear:SA:0(0.1/100.0):. Processed in 0.799514 secs); 10 Jul 2009 22:18:55 -0000 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=100.0 X-Spam-Level: Received: from unknown (HELO trueband.net) (172.16.0.6) by -v with SMTP; 10 Jul 2009 22:18:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 3977 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2009 22:18:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO VerdigrisMobile) (70.41.93.123) by -v with SMTP; 10 Jul 2009 22:18:49 -0000 From: "Christine Heinsohn" To: , , , , Message-ID: <013501ca01ac$58a08d00$09e1a700$@net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcoBrFFH56Zk3fF1SYe1BS3XGm2T1g== Content-Language: en-us Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: [UUPoly-L] Shamelessly borrowing a concept from a friend.... X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 22:20:05 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 17:18:15 -0500 X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 22:20:05 -0000 ..I was on a social network this afternoon when I ran across a post from a friend who indicated that they were infrastructure. I really don't have any clue to what they were referring for themselves, but the term resonated with me in so many ways, but in particular in reference to my experience of polyamory.. I have been married to my spouse for 38 years. In the last ten years he has been actively engaging in relationships outside our marriage. This has been done with my knowledge and consent. I have often felt like the old favorite blown out running shoe, that is kept because of the memories of the places run, but keeps getting shoved farther and farther toward the back of the closet. However, that analogy didn't really describe my poly experience. The concept of infrastructure does..you know.. The experience where infrastructure's importance is noted and stated, but the time and attention go toward the new diplomatic relationships The experience where infrastructure is counted on to be there, to lend support and structure, but the maintenance for longevity is oft neglected The experience where infrastructure's sheltering nature is welcomed and praised, but soon forgotten when the immediate need has dissipated But on the other hand. As time goes by I have seen a recognition that infrastructure is NOT something that can be neglected and pushed aside without devastating consequences As time goes by I have seen resources being infused into infrastructure As time goes by I am witnessing the appreciation for the permanence and sustainability of infrastructure As time goes by I see the dawning of self discovery that illuminates the integrity of the infrastructure I have had way too much fun with the infrastructure analogy, but the contrast between long term ( and I do mean LONG term relationships) and new love relationships can be uncomfortable on the part of the Long Tern SO because of the attention grabbing nature of the "new, shiny". New Shiny elicits more thrilling emotions. New Shiny prompts exploration and discovery. Infrastructure is known, probably somewhat used and soiled, slightly tarnished, perhaps even dull. Infrastructure is not immediately thrilling, until you have a personal 911 and then you best have a solid infrastructure to depend on . So, what do you think? Christine Heinsohn From piattjc63@yahoo.com Tue Jul 14 20:33:35 2009 Received: from n58.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com (n58.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com [98.136.44.46]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n6F0WObl015478 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:33:35 -0400 Received: from [69.147.84.145] by n58.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jul 2009 00:32:24 -0000 Received: from [68.142.230.29] by t8.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jul 2009 00:32:24 -0000 Received: from [67.195.9.82] by t2.bullet.re2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jul 2009 00:32:23 -0000 Received: from [67.195.9.104] by t2.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jul 2009 00:32:23 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp108.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jul 2009 00:32:23 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 399362.52260.bm@omp108.mail.gq1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 4869 invoked by uid 60001); 15 Jul 2009 00:32:23 -0000 Message-ID: <257758.4710.qm@web111205.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: uOGGxC0VM1meE59HW_KMZ4tZgsY.eSWtmPWp0HaGjd.B5SXW3VWyoh__G8INWP_x_iZUYl2297oi_zUe26jnQUhAQnhohr7YmIE8Pupdh5UAXB8Uo4e4PKxTBdTAkSXuaHB577_F00aPbLdgjfmkhwQptKTjNUJdnk6IIy6As6vNBFXc4Hl8KlyUWPnxRS2P9CTA.h61No.7DFlB2iAqekWjShBdde.kbRiSJ7GVLcVdpDKUQBU.giKPx_qSXNz4c3euF1opF_I8iEwWcXoOH3FGAh.u6lrCF5T.LMgS96FlTk8C1xnZOsDYpl0Wc11OVdJ3 Received: from [76.27.92.181] by web111205.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:32:22 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1358.22 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 References: From: jodi piatt To: uupoly-l@uupa.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] UUPoly-L Digest, Vol 58, Issue 4 X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 00:33:35 -0000 X-Original-Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:32:22 -0700 (PDT) X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 00:33:35 -0000 =0A..I was on a social network this afternoon when I ran across a post from= a=0Afriend who indicated that they were infrastructure.=C2=A0 I really don= 't have any=0Aclue to what they were referring for themselves, but the term= resonated with=0Ame in so many ways, but in particular in reference to my = experience of=0Apolyamory..=0A=0A=0A=0AI have been married to my spouse for= 38 years.=C2=A0 In the last ten years he has=0Abeen actively engaging in r= elationships outside our marriage.=C2=A0 This has been=0Adone with my knowl= edge and consent.=C2=A0 I have often felt like the old=0Afavorite blown out= running shoe, that is kept because of the memories of the=0Aplaces run, bu= t keeps getting shoved farther and farther toward the back of=0Athe closet.= =C2=A0 However, that analogy didn't really describe my poly=0Aexperience.= =C2=A0 The concept of infrastructure does..you know..=0A=0A=0A=0AChristine,= =0AI am a little nervous about responding to your post because so much of w= hat I write is misunderstood, but I wanted to reach out to you with some un= derstanding of what you are going through. =0A=C2=A0=0AA little background = about me.=C2=A0 I have been with my husband for almost 8 years, we have bee= n married for 2 years.=C2=A0 He is 19 years my senior, although you would n= ever know it.=C2=A0 I am his third wife, I was not the cause of his divorce= in anyway.=C2=A0 He had been divorced for over 7 years when we met.=C2=A0 = He wasn=E2=80=99t even living with anyone when we found each other.=C2=A0 W= e are truly soul mates and neither of us can imagine being apart.=C2=A0 He = has never been monogamous, but this is the first truly open and honest poly= relationship that he has ever had.=C2=A0 I generally call myself a monogam= ous poly.=C2=A0 I totally believe in the poly lifestyle but for whatever re= ason once I gave him my heart I have pretty much been monogamous.=C2=A0 I j= ust don't desire the work that relationships take and I have no desire to t= ry out other men sexually when I feel mostly satisfied at home.=C2=A0 =0A= =C2=A0=0AThat being said the poly lifestyle is no cake walk (just as monoga= mous relationships are not easy).=C2=A0 What I have found in part is what y= ou have said=E2=80=A6 the women at home are what I call the cake and all th= e other relationships are the frosting and goodies on top (At least in the = way in which we live the poly life). It has taken years for me to get my hu= sband to understand that even though he has been in more relationships than= we can count he is in some way very lacking in relationship and communicat= ion skills.=C2=A0 And this is where I generally get in trouble with the pol= y crowd but here I go.=C2=A0 =0A=C2=A0=0AThis is the way I look at it, you = have to look at sex as kind of a currency in a relationship and if there is= only one game in town you are going to work at the negotiations of getting= and giving sex or you are going to be very sad and alone.=C2=A0 If you are= not the only game in town it is so easy to take that sexual currency where= it is easily had.=C2=A0 Since generally in relationships there is one pers= on that is more poly/sexual/good looking/ social/ etc it must be very tempt= ing when it becomes difficult/old/work/etc to just find someone else to hav= e fun with and keep the old workhorse/ mother/ business partner/ etc as the= infrastructure.=C2=A0 For many women like yourself that has got to hurt.= =C2=A0 We have many times handed our life over to our husband and our child= ren and can't compete with the new goodies in town.=C2=A0 It's not like my = husband checks to see how the others treat their children, his children, th= eir house, their pocketbook etc.=C2=A0 They just have to be yummy.=C2=A0 It seemed to me for a long time we would get in disagreements= and he would just stuff the issue and walk away.=C2=A0 That resulted in me= getting over the top angry which he then=C2=A0 justified walking away from= the argument.=C2=A0 The stuffing on his part resulted in his not wanting t= o have sex with me anymore.=C2=A0 Long story short, it has taken many discu= ssions (heated and calm) making him understand that I was not going to sit = back and be the infrastructure if he wanted me around I needed to be the fr= osting too and he needed to learn how to fight and/or talk about things so = we could get over the issue and get back to having fun.=C2=A0=C2=A0=0A=0ATh= e point being I can totally see where you are coming from and you just have= to decide if the relationship is working for you.=C2=A0 I know I could not= sit idly by and see all the new goodies get the attention but I also know = now that your husband has tasted the poly life it would be hard to go back = to a monogamous life.=C2=A0 But, I totally get why you have no desire to ge= t out there.=C2=A0 So, please just take care of yourself. =0AJodi=0A=0A=0A = From kb4wyr@fhrd.net Tue Jul 14 23:38:04 2009 Received: from trueband.net (director.trueband.net [216.163.120.8]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n6F3asiW027305 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 23:38:04 -0400 Received: (qmail 20763 invoked by uid 1006); 15 Jul 2009 03:36:53 -0000 Received: from kb4wyr@fhrd.net by rs0 by uid 1003 with qmail-scanner-1.16 (spamassassin: 3.2.5. 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Processed in 0.270123 secs); 15 Jul 2009 03:36:53 -0000 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=100.0 X-Spam-Level: Received: from unknown (HELO trueband.net) (172.16.0.20) by -v with SMTP; 15 Jul 2009 03:36:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 1867 invoked from network); 15 Jul 2009 03:36:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO VerdigrisMobile) (70.41.93.123) by -v with SMTP; 15 Jul 2009 03:36:50 -0000 From: "Christine Heinsohn" To: References: <257758.4710.qm@web111205.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <257758.4710.qm@web111205.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <00ca01ca04fd$7798f3b0$66cadb10$@net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcoE4+6QU2EvhN/lTua8zjs4CUIaKgAGJFKg Content-Language: en-us Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by msb.ernest-doss.org id n6F3asiW027305 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] UUPoly-L Digest, Vol 58, Issue 4 X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 03:38:05 -0000 X-Original-Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 22:36:34 -0500 X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 03:38:05 -0000 Jodi, I appreciate your perspective. The frosting on a cake would not taste nearly as good if it wasn't on the cake! I think that often in poly relationships, the new relationships energy seems so special and wonderful, the fact that the specialness does not exist in isolation seems lost. The whole point I was trying to make was that if you are going to be good at doing poly, you have to take care of your home base relationships. You have to understand and act on their importance to the whole. You have to celebrate the home relationships as much or more than those relationships outside of the home. If you don't you are likely to end up without the home base relationships and just stuck with the icing. Christine -----Original Message----- From: uupoly-l-bounces+kb4wyr=fhrd.net@uupa.org [mailto:uupoly-l-bounces+kb4wyr=fhrd.net@uupa.org] On Behalf Of jodi piatt Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 7:32 PM To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] UUPoly-L Digest, Vol 58, Issue 4 ..I was on a social network this afternoon when I ran across a post from a friend who indicated that they were infrastructure. I really don't have any clue to what they were referring for themselves, but the term resonated with me in so many ways, but in particular in reference to my experience of polyamory.. I have been married to my spouse for 38 years. In the last ten years he has been actively engaging in relationships outside our marriage. This has been done with my knowledge and consent. I have often felt like the old favorite blown out running shoe, that is kept because of the memories of the places run, but keeps getting shoved farther and farther toward the back of the closet. However, that analogy didn't really describe my poly experience. The concept of infrastructure does..you know.. Christine, I am a little nervous about responding to your post because so much of what I write is misunderstood, but I wanted to reach out to you with some understanding of what you are going through. A little background about me. I have been with my husband for almost 8 years, we have been married for 2 years. He is 19 years my senior, although you would never know it. I am his third wife, I was not the cause of his divorce in anyway. He had been divorced for over 7 years when we met. He wasn’t even living with anyone when we found each other. We are truly soul mates and neither of us can imagine being apart. He has never been monogamous, but this is the first truly open and honest poly relationship that he has ever had. I generally call myself a monogamous poly. I totally believe in the poly lifestyle but for whatever reason once I gave him my heart I have pretty much been monogamous. I just don't desire the work that relationships take and I have no desire to try out other men sexually when I feel mostly satisfied at home. That being said the poly lifestyle is no cake walk (just as monogamous relationships are not easy). What I have found in part is what you have said… the women at home are what I call the cake and all the other relationships are the frosting and goodies on top (At least in the way in which we live the poly life). It has taken years for me to get my husband to understand that even though he has been in more relationships than we can count he is in some way very lacking in relationship and communication skills. And this is where I generally get in trouble with the poly crowd but here I go. This is the way I look at it, you have to look at sex as kind of a currency in a relationship and if there is only one game in town you are going to work at the negotiations of getting and giving sex or you are going to be very sad and alone. If you are not the only game in town it is so easy to take that sexual currency where it is easily had. Since generally in relationships there is one person that is more poly/sexual/good looking/ social/ etc it must be very tempting when it becomes difficult/old/work/etc to just find someone else to have fun with and keep the old workhorse/ mother/ business partner/ etc as the infrastructure. For many women like yourself that has got to hurt. We have many times handed our life over to our husband and our children and can't compete with the new goodies in town. It's not like my husband checks to see how the others treat their children, his children, their house, their pocketbook etc. They just have to be yummy. It seemed to me for a long time we would get in disagreements and he would just stuff the issue and walk away. That resulted in me getting over the top angry which he then justified walking away from the argument. The stuffing on his part resulted in his not wanting to have sex with me anymore. Long story short, it has taken many discussions (heated and calm) making him understand that I was not going to sit back and be the infrastructure if he wanted me around I needed to be the frosting too and he needed to learn how to fight and/or talk about things so we could get over the issue and get back to having fun. The point being I can totally see where you are coming from and you just have to decide if the relationship is working for you. I know I could not sit idly by and see all the new goodies get the attention but I also know now that your husband has tasted the poly life it would be hard to go back to a monogamous life. But, I totally get why you have no desire to get out there. So, please just take care of yourself. Jodi _______________________________________________ The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. UUPoly-L mailing list UUPoly-L@uupa.org http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l From kb4wyr@fhrd.net Tue Jul 14 23:58:19 2009 Received: from trueband.net (director.trueband.net [216.163.120.8]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n6F3v98V028869 for ; Tue, 14 Jul 2009 23:58:19 -0400 Received: (qmail 31591 invoked by uid 1006); 15 Jul 2009 03:57:08 -0000 Received: from kb4wyr@fhrd.net by rs0 by uid 1003 with qmail-scanner-1.16 (spamassassin: 3.2.5. Clear:SA:0(0.1/100.0):. Processed in 0.372636 secs); 15 Jul 2009 03:57:08 -0000 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=100.0 X-Spam-Level: Received: from unknown (HELO trueband.net) (172.16.0.17) by -v with SMTP; 15 Jul 2009 03:57:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 1016 invoked from network); 15 Jul 2009 03:57:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO VerdigrisMobile) (70.41.93.123) by -v with SMTP; 15 Jul 2009 03:57:03 -0000 From: "Christine Heinsohn" To: References: <257758.4710.qm@web111205.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <00ca01ca04fd$7798f3b0$66cadb10$@net> In-Reply-To: <00ca01ca04fd$7798f3b0$66cadb10$@net> Message-ID: <00cb01ca0500$4a207360$de615a20$@net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcoE4+6QU2EvhN/lTua8zjs4CUIaKgAGJFKgAADKIrA= Content-Language: en-us Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by msb.ernest-doss.org id n6F3v98V028869 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] UUPoly-L Digest, Vol 58, Issue 4 X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 03:58:19 -0000 X-Original-Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 22:56:41 -0500 X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 03:58:19 -0000 One other thing, I have often seen people use the concept of polyamory to explain away their inability to relate well to others. Rather than work on relationship issues they have multiple relationships which while sex is included they don't often have much depth. When concerns about rude behavior or poor communication arise, they blame the person with the relationship concerns for not "understanding polyamory". I have found that those people who are most respected in the polyamory community are those who can maintain rich deep relationships and who deal directly with relationship issues. They take relating very seriously, they don't see relationships as toys. Christine -----Original Message----- From: uupoly-l-bounces+kb4wyr=fhrd.net@uupa.org [mailto:uupoly-l-bounces+kb4wyr=fhrd.net@uupa.org] On Behalf Of Christine Heinsohn Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 10:37 PM To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] UUPoly-L Digest, Vol 58, Issue 4 Jodi, I appreciate your perspective. The frosting on a cake would not taste nearly as good if it wasn't on the cake! I think that often in poly relationships, the new relationships energy seems so special and wonderful, the fact that the specialness does not exist in isolation seems lost. The whole point I was trying to make was that if you are going to be good at doing poly, you have to take care of your home base relationships. You have to understand and act on their importance to the whole. You have to celebrate the home relationships as much or more than those relationships outside of the home. If you don't you are likely to end up without the home base relationships and just stuck with the icing. Christine -----Original Message----- From: uupoly-l-bounces+kb4wyr=fhrd.net@uupa.org [mailto:uupoly-l-bounces+kb4wyr=fhrd.net@uupa.org] On Behalf Of jodi piatt Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 7:32 PM To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] UUPoly-L Digest, Vol 58, Issue 4 ..I was on a social network this afternoon when I ran across a post from a friend who indicated that they were infrastructure. I really don't have any clue to what they were referring for themselves, but the term resonated with me in so many ways, but in particular in reference to my experience of polyamory.. I have been married to my spouse for 38 years. In the last ten years he has been actively engaging in relationships outside our marriage. This has been done with my knowledge and consent. I have often felt like the old favorite blown out running shoe, that is kept because of the memories of the places run, but keeps getting shoved farther and farther toward the back of the closet. However, that analogy didn't really describe my poly experience. The concept of infrastructure does..you know.. Christine, I am a little nervous about responding to your post because so much of what I write is misunderstood, but I wanted to reach out to you with some understanding of what you are going through. A little background about me. I have been with my husband for almost 8 years, we have been married for 2 years. He is 19 years my senior, although you would never know it. I am his third wife, I was not the cause of his divorce in anyway. He had been divorced for over 7 years when we met. He wasn’t even living with anyone when we found each other. We are truly soul mates and neither of us can imagine being apart. He has never been monogamous, but this is the first truly open and honest poly relationship that he has ever had. I generally call myself a monogamous poly. I totally believe in the poly lifestyle but for whatever reason once I gave him my heart I have pretty much been monogamous. I just don't desire the work that relationships take and I have no desire to try out other men sexually when I feel mostly satisfied at home. That being said the poly lifestyle is no cake walk (just as monogamous relationships are not easy). What I have found in part is what you have said… the women at home are what I call the cake and all the other relationships are the frosting and goodies on top (At least in the way in which we live the poly life). It has taken years for me to get my husband to understand that even though he has been in more relationships than we can count he is in some way very lacking in relationship and communication skills. And this is where I generally get in trouble with the poly crowd but here I go. This is the way I look at it, you have to look at sex as kind of a currency in a relationship and if there is only one game in town you are going to work at the negotiations of getting and giving sex or you are going to be very sad and alone. If you are not the only game in town it is so easy to take that sexual currency where it is easily had. Since generally in relationships there is one person that is more poly/sexual/good looking/ social/ etc it must be very tempting when it becomes difficult/old/work/etc to just find someone else to have fun with and keep the old workhorse/ mother/ business partner/ etc as the infrastructure. For many women like yourself that has got to hurt. We have many times handed our life over to our husband and our children and can't compete with the new goodies in town. It's not like my husband checks to see how the others treat their children, his children, their house, their pocketbook etc. They just have to be yummy. It seemed to me for a long time we would get in disagreements and he would just stuff the issue and walk away. That resulted in me getting over the top angry which he then justified walking away from the argument. The stuffing on his part resulted in his not wanting to have sex with me anymore. Long story short, it has taken many discussions (heated and calm) making him understand that I was not going to sit back and be the infrastructure if he wanted me around I needed to be the frosting too and he needed to learn how to fight and/or talk about things so we could get over the issue and get back to having fun. The point being I can totally see where you are coming from and you just have to decide if the relationship is working for you. I know I could not sit idly by and see all the new goodies get the attention but I also know now that your husband has tasted the poly life it would be hard to go back to a monogamous life. But, I totally get why you have no desire to get out there. So, please just take care of yourself. Jodi _______________________________________________ The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. UUPoly-L mailing list UUPoly-L@uupa.org http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l _______________________________________________ The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. UUPoly-L mailing list UUPoly-L@uupa.org http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l From finian0178@yahoo.com Wed Jul 15 08:03:48 2009 Received: from web34508.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web34508.mail.mud.yahoo.com [66.163.178.174]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n6FC2cu6025353 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 08:03:48 -0400 Received: (qmail 12042 invoked by uid 60001); 15 Jul 2009 12:02:37 -0000 Message-ID: <592978.11502.qm@web34508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 0heLTUgVM1lcl64n6qWghY7oaYjl9Gw5PNZAiOrx4HSxtklyPPBQNMBmXaBp2BbtDHyPDh1jnzYB18ERlvzZ1XGGdwjIDI7vI_VDDeIS7ZtJ4jafQG18U3c_EpOtXzm3JyX9PufU6VWJHZLjmDwyQi8LMgPOxnmnnJ4Qpjp3vcJs6jH3M36bKrOljjJQ33uLAj7_KmiEDyjBF8pQ.eATSHM_wwRxzaH5J_6RcNyhMiU5fXZCGS4ZIRfCGun_sZgazyoNc6fjhZ9bZSnjyAPMZEWduG5.G5XTXc0x0VsMVVgTf6T4TnpFV5Fb1B8VolQhJ0_.pm1kbDfIHnqcmDEWfB6EtM9biS82oGc- Received: from [71.82.69.168] by web34508.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 05:02:37 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.0.18 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 From: "Joelle O'Bryan" To: uupoly-l@uupa.org In-Reply-To: <00cb01ca0500$4a207360$de615a20$@net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] UUPoly-L Digest, Vol 58, Issue 4 X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 12:03:49 -0000 X-Original-Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 05:02:37 -0700 (PDT) X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 12:03:49 -0000 Christine, I had a marriage break up for just these kinds of reasons, well = in part. We had just a few simple rules for how we understood our polyamory= and my ex managed to break 2 (tell the partner before the rumor mill does = and use protection) with the same woman twice in the same weekend, while ma= naging to hurt a good friend of both my (at the time) secondary partner and= myself. Our relationship was floundering, almost dead, and while my second= ary partner was trying to council my ex to what he needed to do to save our= relationship, he just continued to break our rules love & light =0AJoelle --- Christine Heinsohn schrieb am Di, 14.7.2009: Von: Christine Heinsohn Betreff: Re: [UUPoly-L] UUPoly-L Digest, Vol 58, Issue 4 An: uupoly-l@uupa.org Datum: Dienstag, 14. Juli 2009, 23:56 One other thing, I have often seen people use the concept of polyamory to e= xplain away their inability to relate well to others.=A0 Rather than work o= n relationship issues they have multiple relationships which while sex is i= ncluded they don't often have much depth.=A0 When concerns about rude behav= ior or poor communication arise, they blame the person with the relationshi= p concerns for not "understanding polyamory".=A0 I have found that those pe= ople who are most respected in the polyamory community are those who can ma= intain rich deep relationships and who deal directly with relationship issu= es.=A0 They take relating very seriously, they don't see relationships as t= oys. Christine =0A=0A=0A From valerie@valeriewhite.org Wed Jul 15 10:04:14 2009 Received: from cosmos.phy.tufts.edu (cosmos.phy.tufts.edu [130.64.83.16]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6FE33qE000456 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:04:14 -0400 Received: from p92-11.acedsl.com ([66.114.92.11]:48283 helo=neptune.place.org) by cosmos.phy.tufts.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MR54Y-0001ce-R2 for uupoly-l@uupa.org; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:03:02 -0400 Received: from apache by neptune.place.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MR54W-0008Co-O9 for uupoly-l@uupa.org; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:03:00 -0400 Received: from 208.105.163.107 (SquirrelMail authenticated user vw) by neptune.place.org with HTTP; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:03:00 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <00cb01ca0500$4a207360$de615a20$@net> References: <257758.4710.qm@web111205.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <00ca01ca04fd$7798f3b0$66cadb10$@net> <00cb01ca0500$4a207360$de615a20$@net> From: "Valerie White" To: uupoly-l@uupa.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.19 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: [UUPoly-L] another take on jealousy X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: valerie@valeriewhite.org, uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 14:04:15 -0000 X-Original-Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 10:03:00 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 14:04:15 -0000 I credit Ken Haslam for the following wisdom: There is no point in being jealous of Suzy. Suzy is the best there is at being Suzy, and would do a piss-poor job of being you, just as you would do a piss-poor job of being Suzy and a bang-up job of being you. V From piattjc63@yahoo.com Wed Jul 15 12:21:00 2009 Received: from n73.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com (n73.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com [98.136.44.191]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n6FGJoph009987 for ; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 12:21:00 -0400 Received: from [69.147.84.144] by n73.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jul 2009 16:19:49 -0000 Received: from [67.195.9.81] by t6.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jul 2009 16:19:49 -0000 Received: from [67.195.9.107] by t1.bullet.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jul 2009 16:19:49 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp111.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 15 Jul 2009 16:19:49 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 568365.71100.bm@omp111.mail.gq1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 61367 invoked by uid 60001); 15 Jul 2009 16:19:49 -0000 Message-ID: <337993.55209.qm@web111203.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: JDA4H9cVM1lQLdRXHi2Q.ch8kKWRGwd_d8TrA_VlGfHKz4kl6jQC6r7vL9TSRhPXTLSTqld3pUALr_uck1DIuzgT6CgynPDoTJvapb656ChYENNgjfidYPwocbR91.xxkHHWv1.k4Pig9e2ZJrWZNVGs21UDKgPPKT8KnnAqzzqRSDwRIfh_TXvjJ5ElyMNkM74DJjeIEYDVjY.omrNbrfWGJ9ILxuEwIstrjS9onWq_fVoBbt0O8FV0cJt7GKebSv9bWzbAYibqTPR.bv4B2Hvhnr7ihidjkSaHyoxWKjQ2t20w1qRxRBNnEzxDYBnsj.Hz Received: from [76.27.92.181] by web111203.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 15 Jul 2009 09:19:49 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1358.22 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 References: From: jodi piatt To: uupoly-l@uupa.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] UUPoly-L Digest, Vol 58, Issue 5 X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:21:01 -0000 X-Original-Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 09:19:49 -0700 (PDT) X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:21:01 -0000 Jodi, I appreciate your perspective.=A0 =0A=0AThe frosting on a cake would = not taste nearly as good if it wasn't on the cake! =0A=0AI think that often= in poly relationships, the new relationships energy seems so special and w= onderful, the fact that the specialness does not exist in isolation seems l= ost. =0A=0AThe whole point I was trying to make was that if you are going t= o be good at doing poly, you have to take care of your home base relationsh= ips.=A0 You have to understand and act on their importance to the whole.=A0= You have to celebrate the home relationships as much or more than those re= lationships outside of the home.=A0 If you don't you are likely to end up w= ithout the home base relationships and just stuck with the icing.=0A=0AChri= stine =0A=0A=0A>>>>> =0AI also think that traditionally the poly crowd has = been an intellectual bunch that have searched for a utopian community and a= re geared toward rational and ethical ways of dealing with people.=A0 They = are smart enough to figure things out.=A0 I think as poly becomes more acce= pted in broader society that many are going to step into the life without t= he skills and understanding that it takes to care for all of those involved= ..=A0 I think those in the public eye of the poly life need to place more em= phasis on the skills that it takes to ensure that vulnerable people are pro= tected and less on the desire and right to just love more. =0AJodi=0A=0A=0A= =0A From valerie@valeriewhite.org Thu Jul 16 10:06:26 2009 Received: from cosmos.phy.tufts.edu (cosmos.phy.tufts.edu [130.64.83.16]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6GE5ELR025716 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 10:06:26 -0400 Received: from p92-11.acedsl.com ([66.114.92.11]:52455 helo=neptune.place.org) by cosmos.phy.tufts.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MRRaB-0004Np-N3; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 10:05:12 -0400 Received: from apache by neptune.place.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1MRRaB-0001vz-6A; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 10:05:11 -0400 Received: from 208.105.163.107 (SquirrelMail authenticated user vw) by neptune.place.org with HTTP; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 10:05:11 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Valerie White" To: uupoly-l@uupa.org User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.19 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: [UUPoly-L] some interesting news from Ferry Beach X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: valerie@valeriewhite.org, uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:06:26 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 10:05:11 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:06:26 -0000 I'm at Ferry Beach for RE week . . . not that I'm a religious educator but there are other families from my congregation who go and it has become a tradition. I was approached yesterday by a DRE from a Boston-area congregation, someone I knew from North East Leadership School, BECAUSE there's a poly family new in her congregation, with kids in the RE program. She knows that I am involved with UUPA (she saw me at the booth at GA) and asked me to talk with her about how to welcome this family and what books she might read to become familiar with polyamory. Well, small world department, it turned out I know this triad (from Family Tree), and of course I guessed right away who they were. I did my best to let this wonderful DRE know how much I appreciated her determination to do right by them. I made a few suggestions . . . warned her that poly parents were apt to be nervous about being "out" and why, pointed out to her that multi-parent families should be mentioned when RE classes talk about the diversity of family types UU's embrace. I told her that my congregation has "family structure" included in the list of things we don't discriminate against. I said that the family will doubtless appreciate feeling safe in bringing up things in joys and concerns, like, "This is the anniversary of the day so-and-so joined our family," or, "we're glad our secondary so-and-so is here visiting from Ohio . . ." I suggested she avoid making assumptions about partner-number. I said she should treat the adults in the family like a "couple for large values of 2". I referred her to the Loving More website as a gateway. I told her about several books. I told her that there have been no published studies on the effect of being raised in a poly family on children. I said there were credible professionals who had opined that a stable poly family was BETTER for a child than a series of monogamous relationships. I said there was plenty of anecdotal evidence that poly-raised kids do fine. I said that the movement has gotten old enough now that some of these kids are grown or nearly so and some of them are willing to speak out and write about their experiences, and most of them seem to say that it was great having extra parents. Some of them are poly themselves and some are not, just as you'd expect. I told her that poly parents are making "villages" to raise their children. I told her that, closeted or not, there are poly families in MANY UU churches. (By the way, just out of curiosity, it would be interesting if everybody on this list would post the name of the congregation they attend at least occasionally. I would love to be able to tell someone like this DRE that I know of at least thus-and-so UU congregations with poly members or friends. How about it? It's my guess there would be almost as many congregations represented as there are members of this list! I'll start it off: Unitarian Church of Sharon, MA.) I told her that no responsible parent mixes his or her sexuality with his or her parenting, and poly's are no more likely to expose children to inappropriate sexual conduct than anybody else. It's exciting that she wanted to hear all this, and that UUPA is seen as a resource to professional leadership in the denomination. BTW, UUPA trustees . . . nobody got back to me on my proposed poly-parenting flyer?! Valerie PS: yesterday at worship I led the choir in singing a two-part setting I composed for Edwin Markham's "Outwitted": He drew a circle that shut me out Heretic, rebel, a thing to flout But love and I had the wit to win We drew a circle that took him in. WHAT a treat! From melodywinnell@gmail.com Thu Jul 16 10:22:25 2009 Received: from mail-gx0-f208.google.com (mail-gx0-f208.google.com [209.85.217.208]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6GEMO3a027177 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 10:22:25 -0400 Received: by gxk4 with SMTP id 4so233221gxk.2 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 07:22:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.145.11 with SMTP id s11mr8145593ybd.293.1247754143723; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 07:22:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <38ca60940907160722u22da8a8bid6ac6483498a4c2@mail.gmail.com> From: Melody Winnell To: valerie@valeriewhite.org, uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] some interesting news from Ferry Beach X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:22:25 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:22:23 -0500 X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:22:25 -0000 First Unitarian Church of Hobart, Indiana here! We also have children involved with RE- a 4yo biological, 2yo foster daughter, and 5 kids we are matched with for adoption hopefully moving in soon- ages 6,9,10, 11, and 13! On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Valerie White wrote: > I'm at Ferry Beach for RE week . . . not that I'm a religious educator but > there are other families from my congregation who go and it has become a > tradition. I was approached yesterday by a DRE from a Boston-area > congregation, someone I knew from North East Leadership School, BECAUSE > there's a poly family new in her congregation, with kids in the RE > program. She knows that I am involved with UUPA (she saw me at the booth > at GA) and asked me to talk with her about how to welcome this family and > what books she might read to become familiar with polyamory. > > Well, small world department, it turned out I know this triad (from Family > Tree), and of course I guessed right away who they were. > > I did my best to let this wonderful DRE know how much I appreciated her > determination to do right by them. I made a few suggestions . . . warned > her that poly parents were apt to be nervous about being "out" and why, > pointed out to her that multi-parent families should be mentioned when RE > classes talk about the diversity of family types UU's embrace. I told her > that my congregation has "family structure" included in the list of things > we don't discriminate against. I said that the family will doubtless > appreciate feeling safe in bringing up things in joys and concerns, like, > "This is the anniversary of the day so-and-so joined our family," or, > "we're glad our secondary so-and-so is here visiting from Ohio . . ." I > suggested she avoid making assumptions about partner-number. > > I said she should treat the adults in the family like a "couple for large > values of 2". I referred her to the Loving More website as a gateway. I > told her about several books. I told her that there have been no > published studies on the effect of being raised in a poly family on > children. I said there were credible professionals who had opined that > a stable poly family was BETTER for a child than a series of monogamous > relationships. I said there was plenty of anecdotal evidence that > poly-raised kids do fine. I said that the movement has gotten old enough > now that some of these kids are grown or nearly so and some of them are > willing to speak out and write about their experiences, and most of them > seem to say that it was great having extra parents. Some of them are > poly themselves and some are not, just as you'd expect. > > I told her that poly parents are making "villages" to raise their > children. I told her that, closeted or not, there are poly families in > MANY UU churches. > > (By the way, just out of curiosity, it would be interesting if everybody > on this list would post the name of the congregation they attend at least > occasionally. I would love to be able to tell someone like this DRE that > I know of at least thus-and-so UU congregations with poly members or > friends. How about it? It's my guess there would be almost as many > congregations represented as there are members of this list! > > I'll start it off: Unitarian Church of Sharon, MA.) > > I told her that no responsible parent mixes his or her sexuality with his > or her parenting, and poly's are no more likely to expose children to > inappropriate sexual conduct than anybody else. > > It's exciting that she wanted to hear all this, and that UUPA is seen as a > resource to professional leadership in the denomination. > > BTW, UUPA trustees . . . nobody got back to me on my proposed > poly-parenting flyer?! > > Valerie > > PS: yesterday at worship I led the choir in singing a two-part setting I > composed for Edwin Markham's "Outwitted": > > He drew a circle that shut me out > Heretic, rebel, a thing to flout > But love and I had the wit to win > We drew a circle that took him in. > > WHAT a treat! > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > From popefelix@gmail.com Thu Jul 16 10:46:30 2009 Received: from mail-bw0-f222.google.com (mail-bw0-f222.google.com [209.85.218.222]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6GEkTfc029747 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 10:46:30 -0400 Received: by bwz22 with SMTP id 22so167222bwz.26 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 07:46:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.125.144 with SMTP id y16mr4375152far.93.1247755587863; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 07:46:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <38ca60940907160722u22da8a8bid6ac6483498a4c2@mail.gmail.com> References: <38ca60940907160722u22da8a8bid6ac6483498a4c2@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: From: Kit Peters To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by msb.ernest-doss.org id n6GEkTfc029747 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] some interesting news from Ferry Beach X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:46:30 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:46:27 -0500 X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:46:30 -0000 Gaia Community Unitarian Universalist in Overland Park, KS (a suburb of Kansas City, MO). Lots of polyfolk in the congregation. KP On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 09:22, Melody Winnell wrote: > First Unitarian Church of Hobart, Indiana here! We also have children > involved with RE- a 4yo biological, 2yo foster daughter, and 5 kids we are > matched with for adoption hopefully moving in soon- ages 6,9,10, 11, and 13! > > On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Valerie White wrote: > >> I'm at Ferry Beach for RE week . . . not that I'm a religious educator but >> there are other families from my congregation who go and it has become a >> tradition.  I was approached yesterday by a DRE from a Boston-area >> congregation, someone I knew from North East Leadership School, BECAUSE >> there's a poly family new in her congregation, with kids in the RE >> program.  She knows that I am involved with UUPA (she saw me at the booth >> at GA) and asked me to talk with her about how to welcome this family and >> what books she might read to become familiar with polyamory. >> >> Well, small world department, it turned out I know this triad (from Family >> Tree), and of course I guessed right away who they were. >> >> I did my best to let this wonderful DRE know how much I appreciated her >> determination to do right by them.  I made a few suggestions . . . warned >> her that poly parents were apt to be nervous about being "out" and why, >> pointed out to her that multi-parent families should be mentioned when RE >> classes talk about the diversity of family types UU's embrace.  I told her >> that my congregation has "family structure" included in the list of things >> we don't discriminate against.  I said that the family will doubtless >> appreciate feeling safe in bringing up things in joys and concerns, like, >> "This is the anniversary of the day so-and-so joined our family," or, >> "we're glad our secondary so-and-so is here visiting from  Ohio . . ."  I >> suggested she avoid making assumptions about partner-number. >> >> I said she should treat the adults in the family like a "couple for large >> values of 2". I referred her to the Loving More  website as a gateway.  I >> told her about several books.  I told her that there have been no >> published studies on the effect of being raised in a poly family on >> children.  I said there  were credible professionals who had opined  that >> a stable poly family was BETTER for a child  than a series of monogamous >> relationships.  I said there was plenty of anecdotal evidence that >> poly-raised kids do fine.  I said that the movement has gotten old enough >> now that some of these kids are grown or nearly so and some of them are >> willing to speak out and write about their experiences, and most of them >> seem to say that it was  great having extra parents.  Some of them are >> poly themselves and some are not, just as you'd expect. >> >> I told her that poly parents are making "villages" to raise their >> children.  I told her that, closeted or not, there are poly families in >> MANY UU churches. >> >> (By the way, just out of curiosity, it would be interesting if everybody >> on this list would post the name of the congregation they attend at least >> occasionally.  I would love to be able to tell someone  like this DRE that >> I know of at least thus-and-so UU  congregations with  poly  members or >> friends.  How about it?  It's my guess there would be almost as many >> congregations represented as there are members of this list! >> >> I'll start it off:  Unitarian Church of Sharon, MA.) >> >> I told her that no responsible parent mixes his or her sexuality with his >> or her parenting, and poly's are no more likely to expose children to >> inappropriate sexual conduct than anybody else. >> >> It's exciting that she wanted to hear all this, and that UUPA is seen as a >> resource to professional leadership in the denomination. >> >> BTW, UUPA trustees . . . nobody got back to me on my proposed >> poly-parenting flyer?! >> >> Valerie >> >> PS:  yesterday at worship I led the choir in singing a two-part setting I >> composed for Edwin Markham's "Outwitted": >> >> He drew a circle that shut me out >> Heretic, rebel, a thing to flout >> But love and I had the wit to win >> We drew a circle that took him in. >> >> WHAT a treat! >> _______________________________________________ >> The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. >> Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. >> UUPoly-L mailing list >> UUPoly-L@uupa.org >> http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l >> > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > -- GPG public key fingerpint: 1A12 04B6 0C80 306A B292 14FD 2C7A 1037 F666 46A7 From ystradyfodwg@yahoo.com Thu Jul 16 10:52:43 2009 Received: from web54401.mail.yahoo.com (web54401.mail.yahoo.com [206.190.49.131]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n6GEpXYO030901 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 10:52:43 -0400 Received: (qmail 26307 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Jul 2009 14:51:33 -0000 Message-ID: <910474.25831.qm@web54401.mail.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: M.0u7sUVM1mIfDGanNeRJCQ_32XwWYUxDu864zYOpp6nd2yFUHJ9.UfZV2T6gliu64FXxjFZTG5Fdmsz_62waPA3qq1fKSD.O27R4wlqM6CGp8mB9W6PUbmn2NTURLQjRBegKOW1x4I.XOFD6vZu5A86sdV.T_lZTyu6zo4nfy4sDYORd_tL3b6fBBhSc4uh3_9g5Oap32080POaP5B9VtQ_8ATle9stjY_9FhaZtcYSFe4g1CjubB_cXY1n5QZYYzgfzEOm2Nms189debxu._Nu_JPHxKHf.GWWo4Z4AmR5PdGZzFaNYJzcZgpLVqs6IuXDxLpgMIZQEU693Qohs2JlybaIR_Xkitg- Received: from [65.7.187.107] by web54401.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 07:51:32 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1358.21 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 References: From: Mr Y To: valerie@valeriewhite.org, uupoly-l@uupa.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] some interesting news from Ferry Beach X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:52:43 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 07:51:32 -0700 (PDT) X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:52:43 -0000 UU Church of Fort Lauderdale=0Ahttp://uucfl.org/=0A=0A=0A =0AYstradyfodwg = aka MrY=0ADubitando ad veritatem venimus=0A[Through scepticism comes tru= th]=0A =0A=E2=80=9CNeither in my private life nor in my writings,=0A = have I ever made a secret of being an out and out unbeliever=E2=80=9D=0A= --- Sigmund Freud , born Sigismund Schlomo Freud (6 May 1856 = =E2=80=93 23 September 1939),=0A was an Austrian-Jewish physici= an who founded the psychoanalytic school of psychology.=0A =0A=E2=80=9CThis= world is a prison for the Faithful, but a Paradise for unbelievers=E2=80= =9D=0A --- Muhammad ibn =E2=80=98Abdull h (also spelled Mohamme= d or Muhammed) (ca. 570 Mecca =E2=80=93=0A June 8, 632 Medina),= is the central human figure of the religion of Islam and is regarded=0A = by Muslims as the messenger and prophet of God=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A_____= ___________________________=0AFrom: Valerie White =0ATo: uupoly-l@uupa.org=0ASent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 10:05:11 AM=0ASub= ject: [UUPoly-L] some interesting news from Ferry Beach=0A=0A=0A[SNIP]=0A= =0A=0A(By the way, just out of curiosity, it would be interesting if everyb= ody=0Aon this list would post the name of the congregation they attend at l= east=0Aoccasionally. I would love to be able to tell someone like this DR= E that=0AI know of at least thus-and-so UU congregations with poly membe= rs or=0Afriends. How about it? It's my guess there would be almost as man= y=0Acongregations represented as there are members of this list!=0A=0AI'll = start it off: Unitarian Church of Sharon, MA.)=0A=0A=0AValerie=0A=0A=0A = From rebecca.loveking@gmail.com Thu Jul 16 10:59:18 2009 Received: from mail-fx0-f225.google.com (mail-fx0-f225.google.com [209.85.220.225]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6GExIFD032461 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 10:59:18 -0400 Received: by fxm25 with SMTP id 25so177610fxm.26 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 07:59:16 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.156.65 with SMTP id l1mr705151hbc.34.1247756356091; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 07:59:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <910474.25831.qm@web54401.mail.yahoo.com> References: <910474.25831.qm@web54401.mail.yahoo.com> From: Rebecca LoveKing Message-ID: To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] some interesting news from Ferry Beach X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:59:19 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 10:58:56 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:59:19 -0000 [snip] My family sometimes attends UU Sterling (in Virginia) and sometimes attends UU Arlington (Virginia). I have also taught RE and regularly attended: UU Fairfax (also Virginia) First UU of San Diego UU of Reston (also Virginia) UU of Atlanta. :) - Becky From erika613@yahoo.com Thu Jul 16 11:11:31 2009 Received: from web54110.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web54110.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.37.245]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n6GFAI9U001250 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 11:11:31 -0400 Received: (qmail 56310 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Jul 2009 15:10:18 -0000 Message-ID: <614954.54976.qm@web54110.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 0hyRqq4VM1kLxVuCVTBrGYhAPwPVzPToUsZqm2AhwXXtnmycXdge9cz87yHyPKth87IZVYLXwiJFwb2rwtPx6dW3XufECcdZjray79umBRKwzpT.tvQevb3Q5W44cylV2d4zOhxVbI_t2aFJlRc7J42y5n0V683G0PL8EkfdbXdWaEBRclagAm8gHPoRtuJb3RadsKLFedCV2eAl1HtdLgnu6laW.MG4MBlKsNRbjkut1G5tlbbeWYP5anS6qgzK722jZGUPXHo7uB3YTmxEqWlyrJ.KJ8wwo_U7YY6Ga3tEQym_nXVh4WCsTz_svNOT3YwVaRqR Received: from [207.105.30.55] by web54110.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 08:10:18 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 From: "Erika M. Jackson" To: uupoly-l@uupa.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] some interesting news from Ferry Beach X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: erikamjackson@gmail.com, uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:11:31 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 08:10:18 -0700 (PDT) X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:11:31 -0000 First Unitarian Church of San Jose (CA). We did a poly service in December. From btoll@hughes.net Thu Jul 16 11:19:48 2009 Received: from smtprelay.b.hostedemail.com (smtprelay0009.b.hostedemail.com [64.98.42.9]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6GFIbhR002295 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 11:19:48 -0400 Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (b-bigip1 [10.5.19.254]) by smtprelay05.b.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 5DEEC146D98E; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:18:28 +0000 (UTC) X-Spam-Summary: 10, 1, 0, 2e08ecd4a24c8d52, d41d8cd98f00b204, btoll@hughes.net, uupoly-l@uupa.org, RULES_HIT:355:379:539:540:541:543:599:988:989:1215:1260:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1359:1437:1515:1516:1518:1533:1534:1536:1593:1594:1711:1714:1730:1747:1766:1792:2393:2559:2562:2828:3027:3866:3869:5007:6114:10004, 0, RBL:none, CacheIP:none, Bayesian:0.5, 0.5, 0.5, Netcheck:none, DomainCache:0, MSF:not bulk, SPF:fn, MSBL:none, DNSBL:none, Custom_rules:0:0:0 X-Session-Marker: 62746F6C6C406875676865732E6E6574 X-Filterd-Recvd-Size: 1157 Received: from TollSchacterPC (unknown [72.169.152.17]) (Authenticated sender: btoll@hughes.net) by omf03.b.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:18:21 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <5A21559B21E94C258932DEEC1688053F@TollSchacterPC> From: "Beverly Toll/Chava Schacter" To: References: <910474.25831.qm@web54401.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] some interesting news from Ferry Beach X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: Beverly Toll/Chava Schacter , uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:19:48 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 10:17:39 -0500 X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:19:48 -0000 UU Fellowship of Fayetteville, Arkansas. There are a few poly folks here, but pretty closeted. BT From jkumusik@comcast.net Thu Jul 16 11:35:53 2009 Received: from QMTA11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.211]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6GFYgv8004169 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 11:35:53 -0400 Received: from OMTA21.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.88]) by QMTA11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Ge8s1c0041u4NiLABfacsh; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:34:36 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.107] ([76.20.99.197]) by OMTA21.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Gfaa1c0074FXWDY8hfaadV; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:34:36 +0000 From: Jay To: valerie@valeriewhite.org, uupoly-l@uupa.org In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: Message-Id: <6113D6D2-A5D3-4530-9E0A-02571286EC23@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] some interesting news from Ferry Beach X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:35:53 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 08:34:34 -0700 X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:35:53 -0000 First UU Church of Stockton (CA). On Jul 16, 2009, at 7:05 AM, Valerie White wrote: > I'm at Ferry Beach for RE week . . . not that I'm a religious > educator but > there are other families from my congregation who go and it has > become a > tradition. I was approached yesterday by a DRE from a Boston-area > congregation, someone I knew from North East Leadership School, > BECAUSE > there's a poly family new in her congregation, with kids in the RE > program. She knows that I am involved with UUPA (she saw me at the > booth > at GA) and asked me to talk with her about how to welcome this > family and > what books she might read to become familiar with polyamory. > > Well, small world department, it turned out I know this triad (from > Family > Tree), and of course I guessed right away who they were. > > I did my best to let this wonderful DRE know how much I appreciated > her > determination to do right by them. I made a few suggestions . . . > warned > her that poly parents were apt to be nervous about being "out" and > why, > pointed out to her that multi-parent families should be mentioned > when RE > classes talk about the diversity of family types UU's embrace. I > told her > that my congregation has "family structure" included in the list of > things > we don't discriminate against. I said that the family will doubtless > appreciate feeling safe in bringing up things in joys and concerns, > like, > "This is the anniversary of the day so-and-so joined our family," or, > "we're glad our secondary so-and-so is here visiting from > Ohio . . ." I > suggested she avoid making assumptions about partner-number. > > I said she should treat the adults in the family like a "couple for > large > values of 2". I referred her to the Loving More website as a > gateway. I > told her about several books. I told her that there have been no > published studies on the effect of being raised in a poly family on > children. I said there were credible professionals who had opined > that > a stable poly family was BETTER for a child than a series of > monogamous > relationships. I said there was plenty of anecdotal evidence that > poly-raised kids do fine. I said that the movement has gotten old > enough > now that some of these kids are grown or nearly so and some of them > are > willing to speak out and write about their experiences, and most of > them > seem to say that it was great having extra parents. Some of them are > poly themselves and some are not, just as you'd expect. > > I told her that poly parents are making "villages" to raise their > children. I told her that, closeted or not, there are poly families > in > MANY UU churches. > > (By the way, just out of curiosity, it would be interesting if > everybody > on this list would post the name of the congregation they attend at > least > occasionally. I would love to be able to tell someone like this > DRE that > I know of at least thus-and-so UU congregations with poly members > or > friends. How about it? It's my guess there would be almost as many > congregations represented as there are members of this list! > > I'll start it off: Unitarian Church of Sharon, MA.) > > I told her that no responsible parent mixes his or her sexuality > with his > or her parenting, and poly's are no more likely to expose children to > inappropriate sexual conduct than anybody else. > > It's exciting that she wanted to hear all this, and that UUPA is > seen as a > resource to professional leadership in the denomination. > > BTW, UUPA trustees . . . nobody got back to me on my proposed > poly-parenting flyer?! > > Valerie > > PS: yesterday at worship I led the choir in singing a two-part > setting I > composed for Edwin Markham's "Outwitted": > > He drew a circle that shut me out > Heretic, rebel, a thing to flout > But love and I had the wit to win > We drew a circle that took him in. > > WHAT a treat! > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about > yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l From mojave66@gmail.com Thu Jul 16 11:38:16 2009 Received: from mail-yx0-f190.google.com (mail-yx0-f190.google.com [209.85.210.190]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6GFcGWS004854 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 11:38:16 -0400 Received: by yxe28 with SMTP id 28so344421yxe.10 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 08:38:15 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.90.71.15 with SMTP id t15mr5362510aga.105.1247758695776; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 08:38:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <6113D6D2-A5D3-4530-9E0A-02571286EC23@comcast.net> References: <6113D6D2-A5D3-4530-9E0A-02571286EC23@comcast.net> Message-ID: <15276f790907160838y1de8ed43l244b282f28a7837b@mail.gmail.com> From: "Lisa K. Clayton" To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] some interesting news from Ferry Beach X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: lisakc@mindspring.com, uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:38:16 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 08:38:15 -0700 X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:38:16 -0000 UU San Mateo. There are a number of poly folk here. From union-consult@charter.net Thu Jul 16 11:42:21 2009 Received: from que11.charter.net (que11.charter.net [209.225.8.21]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6GFf9Q1005501 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 11:42:21 -0400 Received: from imp09 ([10.20.200.9]) by mta21.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.09.01.00 201-2219-108-20080618) with ESMTP id <20090716152856.MPNJ3344.mta21.charter.net@imp09> for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 11:28:56 -0400 Received: from kelly ([68.187.237.221]) by imp09 with smtp.charter.net id GfUv1c00T4nHiR805fUvcC; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 11:28:56 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Union Consult" To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: [UUPoly-L] remember to "snip" and Valerie's piece X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:42:22 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 11:28:53 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:42:22 -0000 When replying to a digest, DON'T include the whole digest, cut it off except for just enough to maintian the subject. I have a copy of Valeri's nice setting of the Markham and hope to use it sometime. From PiscesWaterNymph@aol.com Thu Jul 16 12:02:27 2009 Received: from imo-d20.mx.aol.com (imo-d20.mx.aol.com [205.188.139.136]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6GG2ROc007817 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:02:27 -0400 Received: from imo-ma03.mx.aol.com (imo-ma03.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.138]) by imo-d20.mx.aol.com (v107.10) with ESMTP id RELAYIN2-34a5f4ec623b; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:01:10 -0400 Received: from PiscesWaterNymph@aol.com by imo-ma03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id g.c11.3097157b (37067) for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:01:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (ool-44c71962.dyn.optonline.net [68.199.25.98]) by cia-db05.mx.aol.com (v124.15) with ESMTP id MAILCIADB051-90cb4a5f4ec311a; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:01:07 -0400 Message-Id: From: pisceswaternymph@aol.com To: uupoly-l@uupa.org In-Reply-To: <6113D6D2-A5D3-4530-9E0A-02571286EC23@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <6113D6D2-A5D3-4530-9E0A-02571286EC23@comcast.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) X-AOL-IP: 64.12.78.138 X-Spam-Flag: NO Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] some interesting news from Ferry Beach X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:02:27 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:01:01 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:02:27 -0000 A book I would recommend for RE: One Hundred Is A Family by Pam Ryan It is a kids' book that shows different configurations of people and puts forth that all of these configurations are "Family". It ranges from a pair of people to a community of 100 back to "One Earth." Many of the pictures are age and gender ambiguous and kids can interpret the pictures many different ways; for example, I have had kids tell me that the picture for "Three is a family" depicts "Mom, grandma and kid" "Mom, auntie and kid" "Mom and Mom and kid" "Grandma, Auntie and kid" "Mom and a friend and her kid" and so on. I use this book with my 1st grade students (I'm an english teacher) every year and the permutations are endless. -Christi On Jul 16, 2009, at 11:34 AM, Jay wrote: > First UU Church of Stockton (CA). > > > On Jul 16, 2009, at 7:05 AM, Valerie White wrote: > >> I'm at Ferry Beach for RE week . . . not that I'm a religious >> educator but >> there are other families from my congregation who go and it has >> become a >> tradition. I was approached yesterday by a DRE from a Boston-area >> congregation, someone I knew from North East Leadership School, >> BECAUSE >> there's a poly family new in her congregation, with kids in the RE >> program. She knows that I am involved with UUPA (she saw me at the >> booth >> at GA) and asked me to talk with her about how to welcome this >> family and >> what books she might read to become familiar with polyamory. >> >> Well, small world department, it turned out I know this triad (from >> Family >> Tree), and of course I guessed right away who they were. >> >> I did my best to let this wonderful DRE know how much I appreciated >> her >> determination to do right by them. I made a few suggestions . . . >> warned >> her that poly parents were apt to be nervous about being "out" and >> why, >> pointed out to her that multi-parent families should be mentioned >> when RE >> classes talk about the diversity of family types UU's embrace. I >> told her >> that my congregation has "family structure" included in the list of >> things >> we don't discriminate against. I said that the family will doubtless >> appreciate feeling safe in bringing up things in joys and concerns, >> like, >> "This is the anniversary of the day so-and-so joined our family," or, >> "we're glad our secondary so-and-so is here visiting from >> Ohio . . ." I >> suggested she avoid making assumptions about partner-number. >> >> I said she should treat the adults in the family like a "couple for >> large >> values of 2". I referred her to the Loving More website as a >> gateway. I >> told her about several books. I told her that there have been no >> published studies on the effect of being raised in a poly family on >> children. I said there were credible professionals who had opined >> that >> a stable poly family was BETTER for a child than a series of >> monogamous >> relationships. I said there was plenty of anecdotal evidence that >> poly-raised kids do fine. I said that the movement has gotten old >> enough >> now that some of these kids are grown or nearly so and some of them >> are >> willing to speak out and write about their experiences, and most of >> them >> seem to say that it was great having extra parents. Some of them >> are >> poly themselves and some are not, just as you'd expect. >> >> I told her that poly parents are making "villages" to raise their >> children. I told her that, closeted or not, there are poly families >> in >> MANY UU churches. >> >> (By the way, just out of curiosity, it would be interesting if >> everybody >> on this list would post the name of the congregation they attend at >> least >> occasionally. I would love to be able to tell someone like this >> DRE that >> I know of at least thus-and-so UU congregations with poly members >> or >> friends. How about it? It's my guess there would be almost as many >> congregations represented as there are members of this list! >> >> I'll start it off: Unitarian Church of Sharon, MA.) >> >> I told her that no responsible parent mixes his or her sexuality >> with his >> or her parenting, and poly's are no more likely to expose children to >> inappropriate sexual conduct than anybody else. >> >> It's exciting that she wanted to hear all this, and that UUPA is >> seen as a >> resource to professional leadership in the denomination. >> >> BTW, UUPA trustees . . . nobody got back to me on my proposed >> poly-parenting flyer?! >> >> Valerie >> >> PS: yesterday at worship I led the choir in singing a two-part >> setting I >> composed for Edwin Markham's "Outwitted": >> >> He drew a circle that shut me out >> Heretic, rebel, a thing to flout >> But love and I had the wit to win >> We drew a circle that took him in. >> >> WHAT a treat! >> _______________________________________________ >> The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. >> Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about >> yourself. >> UUPoly-L mailing list >> UUPoly-L@uupa.org >> http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about > yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l From rachelraymacfarlane@gmail.com Thu Jul 16 12:28:34 2009 Received: from mail-qy0-f199.google.com (mail-qy0-f199.google.com [209.85.221.199]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6GGSYct009960 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:28:34 -0400 Received: by qyk37 with SMTP id 37so206093qyk.10 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:28:31 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.100.77 with SMTP id x13mr1702638qcn.105.1247761711118; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:28:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Rachel Macfarlane Message-ID: <9eb6d4940907160928h74761af8mb2178979f39c36db@mail.gmail.com> To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] UUPoly-L Digest, Vol 58, Issue 7 X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:28:34 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 11:28:11 -0500 X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:28:34 -0000 I had been attending 2U in Chicago and occasionally Micah's Porch, until we had some problems with the minister. We're not going anywhere right now. Good to see you're on here, too, Melody! -Rachel From haslamk@gmail.com Thu Jul 16 12:30:39 2009 Received: from mail-yx0-f190.google.com (mail-yx0-f190.google.com [209.85.210.190]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6GGUdAA010501 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:30:39 -0400 Received: by yxe28 with SMTP id 28so402447yxe.10 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:30:38 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.96.9 with SMTP id t9mr12011443anb.106.1247761838387; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:30:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7f7f511e0907160930r4bd2acebtee62fa65ba2562e4@mail.gmail.com> From: Ken Haslam To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] UUPoly-L Digest, Vol 58, Issue 6 X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:30:39 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:30:38 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:30:39 -0000 I out at Unitarian Universalists of the Chester River, Chestertown, MD but not everyone is comfortable with the idea of Polyamory. I was recently shot down when I wanted to present a workshop on Polyamory. Oh well. Ken Haslam On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 11:19 AM, wrote: > Send UUPoly-L mailing list submissions to > From mlle.mimi@gmail.com Thu Jul 16 12:45:30 2009 Received: from mail-fx0-f225.google.com (mail-fx0-f225.google.com [209.85.220.225]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6GGjTVL011955 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:45:29 -0400 Received: by fxm25 with SMTP id 25so245356fxm.26 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:45:28 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.62.68 with SMTP id w4mr8917334bkh.93.1247762727917; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:45:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: From: Mimi To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] some interesting news from Ferry Beach X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:45:30 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 11:45:27 -0500 X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:45:30 -0000 I'm a member at 2U in Chicago, but haven't been lately. I don't have any children. I'm not aware of other poly people there. I have never discussed polyamory with the minister, but she's made some remarks in sermons that seem to indicate she thinks monogamy is inherently more mature and ethical than other lifestyles. From mknd17@hotmail.com Thu Jul 16 12:53:24 2009 Received: from snt0-omc2-s26.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc2-s26.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.101]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6GGqDj7013162 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:53:24 -0400 Received: from SNT102-W2 ([65.55.90.71]) by snt0-omc2-s26.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 16 Jul 2009 09:51:52 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [76.127.51.114] From: Timothy McKee To: Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <6113D6D2-A5D3-4530-9E0A-02571286EC23@comcast.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Jul 2009 16:51:52.0787 (UTC) FILETIME=[B8425A30:01CA0635] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] some interesting news from Ferry Beach X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:53:24 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:51:52 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:53:24 -0000 Let's not forget the polygamous households in Kenya who now call the UU fai= th their own faith. (See current issue of UU World.) > >> > >> He drew a circle that shut me out > >> Heretic=2C rebel=2C a thing to flout > >> But love and I had the wit to win > >> We drew a circle that took him in. > >> > >> WHAT a treat! > >> _______________________________________________ > >> The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > >> Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about > >> yourself. > >> UUPoly-L mailing list > >> UUPoly-L@uupa.org > >> http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > > > > _______________________________________________ > > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about=20 > > yourself. > > UUPoly-L mailing list > > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l >=20 > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l From melodywinnell@gmail.com Thu Jul 16 13:49:05 2009 Received: from mail-gx0-f208.google.com (mail-gx0-f208.google.com [209.85.217.208]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6GHn55x016701 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 13:49:05 -0400 Received: by gxk4 with SMTP id 4so449473gxk.2 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 10:49:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.29.13 with SMTP id c13mr5224agc.99.1247766544821; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 10:49:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bda760.bisx.prod.on.blackberry (c465.bda.bis.na.blackberry.com [67.223.78.47]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 36sm575525agc.60.2009.07.16.10.49.03 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 16 Jul 2009 10:49:04 -0700 (PDT) X-rim-org-msg-ref-id: 1927428071 Message-ID: <1927428071-1247766542-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-782350433-@bxe1299.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> X-Priority: Normal Sensitivity: Normal Importance: Normal To: uupoly-l@uupa.org From: melodywinnell@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by msb.ernest-doss.org id n6GHn55x016701 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] UUPoly-L Digest, Vol 58, Issue 7 X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: melodywinnell@gmail.com, uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:49:05 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:49:15 +0000 X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:49:05 -0000 You should come out here sometime for a Sunday! We'd love to see you all. I believe we are the only poly family in the congregation, but we've had nothing but acceptance here. Hoping to make it to one of your Potlucks soon, school has been busy this semester though. I wanted to go to Pride and then to potluck last month but instead was at home doing schoolwork all day. Plus our new kids are joining us soon and I don't quite think we'd want to bring all 7 along to your apartment! ------Original Message------ From: Rachel Macfarlane Sender: uupoly-l-bounces+melodywinnell=gmail.com@uupa.org To: uupoly-l@uupa.org ReplyTo: uupoly-l@uupa.org Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] UUPoly-L Digest, Vol 58, Issue 7 Sent: Jul 16, 2009 11:28 AM I had been attending 2U in Chicago and occasionally Micah's Porch, until we had some problems with the minister. We're not going anywhere right now. Good to see you're on here, too, Melody! -Rachel _______________________________________________ The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. UUPoly-L mailing list UUPoly-L@uupa.org http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry From alan7388@gmail.com Thu Jul 16 13:53:08 2009 Received: from mail-qy0-f199.google.com (mail-qy0-f199.google.com [209.85.221.199]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6GHr8xs017309 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 13:53:08 -0400 Received: by qyk37 with SMTP id 37so273164qyk.10 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 10:53:08 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.32.134 with SMTP id c6mr11586ibd.34.1247766788024; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 10:53:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9c57a1650907161053i1148f09ar1cb00af597dbb7f4@mail.gmail.com> From: Alan alan7388 To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] UUPoly-L Digest, Vol 58, Issue 6 X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:53:08 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 13:53:08 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:53:08 -0000 > I also think that traditionally the poly crowd has been an intellectual bunch that have > searched for a utopian community and are geared toward rational and ethical ways > of dealing with people. They are smart enough to figure things out. I think as poly > becomes more accepted in broader society that many are going to step into the life > without the skills and understanding that it takes to care for all of those involved. >I think those in the public eye of the poly life need to place more emphasis on the > skills that it takes to ensure that vulnerable people are protected and less on the > desire and right to just love more. > > Jodi Excellent point. Do you have ideas for how we should proceed with this? Alan M. (First Parish in Bedford, MA) From dpagano@igc.org Thu Jul 16 14:59:11 2009 Received: from elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.67]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6GIxAqa021251 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:59:11 -0400 Received: from [209.86.224.62] (helo=wamui-bucket.atl.sa.earthlink.net) by elasmtp-scoter.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1MRWAg-0007CA-Oc for uupoly-l@uupa.org; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:59:10 -0400 Received: from 66.92.3.107 by webmail.c.earthlink.net with HTTP; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:59:10 -0400 Message-ID: <24673880.1247770750346.JavaMail.root@wamui-bucket.atl.sa.earthlink.net> From: Darlene Pagano To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: 39a82346d7ceb269f84080ff3e30f22c691f197c14dadbefe85e40539d344c17350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.62 Subject: [UUPoly-L] congregational ID X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: Darlene Pagano , uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 18:59:11 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:59:10 -0400 (EDT) X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 18:59:11 -0000 In response to Valerie's request: First Unitarian Church of Oakland (CA) and the new emerging congregation: Live Oak UU Fellowship (Alameda, CA) When visiting with my poly family members we attend UU Palo Alto. They are on the move with their son to Seattle, but have not yet decided on which UU congregation they will be with up there. (Any one from Seattle who would like to speak up and maybe extend a suggestion or invitation, would be welcome) Darlene visit the website of ColorLines magazine www.colorlines.com From tbrumfie@juno.com Thu Jul 16 15:35:41 2009 Received: from outbound-mail.vgs.untd.com (outbound-mail.vgs.untd.com [64.136.55.15]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n6GJYV3h023774 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:35:41 -0400 X-UOL-TAGLINE: true Received: from outbound-bu1.vgs.untd.com (webmail03.vgs.untd.com [10.181.12.143]) by smtpout04.vgs.untd.com with SMTP id AABFF9AEFAASDVA2 for (sender ); Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:33:25 -0700 (PDT) X-UNTD-OriginStamp: rpyj/tFhPLWAlryNAigtzDMi7YyDdW/Gq2BR7Ury4SCoxad0tZPoZw== Received: (from tbrumfie@juno.com) by webmail03.vgs.untd.com (jqueuemail) id PML7WYRS; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:33:10 PDT Received: from [68.101.218.179] by webmail03.vgs.untd.com with HTTP: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 19:32:46 GMT X-Originating-IP: [68.101.218.179] Mime-Version: 1.0 From: "tbrumfie@juno.com" To: valerie@valeriewhite.org, uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailer: Webmail Version 4.0 Message-Id: <20090716.123246.9908.1@webmail03.vgs.untd.com> Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 X-ContentStamp: 1:1:172331939 X-UNTD-Peer-Info: 10.181.12.143|webmail03.vgs.untd.com|outbound-bu1.vgs.untd.com|tbrumfie@juno.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by msb.ernest-doss.org id n6GJYV3h023774 Cc: uupoly-l@uupa.org Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] some interesting news from Ferry Beach X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 19:35:41 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 19:32:46 GMT X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 19:35:41 -0000 First UU Church of San Diego ____________________________________________________________ Lift Chair Lift Chair Starting At Only $389! Enjoy Free Shipping On Lift Chair http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=xaVRaaX8eJ-YRh_BXequbgAAJ1CVaJYuyMf2MIn3e7hgX9iaAAUAAAAAAAAAAGxo8D3ihfUH4eAo81nieiHjX-f4AAAAAA== From WABaldwin@aol.com Thu Jul 16 15:53:39 2009 Received: from imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (imr-ma06.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.142]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6GJqSTq025204 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:53:38 -0400 Received: from imo-da01.mx.aol.com (imo-da01.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.199]) by imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n6GJq06j024711; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:52:00 -0400 Received: from WABaldwin@aol.com by imo-da01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id g.be7.552073f0 (37038); Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:51:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-ma03.mx.aol.com (smtprly-ma03.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.142]) by cia-db02.mx.aol.com (v124.15) with ESMTP id MAILCIADB028-5c554a5f84d3305; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:51:55 -0400 Received: from WEBMAIL-MC12 (webmail-mc12.webmail.aol.com [64.12.170.89]) by smtprly-ma03.mx.aol.com (v124.15) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYMA033-5c554a5f84d3305; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:51:47 -0400 References: <24673880.1247770750346.JavaMail.root@wamui-bucket.atl.sa.earthlink.net> To: dpagano@igc.org, uupoly-l@uupa.org X-AOL-IP: 153.18.227.47 In-Reply-To: <24673880.1247770750346.JavaMail.root@wamui-bucket.atl.sa.earthlink.net> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: wabaldwin@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 43792-STANDARD Received: from 153.18.227.47 by WEBMAIL-MC12.sysops.aol.com (64.12.170.89) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:51:47 -0400 Message-Id: <8CBD465FCF80A13-A50-C91@WEBMAIL-MC12.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag: NO Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] congregational ID X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 19:53:39 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:51:47 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 19:53:39 -0000 Darlene, I'm in the San Jose congregation. Several of us have talked about forming a Bay Area chapter of UUPA. Would you be interested? Bill B. -----Original Message----- From: Darlene Pagano To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Sent: Thu, Jul 16, 2009 11:59 am Subject: [UUPoly-L] congregational ID In response to Valerie's request: First Unitarian Church of Oakland (CA) and the new emerging congregation: Live Oak UU Fellowship (Alameda, CA) When visiting with my poly family members we attend UU Palo Alto. They are on the move with their son to Seattle, but have not yet decided on which UU congregation they will be with up there. (Any one from Seattle who would like to speak up and maybe extend a suggestion or invitation, would be welcome) Darlene visit the website of ColorLines magazine www.colorlines.com _______________________________________________ The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. UUPoly-L mailing list UUPoly-L@uupa.org http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l From ejjabla@comcast.net Thu Jul 16 16:45:53 2009 Received: from QMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.48]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6GKihZD028934 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:45:53 -0400 Received: from OMTA04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.35]) by QMTA05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id GkDZ1c0040lTkoCA5kkZbX; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 20:44:33 +0000 Received: from edddb5c91ad5a7 ([24.2.36.91]) by OMTA04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id GkkY1c00D1xz6Eo8QkkYZa; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 20:44:33 +0000 Message-ID: From: "Ed Blanchette" To: References: <20090716.123246.9908.1@webmail03.vgs.untd.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] some interesting news from Ferry Beach X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 20:45:55 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 13:44:33 -0700 X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 20:45:55 -0000 UU Society of Sacramento, California. Ed Blanchette Citrus Hts. (Sacramento County) California USA ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Cc: Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2009 12:32 PM Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] some interesting news from Ferry Beach > First UU Church of San Diego > > ____________________________________________________________ > Lift Chair > Lift Chair Starting At Only $389! Enjoy Free Shipping On Lift Chair > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=xaVRaaX8eJ-YRh_BXequbgAAJ1CVaJYuyMf2MIn3e7hgX9iaAAUAAAAAAAAAAGxo8D3ihfUH4eAo81nieiHjX-f4AAAAAA== > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > From rachelraymacfarlane@gmail.com Thu Jul 16 17:04:01 2009 Received: from qw-out-1920.google.com (qw-out-1920.google.com [74.125.92.149]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6GL41dY030807 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:04:01 -0400 Received: by qw-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 5so155577qwc.8 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:03:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.91.12 with SMTP id k12mr43390qcm.66.1247778180390; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:03:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Rachel Macfarlane Message-ID: <9eb6d4940907161402q42704dbdpe10b091b53176be1@mail.gmail.com> To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] UUPoly-L Digest, Vol 58, Issue 8 X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:04:01 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:02:40 -0500 X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:04:01 -0000 Hey Mimi, I would love to go with you sometime. The minister pulled me and my partner aside to give us a stern talking to about the damage we were doing to our families. She gave me a number for a counselor and told me that there is no difference between polyamory and polygamy. She also said we couldn't bring my (then) girlfriend's children without their mom coming in for the same sit down. I actually tried to arrange for that conversation, but the minister would never get back with me. So, I haven't been since. I called around and talked to the other UU congregations, both of which seemed to have no problem with poly. I would like to start going again to Micah's Porch which is a casual UU congregation run by the 2U minister's partner. Any interest in going together? -Rachel ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 11:45:27 -0500 From: Mimi Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] some interesting news from Ferry Beach I'm a member at 2U in Chicago, but haven't been lately. I don't have any children. I'm not aware of other poly people there. I have never discussed polyamory with the minister, but she's made some remarks in sermons that seem to indicate she thinks monogamy is inherently more mature and ethical than other lifestyles. Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 11:28:11 -0500 From: Rachel Macfarlane ; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:17:11 -0400 Received: (qmail 54515 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Jul 2009 21:15:59 -0000 Message-ID: <853027.54440.qm@web111207.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: mmPNzIsVM1mbNPav6eM_wPUvSNEZNxDKmJWjbmph69iNfQj0Cvsbf4iPfC1yrLpzLi6xL_.ZQmLj.QWsYk2nPPGkNOsrwoSEsLeaVxyUHqK9Oo8gHujD_aETQIRRFaFZEG6cpaYwPJGMXcdvtZh91GPZFVMLueyjrJmsRBi1HylHf6xpZshLtplF.8sdFgP6dWSqUTitH0b0yb4wLrYxld7pNDMa8eAEXPXgQkxuMBjr1lV8QyPwbQfjgGe9nCDu_BHfNMPREMdN5BemaB4n_9qWfg9LfmFO_VBW_WhYgHh21z21GAkUmW3IIRY1NNhCz5q0 Received: from [76.27.92.181] by web111207.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:15:59 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1358.22 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 References: From: jodi piatt To: uupoly-l@uupa.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] UUPoly-L Digest, Vol 58, Issue 8 X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:17:11 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:15:59 -0700 (PDT) X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:17:11 -0000 =0A=0A> I also think that traditionally the poly crowd has been an intellec= tual=0Abunch that have=0A> searched for a utopian community and are geared = toward rational and=0Aethical ways=0A> of dealing with people.=A0 They are = smart enough to figure things out.=A0 I=0Athink as poly=0A> becomes more ac= cepted in broader society that many are going to step into=0Athe life=0A> w= ithout the skills and understanding that it takes to care for all of=0Athos= e involved.=0A>I think those in the public eye of the poly life need to pla= ce more=0Aemphasis on the=0A> skills that it takes to ensure that vulnerabl= e people are protected and=0Aless on the=0A> desire and right to just love = more.=0A>=0A> Jodi=0A=0AExcellent point. Do you have ideas for how we shoul= d proceed with this?=0A=0AAlan M.=0A(First Parish in Bedford, MA)=0A=0A=0AI= think whenever the discussion comes up emphasize the communication and ski= lls that are needed to ensure it works and strives to protect children, the= elderly or other vulnerable populations.=A0 Emphasize the "tribal" concept= not just the loving more part of it.=0AJodi=0A=0A=0A From mlle.mimi@gmail.com Thu Jul 16 17:20:17 2009 Received: from mail-fx0-f225.google.com (mail-fx0-f225.google.com [209.85.220.225]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6GLKH5a032563 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:20:17 -0400 Received: by fxm25 with SMTP id 25so388413fxm.26 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:20:15 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.102.14 with SMTP id e14mr171460bko.183.1247779214993; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 14:20:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9eb6d4940907161402q42704dbdpe10b091b53176be1@mail.gmail.com> References: <9eb6d4940907161402q42704dbdpe10b091b53176be1@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: From: Mimi To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] UUPoly-L Digest, Vol 58, Issue 8 X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:20:18 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:20:14 -0500 X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:20:18 -0000 I've replied off-list, Rachel. On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Rachel Macfarlane < rachelraymacfarlane@gmail.com> wrote: > Hey Mimi, I would love to go with you sometime. The minister pulled me and > my partner aside to give us a stern talking to about the damage we were > doing to our families. She gave me a number for a counselor and told me > that there is no difference between polyamory and polygamy. She also said > we couldn't bring my (then) girlfriend's children without their mom coming > in for the same sit down. I actually tried to arrange for that > conversation, but the minister would never get back with me. So, I haven't > been since. I called around and talked to the other UU congregations, both > of which seemed to have no problem with poly. I would like to start going > again to Micah's Porch which is a casual UU congregation run by the 2U > minister's partner. > > Any interest in going together? > > -Rachel > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, Jul 16 2009 11:45:27 -0500 > From: Mimi > Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] some interesting news from Ferry Beach > > I'm a member at 2U in Chicago, but haven't been lately. I don't have any > children. I'm not aware of other poly people there. > > I have never discussed polyamory with the minister, but she's made some > remarks in sermons that seem to indicate she thinks monogamy is inherently > more mature and ethical than other lifestyles. > > Date: Thu, Jul 16 2009 11:28:11 -0500 > From: Rachel Macfarlane I had been attending 2U in Chicago and occasionally Micah's Porch, until we > had some problems with the minister. We're not going anywhere right now. > > Good to see you're on here, too, Melody! > > -Rachel > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > From union-consult@charter.net Thu Jul 16 17:35:31 2009 Received: from que21.charter.net (que21.charter.net [209.225.8.22]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6GLYKZK001329 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:35:31 -0400 Received: from imp10 ([10.20.200.10]) by mta31.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.09.01.00 201-2219-108-20080618) with ESMTP id <20090716211939.THTF2647.mta31.charter.net@imp10> for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:19:39 -0400 Received: from kelly ([68.187.237.221]) by imp10 with smtp.charter.net id GlKf1c00J4nHiR805lKfP1; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:19:39 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Union Consult" To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: [UUPoly-L] Kenya Unitariaqns as a model I think not X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:35:31 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:19:31 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:35:31 -0000 Timothy McKee wrote: "Let's not forget the polygamous households in Kenya who now call the UU faith their own faith. (See current issue of UU World.)" They also believe in a literal interpretation of the bible and are very much anti gay and lesbian. And while they favor men taking more than one wife, I did not read that the converse holds. I think traditional polygomous households are not really something UU polys would want to model. Remember the Mormons! From rachelraymacfarlane@gmail.com Thu Jul 16 18:52:01 2009 Received: from qw-out-1920.google.com (qw-out-1920.google.com [74.125.92.147]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6GMpxok006561 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 18:51:59 -0400 Received: by qw-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 5so173663qwc.8 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:50:59 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.74.77 with SMTP id t13mr68956qcj.7.1247784659106; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 15:50:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <9eb6d4940907161402q42704dbdpe10b091b53176be1@mail.gmail.com> References: <9eb6d4940907161402q42704dbdpe10b091b53176be1@mail.gmail.com> From: Rachel Macfarlane Message-ID: <9eb6d4940907161550u7ef5536bt1e5e8af0994474a6@mail.gmail.com> To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] UUPoly-L Digest, Vol 58, Issue 8 X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 22:52:01 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:50:39 -0500 X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 22:52:01 -0000 I actually joined this group when the whole problem started, looking for support. From what I was told, there have been a lot of poly families at 2U, including a few very active/big contributing people, but they were all before this minister. I would like to find a significant chunk of people who are poly and have been involved with 2U to face this problem head on. I'm fine with having a minister who doesn't agree with all my views. I wouldn't expect anything else from a UU church, but she did make us feel marginalized and dropped us instead of following through to resolve the conflict. I think that was irresponsible and a failure of her pastoral duties. Is anyone else on this list from Chicago? I would like to start going again, but it would be good to have some support. Surely the board and the congregation have some institutional memory of people who were poly there before Jennifer came. When it was going on, I spoke with my old minister from Utah who went to school with Jennifer, and he said he did remember that she had problems with poly. -Rachel On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Rachel Macfarlane < rachelraymacfarlane@gmail.com> wrote: > Hey Mimi, I would love to go with you sometime. The minister pulled me and > my partner aside to give us a stern talking to about the damage we were > doing to our families. She gave me a number for a counselor and told me > that there is no difference between polyamory and polygamy. She also said > we couldn't bring my (then) girlfriend's children without their mom coming > in for the same sit down. I actually tried to arrange for that > conversation, but the minister would never get back with me. So, I haven't > been since. I called around and talked to the other UU congregations, both > of which seemed to have no problem with poly. I would like to start going > again to Micah's Porch which is a casual UU congregation run by the 2U > minister's partner. > > Any interest in going together? > > -Rachel > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 11:45:27 -0500 > From: Mimi > Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] some interesting news from Ferry Beach > > I'm a member at 2U in Chicago, but haven't been lately. I don't have any > children. I'm not aware of other poly people there. > > I have never discussed polyamory with the minister, but she's made some > remarks in sermons that seem to indicate she thinks monogamy is inherently > more mature and ethical than other lifestyles. > > Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 11:28:11 -0500 > From: Rachel Macfarlane > I had been attending 2U in Chicago and occasionally Micah's Porch, until we > had some problems with the minister. We're not going anywhere right now. > > Good to see you're on here, too, Melody! > > -Rachel > > From autumnfire1957@yahoo.com Thu Jul 16 19:22:58 2009 Received: from web33207.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33207.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.69.155]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n6GNLlaC008617 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 19:22:57 -0400 Received: (qmail 17628 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Jul 2009 23:21:47 -0000 Message-ID: <17034.17103.qm@web33207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 1pyh68UVM1kG79a3FJDH7yL_0XrujTteqhNS46Dn0TUW2V6BYe21Z7t7e1haSvTQw4bnClhVHV5VWNkdKsT7GSNySMq1IvMwiZ9ybBIq7IWX97NSHp3795mpBL60LQb33SzAg.xbmxJMv9GjpGlTko0BbMOrbmsQECZJirIC6veOIX85Yg6Hc3XAUyeBj2BPPN7vHZFaPwrBzvlVIX0CjTdJX_kqkx7hvhuVArtwmXJYB7RPCfcXceeP47Z8tg_HNJR1P7LJ2OcEz3ab1j8_DFvMJYMEs6FQUqYqeMUlhP3OTr8TSadj0ITGF5_b9ww50h8- Received: from [173.76.8.208] by web33207.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:21:46 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.0.18 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 From: joe ruivo To: UUPoly-L@uupa.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: [UUPoly-L] Congragation ID X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 23:22:58 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:21:46 -0700 (PDT) X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 23:22:58 -0000 Hi folk I'm Joe and I'm at UU Church of Worcester. We're the one on Holden = St. not the one downtown. Garibaldi:=A0 "No Boom?" Sinclair:=A0=A0=A0=A0"No Boom." Ivanova:=A0=A0= =A0 "No Boom Today; Boom Tomorrow. There's Always A Boom Tomorrow."=0A=0A= =0A From autumnfire1957@yahoo.com Thu Jul 16 19:44:56 2009 Received: from web33204.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33204.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.69.152]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n6GNhjmw010127 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 19:44:56 -0400 Received: (qmail 18208 invoked by uid 60001); 16 Jul 2009 23:43:45 -0000 Message-ID: <454603.18200.qm@web33204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: p4xWPR4VM1lm7s9L7wlmwdH7ZeAMIasxXqSjOJeUb96u0jNi5NLp9qtbCxVftBVicFf5oilFQ6aQ.bnkJXng9pl_HsEJsTbVeyBj1NbR3M.obXH9mPMQqvvL6KcfV_hz_ejMQOnJoOePlPaaKGG90j31tTGxqsLaoOW49.y3mSa43HQ9dLqIaFjQKFoNVc_6bMOMfoOo4AEWvLQenCitojV4jYG24JMii_cWqdu5zkTGN.VGKLcM6gHwIYs4xddkc5Qq65t7X9.gScD3OYPr4X8N55hy5TI6ZiFfa8BdJUs8fh0zfmIN5PDsEZMVd0I8c6bw Received: from [173.76.8.208] by web33204.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:43:45 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.0.18 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 From: joe ruivo To: UUPoly-L@uupa.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: [UUPoly-L] Congregational ID X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 23:44:56 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 16:43:45 -0700 (PDT) X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 23:44:56 -0000 Hi it's Joe again. Pardon my arrogance but living in Massachusetts where we= average one UU church per town I'm not used to having to state what state = my congregation is in so again it's the UU Church of Worcester on Holden St= .=20 Thanks for allow me a Mea Culpa Garibaldi:=A0 "No Boom?" Sinclair:=A0=A0=A0=A0"No Boom." Ivanova:=A0=A0= =A0 "No Boom Today; Boom Tomorrow. There's Always A Boom Tomorrow."=0A=0A= =0A From SRS0=zGXt3g=DJ=imladris.com=lists@eigbox.net Thu Jul 16 19:48:44 2009 Received: from bosmailout04.eigbox.net (bosmailout04.eigbox.net [66.96.187.4]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6GNlYEM010745 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 19:48:44 -0400 Received: from bosmailscan24.eigbox.net ([10.20.15.24]) by bosmailout04.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1MRaci-0000aj-Lq for uupoly-l@uupa.org; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 19:44:24 -0400 Received: from bosimpout01.eigbox.net ([10.20.55.1]) by bosmailscan24.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1MRaci-00025f-HE for uupoly-l@uupa.org; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 19:44:24 -0400 Received: from bosauthsmtp09.eigbox.net ([10.20.18.9]) by bosimpout01.eigbox.net with NO UCE id GngP1c0090BkY8i0000000; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 19:40:23 -0400 X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.20.18.9 X-EN-IMPSID: GngP1c0090BkY8i0000000 Received: from c-67-173-235-252.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([67.173.235.252] helo=[10.0.1.2]) by bosauthsmtp09.eigbox.net with esmtpa (Exim) id 1MRaci-0005UC-5v for uupoly-l@uupa.org; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 19:44:24 -0400 Message-Id: From: Amanda Birmingham To: uupoly-l@uupa.org In-Reply-To: <17034.17103.qm@web33207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) References: <17034.17103.qm@web33207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) X-EN-UserInfo: b148370c8a975850e78e70ea6fdff898:89bf212915d0c3ced6026b5acf5433ff X-EN-AuthUser: lists@imladris.com Sender: Amanda Birmingham X-EN-OrigIP: 67.173.235.252 X-EN-OrigHost: c-67-173-235-252.hsd1.co.comcast.net Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Congragation ID X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 23:48:44 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:44:16 -0600 X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 23:48:44 -0000 Boulder Valley Unitarian Universalist Fellowship in Lafayette, CO. From desmondravenstone@yahoo.com Thu Jul 16 20:34:54 2009 Received: from web50510.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web50510.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.38.247]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n6H0YsfY013777 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 20:34:54 -0400 Received: (qmail 78548 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Jul 2009 00:34:54 -0000 Message-ID: <415465.77710.qm@web50510.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 6OsGNckVM1nFrwdT5e19wYRsli2IEbRohCNBccYNpPYll92BvDOdiAvwADCSSF.Ik0e5mlXz6HfoAzng8zqFeJRSCwDUpKJpDZrSa_N20BY3yv0SidIbTPRmfAhgN6kJ0K3rrFO0Wy0HIaYFWe8k.F2ZACNLIhNw6RW1MtQ_y.BFaj41_FJCRpBlQxlNh0Tn5Vlxe7WyyefnIudhK.vuGQjLS0akOB.FgVDSFJa2xCA_QQFEdFlYh01MWNFdGXebJS9IcbT.B6AOi4HexhgVyS0XrHevhuYxIkJxYv.bVW3oJ9L_Fs8cZD5wPHBoVmmqz5PsPxwal.HS9pVDHmQpk914wPe.QQ8- Received: from [68.245.126.86] by web50510.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:34:54 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 From: Desmond Ravenstone To: uupoly-l@uupa.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Congregation ID X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 00:34:54 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:34:54 -0700 (PDT) X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 00:34:54 -0000 Arlington Street Church in Boston MA, where poly folk have been members for quite some time. Not to mention my being openly kinky as well. Plus ASC hosts a monthly discussion group on spirituality and sexuality, Sacred Eros, where poly and kink are frequently discussed. Desmond Ravenstone "Do not do unto others as you expect they should do unto you. Their tastes may not be the same." -- George Bernard Shaw http://ravenstonesreflections.blogspot.com http://www.myspace.com/desmond_ravenstone From desmondravenstone@yahoo.com Thu Jul 16 20:36:58 2009 Received: from web50501.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web50501.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.38.77]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n6H0aweB014374 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 20:36:58 -0400 Received: (qmail 84798 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Jul 2009 00:36:57 -0000 Message-ID: <662647.84711.qm@web50501.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: Ij46X6MVM1mpONy7u5f8qtsbrCU1ykaYgFgAuUWNlA5BjOH6aYb2bv6HZnXQei3ymCagtX_x0rO98u9pCg0sbcfLxVaL2_x9LVq_k23OqL5yJ9J0Hsr3tmdxrPXkKlm6ZczR1xqRTDB5hZshqbGKWmq8s3P42bBE6c2erC9e26V_BP7Y_plObGG1RwBuMvg5GgD7u5jrHIJwJvuaHCuqz6ZJ8vb7nE5UrHi2VFUjnzTD39Ydsl9jmcdWQIZGGO51Gryz6akanq7ooBxm1NHNbQg6HGWvn3f6Y.tjyEZUQCZ8K.L2kWmhBiaE24uD80OKvRWB_6aBmhVZaGx.n1JrEDv6m19baM8- Received: from [68.245.126.86] by web50501.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:36:57 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 From: Desmond Ravenstone To: lisakc@mindspring.com, uupoly-l@uupa.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by msb.ernest-doss.org id n6H0aweB014374 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] some interesting news from Ferry Beach X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 00:37:00 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:36:57 -0700 (PDT) X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 00:37:00 -0000 --- On Thu, 7/16/09, Lisa K. Clayton wrote: > UU San Mateo.   There > are a number of poly folk here. Say hello to Dan Kane for me! Desmond Ravenstone "Do not do unto others as you expect they should do unto you. Their tastes may not be the same." -- George Bernard Shaw http://ravenstonesreflections.blogspot.com http://www.myspace.com/desmond_ravenstone From fantine@sonic.net Thu Jul 16 20:42:46 2009 Received: from a.mail.sonic.net (a.mail.sonic.net [64.142.16.245]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6H0fa0C015064 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 20:42:46 -0400 Received: from FLOGGER3000 (75-101-18-7.dsl.static.sonic.net [75.101.18.7]) by a.mail.sonic.net (8.13.8.Beta0-Sonic/8.13.7) with ESMTP id n6H0fZWb019526 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:41:35 -0700 From: "Fantine" To: Message-ID: <127443E0FB4F4F88AA2F9C3236C33A9E@FLOGGER3000> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6838 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal Thread-Index: AcoGb/qpcxc2fZYZSPmqXel6Tg9IlAAB0deA Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Congregation ID X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 00:42:47 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:41:35 -0700 X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 00:42:47 -0000 Yet another UU San Mateo CA From WABaldwin@aol.com Thu Jul 16 21:03:46 2009 Received: from imr-da06.mx.aol.com (imr-da06.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.203]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6H12ZRI016618 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:03:46 -0400 Received: from imo-da02.mx.aol.com (imo-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.200]) by imr-da06.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n6H12Udl026491 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:02:30 -0400 Received: from WABaldwin@aol.com by imo-da02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id g.c7b.584d32bc (37116) for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:02:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-mb01.mx.aol.com (smtprly-mb01.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.148]) by cia-ma01.mx.aol.com (v124.15) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMA012-5c5f4a5fcda13d7; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:02:25 -0400 Received: from mblk-d12 (mblk-d12.mblk.aol.com [205.188.149.4]) by smtprly-mb01.mx.aol.com (v124.15) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYMB015-5c5f4a5fcda13d7; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:02:25 -0400 References: <662647.84711.qm@web50501.mail.re2.yahoo.com> To: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-AOL-IP: 153.18.227.47 In-Reply-To: <662647.84711.qm@web50501.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: wabaldwin@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 43792-STANDARD Received: from 153.18.227.47 by mblk-d12.sysops.aol.com (205.188.149.4) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:02:25 -0400 Message-Id: <8CBD49161D93731-1580-10CF@mblk-d12.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag: NO Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] some interesting news from Ferry Beach X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 01:03:46 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:02:25 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 01:03:46 -0000 So -- more people for a Bay Area UUPA chapter! ps -- oh boy -- someone loves the same G.B. Shaw quote I do!!!!! ;^) Bill B. (Sunnyvale/San Jose) -----Original Message----- From: Desmond Ravenstone To: lisakc@mindspring.com; uupoly-l@uupa.org Sent: Thu, Jul 16, 2009 5:36 pm Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] some interesting news from Ferry Beach --- On Thu, 7/16/09, Lisa K. Clayton wrote: > UU San Mateo.???There > are a number of poly folk here. Say hello to Dan Kane for me! Desmond Ravenstone "Do not do unto others as you expect they should do unto you. Their tastes may not be the same." -- George Bernard Shaw http://ravenstonesreflections.blogspot.com http://www.myspace.com/desmond_ravenstone _______________________________________________ The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. UUPoly-L mailing list UUPoly-L@uupa.org http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l From desmondravenstone@yahoo.com Thu Jul 16 21:23:47 2009 Received: from web50503.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web50503.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.38.79]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n6H1Nldg018673 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:23:47 -0400 Received: (qmail 36795 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Jul 2009 01:23:47 -0000 Message-ID: <598280.17263.qm@web50503.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: NJ4amVMVM1kLA9DPweOBvkLRZMgrVCRVsgRPqdVUYr358okx4Fk.dhmoG.ABKQyXE8ppByImKhYZKzpYKFlY4hddQ5NDtyG4tnOU6qele2yKO7ix3ey.kyFXEZhulglQjpioF.JhYVsY8ZxE_lR0KGfGBjAVBEvGUydB0UCnh6_mFsCGdv4kiDiYzRhCEGIDrE23rTEJ2jnirvFDXYTLf6a3ZFsX.JWrEDlnLMebK4rsMlehhu.b6rZ9_BkRicyOOMGY6r5T8C3fQCXOEjvind502bLRLFT4AtSUWITeJRIEpK7WYSxyYzApRAOtqcCP Received: from [68.245.126.86] by web50503.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 18:23:47 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 From: Desmond Ravenstone To: uupoly-l@uupa.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [UUPoly-L] Shavian wisdom X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 01:23:47 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 18:23:47 -0700 (PDT) X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 01:23:47 -0000 --- On Thu, 7/16/09, wabaldwin@aol.com wrote: > ps -- oh boy -- someone loves the same G.B. Shaw quote I > do!!!!! Don't forget these: Liberty means responsibility. That is why most people dread it. All great truths begin as blasphemies. You see things as they are and ask, "Why?" I dream things as they never were and ask, "Why not?" The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. There is only one religion, though there are a hundred versions of it. What price salvation? Humbly submitted, D.R. From 2tammy@rogers.com Thu Jul 16 21:42:45 2009 Received: from smtp100.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com (smtp100.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.36.78]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n6H1fZRA020054 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:42:45 -0400 Received: (qmail 42602 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2009 01:41:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO DESKTOP) (2tammy@99.232.157.104 with login) by smtp100.rog.mail.re2.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Jul 2009 01:41:35 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: WG6J9XMVM1lPD37nWa5Od6ns3DJmN3WkLGXFtHzXbzMPm5ESxibe2sZmvfgFWeYi8A-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: "Tammy" <2tammy@rogers.com> To: References: <17034.17103.qm@web33207.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0D832508CA0C449D9D038678567FAB32@DESKTOP> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcoGb/l3cS+RNUo1SP2h6NcYpTRaCQAD7BAg Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Congragation ID X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 01:42:45 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:41:34 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 01:42:45 -0000 NUUC in Toronto, Canada From kal_el10@yahoo.com Thu Jul 16 22:18:44 2009 Received: from smtp105-mob.biz.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (smtp105-mob.biz.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.13.226]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n6H2HYeK022692 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 22:18:44 -0400 Received: (qmail 90616 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2009 02:17:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO bda906.bisx.prod.on.blackberry) (kal_el10@67.223.67.160 with xymcookie) by smtp105-mob.biz.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Jul 2009 02:17:33 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: wAhP.KQVM1mCHivV33dOUxlnkxlFxtQfrkV4BQUOOsda6FQ.Yi76nXyAWoM2yiIx.tpraPdf.UnXVKlcUKXLSljmJgeWJk2pmjpv3UhHCb_KU7jd_.vyEqdOhruP14xkDueG9T7.yToefFBsgCHv9GEi69OJe6_HNOA68kI9XL5fIttwGF.eE9.j5hpOnsQmSPRV_skt8DExiTFcqCUwJuvicvJbTwH60cJ.laCVVsW8bsusgiU0sTWKEa7wU7AM8RQWI.8fRdTpqJBKoZT2iQxtZie9jThC6gESLaexbABs2T11QYygoUNtyG8huj3vmUj22.rohQxa24IX.w-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-rim-org-msg-ref-id: 1977319825 Message-ID: <1977319825-1247797052-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1240115880-@bxe1203.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> X-Priority: Normal Sensitivity: Normal Importance: Normal To: uupoly-l@uupa.org From: kal_el10@yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from base64 to 8bit by msb.ernest-doss.org id n6H2HYeK022692 Subject: [UUPoly-L] Fw: Final Interviews for poly story (to be aired in August) X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: kal_el10@yahoo.com, uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 02:18:44 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 02:17:34 +0000 X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 02:18:44 -0000 Anyone interested in interviewing for a story on poly that will air on kbcs 91.3 in seattle? Read below. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -----Original Message----- From: kal_el10@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2009 04:08:43 To: ; Cc: Subject: Final Interviews for poly story (to be aired in August) I know , I know! I've been working and promising this for quite a while now. I apologize for taking so long with it. Factors including issues at the station(KBCS 91.3) causing some project delays and health issues of my own and a loved one did not help. But now , to quote the title of what was suppose to be Michael Jackson's final tour : THIS IS IT ! I am looking to interview anyone about their poly experiences, especially couples who are poly and what their lives are like. I will also leave the interview open to discuss any matters regarding poly that is felt to be of importance. Please let me know if you are interested. Again, my profuse apologies for the delay. Alberto (aka ANTONIO) 206 953 4994 Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile From jens207@gmail.com Thu Jul 16 22:50:06 2009 Received: from mail-ew0-f222.google.com (mail-ew0-f222.google.com [209.85.219.222]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6H2o6ox024940 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 22:50:06 -0400 Received: by ewy22 with SMTP id 22so581946ewy.26 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 19:50:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.26.205 with SMTP id c55mr169977wea.1.1247799004505; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 19:50:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8CBD49161D93731-1580-10CF@mblk-d12.sysops.aol.com> References: <662647.84711.qm@web50501.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <8CBD49161D93731-1580-10CF@mblk-d12.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <350b0c2a0907161950r487d83d2uc1147545c67bd875@mail.gmail.com> From: Jens Wennberg To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] some interesting news from Ferry Beach X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 02:50:06 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 22:50:04 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 02:50:06 -0000 First Unitarian Universalist Church in Ithaca NY Jens Wennberg and Nancy Miller From dorothyk@charter.net Thu Jul 16 23:01:32 2009 Received: from que31.charter.net (que31.charter.net [209.225.8.23]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6H30Mva025963 for ; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 23:01:32 -0400 Received: from imp10 ([10.20.200.10]) by mta31.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.09.01.00 201-2219-108-20080618) with ESMTP id <20090717025411.JNJ2647.mta31.charter.net@imp10>; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 22:54:11 -0400 Received: from evo ([97.87.15.160]) by imp10 with smtp.charter.net id GquA1c00G3TCDKV05quAl0; Thu, 16 Jul 2009 22:54:11 -0400 From: "Dorothy Krause" To: Message-ID: <003801ca0689$92c8a670$6401a8c0@evo> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6838 Importance: Normal Thread-Index: AcoGiZJkJVhZv4qRRrqfsTKUaPC/Dg== X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] some interesting news from Ferry Beach X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 03:01:32 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:52:07 -0500 X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 03:01:32 -0000 Prairie UU in Madison, Wisconsin http://uuprairie.org Dorothy From icescience@yahoo.com Fri Jul 17 15:33:17 2009 Received: from web55604.mail.re4.yahoo.com (web55604.mail.re4.yahoo.com [206.190.58.228]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n6HJW7oL025292 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 15:33:17 -0400 Received: (qmail 39591 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Jul 2009 19:32:07 -0000 Message-ID: <352199.39020.qm@web55604.mail.re4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: jtT_mEYVM1kaz8guFE.A7Kg3f5Bvn2BhwOytEwgV.uDyUX8bxQSdB21DAu9y5F5H1NVo4oo3Mcd9Lv7uWaTqkVrjUk1COzLho8JZJnhXFt.THylQiREyikH7SofcexZ6e5HgLMrHqlWo50R5BxODN4gQ3m349VwVvWMzPA72tfjiYlKP9mfryJiwMI.koph7_eOCUiBWWvh1xhVXRMhEGIs62MnWfbxHEiHJaLDJyq4yv6r.NIxdOp7aLV3f3CaY23NKDDXrnouPJX96we3Ij5WUBiowsuikGjieUDI- Received: from [72.165.85.218] by web55604.mail.re4.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 12:32:07 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 From: Kathleen Reedy To: uupoly-l@uupa.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: [UUPoly-L] Congregations with UUPA members X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:33:17 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 12:32:07 -0700 (PDT) X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:33:17 -0000 Cedar Lane UU Church in Bethesda, MD =A0 I've been a member of CL much longer that I've been poly or a member of UUP= A.=A0 There are a few other members of this congregation who are poly, none= of us have children here. =A0Actually, more correctly, our offspring are a= dults.=20 Kathleen=0A=0A=0A From mknd17@hotmail.com Fri Jul 17 16:02:52 2009 Received: from snt0-omc2-s33.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc2-s33.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.108]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6HK1gJk027340 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:02:52 -0400 Received: from SNT102-W2 ([65.55.90.73]) by snt0-omc2-s33.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:01:33 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [76.127.51.114] From: Timothy McKee To: Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <352199.39020.qm@web55604.mail.re4.yahoo.com> References: <352199.39020.qm@web55604.mail.re4.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jul 2009 20:01:33.0156 (UTC) FILETIME=[61E69A40:01CA0719] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Congregations with UUPA members X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:02:52 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:01:32 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:02:52 -0000 I grew up with Henry Sgrecci the new music director at Cedar Lane. Actually= we played trumpets together. I sent him an e-mail earlier in the week. =20 > Date: Fri=2C 17 Jul 2009 12:32:07 -0700 > From: icescience@yahoo.com > To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > Subject: [UUPoly-L] Congregations with UUPA members >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Cedar Lane UU Church in Bethesda=2C MD > =20 > I've been a member of CL much longer that I've been poly or a member of U= UPA. There are a few other members of this congregation who are poly=2C no= ne of us have children here. Actually=2C more correctly=2C our offspring a= re adults.=20 > Kathleen >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l From licorice.gumdrop@gmail.com Fri Jul 17 16:45:50 2009 Received: from mail-qy0-f199.google.com (mail-qy0-f199.google.com [209.85.221.199]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6HKjo5g030416 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:45:50 -0400 Received: by qyk37 with SMTP id 37so890170qyk.10 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:45:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.20.9 with SMTP id d9mr1072570qab.228.1247863547205; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:45:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?10.88.154.57? (mobile-166-137-134-017.mycingular.net [166.137.134.17]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 6sm2286633qwk.34.2009.07.17.13.45.45 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:45:46 -0700 (PDT) References: <352199.39020.qm@web55604.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Message-Id: <336A9F01-51D1-45B8-BEFA-62DE5DD08927@gmail.com> From: licorice gumdrop To: "uupoly-l@uupa.org" In-Reply-To: <352199.39020.qm@web55604.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (7A341) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 7A341) Cc: "uupoly-l@uupa.org" Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Congregations with UUPA members X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:45:50 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:45:37 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:45:50 -0000 *grin* and some of us are the offspring of the offspring of non-poly cedar lane members, with no congregation we call home. although I've been meaning to check out the Arlington church. - jenny ### sent from a mobile device - please forgive any thumb-related spelling errors. On Jul 17, 2009, at 3:32 PM, Kathleen Reedy wrote: > > > > Cedar Lane UU Church in Bethesda, MD > > I've been a member of CL much longer that I've been poly or a member > of UUPA. There are a few other members of this congregation who are > poly, none of us have children here. Actually, more correctly, our > offspring are adults. > Kathleen From WABaldwin@aol.com Fri Jul 17 16:47:58 2009 Received: from imr-da02.mx.aol.com (imr-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.144]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6HKklnp030895 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:47:58 -0400 Received: from imo-ma02.mx.aol.com (imo-ma02.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.137]) by imr-da02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n6HKkjwb018145 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:46:45 -0400 Received: from WABaldwin@aol.com by imo-ma02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id g.c43.4c8f30e2 (37134) for ; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:46:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-da02.mx.aol.com (smtprly-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.249.145]) by cia-ma02.mx.aol.com (v124.15) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMA028-5bb54a60e32d29f; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:46:41 -0400 Received: from webmail-mh39 (webmail-mh39.sim.aol.com [64.12.232.134]) by smtprly-da02.mx.aol.com (v124.15) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYDA024-5bb54a60e32d29f; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:46:37 -0400 References: <352199.39020.qm@web55604.mail.re4.yahoo.com> To: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-AOL-IP: 153.18.227.47 In-Reply-To: <352199.39020.qm@web55604.mail.re4.yahoo.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: wabaldwin@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 43792-STANDARD Received: from 153.18.227.47 by webmail-mh39.sysops.aol.com (64.12.232.134) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:46:38 -0400 Message-Id: <8CBD536D0B4ECEC-A88-103D@webmail-mh39.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag: NO Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Congregations with UUPA members X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:47:58 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:46:38 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:47:58 -0000 ...you have adult children.... BB -----Original Message----- From: Kathleen Reedy To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Sent: Fri, Jul 17, 2009 12:32 pm Subject: [UUPoly-L] Congregations with UUPA members Cedar Lane UU Church in Bethesda, MD ? I've been a member of CL much longer that I've been poly or a member of UUPA.? There are a few other members of this congregation who are poly, none of us have children here. ?Actually, more correctly, our offspring are adults. Kathleen _______________________________________________ The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. UUPoly-L mailing list UUPoly-L@uupa.org http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l From desmondravenstone@yahoo.com Fri Jul 17 18:07:55 2009 Received: from web50502.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web50502.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.38.78]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n6HM7t4v003902 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:07:55 -0400 Received: (qmail 62407 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Jul 2009 22:07:55 -0000 Message-ID: <289550.62161.qm@web50502.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: th8KVCwVM1mm_2gpeqrqOAUeHPqbFh6PKvLFjHCPFNBEYi12YEnAigCJSHa4t0XGuYJwMpaRAf8e5nQlXrRlCptEV.vr.RtySLPbhy.Ib5prE4K.wocNhsDm6d2URN7uX8DTtWV8Buvrw7m0iQ2PHbp0OHzMVlgoqaO_gDcgdujLrX_IEF1O3Hb9haW14zWX4kSW9wtepq5L3mRpvlD7xK9ov5ZVDad32s7JP0MfLbM351fN8UVhCsbWPNhMnGpFRZHSplta0gCpoFzg3PT1izRiqzdI5uKMmcOE2TsD9n9qgDGDrNohgov2ih3YwEHXKA-- Received: from [72.58.238.70] by web50502.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 15:07:54 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 From: Desmond Ravenstone To: uupoly-l@uupa.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Congregations with UUPA members X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 22:07:55 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 15:07:54 -0700 (PDT) X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 22:07:55 -0000 --- On Fri, 7/17/09, licorice gumdrop wrote: > ... I've been meaning to check out the Arlington church. > > - jenny You're always welcome! Desmond Ravenstone "Do not do unto others as you expect they should do unto you. Their tastes may not be the same." -- George Bernard Shaw http://ravenstonesreflections.blogspot.com http://www.myspace.com/desmond_ravenstone From valerie@valeriewhite.org Fri Jul 17 21:25:20 2009 Received: from cosmos.phy.tufts.edu (cosmos.phy.tufts.edu [130.64.83.16]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6I1O9mk016614 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:25:20 -0400 Received: from p92-11.acedsl.com ([66.114.92.11]:1368 helo=VW.valeriewhite.org) by cosmos.phy.tufts.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MRyen-0002mo-AA for uupoly-l@uupa.org; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:24:09 -0400 Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.2.20090717212015.04ee9008@valeriewhite.org> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 To: uupoly-l@uupa.org From: Valerie White Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 01:25:20 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:23:41 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 01:25:20 -0000 I've had twenty seven responses to my request for the names of UU congregations that folks attend . . . could the rest of y'all please also respond . . . I think this information about how many UU churches have polys in their pews is important for us to have in convincing ministers, DRE's and association leaders that UUPA's ministry is important. Just send me a one-liner with the name and town and state of the congregation where you sometimes go to church (you don't have to be a member). Valerie PS Home From diva@goldenvoid.com Fri Jul 17 21:35:18 2009 Received: from chronoglide.goldenvoid.com (acuriosity.com [64.250.232.26] (may be forged)) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6I1Y7UV017571 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:35:17 -0400 Received: from [192.168.42.60] (unknown [192.168.42.60]) by chronoglide.goldenvoid.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 097F3D7D6C for ; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:34:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4A612693.2070305@goldenvoid.com> From: Renee Christy User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: uupoly-l@uupa.org References: <7.0.1.0.2.20090717212015.04ee9008@valeriewhite.org> In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20090717212015.04ee9008@valeriewhite.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 01:35:18 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:34:11 -0700 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 01:35:18 -0000 Renee Christy Las Vegas NV UUCLV Valerie White wrote: > I've had twenty seven responses to my request for the names of UU > congregations that folks attend . . . could the rest of y'all please > also respond . . . I think this information about how many UU > churches have polys in their pews is important for us to have in > convincing ministers, DRE's and association leaders that UUPA's > ministry is important. > > Just send me a one-liner with the name and town and state of the > congregation where you sometimes go to church (you don't have to be a member). > > Valerie > > PS Home > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > From stacey.nj@gmail.com Fri Jul 17 21:56:35 2009 Received: from mail-vw0-f203.google.com (mail-vw0-f203.google.com [209.85.212.203]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6I1uZMm019112 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:56:35 -0400 Received: by vwj41 with SMTP id 41so1214794vwj.10 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:56:35 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.220.71.207 with SMTP id i15mr1581767vcj.77.1247882195072; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 18:56:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4A612693.2070305@goldenvoid.com> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20090717212015.04ee9008@valeriewhite.org> <4A612693.2070305@goldenvoid.com> Message-ID: <986f040907171856i2aa9b292l46969c9533f8dc0d@mail.gmail.com> From: Stacey Greenstein To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 01:56:35 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 15:56:35 -1000 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 01:56:35 -0000 Morristown UU Fellowship, Morristown, NJ On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 3:34 PM, Renee Christy wrote: > Renee Christy Las Vegas NV UUCLV > > Valerie White wrote: > > I've had twenty seven responses to my request for the names of UU > > congregations that folks attend . . . could the rest of y'all please > > also respond . . . I think this information about how many UU > > churches have polys in their pews is important for us to have in > > convincing ministers, DRE's and association leaders that UUPA's > > ministry is important. > > > > Just send me a one-liner with the name and town and state of the > > congregation where you sometimes go to church (you don't have to be a > member). > > > > Valerie > > > > PS Home > > > > _______________________________________________ > > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > > UUPoly-L mailing list > > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > -- a guy named Stacey From BryJ@cheqnet.net Fri Jul 17 21:57:58 2009 Received: from endeavour.airstreamcomm.net (endeavour.airstreamcomm.net [64.33.128.194]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6I1umFT019444 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:57:58 -0400 Received: from [64.33.184.120] (cab-dr-cas2-119.dial.airstreamcomm.net [64.33.184.120]) by endeavour.airstreamcomm.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 833DE440F2 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:56:44 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <4A612BDB.2060107@cheqnet.net> From: Bryan Johnson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: uupoly-l@uupa.org References: <7.0.1.0.2.20090717212015.04ee9008@valeriewhite.org> In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20090717212015.04ee9008@valeriewhite.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 01:57:59 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:56:43 -0500 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 01:57:59 -0000 We attend Chequamegon UU Fellowship, Ashland Wisconsin From kyttewynpeny@gmail.com Sat Jul 18 00:19:55 2009 Received: from mail-yx0-f190.google.com (mail-yx0-f190.google.com [209.85.210.190]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6I4JtnX027701 for ; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 00:19:55 -0400 Received: by yxe28 with SMTP id 28so2336122yxe.10 for ; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:19:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.151.105.16 with SMTP id h16mr1857476ybm.330.1247890791742; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:19:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20090717212015.04ee9008@valeriewhite.org> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20090717212015.04ee9008@valeriewhite.org> Message-ID: From: Barbara Allen To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 04:19:55 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 23:19:51 -0500 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 04:19:55 -0000 UU of Bloomington/Normal in IL /Babs On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 8:23 PM, Valerie White wrote: > I've had twenty seven responses to my request for the names of UU > congregations that folks attend . . . could the rest of y'all please > also respond . . . I think this information about how many UU > churches have polys in their pews is important for us to have in > convincing ministers, DRE's and association leaders that UUPA's > ministry is important. > > Just send me a one-liner with the name and town and state of the > congregation where you sometimes go to church (you don't have to be a > member). > > Valerie > > PS Home > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > From ArthurFreeheart@aol.com Sat Jul 18 00:31:46 2009 Received: from imr-da02.mx.aol.com (imr-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.144]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6I4UaJS028690 for ; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 00:31:46 -0400 Received: from imo-ma02.mx.aol.com (imo-ma02.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.137]) by imr-da02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n6I4UZZw030321 for ; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 00:30:35 -0400 Received: from ArthurFreeheart@aol.com by imo-ma02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id g.c80.54e5b78e (65099) for ; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 00:30:32 -0400 (EDT) From: ArthurFreeheart@aol.com Message-ID: To: uupoly-l@uupa.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5379 X-Spam-Flag: NO Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 04:31:47 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 00:30:59 EDT X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 04:31:47 -0000 UU of Canton NY **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. 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(http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222377099x1201454424/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd= JulystepsfooterNO62) From dragon_mbs_2000@yahoo.com Sat Jul 18 00:42:40 2009 Received: from web52108.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web52108.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.48.111]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n6I4fUPJ029905 for ; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 00:42:40 -0400 Received: (qmail 78214 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Jul 2009 04:41:30 -0000 Message-ID: <381626.74529.qm@web52108.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: va2AGgsVM1lDkEcO1bNHkTCsfXh6iVzb8URylVpjRIGZCAAKH9GCydJaRicXvRxZih2cGNtrB86gir1RSpAv9cU2P5uqnLFC4BGFfFIAtOxNkNAdZ3MdCI725LGjEwqJRn9E7Yp_tS8kv3P.pEtDHkIPh6p05Uc7WUJNbvCVlzA2zPa_LB.k3n5inwSAjGTkmX84v1keoTQOVo5Od75OKLRZASdS.yUly5PszDyv2wo7wcygBnE_wnRKlmWRg99He1JKVdtKhpTPR1hXuySolnAqySOZja.PJMDir__Cf2U0FMsNLAetk1zKDg3UJ7fAe2hK Received: from [24.7.22.243] by web52108.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:41:30 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 From: mbs dragon To: uupoly-l@uupa.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 04:42:41 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:41:30 -0700 (PDT) X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 04:42:41 -0000 We are at the Mount Diablo Unitarian Universalist Church in Walnut Creek, C= A.=A0 (About 30 miles outside San Francisco.) We are a poly family with 5 kids from preschool to high school.=A0 There ar= e two other out families in our congregation including one who is on staff.= =A0 The ministers are awesome.=A0 So are the religious ed leaders who inclu= ded a poly person on the panel of different sexualities for the high school= OWL class.=A0 :) :) Mary Beth Now is the moment to be a bungee jumper without the cord! And it is this qu= ality of absolute trust, with no reservations or secret safety nets, that t= he Knight of Water demands from us.=20 Osho International Foundation 2009 Trust Card --- On Fri, 7/17/09, Valerie White wrote: From: Valerie White Subject: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Date: Friday, July 17, 2009, 6:23 PM I've had twenty seven responses to my request for the names of UU=20 congregations that folks attend . . .=A0 could the rest of y'all please=20 also respond . . . I think this information about how many UU=20 churches have polys in their pews is important for us to have in=20 convincing ministers, DRE's and association leaders that UUPA's=20 ministry is important. Just send me a one-liner with the name and town and state of the=20 congregation where you sometimes go to church (you don't have to be a membe= r). Valerie PS=A0 Home _______________________________________________ The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. UUPoly-L mailing list UUPoly-L@uupa.org http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l =0A=0A=0A From airsafe1@comcast.net Sat Jul 18 01:28:59 2009 Received: from QMTA06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.56]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6I5Rmc6000963 for ; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 01:28:59 -0400 Received: from OMTA06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.51]) by QMTA06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id HHFp1c00516AWCUA6HTg4f; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 05:27:40 +0000 Received: from DaveVostro1400 ([68.189.106.146]) by OMTA06.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id HHTX1c00539YYSk8SHTamV; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 05:27:38 +0000 From: "David Hall" To: References: <7.0.1.0.2.20090717212015.04ee9008@valeriewhite.org> <78219.826.1247891083304.JavaMail.root@n01> Message-ID: <04F33F1A1D3C4AF2A3987A12C969A1DA@DaveVostro1400> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <78219.826.1247891083304.JavaMail.root@n01> Thread-Index: AcoHX6xzn7Auc/K+TTiBlgph+uxYLQAByF/g X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 05:28:59 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 22:27:25 -0700 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 05:28:59 -0000 A quick review of the membership records of UUPA show at least 53 congregations listed by active members. A look at all members, present and past, lists over 150 congregations, about 15% of all UU churches. Dave Hall -----Original Message----- From: uupoly-l-bounces+airsafe1=comcast.net@uupa.org [mailto:uupoly-l-bounces+airsafe1=comcast.net@uupa.org] On Behalf Of Barbara Allen Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 9:20 PM To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far UU of Bloomington/Normal in IL /Babs On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 8:23 PM, Valerie White wrote: > I've had twenty seven responses to my request for the names of UU > congregations that folks attend . . . could the rest of y'all please > also respond . . . I think this information about how many UU churches > have polys in their pews is important for us to have in convincing > ministers, DRE's and association leaders that UUPA's ministry is > important. > > Just send me a one-liner with the name and town and state of the > congregation where you sometimes go to church (you don't have to be a > member). > > Valerie > > PS Home > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > _______________________________________________ The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. UUPoly-L mailing list UUPoly-L@uupa.org http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l From SRS0=79jxnF=DL=dreamersparadise.com=dreams2fly@eigbox.net Sat Jul 18 02:06:55 2009 Received: from bosmailout15.eigbox.net (bosmailout15.eigbox.net [66.96.185.15]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6I65iZi003828 for ; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 02:06:55 -0400 Received: from bosmailscan17.eigbox.net ([10.20.15.17]) by bosmailout15.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1MS30F-0001PU-GT for uupoly-l@uupa.org; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 02:02:35 -0400 Received: from bosimpout01.eigbox.net ([10.20.55.1]) by bosmailscan17.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1MS30F-0007OF-BP for uupoly-l@uupa.org; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 02:02:35 -0400 Received: from bosauthsmtp08.eigbox.net ([10.20.18.8]) by bosimpout01.eigbox.net with NO UCE id HHyA1c0020ASroS0000000; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 01:58:10 -0400 X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.20.18.8 X-EN-IMPSID: HHyA1c0020ASroS0000000 Received: from ip68-104-112-177.lv.lv.cox.net ([68.104.112.177] helo=[192.168.2.4]) by bosauthsmtp08.eigbox.net with esmtpa (Exim) id 1MS303-0002o4-Q3 for uupoly-l@uupa.org; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 02:02:24 -0400 Message-ID: <4A6165E7.9020609@dreamersparadise.com> From: Beej User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: uupoly-l@uupa.org References: <7.0.1.0.2.20090717212015.04ee9008@valeriewhite.org> In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20090717212015.04ee9008@valeriewhite.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-EN-UserInfo: 8a131033da06f49ab98e369948761a77:7512ede6bd9034211cc0fe6983cd099a X-EN-AuthUser: dreamer@dreamersparadise.com Sender: Beej X-EN-OrigIP: 68.104.112.177 X-EN-OrigHost: ip68-104-112-177.lv.lv.cox.net Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 06:06:55 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 23:04:23 -0700 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 06:06:55 -0000 UUCLV Las Vegas, NV There are at least two poly families that I know of here including our own. B-J Valerie White wrote: > I've had twenty seven responses to my request for the names of UU > congregations that folks attend . . . could the rest of y'all please > also respond . . . I think this information about how many UU > churches have polys in their pews is important for us to have in > convincing ministers, DRE's and association leaders that UUPA's > ministry is important. > > Just send me a one-liner with the name and town and state of the > congregation where you sometimes go to church (you don't have to be a member). > > Valerie > > PS Home > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > > From dharmamama1@gmail.com Sat Jul 18 07:18:51 2009 Received: from mail-yx0-f190.google.com (mail-yx0-f190.google.com [209.85.210.190]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6IBIoGg021774 for ; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 07:18:50 -0400 Received: by yxe28 with SMTP id 28so2529543yxe.10 for ; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 04:18:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.100.43.10 with SMTP id q10mr2880786anq.125.1247915930124; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 04:18:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.100? (cpe-069-132-179-123.carolina.res.rr.com [69.132.179.123]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c28sm888443anc.9.2009.07.18.04.18.49 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 18 Jul 2009 04:18:49 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20090717212015.04ee9008@valeriewhite.org> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20090717212015.04ee9008@valeriewhite.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <92025B28-0043-4B1F-8646-3C8A5FA382D4@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Caren KH To: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 11:18:51 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 07:18:47 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 11:18:51 -0000 I haven't yet been in a poly relationship, but I'm open to that. I'm single now, but should I enter another relationship, it's important that my partner be on board with that. I attend the UU Church of Charlotte, in Charlotte, NC Caren On Jul 17, 2009, at 9:23 PM, Valerie White wrote: > I've had twenty seven responses to my request for the names of UU > congregations that folks attend . . . could the rest of y'all please > also respond . . . I think this information about how many UU > churches have polys in their pews is important for us to have in > convincing ministers, DRE's and association leaders that UUPA's > ministry is important. > > Just send me a one-liner with the name and town and state of the > congregation where you sometimes go to church (you don't have to be > a member). > > Valerie > > PS Home > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about > yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l From boydw.smith@yahoo.com Sat Jul 18 08:56:57 2009 Received: from web110511.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (web110511.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [67.195.8.116]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n6ICtk5Z027454 for ; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 08:56:56 -0400 Received: (qmail 96692 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Jul 2009 12:55:45 -0000 Message-ID: <478105.96346.qm@web110511.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: QOiNJ1gVM1mNdwHeFbsJOpwom3N2Ff4SGShalZ.pbitWHqPoDzepyOmhsbZjcCiYfG5d9czw0zl2di9dXDhGaUbfQE79Tc6vx.OrPXuyqYW2g9zil0SaUQjdlKFoeUhrc9o5o29CXzHB9G7A2QH6QGGdntepcSIVch1X6KurJoqzpYfERP4T5ElYUjzE8ZPzXfI7qZjhlzgUdvVELY7l.z6C_njr7b.XxRVLvYnIuSpHmC05Eoy2dIAOZjve7YgVewmrYjVlUbeUw9oD6DN8zzvOPGulaiFfecImWeSIu3vjVl2UUONk1Q05Ji77WUCOOkWfPu09vCAWJNvVJHw2qQSUsZbPKmqF6RZ8zA-- Received: from [66.135.29.107] by web110511.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 05:55:45 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.0.18 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 From: Boyd Smith To: uupoly-l@uupa.org In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20090717212015.04ee9008@valeriewhite.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by msb.ernest-doss.org id n6ICtk5Z027454 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 12:56:57 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 05:55:44 -0700 (PDT) X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 12:56:57 -0000 My Fiance and I attend Spindletop Unitarian in Beaumont, TX. BWS --- On Fri, 7/17/09, Valerie White wrote: > From: Valerie White > Subject: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far > To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > Date: Friday, July 17, 2009, 8:23 PM > I've had twenty seven responses to my > request for the names of UU > congregations that folks attend . . .  could the rest > of y'all please > also respond . . . I think this information about how many > UU > churches have polys in their pews is important for us to > have in > convincing ministers, DRE's and association leaders that > UUPA's > ministry is important. > > Just send me a one-liner with the name and town and state > of the > congregation where you sometimes go to church (you don't > have to be a member). > > Valerie > > PS  Home > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal > about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > From JasmineGld@aol.com Sat Jul 18 09:14:15 2009 Received: from imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (imr-ma04.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.42]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6IDD5kQ028885 for ; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 09:14:15 -0400 Received: from imo-ma01.mx.aol.com (imo-ma01.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.136]) by imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n6IDD5GW031768 for ; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 09:13:05 -0400 Received: from JasmineGld@aol.com by imo-ma01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id g.c47.5ec12a0f (37568) for ; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 09:13:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-da03.mx.aol.com (smtprly-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.249.146]) by cia-mb04.mx.aol.com (v124.15) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMB045-5bbe4a61ca583b0; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 09:13:00 -0400 Received: from WEBMAIL-MC05 (webmail-mc05.webmail.aol.com [64.12.170.82]) by smtprly-da03.mx.aol.com (v124.15) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYDA035-5bbe4a61ca583b0; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 09:12:56 -0400 To: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-AOL-IP: 71.97.88.65 In-Reply-To: <478105.96346.qm@web110511.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: jasminegld@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 43792-STANDARD Received: from 71.97.88.65 by WEBMAIL-MC05.sysops.aol.com (64.12.170.82) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 18 Jul 2009 09:12:56 -0400 Message-Id: <8CBD5C0992C39BC-14A4-BC9@WEBMAIL-MC05.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag: NO Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 13:14:16 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 09:12:56 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 13:14:16 -0000 Rodney and I attend First Unitarian Church in Louisville, Kentucky. . If anyone wants their home congregation posted, but doesn't want to post it themselves, please send the name of the congregation to me offlist, and I'll post it for you. . Jasmine .----------------- Jasmine Walston UUPA Secretary From mnstrm@erosong.net Sat Jul 18 11:00:33 2009 Received: from mail-yx0-f190.google.com (mail-yx0-f190.google.com [209.85.210.190]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6IF0XXZ004078 for ; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 11:00:33 -0400 Received: by yxe28 with SMTP id 28so2648550yxe.10 for ; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 08:00:32 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.52.2 with SMTP id z2mr2548014ybz.179.1247929232211; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 08:00:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8CBD5C0992C39BC-14A4-BC9@WEBMAIL-MC05.sysops.aol.com> References: <478105.96346.qm@web110511.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <8CBD5C0992C39BC-14A4-BC9@WEBMAIL-MC05.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: From: Moonstorm Erosong To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 15:00:33 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 08:00:32 -0700 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 15:00:33 -0000 Edmonds Unitarian Universalist Church, Edmonds WA. On 7/18/09, jasminegld@aol.com wrote: > > > Rodney and I attend First Unitarian Church in Louisville, Kentucky. > . > > > If anyone wants their home congregation posted, but doesn't want to post it > themselves, > please send the name of the congregation to me offlist, and I'll post it for > you. > . > > > > Jasmine > > .----------------- > Jasmine Walston > UUPA Secretary > > > > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > From dindymene@gmail.com Sat Jul 18 11:26:15 2009 Received: from mail-px0-f184.google.com (mail-px0-f184.google.com [209.85.216.184]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6IFQF2b005952 for ; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 11:26:15 -0400 Received: by pxi14 with SMTP id 14so1025111pxi.10 for ; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 08:26:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.93.1 with SMTP id q1mr3649300wab.209.1247930773583; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 08:26:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MEsLaptop (ovelorem.dsl.xmission.com [166.70.56.121]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m28sm5409951waf.37.2009.07.18.08.26.11 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 18 Jul 2009 08:26:12 -0700 (PDT) From: "Mary Elizabeth Mitchell" To: References: <478105.96346.qm@web110511.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <8CBD5C0992C39BC-14A4-BC9@WEBMAIL-MC05.sysops.aol.com> In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000301ca07bc$0fde6680$2f9b3380$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcoHuIPLnDsYIT+hQD2mFC/dFjoj7wAA2Ekg Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 15:26:15 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 09:26:00 -0600 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 15:26:15 -0000 South Valley UU and occasionally First UU in Salt Lake City, UT > -----Original Message----- > From: uupoly-l-bounces+dindymene=gmail.com@uupa.org [mailto:uupoly-l- > bounces+dindymene=gmail.com@uupa.org] On Behalf Of Moonstorm Erosong > Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 9:01 AM > To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far > > Edmonds Unitarian Universalist Church, Edmonds WA. > > On 7/18/09, jasminegld@aol.com wrote: > > > > > > Rodney and I attend First Unitarian Church in Louisville, Kentucky. > > . > > > > > > If anyone wants their home congregation posted, but doesn't want to > > post it themselves, please send the name of the congregation to me > > offlist, and I'll post it for you. > > . > > > > > > > > Jasmine > > > > .----------------- > > Jasmine Walston > > UUPA Secretary > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about > yourself. > > UUPoly-L mailing list > > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about > yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l From econdevplanner@gmail.com Sat Jul 18 12:07:51 2009 Received: from mail-px0-f184.google.com (mail-px0-f184.google.com [209.85.216.184]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6IG7obg008859 for ; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 12:07:51 -0400 Received: by pxi14 with SMTP id 14so1036053pxi.10 for ; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 09:07:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.12.7 with SMTP id 7mr525279wfl.11.1247933268543; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 09:07:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2feb844b0907180907y58d8017fod56b4fc9b01353d9@mail.gmail.com> From: Steve Wade To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] UUPoly-L Digest, Vol 58, Issue 12 X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 16:07:51 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 12:07:48 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 16:07:51 -0000 There are at least two poly families in our Juneau UU Fellowship. Steve On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 12:00 PM, wrote: > Send UUPoly-L mailing list submissions to > uupoly-l@uupa.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > uupoly-l-request@uupa.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > uupoly-l-owner@uupa.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of UUPoly-L digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: up to 27 so far (Beej) > 2. Re: up to 27 so far (Caren KH) > 3. Re: up to 27 so far (Boyd Smith) > 4. Re: up to 27 so far (jasminegld@aol.com) > 5. Re: up to 27 so far (Moonstorm Erosong) > 6. Re: up to 27 so far (Mary Elizabeth Mitchell) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 23:04:23 -0700 > From: Beej > Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far > To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > Message-ID: <4A6165E7.9020609@dreamersparadise.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > UUCLV Las Vegas, NV > > There are at least two poly families that I know of here including our own. > > B-J > > Valerie White wrote: > > I've had twenty seven responses to my request for the names of UU > > congregations that folks attend . . . could the rest of y'all please > > also respond . . . I think this information about how many UU > > churches have polys in their pews is important for us to have in > > convincing ministers, DRE's and association leaders that UUPA's > > ministry is important. > > > > Just send me a one-liner with the name and town and state of the > > congregation where you sometimes go to church (you don't have to be a > member). > > > > Valerie > > > > PS Home > > > > _______________________________________________ > > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > > UUPoly-L mailing list > > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 07:18:47 -0400 > From: Caren KH > Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far > To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > Message-ID: <92025B28-0043-4B1F-8646-3C8A5FA382D4@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > I haven't yet been in a poly relationship, but I'm open to that. I'm > single now, but should I enter another relationship, it's important > that my partner be on board with that. > > I attend the UU Church of Charlotte, in Charlotte, NC > > Caren > > On Jul 17, 2009, at 9:23 PM, Valerie White wrote: > > > I've had twenty seven responses to my request for the names of UU > > congregations that folks attend . . . could the rest of y'all please > > also respond . . . I think this information about how many UU > > churches have polys in their pews is important for us to have in > > convincing ministers, DRE's and association leaders that UUPA's > > ministry is important. > > > > Just send me a one-liner with the name and town and state of the > > congregation where you sometimes go to church (you don't have to be > > a member). > > > > Valerie > > > > PS Home > > > > _______________________________________________ > > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about > > yourself. > > UUPoly-L mailing list > > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 05:55:44 -0700 (PDT) > From: Boyd Smith > Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far > To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > Message-ID: <478105.96346.qm@web110511.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > > My Fiance and I attend Spindletop Unitarian in Beaumont, TX. > > BWS > > --- On Fri, 7/17/09, Valerie White wrote: > > > From: Valerie White > > Subject: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far > > To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > > Date: Friday, July 17, 2009, 8:23 PM > > I've had twenty seven responses to my > > request for the names of UU > > congregations that folks attend . . .? could the rest > > of y'all please > > also respond . . . I think this information about how many > > UU > > churches have polys in their pews is important for us to > > have in > > convincing ministers, DRE's and association leaders that > > UUPA's > > ministry is important. > > > > Just send me a one-liner with the name and town and state > > of the > > congregation where you sometimes go to church (you don't > > have to be a member). > > > > Valerie > > > > PS? Home > > > > _______________________________________________ > > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal > > about yourself. > > UUPoly-L mailing list > > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 09:12:56 -0400 > From: jasminegld@aol.com > Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far > To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > Message-ID: <8CBD5C0992C39BC-14A4-BC9@WEBMAIL-MC05.sysops.aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > Rodney and I attend First Unitarian Church in Louisville, Kentucky. > . > > > If anyone wants their home congregation posted, but doesn't want to post it > themselves, > please send the name of the congregation to me offlist, and I'll post it > for you. > . > > > > Jasmine > > .----------------- > Jasmine Walston > UUPA Secretary > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 08:00:32 -0700 > From: Moonstorm Erosong > Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far > To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Edmonds Unitarian Universalist Church, Edmonds WA. > > On 7/18/09, jasminegld@aol.com wrote: > > > > > > Rodney and I attend First Unitarian Church in Louisville, Kentucky. > > . > > > > > > If anyone wants their home congregation posted, but doesn't want to post > it > > themselves, > > please send the name of the congregation to me offlist, and I'll post it > for > > you. > > . > > > > > > > > Jasmine > > > > .----------------- > > Jasmine Walston > > UUPA Secretary > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > > UUPoly-L mailing list > > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 09:26:00 -0600 > From: "Mary Elizabeth Mitchell" > Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far > To: > Message-ID: <000301ca07bc$0fde6680$2f9b3380$@com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > South Valley UU and occasionally First UU in Salt Lake City, UT > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: uupoly-l-bounces+dindymene=gmail.com@uupa.org [mailto:uupoly-l- > > bounces+dindymene=gmail.com@uupa.org] On Behalf Of Moonstorm Erosong > > Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 9:01 AM > > To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > > Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far > > > > Edmonds Unitarian Universalist Church, Edmonds WA. > > > > On 7/18/09, jasminegld@aol.com wrote: > > > > > > > > > Rodney and I attend First Unitarian Church in Louisville, Kentucky. > > > . > > > > > > > > > If anyone wants their home congregation posted, but doesn't want to > > > post it themselves, please send the name of the congregation to me > > > offlist, and I'll post it for you. > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > Jasmine > > > > > > .----------------- > > > Jasmine Walston > > > UUPA Secretary > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > > > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about > > yourself. > > > UUPoly-L mailing list > > > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > > > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about > > yourself. > > UUPoly-L mailing list > > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > > > End of UUPoly-L Digest, Vol 58, Issue 12 > **************************************** > From SESpruiell@aol.com Sat Jul 18 14:07:31 2009 Received: from imr-da05.mx.aol.com (imr-da05.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.147]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6II6LE6016925 for ; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 14:07:31 -0400 Received: from imo-da01.mx.aol.com (imo-da01.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.199]) by imr-da05.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n6II6Fas021450 for ; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 14:06:15 -0400 Received: from SESpruiell@aol.com by imo-da01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id g.cd4.5190cc97 (37073) for ; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 14:06:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from SpruiellHome-PC.nyc.rr.com (cpe-69-203-206-94.nyc.res.rr.com [69.203.206.94]) by cia-db05.mx.aol.com (v124.15) with ESMTP id MAILCIADB057-90d14a620f1320a; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 14:06:12 -0400 From: sespruiell To: uupoly-l@uupa.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <13266261.4787.45bf.9cd3.52e4a2aa5ae7@aol.com> References: X-Mailer: Nexus Desktop Client 3.1.20.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-AOL-IP: 69.203.206.94 X-Spam-Flag: NO Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] UUPoly-L Digest, Vol 58, Issue 12 X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 18:07:31 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 14:06:04 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 18:07:31 -0000 First Unitarian Congregational Society In Brooklyn (New York.) I also like the Fourth Universalist Church of New York (New York.) Selah Eric Spruiell In a message dated 07/18/09 12:00:41 Eastern Daylight Time, uupoly-l-request@uupa.org writes: Send UUPoly-L mailing list submissions to uupoly-l@uupa.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to uupoly-l-request@uupa.org You can reach the person managing the list at uupoly-l-owner@uupa.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of UUPoly-L digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: up to 27 so far (Beej) 2. Re: up to 27 so far (Caren KH) 3. Re: up to 27 so far (Boyd Smith) 4. Re: up to 27 so far (jasminegld@aol.com) 5. Re: up to 27 so far (Moonstorm Erosong) 6. Re: up to 27 so far (Mary Elizabeth Mitchell) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 23:04:23 -0700 From: Beej Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Message-ID: <4A6165E7.9020609@dreamersparadise.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed UUCLV Las Vegas, NV There are at least two poly families that I know of here including our own. B-J Valerie White wrote: > I've had twenty seven responses to my request for the names of UU > congregations that folks attend . . . could the rest of y'all please > also respond . . . I think this information about how many UU > churches have polys in their pews is important for us to have in > convincing ministers, DRE's and association leaders that UUPA's > ministry is important. > > Just send me a one-liner with the name and town and state of the > congregation where you sometimes go to church (you don't have to be a member). > > Valerie > > PS Home > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > > ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 07:18:47 -0400 From: Caren KH Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Message-ID: <92025B28-0043-4B1F-8646-3C8A5FA382D4@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed I haven't yet been in a poly relationship, but I'm open to that. I'm single now, but should I enter another relationship, it's important that my partner be on board with that. I attend the UU Church of Charlotte, in Charlotte, NC Caren On Jul 17, 2009, at 9:23 PM, Valerie White wrote: > I've had twenty seven responses to my request for the names of UU > congregations that folks attend . . . could the rest of y'all please > also respond . . . I think this information about how many UU > churches have polys in their pews is important for us to have in > convincing ministers, DRE's and association leaders that UUPA's > ministry is important. > > Just send me a one-liner with the name and town and state of the > congregation where you sometimes go to church (you don't have to be > a member). > > Valerie > > PS Home > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about > yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 05:55:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Boyd Smith Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Message-ID: <478105.96346.qm@web110511.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 My Fiance and I attend Spindletop Unitarian in Beaumont, TX. BWS --- On Fri, 7/17/09, Valerie White wrote: > From: Valerie White > Subject: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far > To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > Date: Friday, July 17, 2009, 8:23 PM > I've had twenty seven responses to my > request for the names of UU > congregations that folks attend . . .? could the rest > of y'all please > also respond . . . I think this information about how many > UU > churches have polys in their pews is important for us to > have in > convincing ministers, DRE's and association leaders that > UUPA's > ministry is important. > > Just send me a one-liner with the name and town and state > of the > congregation where you sometimes go to church (you don't > have to be a member). > > Valerie > > PS? Home > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal > about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 09:12:56 -0400 From: jasminegld@aol.com Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Message-ID: <8CBD5C0992C39BC-14A4-BC9@WEBMAIL-MC05.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Rodney and I attend First Unitarian Church in Louisville, Kentucky. . If anyone wants their home congregation posted, but doesn't want to post it themselves, please send the name of the congregation to me offlist, and I'll post it for you. . Jasmine .----------------- Jasmine Walston UUPA Secretary ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 08:00:32 -0700 From: Moonstorm Erosong Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Edmonds Unitarian Universalist Church, Edmonds WA. On 7/18/09, jasminegld@aol.com wrote: > > > Rodney and I attend First Unitarian Church in Louisville, Kentucky. > . > > > If anyone wants their home congregation posted, but doesn't want to post it > themselves, > please send the name of the congregation to me offlist, and I'll post it for > you. > . > > > > Jasmine > > .----------------- > Jasmine Walston > UUPA Secretary > > > > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 09:26:00 -0600 From: "Mary Elizabeth Mitchell" Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far To: Message-ID: <000301ca07bc$0fde6680$2f9b3380$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" South Valley UU and occasionally First UU in Salt Lake City, UT > -----Original Message----- > From: uupoly-l-bounces+dindymene=gmail.com@uupa.org [mailto:uupoly-l- > bounces+dindymene=gmail.com@uupa.org] On Behalf Of Moonstorm Erosong > Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 9:01 AM > To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far > > Edmonds Unitarian Universalist Church, Edmonds WA. > > On 7/18/09, jasminegld@aol.com wrote: > > > > > > Rodney and I attend First Unitarian Church in Louisville, Kentucky. > > . > > > > > > If anyone wants their home congregation posted, but doesn't want to > > post it themselves, please send the name of the congregation to me > > offlist, and I'll post it for you. > > . > > > > > > > > Jasmine > > > > .----------------- > > Jasmine Walston > > UUPA Secretary > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about > yourself. > > UUPoly-L mailing list > > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about > yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. UUPoly-L mailing list UUPoly-L@uupa.org http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l End of UUPoly-L Digest, Vol 58, Issue 12 **************************************** From stargazngal@yahoo.com Sat Jul 18 14:16:23 2009 Received: from n14.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (n14.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.41]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n6IIFDlK017829 for ; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 14:16:23 -0400 Received: from [68.142.200.225] by n14.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Jul 2009 18:15:13 -0000 Received: from [68.142.201.66] by t6.bullet.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Jul 2009 18:15:13 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp418.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Jul 2009 18:15:13 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 35680.40117.bm@omp418.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 46401 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Jul 2009 18:15:12 -0000 Message-ID: <503112.45685.qm@web45212.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 5FtwpL0VM1nCwUrhySLH8mSJJlfD2o1buVgu0M57ejYNIPwXZaEgVm13WX0XXtsRap53hXmk4K5tcViYvPkN1qfbniYg3bMsvMnOrw3YYAyFHc0BeDK_zIkKH8JY9sEVqYR8xBsDAiHPt4oJU2rwsJq8.p.yhfPKZwfPX3AZo.xXOlkex6VRc2Ie_GT8DhALMGXuyuWH0RtRV7rJCPem0BkOMjUk.qsfa3v9s.Fyu0dBrckzlfU14.6SxatdrgRbNBIVE_nYS1dKtmCWEprNkKKknwG7Vh21fDKD8UqXRcMLYbay Received: from [97.73.64.167] by web45212.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 11:15:12 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.0.18 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 From: stargazngal To: uupoly-l@uupa.org In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20090717212015.04ee9008@valeriewhite.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 18:16:23 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 11:15:12 -0700 (PDT) X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 18:16:23 -0000 I'm a member of UUCY in York, PA, although I haven't attended much for a fe= w years.=A0=A0 I am not "out", and unfortunately due to personal circumstan= ces, I doubt I ever will be.=A0 :(=A0=A0=A0 I have spoken to our community = minister about my situation, and she was extremely supportive.=A0 She isn't= aware of other poly families, although I do think it would be fairly well = accepted at UUCY.=A0=A0=20 =A0 Stargazngal --- On Fri, 7/17/09, Valerie White wrote: From: Valerie White Subject: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Date: Friday, July 17, 2009, 9:23 PM I've had twenty seven responses to my request for the names of UU=20 congregations that folks attend . . .=A0 could the rest of y'all please=20 also respond . . . I think this information about how many UU=20 churches have polys in their pews is important for us to have in=20 convincing ministers, DRE's and association leaders that UUPA's=20 ministry is important. Just send me a one-liner with the name and town and state of the=20 congregation where you sometimes go to church (you don't have to be a membe= r). Valerie PS=A0 Home _______________________________________________ The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. UUPoly-L mailing list UUPoly-L@uupa.org http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l =0A=0A=0A From holisticbeth@yahoo.com Sat Jul 18 14:21:55 2009 Received: from web50009.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web50009.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.38.24]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n6IILtjP018569 for ; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 14:21:55 -0400 Received: (qmail 143 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Jul 2009 18:21:54 -0000 Message-ID: <714816.99965.qm@web50009.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: IE3x1IIVM1kLN2b3DgvEin.O9YDZ7z_CDAKYSW0UIGzyBlnEqYT7kJOPgWZo.PL0Hqt1Lr7RWQOWw.ro5qMjZ8CAcPy8_61EusnDQAGAc1sRHUF714QSYxALtbzPNFrePyYhD8_V5ovrRqZN3qzEaGtgZeQpoGgZyw.f76elhXgoFokS3EMI3IAzqnt8PzVSuSUtDBnpsxrRuVejZ1hTymbcC5Kbkr1lIdSHhwgWSzN.3T06WgQ4bUnDpAEVNgRw8gB.TktSsguOxucs05.JPOKBa09GzTc0d3gUtJ5daSUYxu3RiKiq4pfvRWhAggdoyxWyAoqJ5zu3LDTRHItCSKr1H87i.BoeIEBTUfhilq7OUrm.2RU- Received: from [66.215.247.25] by web50009.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 11:21:53 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.338.1 From: elizabeth bridygham To: uupoly-l@uupa.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by msb.ernest-doss.org id n6IILtjP018569 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] congregation attended X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 18:21:55 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 11:21:53 -0700 (PDT) X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 18:21:55 -0000 Universalist Unitarian Church of Riverside, Riverside, California. --- On Sat, 7/18/09, uupoly-l-request@uupa.org wrote: > From: uupoly-l-request@uupa.org > Subject: UUPoly-L Digest, Vol 58, Issue 12 > To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > Date: Saturday, July 18, 2009, 9:00 AM > Send UUPoly-L mailing list > submissions to >     uupoly-l@uupa.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >     http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' > to >     uupoly-l-request@uupa.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at >     uupoly-l-owner@uupa.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more > specific > than "Re: Contents of UUPoly-L digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > >    1. Re: up to 27 so far (Beej) >    2. Re: up to 27 so far (Caren KH) >    3. Re: up to 27 so far (Boyd Smith) >    4. Re: up to 27 so far (jasminegld@aol.com) >    5. Re: up to 27 so far (Moonstorm > Erosong) >    6. Re: up to 27 so far (Mary Elizabeth > Mitchell) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 23:04:23 -0700 > From: Beej > Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far > To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > Message-ID: <4A6165E7.9020609@dreamersparadise.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; > format=flowed > > UUCLV Las Vegas, NV > > There are at least two poly families that I know of here > including our own. > > B-J > > Valerie White wrote: > > I've had twenty seven responses to my request for the > names of UU > > congregations that folks attend . . .  could the > rest of y'all please > > also respond . . . I think this information about how > many UU > > churches have polys in their pews is important for us > to have in > > convincing ministers, DRE's and association leaders > that UUPA's > > ministry is important. > > > > Just send me a one-liner with the name and town and > state of the > > congregation where you sometimes go to church (you > don't have to be a member). > > > > Valerie > > > > PS  Home > > > > _______________________________________________ > > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to > reveal about yourself. > > UUPoly-L mailing list > > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > > > >    > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 07:18:47 -0400 > From: Caren KH > Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far > To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > Message-ID: <92025B28-0043-4B1F-8646-3C8A5FA382D4@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; > format=flowed > > I haven't yet been in a poly relationship, but I'm open to > that. I'm  > single now, but should I enter another relationship, it's > important  > that my partner be on board with that. > > I attend the UU Church of Charlotte, in Charlotte, NC > > Caren > > On Jul 17, 2009, at 9:23 PM, Valerie White wrote: > > > I've had twenty seven responses to my request for the > names of UU > > congregations that folks attend . . .  could the > rest of y'all please > > also respond . . . I think this information about how > many UU > > churches have polys in their pews is important for us > to have in > > convincing ministers, DRE's and association leaders > that UUPA's > > ministry is important. > > > > Just send me a one-liner with the name and town and > state of the > > congregation where you sometimes go to church (you > don't have to be  > > a member). > > > > Valerie > > > > PS  Home > > > > _______________________________________________ > > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to > reveal about  > > yourself. > > UUPoly-L mailing list > > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 05:55:44 -0700 (PDT) > From: Boyd Smith > Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far > To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > Message-ID: <478105.96346.qm@web110511.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > > My Fiance and I attend Spindletop Unitarian in Beaumont, > TX. > > BWS > > --- On Fri, 7/17/09, Valerie White > wrote: > > > From: Valerie White > > Subject: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far > > To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > > Date: Friday, July 17, 2009, 8:23 PM > > I've had twenty seven responses to my > > request for the names of UU > > congregations that folks attend . . .? could the rest > > of y'all please > > also respond . . . I think this information about how > many > > UU > > churches have polys in their pews is important for us > to > > have in > > convincing ministers, DRE's and association leaders > that > > UUPA's > > ministry is important. > > > > Just send me a one-liner with the name and town and > state > > of the > > congregation where you sometimes go to church (you > don't > > have to be a member). > > > > Valerie > > > > PS? Home > > > > _______________________________________________ > > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to > reveal > > about yourself. > > UUPoly-L mailing list > > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > > > > >       > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 09:12:56 -0400 > From: jasminegld@aol.com > Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far > To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > Message-ID: <8CBD5C0992C39BC-14A4-BC9@WEBMAIL-MC05.sysops.aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > > > Rodney and I attend First Unitarian Church in Louisville, > Kentucky. > . > > > If anyone wants their home congregation posted, but doesn't > want to post it themselves, > please send the name of the congregation to me offlist, and > I'll post it for you. > . > > > > Jasmine > > .----------------- > Jasmine Walston > UUPA Secretary > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 08:00:32 -0700 > From: Moonstorm Erosong > Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far > To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > Message-ID: >     > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Edmonds Unitarian Universalist Church, Edmonds WA. > > On 7/18/09, jasminegld@aol.com > > wrote: > > > > > > Rodney and I attend First Unitarian Church in > Louisville, Kentucky. > > . > > > > > > If anyone wants their home congregation posted, but > doesn't want to post it > > themselves, > > please send the name of the congregation to me > offlist, and I'll post it for > > you. > > . > > > > > > > > Jasmine > > > > .----------------- > > Jasmine Walston > > UUPA Secretary > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to > reveal about yourself. > > UUPoly-L mailing list > > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 09:26:00 -0600 > From: "Mary Elizabeth Mitchell" > Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far > To: > Message-ID: <000301ca07bc$0fde6680$2f9b3380$@com> > Content-Type: text/plain;    > charset="us-ascii" > > South Valley UU and occasionally First UU in Salt Lake > City, UT > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: uupoly-l-bounces+dindymene=gmail.com@uupa.org > [mailto:uupoly-l- > > bounces+dindymene=gmail.com@uupa.org] > On Behalf Of Moonstorm Erosong > > Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 9:01 AM > > To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > > Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far > > > > Edmonds Unitarian Universalist Church, Edmonds WA. > > > > On 7/18/09, jasminegld@aol.com > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Rodney and I attend First Unitarian Church in > Louisville, Kentucky. > > > . > > > > > > > > > If anyone wants their home congregation posted, > but doesn't want to > > > post it themselves, please send the name of the > congregation to me > > > offlist, and I'll post it for you. > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > Jasmine > > > > > > .----------------- > > > Jasmine Walston > > > UUPA Secretary > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > > > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much > to reveal about > > yourself. > > > UUPoly-L mailing list > > > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > > > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to > reveal about > > yourself. > > UUPoly-L mailing list > > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal > about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > > > End of UUPoly-L Digest, Vol 58, Issue 12 > **************************************** > From jerryberry48@yahoo.com Sat Jul 18 15:10:44 2009 Received: from web51507.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web51507.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.38.199]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n6IJAhQh021885 for ; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 15:10:44 -0400 Received: (qmail 72433 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Jul 2009 19:10:43 -0000 Message-ID: <738935.72199.qm@web51507.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: uIzudusVM1n2fHTzwci9zLf_B0VQ5z98lFheiOhKCV8rjJwPvO8vG2ks9aUsYA4HRiZfdfEBrJRnKQ5nxi92Iru_xwBcCrICspf.R1ujqJYTy.u3G4VHpwxjFsLoZaY1_ZDHXBxoh9Lpa4ERpjMKyUv4oD81iXIJCt_AVQjnN8Bjrfe5CbXfqgWd5GIlc3T1Rm.k6IgZRN1svwEtpHBaSWOSTlwHT83q1iWob_yKaxDoSnOUtAnKttl8pet7XhrySzfRPST5beKK47YkT79Acql2TCAaX_4g7woSQ22cQfnBYinfqsSA3eTuU.shF8EuEx1ns83f Received: from [24.21.183.108] by web51507.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 12:10:43 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 From: Jerryberry48 To: uupoly-l@uupa.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 19:10:44 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 12:10:43 -0700 (PDT) X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 19:10:44 -0000 If I attend at all it would be either the 1st Unitarian Church in downtown Portland, Oregon or to the UU on Oleson SW also in Portland.Jerry Gilkerson --- On Sat, 7/18/09, Moonstorm Erosong wrote: From: Moonstorm Erosong Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Date: Saturday, July 18, 2009, 8:00 AM Edmonds Unitarian Universalist Church, Edmonds WA. On 7/18/09, jasminegld@aol.com wrote: > > > Rodney and I attend First Unitarian Church in Louisville, Kentucky. > . > > > If anyone wants their home congregation posted, but doesn't want to post it > themselves, > please send the name of the congregation to me offlist, and I'll post it for > you. > . > > > > Jasmine > > .----------------- > Jasmine Walston > UUPA Secretary > > > > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > _______________________________________________ The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. UUPoly-L mailing list UUPoly-L@uupa.org http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l From joybirdpt@yahoo.com Sat Jul 18 15:16:45 2009 Received: from web112417.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (web112417.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.137.26.185]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n6IJFYhW022562 for ; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 15:16:45 -0400 Received: (qmail 49897 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Jul 2009 19:15:34 -0000 Message-ID: <994924.49258.qm@web112417.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ssVaTEUVM1mqmsnErgyVUr.XwKOU58xil703G2xYnhDHSBoxzOp._hwFYTNnKVMWbxmuVx.zNnxQhk1ge5WraCnWHY_Jmk7kcF2A.ELxYJ.8DpzcottDQ1Cr_.LRrXfxOTYBGDVp.u1hXd90nGBDcu_EsP6mKZn_cML7iAzOAU6k6B86CQFiQnn_f.xns0QooNmH9IoU.TfU2IX2OuMh1cRRI8VCYrLweBBdjUZwHzTGw0ACES.AsF6O_Vh6faWQpWyTGhn0E.FqQ0mdv15aCba_yIqyC61xCG45VxNEfpOxlyu0cQpdjgxITbRlKKSfJc8IGOTKN9SZQFGhCNIqjTG04c.MjmePOQs- Received: from [4.248.39.116] by web112417.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 12:15:33 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.0.18 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 From: Joyce Burton To: uupoly-l@uupa.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 19:16:45 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 12:15:33 -0700 (PDT) X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 19:16:45 -0000 Thomas Jefferson Memorial Church, Charlottesville, Virginia =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Message: 6 Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:23:41 -0400 From: Valerie White Subject: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far To:=A0uupoly-l@uupa.org Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20090717212015.04ee9008@valeriewhite.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii"; format=3Dflowed I've had twenty seven responses to my request for the names of UU=A0 congregations that folks attend . . .=A0 could the rest of y'all please=A0 also respond . . . I think this information about how many UU=A0 churches have polys in their pews is important for us to have in=A0 convincing ministers, DRE's and association leaders that UUPA's=A0 ministry is important. Just send me a one-liner with the name and town and state of the=A0 congregation where you sometimes go to church (you don't have to be a membe= r). Valerie PS=A0 Home =0A=0A=0A From brigittefires@gmail.com Sat Jul 18 15:46:23 2009 Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.155]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6IJkMEV024497 for ; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 15:46:22 -0400 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so418211fgb.20 for ; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 12:45:21 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.86.51.8 with SMTP id y8mr1994412fgy.63.1247946321642; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 12:45:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20090717212015.04ee9008@valeriewhite.org> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20090717212015.04ee9008@valeriewhite.org> Message-ID: From: Brigitte Fires To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by msb.ernest-doss.org id n6IJkMEV024497 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 19:46:23 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 15:45:21 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 19:46:23 -0000 I grew up in the Ann Arbor, MI church but haven't attended regularly sine high school (7 years ago!) brigitte On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 9:23 PM, Valerie White wrote: > I've had twenty seven responses to my request for the names of UU > congregations that folks attend . . .  could the rest of y'all please > also respond . . . I think this information about how many UU > churches have polys in their pews is important for us to have in > convincing ministers, DRE's and association leaders that UUPA's > ministry is important. From catelynn@gmail.com Sat Jul 18 16:06:56 2009 Received: from mail-bw0-f222.google.com (mail-bw0-f222.google.com [209.85.218.222]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6IK6tlh025889 for ; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 16:06:55 -0400 Received: by bwz22 with SMTP id 22so1322647bwz.26 for ; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 13:06:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.152.3 with SMTP id t3mr246116hbb.19.1247947613734; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 13:06:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20090717212015.04ee9008@valeriewhite.org> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20090717212015.04ee9008@valeriewhite.org> Message-ID: <45c0b2cd0907181306j1a0c35do1e7296cfbf675e0a@mail.gmail.com> From: Catelynn To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by msb.ernest-doss.org id n6IK6tlh025889 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 20:06:56 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 16:06:53 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 20:06:56 -0000 Mary Catelynn Cunningham - Community Church of New York On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 9:23 PM, Valerie White wrote: > I've had twenty seven responses to my request for the names of UU > congregations that folks attend . . .  could the rest of y'all please > also respond . . . I think this information about how many UU > churches have polys in their pews is important for us to have in > convincing ministers, DRE's and association leaders that UUPA's > ministry is important. > > Just send me a one-liner with the name and town and state of the > congregation where you sometimes go to church (you don't have to be a member). > > Valerie > > PS  Home > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > From kzoegraham@gmail.com Sat Jul 18 16:59:40 2009 Received: from mail-bw0-f222.google.com (mail-bw0-f222.google.com [209.85.218.222]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6IKxeda029085 for ; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 16:59:40 -0400 Received: by bwz22 with SMTP id 22so1336874bwz.26 for ; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 13:59:39 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.136.202 with SMTP id i10mr226836hbi.151.1247950778949; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 13:59:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <2aace3f40907181359g4fa33b49ucbb2361d2bbca736@mail.gmail.com> From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?K=2E_Zo=EB_Graham?= To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: [UUPoly-L] Request for Name of UU Congregation I attend X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 20:59:41 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 15:59:38 -0500 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 20:59:41 -0000 I recently joined Unity Temple Unitarian Congregation in Oak Park, IL. I would love to know if there are other polymorous folk in the congregation. -Kate Graham On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 11:00 AM, wrote: > Send UUPoly-L mailing list submissions to > uupoly-l@uupa.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > uupoly-l-request@uupa.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > uupoly-l-owner@uupa.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of UUPoly-L digest..." > > Valerie White wrote: > > I've had twenty seven responses to my request for the names of UU > > congregations that folks attend . . . could the rest of y'all please > > also respond . . . I think this information about how many UU > > churches have polys in their pews is important for us to have in > > convincing ministers, DRE's and association leaders that UUPA's > > ministry is important. > > > > Just send me a one-liner with the name and town and state of the > > congregation where you sometimes go to church (you don't have to be a > member). > > > > Valerie > -- Some people juggle geese. -Wash, Firefly From sophygurl@yahoo.com Sat Jul 18 18:19:16 2009 Received: from web50305.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web50305.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.38.59]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n6IMJChU001265 for ; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 18:19:12 -0400 Received: (qmail 8508 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Jul 2009 22:18:39 -0000 Message-ID: <428158.8481.qm@web50305.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 7kCgPBUVM1nfixfw0yTFdfpGnFb7Ad6FuHb0PjEktkvASHvO53A70.xzWQgsZWmsLJQTc1hnvFJRkcseaZ4hiQMWT6OyCJZGtKFY09rEUWyq8Jt4vaAgnpn_1gCd0L14HH4YFQ8SSfzuaDMk9BSczbBcS5vlPosAW_4AkRxfWAf3Lfra4Oq1zplERfEIgbJGIAmVgT.u6e9mzrLu60dTH2Q90WfI1eVdJyfDX7XFvvWEavXxZKEF2FVC7nQq7vjfFf1SO.ALKCyTwYpbEbMo1lY.sH1PQoDuEFkIStk3x__NhJauMO0kcrPRogGKeMn6A0uVw7ccgksgDwQ- Received: from [97.87.56.208] by web50305.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 15:18:38 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 From: Rosemary Amico To: uupoly-l@uupa.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by msb.ernest-doss.org id n6IMJChU001265 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 22:19:16 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 15:18:38 -0700 (PDT) X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 22:19:16 -0000 I'm a member of the online congregation the Church of the Larger Fellowship. I live in Madison, WI and used to go to First Unitarian Universalist Society here in Madison, but haven't been in many years. I don't get out much due to chronic illness, but I've been trying to go more often to James Reeb Unitarian Universalist Congregation but so far have only made it once. -Rosemary http://sophy.livejournal.com/ --- On Fri, 7/17/09, Valerie White wrote: > From: Valerie White > Subject: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far > To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > Date: Friday, July 17, 2009, 6:23 PM > I've had twenty seven responses to my > request for the names of UU > congregations that folks attend . . .  could the rest > of y'all please > also respond . . . I think this information about how many > UU > churches have polys in their pews is important for us to > have in > convincing ministers, DRE's and association leaders that > UUPA's > ministry is important. > > Just send me a one-liner with the name and town and state > of the > congregation where you sometimes go to church (you don't > have to be a member). > > Valerie > > PS  Home > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal > about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > From nathanflorida888@yahoo.com Sat Jul 18 19:43:15 2009 Received: from n61.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com (n61.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com [98.136.44.37]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n6INg4SF006856 for ; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 19:43:11 -0400 Received: from [69.147.84.144] by n61.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Jul 2009 23:42:02 -0000 Received: from [69.147.84.123] by t6.bullet.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Jul 2009 23:42:02 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp209.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Jul 2009 23:42:02 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 121664.23409.bm@omp209.mail.sp1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 78953 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Jul 2009 23:42:02 -0000 Message-ID: <909357.78075.qm@web45707.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: AbUZMnYVM1n4reaTgf0LSQwRBduGJ5g2xEan6DjyJP0aHrV6pcSsuqM01liaRbrgHt_BOI89eYKENA0NdkP93grWi4WrukHNQj1opLsHuh_SiNGWZJqQigcShAAuBdpgZBJPhrznMcQQ9gCOC9rGo2xeW1dW8PCS52Z05C46g1jmryOA54GX1OY10tt6Q956J4H8wyBHa7f4EuBscGPWthD3qxSRBW5VYMFjUvcp1jsDbW0Io083Kw0hjlcytJNMbHiZ4E0K_9GrArem.k7A9Qh7ft_2L3su1zeGg2ZNkaCe9zl.e3_NdmebRvsTjSCX Received: from [76.29.157.79] by web45707.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 16:42:01 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1358.22 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 References: <7.0.1.0.2.20090717212015.04ee9008@valeriewhite.org> <4A6165E7.9020609@dreamersparadise.com> From: nathanflorida888 To: uupoly-l@uupa.org In-Reply-To: <4A6165E7.9020609@dreamersparadise.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 23:43:15 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 16:42:01 -0700 (PDT) X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 23:43:15 -0000 I am a member of UU Fellowship of Marion County, Summerfield, FL. =A0 As fa= r as I know, only I am poly.=A0 It's never discussed.=0ANathan=0A=0A=0A=0A= =0A________________________________=0AFrom: Beej =0ATo: uupoly-l@uupa.org=0ASent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 2:04:23 AM= =0ASubject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far=0A=0AUUCLV Las Vegas, NV=0A=0ATh= ere are at least two poly families that I know of here including our own.= =0A=0AB-J=0A=0AValerie White wrote:=0A> I've had twenty seven responses to = my request for the names of UU =0A> congregations that folks attend . . .= =A0 could the rest of y'all please =0A> also respond . . . I think this inf= ormation about how many UU =0A> churches have polys in their pews is import= ant for us to have in =0A> convincing ministers, DRE's and association lead= ers that UUPA's =0A> ministry is important.=0A>=0A> Just send me a one-line= r with the name and town and state of the =0A> congregation where you somet= imes go to church (you don't have to be a member).=0A>=0A> Valerie=0A>=0A> = PS=A0 Home=0A>=0A> _______________________________________________=0A> The = UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives.=0A> Please keep that in mind whe= n deciding how much to reveal about yourself.=0A> UUPoly-L mailing list=0A>= UUPoly-L@uupa.org=0A> http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l=0A>=0A= >=A0 =0A_______________________________________________=0AThe UUPoly-L mail= ing list has public archives.=0APlease keep that in mind when deciding how = much to reveal about yourself.=0AUUPoly-L mailing list=0AUUPoly-L@uupa.org= =0Ahttp://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l=0A=0A=0A=0A From greystone.house@pacbell.net Sat Jul 18 20:28:24 2009 Received: from n23.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (n23.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.162]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n6J0RFuj010704 for ; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 20:28:21 -0400 Received: from [68.142.194.244] by n23.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Jul 2009 00:27:13 -0000 Received: from [68.142.201.243] by t2.bullet.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Jul 2009 00:27:13 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp404.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Jul 2009 00:27:13 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 28073.95749.bm@omp404.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 55970 invoked from network); 19 Jul 2009 00:27:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO EMILYADMINPC) (greystone.house@75.18.229.194 with login) by smtp108.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 19 Jul 2009 00:27:12 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: htgVbKwVM1nyPUq48vYPpaIt2Go8WPcBB9AEGUYPzv.bnipfn55UjmuPOGcEIgOvDiLE9J1Ggtvo4E_NiFc4PN40TpmprQnlTUGh_8bP82qaqjOCsipzDuwzkFJsAedaaoKb9DR3BFiRZNyHim7JLOA1H_LnaU.tcMtqkOPlx1PA7mfzfPWFuqbekUcp0yzqPKD2aVks5DePjXHxKUmbULTAcyzRKHxh6Y5HEOr24kB2rw1DPDDPHe9RaTHUYgEJ0Enqt0BJfGawWsth33kKN85akjfQbFx6vWzQ3Eri.VA0rJuHL6Cs7mmLYF8oano- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <8F49D725A0A1437B836FE8006F4F4E1E@EMILYADMINPC> From: "Emily M.-R. B." To: References: <7.0.1.0.2.20090717212015.04ee9008@valeriewhite.org> <4A6165E7.9020609@dreamersparadise.com> In-Reply-To: <4A6165E7.9020609@dreamersparadise.com> Organization: Greystone House MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 00:28:24 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 17:27:12 -0700 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 00:28:24 -0000 If I could attend, it would be either MDUUC, in Walnut Creek, CA or UUCiL, in Livermore, CA. Right now my time/ energy/ resources are allocated elsewhere - something I'm hoping to change, but haven't yet. And, in the "it's a small world" category: ***Hi, B-J!*** Any other ADF/ UUPA cross-over folk out there? - Emily ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beej" > UUCLV Las Vegas, NV From SRS0=QWo2CB=DM=dreamersparadise.com=dreams2fly@eigbox.net Sat Jul 18 22:00:44 2009 Received: from bosmailout08.eigbox.net (bosmailout08.eigbox.net [66.96.185.8]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6J1xYrj017625 for ; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 22:00:41 -0400 Received: from bosmailscan05.eigbox.net ([10.20.15.5]) by bosmailout08.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1MSLdZ-0000Wb-DF for uupoly-l@uupa.org; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 21:56:25 -0400 Received: from bosimpout01.eigbox.net ([10.20.55.1]) by bosmailscan05.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1MSLdZ-0001Uk-5d for uupoly-l@uupa.org; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 21:56:25 -0400 Received: from bosauthsmtp09.eigbox.net ([10.20.18.9]) by bosimpout01.eigbox.net with NO UCE id Hds21c0020BkY8i0000000; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 21:52:02 -0400 X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.20.18.9 X-EN-IMPSID: Hds21c0020BkY8i0000000 Received: from ip68-104-112-177.lv.lv.cox.net ([68.104.112.177] helo=[192.168.2.4]) by bosauthsmtp09.eigbox.net with esmtpa (Exim) id 1MSLdY-0003aY-Tw for uupoly-l@uupa.org; Sat, 18 Jul 2009 21:56:25 -0400 Message-ID: <4A627DBF.1020805@dreamersparadise.com> From: Beej User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: uupoly-l@uupa.org References: <7.0.1.0.2.20090717212015.04ee9008@valeriewhite.org> <4A6165E7.9020609@dreamersparadise.com> <8F49D725A0A1437B836FE8006F4F4E1E@EMILYADMINPC> In-Reply-To: <8F49D725A0A1437B836FE8006F4F4E1E@EMILYADMINPC> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-EN-UserInfo: 8a131033da06f49ab98e369948761a77:7512ede6bd9034211cc0fe6983cd099a X-EN-AuthUser: dreamer@dreamersparadise.com Sender: Beej X-EN-OrigIP: 68.104.112.177 X-EN-OrigHost: ip68-104-112-177.lv.lv.cox.net Subject: [UUPoly-L] Small world X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 02:00:44 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 18:58:23 -0700 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 02:00:44 -0000 ...after all. Hey, Emily. Fancy meeting you here. I must admit, now I'm curious how many cross-over folks we have, too. Beej Emily M.-R. B. wrote: > And, in the "it's a small world" category: ***Hi, B-J!*** > > Any other ADF/ UUPA cross-over folk out there? > > - Emily > > From WABaldwin@aol.com Sun Jul 19 02:28:44 2009 Received: from imo-d23.mx.aol.com (imo-d23.mx.aol.com [205.188.139.137]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6J6Sboi004034 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 02:28:37 -0400 Received: from imo-da04.mx.aol.com (imo-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.202]) by imo-d23.mx.aol.com (v107.10) with ESMTP id RELAYIN3-44a62bcd7284; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 02:27:35 -0400 Received: from WABaldwin@aol.com by imo-da04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id g.d56.2fc551f1 (37521) for ; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 02:26:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from your-iqrrujqvuc.aol.com (75-101-20-126.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net [75.101.20.126]) by cia-ma08.mx.aol.com (v124.15) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMA086-92914a62bcb21c7; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 02:26:59 -0400 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 To: uupoly-l@uupa.org From: Bill Baldwin In-Reply-To: <503112.45685.qm@web45212.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20090717212015.04ee9008@valeriewhite.org> <503112.45685.qm@web45212.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-AOL-IP: 205.188.169.202 Message-ID: X-Spam-Flag: NO Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 06:28:44 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 23:26:56 -0700 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 06:28:44 -0000 First Unitarian Church of San Jose, CA. I'm "out" -- two of us participated in a service about polyamory last December. Bill B. >From: Valerie White >Subject: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far >To: uupoly-l@uupa.org >Date: Friday, July 17, 2009, 9:23 PM > > >I've had twenty seven responses to my request for the names of UU >congregations that folks attend . . . could the rest of y'all please >also respond . . . I think this information about how many UU >churches have polys in their pews is important for us to have in >convincing ministers, DRE's and association leaders that UUPA's >ministry is important. > >Just send me a one-liner with the name and town and state of the >congregation where you sometimes go to church (you don't have to be a member). > >Valerie > >PS Home > >_______________________________________________ >The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. >Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. >UUPoly-L mailing list >UUPoly-L@uupa.org >http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > > > > >_______________________________________________ >The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. >Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. >UUPoly-L mailing list >UUPoly-L@uupa.org >http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l From cyn@technomom.com Sun Jul 19 06:43:04 2009 Received: from QMTA08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net (qmta08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net [76.96.62.80]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6JAf5ur028779 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 06:42:11 -0400 Received: from OMTA01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.11]) by QMTA08.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id HmaE1c0010EZKEL58mgyrb; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 10:40:58 +0000 Received: from stoneyrows ([76.20.250.74]) by OMTA01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Hmgv1c0031d3dZ03Mmgvaz; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 10:40:58 +0000 From: "Cynthia Armistead" To: References: <7.0.1.0.2.20090717212015.04ee9008@valeriewhite.org> <4A6165E7.9020609@dreamersparadise.com> <8F49D725A0A1437B836FE8006F4F4E1E@EMILYADMINPC> <4A627DBF.1020805@dreamersparadise.com> In-Reply-To: <4A627DBF.1020805@dreamersparadise.com> Organization: Fireheart Foundry Message-ID: <004901ca085d$6ba8b640$42fa22c0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcoIFMwYwqgcbVM5TYilNfcJMIYw6QASAHrA Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Small world X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: cyn@technomom.com, uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 10:43:04 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 06:41:03 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 10:43:04 -0000 I'm another one :-) In fact, there has been some talk on the ADF GLBT list about starting a poly sig there. On the congregation question, we aren't attending one regularly at the moment, but have visited UUCA in Atlanta many times and keep meaning to go join. We're "out" anywhere we go, and I've never felt that would be an issues at UUCA. Sam and I met at UUCG in Lawrenceville (Atlanta suburb). Namaste, Cyn -----Original Message----- From: uupoly-l-bounces+cyn=technomom.com@uupa.org [mailto:uupoly-l-bounces+cyn=technomom.com@uupa.org] On Behalf Of Beej Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 9:58 PM To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Subject: [UUPoly-L] Small world ...after all. Hey, Emily. Fancy meeting you here. I must admit, now I'm curious how many cross-over folks we have, too. Beej Emily M.-R. B. wrote: > And, in the "it's a small world" category: ***Hi, B-J!*** > > Any other ADF/ UUPA cross-over folk out there? > > - Emily > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4257 (20090718) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. Email message - is OK Email message - is OK http://www.eset.com From valerie@valeriewhite.org Sun Jul 19 07:42:26 2009 Received: from cosmos.phy.tufts.edu (cosmos.phy.tufts.edu [130.64.83.16]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6JBeOJQ002721 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 07:41:30 -0400 Received: from p92-11.acedsl.com ([66.114.92.11]:2550 helo=VW.valeriewhite.org) by cosmos.phy.tufts.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MSUkf-0007y6-F3; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 07:40:21 -0400 Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.2.20090719073905.04f54260@valeriewhite.org> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 To: cyn@technomom.com, uupoly-l@uupa.org From: Valerie White In-Reply-To: <004901ca085d$6ba8b640$42fa22c0$@com> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20090717212015.04ee9008@valeriewhite.org> <4A6165E7.9020609@dreamersparadise.com> <8F49D725A0A1437B836FE8006F4F4E1E@EMILYADMINPC> <4A627DBF.1020805@dreamersparadise.com> <004901ca085d$6ba8b640$42fa22c0$@com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Small world X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 11:42:26 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 07:39:44 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 11:42:26 -0000 ADF? For the acronym clueless, what is it? Valerie From popefelix@gmail.com Sun Jul 19 11:27:37 2009 Received: from mail-bw0-f222.google.com (mail-bw0-f222.google.com [209.85.218.222]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6JFQJE4021454 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 11:26:23 -0400 Received: by bwz22 with SMTP id 22so1571509bwz.26 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 08:26:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.105.7 with SMTP id r7mr913059fao.8.1248017177728; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 08:26:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20090719073905.04f54260@valeriewhite.org> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20090717212015.04ee9008@valeriewhite.org> <4A6165E7.9020609@dreamersparadise.com> <8F49D725A0A1437B836FE8006F4F4E1E@EMILYADMINPC> <4A627DBF.1020805@dreamersparadise.com> <004901ca085d$6ba8b640$42fa22c0$@com> <7.0.1.0.2.20090719073905.04f54260@valeriewhite.org> Message-ID: From: Kit Peters To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by msb.ernest-doss.org id n6JFQJE4021454 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Small world X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 15:27:37 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 10:26:17 -0500 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 15:27:37 -0000 On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 06:39, Valerie White wrote: > > ADF?  For the acronym clueless, what is it? Unpronounceable! I kid. ADF: A'r nDrai'ocht Fe'in (note that my use of + is meant to imply that vowel with an accent, rather than the apostrophe [this isn't Klingon, after all]), "A Druid Fellowship (ADF) is an international fellowship devoted to creating a public tradition of Neopagan Druidry." For more information, see http://www.adf.org/ KP -- GPG public key fingerpint: 1A12 04B6 0C80 306A B292 14FD 2C7A 1037 F666 46A7 From SRS0=QWo2CB=DM=dreamersparadise.com=dreams2fly@eigbox.net Sun Jul 19 11:39:20 2009 Received: from bosmailout10.eigbox.net (bosmailout10.eigbox.net [66.96.186.10]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6JFbYhS023013 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 11:38:40 -0400 Received: from bosmailscan06.eigbox.net ([10.20.15.6]) by bosmailout10.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1MSYPA-0003yK-W4 for uupoly-l@uupa.org; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 11:34:25 -0400 Received: from bosimpout01.eigbox.net ([10.20.55.1]) by bosmailscan06.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1MSYPA-0006ie-Ml for uupoly-l@uupa.org; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 11:34:24 -0400 Received: from bosauthsmtp04.eigbox.net ([10.20.18.4]) by bosimpout01.eigbox.net with NO UCE id HrVl1c00E05GATN0000000; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 11:29:45 -0400 X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.20.18.4 X-EN-IMPSID: HrVl1c00E05GATN0000000 Received: from ip68-104-112-177.lv.lv.cox.net ([68.104.112.177] helo=[192.168.2.4]) by bosauthsmtp04.eigbox.net with esmtpa (Exim) id 1MSYOz-0006cY-1q for uupoly-l@uupa.org; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 11:34:13 -0400 Message-ID: <4A633D6B.9000204@dreamersparadise.com> From: Beej User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: uupoly-l@uupa.org References: <7.0.1.0.2.20090717212015.04ee9008@valeriewhite.org> <4A6165E7.9020609@dreamersparadise.com> <8F49D725A0A1437B836FE8006F4F4E1E@EMILYADMINPC> <4A627DBF.1020805@dreamersparadise.com> <004901ca085d$6ba8b640$42fa22c0$@com> <7.0.1.0.2.20090719073905.04f54260@valeriewhite.org> In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20090719073905.04f54260@valeriewhite.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-EN-UserInfo: 8a131033da06f49ab98e369948761a77:7512ede6bd9034211cc0fe6983cd099a X-EN-AuthUser: dreamer@dreamersparadise.com Sender: Beej X-EN-OrigIP: 68.104.112.177 X-EN-OrigHost: ip68-104-112-177.lv.lv.cox.net Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Small world X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 15:39:20 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 08:36:11 -0700 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 15:39:20 -0000 Ar nDraiocht Fein: A Druid Fellowship. It's a pagan organization whose views and policies are very much compatible with the UU. Beej Valerie White wrote: > ADF? For the acronym clueless, what is it? > > Valerie > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > > From Malanf@aol.com Sun Jul 19 12:40:33 2009 Received: from imo-d20.mx.aol.com (imo-d20.mx.aol.com [205.188.139.136]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6JGeRQ3030484 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 12:40:27 -0400 Received: from imo-ma03.mx.aol.com (imo-ma03.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.138]) by imo-d20.mx.aol.com (v107.10) with ESMTP id RELAYIN3-44a634c2e348; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 12:39:10 -0400 Received: from Malanf@aol.com by imo-ma03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id g.c35.5febc6df (32915) for ; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 12:39:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Malanf@aol.com Message-ID: To: uupoly-l@uupa.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.1 sub 5006 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-AOL-IP: 64.12.78.138 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: [UUPoly-L] Three GAY Guys X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 16:40:34 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 12:39:07 EDT X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 16:40:34 -0000 I have been reading the UUPoly-L digest for some time and have NOT read of any GAY polyamory. I define this as THREE GUYS living together and all being involved with one another. Other than what I have submitted. Even in the _UUPA_ (http://www.uupa.org/) stuff there is nothing about GAY polyamory. We, my BF and I have had other Guys staying with us in the past and are going to have another wonderful Guy move in and become our third August 1. I know that three somes are somewhat common in the Gay culture but not Gay Polyamory. HOWEVER does any one know of any references to TURE GAY Polyamory???? Ideas?? Thanks Mark **************Snoop, Lil Wayne, Lady GaGa -- land the tix you need for this summer's biggest tours. Tourtracker.com (http://www.tourtracker.com/?ncid=emlcntusmusi00000007) From petebenson@starpower.net Sun Jul 19 12:44:44 2009 Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6JGhZf4031401 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 12:44:41 -0400 Received: from mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.28]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 19 Jul 2009 12:43:35 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.6-GA) with ESMTP id KZT47072; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 12:43:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Auth-ID: petebenson Received: from 75-170-93-30.eugn.qwest.net (HELO Synapse2) ([75.170.93.30]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 19 Jul 2009 12:43:17 -0400 Message-ID: <57C5D48818B9497F84442BCB32D0549F@Synapse2> From: "Pete Benson" To: References: <373623.54438.qm@web110402.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <373623.54438.qm@web110402.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr08.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Book List? X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 16:44:44 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 09:42:52 -0700 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 16:44:44 -0000 If you're looking for a book on how to make polyamory work, or work better for you, you might find my book useful: _The Polyamory Handbook: A User's Guide_, www.polyamoryhandbook.com. Pete Benson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rhiana Graves" To: Sent: 8 July 2009 9:39 AM Subject: [UUPoly-L] Book List? Can anyone recommend any books, fiction or non-fiction about Poly Families or Poly couples? I can't find anything in the library... _______________________________________________ The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. 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Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.387 / Virus Database: 270.13.12/2234 - Release Date: 07/12/09 17:56:00 From desmondravenstone@yahoo.com Sun Jul 19 13:03:19 2009 Received: from web50507.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web50507.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.38.83]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n6JH2Z3D002365 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 13:02:35 -0400 Received: (qmail 13840 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Jul 2009 17:02:35 -0000 Message-ID: <496324.13017.qm@web50507.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 6XZJOfgVM1mAkf30WZvno8XQQxf50Zti8ZbvVRpDK6o9ICgfvBtAXUD0.JeKg1IXRNX7emYYm.rC_PH3bChNMCrTsHFF0l2gTB68eKBhGO0.xuptOVRFr5gfCcCS.ZqBL6_SXuRmvIbRBmovn_S6aPerp2KGCFz5EXMG3hOuzEIU9gk6JDKZ1XCJmByPpfVZFOPPX799WXzEEYu1AKhB5_xRKpYHY6sG9PJ5y7IDCsqGOjg7.EkNjgUwH6BVf9KiOPqctVGhr3kJ6HP4v55kjCTAirpVnATp0Yoqrrq6ojq.DRL98OAHQQrlqWndkbXnkEErWxP4Ev2DzkynYwM5nkdFvSZw_bgw Received: from [173.124.154.84] by web50507.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 10:02:35 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 From: desmondravenstone@yahoo.com To: uupoly-l@uupa.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by msb.ernest-doss.org id n6JH2Z3D002365 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Three GAY Guys X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: desmondravenstone@yahoo.com, uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 17:03:19 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 10:02:35 -0700 (PDT) X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 17:03:19 -0000 --- On Sun, 7/19/09, Malanf@aol.com wrote: > I have been reading the UUPoly-L digest for some time and have  NOT read of any GAY polyamory. I define this as THREE GUYS living together and all being involved with one another. Well, polyamory need not be limited to three people, nor to full triads where everyone is involved with everyone else.  There are "V" and "Z" and "W" arrangements, along with open relationships etc. I also recall all-female poly households being mentioned on this list. Here's a link to an online blog post, with news clips, on gay poly: http://polyinthemedia.blogspot.com/2009/07/gay-poly-roundup.html Desmond Ravenstone "Do not do unto others as you expect they should do unto you. Their tastes may not be the same." -- George Bernard Shaw http://ravenstonesreflections.blogspot.com http://www.myspace.com/desmond_ravenstone From nathanflorida888@yahoo.com Sun Jul 19 13:43:30 2009 Received: from n26.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com (n26.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.221]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n6JHgKhB006921 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 13:43:26 -0400 Received: from [68.142.200.221] by n26.bullet.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Jul 2009 17:42:19 -0000 Received: from [68.142.201.66] by t9.bullet.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Jul 2009 17:42:19 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp418.mail.mud.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 19 Jul 2009 17:42:19 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 698770.29995.bm@omp418.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 20476 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Jul 2009 17:42:19 -0000 Message-ID: <187243.19906.qm@web45709.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 0S2FQwkVM1moivLQU_IuGt7P5JyfjkJSvYshLncdVMZh_taLAh7uynatsH_WRZ5zHNk_X4OuYUI.dHJlCPNEFe5Am.tzoOJcNtnwS9euXoFwLYMXk2nwQ9kZJwOUdiPJuNYsTW.eV_Iv8rC3G4NXkFsvf8em_c13D_x_kx7aYhgVUd4ezBAq.3u9L0O6OCR3zmJLAJ8U_egAy3.eWv3DpCSZKv.xaN.oBGlh4Dw_f1a9ZiUxnk7RNFunBPcoTsvO8xM.GnaBZ33pZzjYiNxpubmWQ340NNO97w.aWkFcQRyYacRHrhKZLnDYh7WM6aIQduC36t5n2p3pAg-- Received: from [76.29.157.79] by web45709.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 10:42:18 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1358.22 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 References: <496324.13017.qm@web50507.mail.re2.yahoo.com> From: nathanflorida888 To: uupoly-l@uupa.org In-Reply-To: <496324.13017.qm@web50507.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Three GAY Guys X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 17:43:31 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 10:42:18 -0700 (PDT) X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 17:43:31 -0000 Hi!=A0 I am a trangender gay men looking for anything GLBT and poly.=A0 I h= ave been searching almost daily for a long=A0time now=A0for GLBT Poly group= s, websites. people, etc.=A0 Whatever exists seems=A0hard to locate, and I = think this is an=A0niche that needs to grow, both on the web and in real li= fe.=A0 I've been to Poly groups, but have encountered mostly straight coupl= es and bi women, but not gay or bi men.=A0 Here are a few links:=0A=0A2 Yah= oo Groups:=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 LGBT-Poly=0A=A0=0A=A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0= =A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 nyc-glbt-poly=A0=A0= =A0=A0=A0=A0 (You don't have to live in NYC to join the list.=A0 They=A0hol= d activities in NYC.)=0A=0A=A0=0A=0A--- On Sun, 7/19/09, Malanf@aol.com wrote:=0A=0A> I have been reading the UUPoly-L digest for som= e time and have=A0 NOT read of any GAY polyamory. I define this as THREE GU= YS living together and=A0all being involved with one another.=0A=0AWell, po= lyamory need not be limited to three people, nor to full triads where every= one is involved with everyone else.=A0 There are "V" and "Z" and "W" arrang= ements, along with open relationships etc.=0A=0AI also recall all-female po= ly households being mentioned on this list.=0A=0AHere's a link to an online= blog post, with news clips, on gay poly:=0Ahttp://polyinthemedia.blogspot.= com/2009/07/gay-poly-roundup.html=0A=0A=0ADesmond Ravenstone=0A=0A"Do not d= o unto others as you expect they should do unto you. Their tastes may not b= e the same." -- George Bernard Shaw=0A=0Ahttp://ravenstonesreflections.blog= spot.com=0Ahttp://www.myspace.com/desmond_ravenstone=0A=0A=0A=A0 =A0 =A0 = =0A=0A_______________________________________________=0AThe UUPoly-L mailin= g list has public archives.=0APlease keep that in mind when deciding how mu= ch to reveal about yourself.=0AUUPoly-L mailing list=0AUUPoly-L@uupa.org=0A= http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l=0A=0AOne other website:=A0=A0= gaypoly.weebly.com=0A=0AI can send you more as I find them.=0A=0ANathan=0A= Florida=0A=0A________________________________=0A=0AFrom: "desmondravenstone= @yahoo.com" =0ATo: uupoly-l@uupa.org=0ASent: S= unday, July 19, 2009 1:02:35 PM=0ASubject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Three GAY Guys=0A= =0A=0A=0A From polydad8@yahoo.com Sun Jul 19 15:17:40 2009 Received: from web32505.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web32505.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.207.215]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n6JJGWOG014494 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 15:17:38 -0400 Received: (qmail 86641 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Jul 2009 19:16:28 -0000 Message-ID: <609549.86401.qm@web32505.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: l1fZh94VM1kPEgFPfrYfW_MRgWcq86NP_qLeCQa_FrA4jXQFT5hTLS.f2tTISFNLzI_.oK2_KC.TxQ92ZNTdHAeyi0pvTlURR3p_P8yea.UgpyVA8uAkiwnPi3zsley0g6DQygT.PME7YFCCKBJCGR9TNTOh2EibXoN7ErjzyLCTo4Ff8L46mJ9t_xwdIV7_q_yVff6mkCRwsqoWnUigheD.hGzC1XJD79PNHrFvqx0UTAmzwXGYY54JOFIDY7gk1Wr563VJo0HDGkYdjMUXv.1DhBG8SpNW.UbMyAHXT.Cwnr6kjOmYRGRvMOptyG0tvFc- Received: from [207.55.4.42] by web32505.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 12:16:28 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.0.18 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 From: Ess Jay To: uupoly-l@uupa.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Congregations X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 19:17:40 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 12:16:28 -0700 (PDT) X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 19:17:40 -0000 I go to the Unitarian Universalist Fellowship of Corvallis, in Corvallis, Oregon. best, Joel Spector. Who still isn't an *official* member here, and won't be until someone works over the membership process until it becomes understandable to me. From onnen.bach@yahoo.com Sun Jul 19 16:11:43 2009 Received: from web38205.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web38205.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.124.148]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n6JKAYvr017978 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 16:11:40 -0400 Received: (qmail 67239 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Jul 2009 20:10:30 -0000 Message-ID: <475845.49535.qm@web38205.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: ztPWJOIVM1nWXihGMwnOWDG9TGQizyUqx6_QGkiV9DFRL5zD4G7J88kNESeU00PAaH0ub5.G0GXKzy3CNts4Pa8SZpKobWJrFGAmtF0qmnBsSkgx61eGXNVJtgjWzIhRnNbmvqKnVJuJYMkEYhpacR.Iz3C4fAISMidrvqM9gMYV4X1At_ueEOXmu7tXCReuJu8s0zzNVJptD3Juo5QXb3ZsmKnXkG50pQqkVevpWbhPAAT70i3fzMI0kS9Dfn9Ppi.rp8Qzr0F4vS5WC66ry_bYpEMwWPGQ Received: from [216.43.209.9] by web38205.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 13:10:30 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1358.22 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 From: Onnen merch Dinogad Chwith To: uupoly-l@uupa.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 20:11:43 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 13:10:30 -0700 (PDT) X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 20:11:43 -0000 We are members of Unitarian Universalist Society of Geneva (Geneva, Illinois, Chicago suburbs), but haven't attended in a few months. When talking to the associate minister, I was told they are supportive, there were other poly families in the congregation, but they were not "out". This tells me that not only is the ministerial staff supportive, but respectful as well. Melinda From airsafe1@comcast.net Sun Jul 19 19:45:29 2009 Received: from QMTA10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.17]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6JNiMgC031640 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 19:45:28 -0400 Received: from OMTA11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.36]) by QMTA10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id HyoR1c0040mlR8UAAzkHEx; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 23:44:17 +0000 Received: from DaveVostro1400 ([76.29.163.51]) by OMTA11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id HzkG1c00816qme48XzkGDW; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 23:44:17 +0000 From: "David Hall" To: References: <5104638.3702.1248031150641.JavaMail.root@n01> Message-ID: <249E8B804D7642F8A93E4A00E8D7F413@DaveVostro1400> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <5104638.3702.1248031150641.JavaMail.root@n01> Thread-Index: AcoIpcrjPUXKbQbkTrShDQBGwzYKrgAJCmQA X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Congregations X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 23:45:30 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 16:44:09 -0700 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 23:45:30 -0000 What about membership do you not understand? Fill out a form, donate $20/year or request a waiver, and you are a member of UUPA. That gets you a cool button. The donation goes to pay for our outreach at GA and in UUWorld. No need to donate or be a member to be a part of this list, a free service from a member who owns a hosting site. Dave Hall Treasurer UUPA -----Original Message----- From: uupoly-l-bounces+airsafe1=comcast.net@uupa.org [mailto:uupoly-l-bounces+airsafe1=comcast.net@uupa.org] On Behalf Of Ess Jay Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 12:16 PM To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Congregations I go to the Unitarian Universalist Fellowship of Corvallis, in Corvallis, Oregon. best, Joel Spector. Who still isn't an *official* member here, and won't be until someone works over the membership process until it becomes understandable to me. _______________________________________________ The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. UUPoly-L mailing list UUPoly-L@uupa.org http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l From desmondravenstone@yahoo.com Sun Jul 19 20:12:11 2009 Received: from web50501.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web50501.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.38.77]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n6K0BpE1001881 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 20:11:51 -0400 Received: (qmail 67211 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Jul 2009 00:11:49 -0000 Message-ID: <960087.66952.qm@web50501.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: BQIBO5UVM1m4_P6dZ5pjcN5eYYCMtpk7V2NxpHEmmKPkcQS0ICYOQrlyRucwUc9sJSMO1c7PuWxSsxqcPdXhgWi3L3AEx1TwtY.ZR8NN5gszaHFy9famCA.hSd_9JkamAVVUKa5ZzftmH6y2TPlDfZexN7IfJpY82Sv0awqzZFPXvPqWiREsy2_kjvkZe9wi4295rDomaWKvwd0QaCNfsN7REjaYIWVnvCksLY0N6z7eywOxGdLZG9hc4NZWxXKuvsQpdmgKlXQrKitgAd7AxCRclE4aFTiktPSyMX98lSD6pPt7lXzZrvQybQwU7bmIeidS Received: from [173.124.185.61] by web50501.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 17:11:48 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 From: Desmond Ravenstone To: uupoly-l@uupa.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by msb.ernest-doss.org id n6K0BpE1001881 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Congregations X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 00:12:12 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 17:11:48 -0700 (PDT) X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 00:12:12 -0000 Joel, perhaps you mean congregational membership, but I don't want to assume... Desmond Ravenstone "Do not do unto others as you expect they should do unto you. Their tastes may not be the same." -- George Bernard Shaw http://ravenstonesreflections.blogspot.com http://www.myspace.com/desmond_ravenstone --- On Sun, 7/19/09, David Hall wrote: > From: David Hall > Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Congregations > To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > Date: Sunday, July 19, 2009, 7:44 PM > What about membership do you not > understand? Fill out a form, donate > $20/year or request a waiver, and you are a member of UUPA. > That gets you a > cool button. > > The donation goes to pay for our outreach at GA and in > UUWorld. No need to > donate or be a member to be a part of this list, a free > service from a > member who owns a hosting site. > > Dave Hall > Treasurer UUPA > > -----Original Message----- > From: uupoly-l-bounces+airsafe1=comcast.net@uupa.org > [mailto:uupoly-l-bounces+airsafe1=comcast.net@uupa.org] > On Behalf Of Ess Jay > Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 12:16 PM > To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Congregations > > > I go to the Unitarian Universalist Fellowship of Corvallis, > in Corvallis, > Oregon.  > > best, > > Joel Spector.  Who still isn't an *official* member > here, and won't be until > someone works over the membership process until it becomes > understandable to > me. > > > >       > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal > about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal > about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > From mknd17@hotmail.com Sun Jul 19 20:44:02 2009 Received: from snt0-omc2-s11.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc2-s11.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.86]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6K0gp2H004753 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 20:43:58 -0400 Received: from SNT102-W59 ([65.55.90.72]) by snt0-omc2-s11.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 19 Jul 2009 17:42:30 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [76.127.51.114] From: Timothy McKee To: Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <960087.66952.qm@web50501.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <960087.66952.qm@web50501.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jul 2009 00:42:30.0602 (UTC) FILETIME=[F68C3AA0:01CA08D2] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Congregations X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 00:44:02 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 20:42:30 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 00:44:02 -0000 I also found the postings a couple of months ago about joining uupa to be r= ather confusing=2C particularly for those with some concern about security = and privacy. I remember reading a street address and something about destr= oying envelopes. =20 I identify as more asexual than as poly so membership really does not appea= l to me that much. =20 Tim =20 > Date: Sun=2C 19 Jul 2009 17:11:48 -0700 > From: desmondravenstone@yahoo.com > To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Congregations >=20 >=20 > Joel=2C perhaps you mean congregational membership=2C but I don't want to= assume...=20 >=20 > Desmond Ravenstone >=20 >= From JasmineGld@aol.com Sun Jul 19 21:17:54 2009 Received: from imr-m06.mx.aol.com (imr-m06.mx.aol.com [64.12.138.200]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6K1HqMa007869 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 21:17:52 -0400 Received: from imo-da03.mx.aol.com (imo-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.201]) by imr-m06.mx.aol.com (v107.10) with ESMTP id RELAYIN1-24a63c55a128; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 21:16:10 -0400 Received: from JasmineGld@aol.com by imo-da03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id g.c0b.5fc12d5f (37133) for ; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 21:16:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from smtprly-dd02.mx.aol.com (smtprly-dd02.mx.aol.com [205.188.84.130]) by cia-ma02.mx.aol.com (v124.15) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMA027-d3ed4a63c57529c; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 21:16:41 -0400 Received: from webmail-dx20 (webmail-dx20.sim.aol.com [205.188.104.94]) by smtprly-dd02.mx.aol.com (v124.15) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYDD021-d3ed4a63c57529c; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 21:16:37 -0400 To: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI X-AOL-IP: 205.188.169.201 X-MB-Message-Type: User MIME-Version: 1.0 From: jasminegld@aol.com X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 43792-STANDARD Received: from 71.97.88.65 by webmail-dx20.sysops.aol.com (205.188.104.94) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sun, 19 Jul 2009 21:16:37 -0400 Message-Id: <8CBD6EEDD4B4B07-17D4-5C12@webmail-dx20.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag: NO Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: [UUPoly-L] UUPA membership X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 01:17:54 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 21:16:37 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 01:17:54 -0000 Membership in UUPA is open to anyone who supports UUPA's mission and affirms the UUA principles and purposes, without regard to one's?sexual orientation. In response to recent posts: * Three men in a relationship with each other are welcome * An unpartnered?asexual person or any?unpartnered?person?is welcome * An asexual person in a relationship is welcome, whether the relationship is polyamorous or monogamous, without regard to sexual activity or lack thereof A person does NOT have to identify as poly or participate in a polyamorous relationship to join UUPA. They simply need to support UUPA's mission and affirm?the UUA principles and purposes. I wonder if the lack of gay men posting on UUPoly is related to a couple of factors. One, can gay men find more tolerance of/support for non-monogamous relationships among the gay community than hetero people can find among the hetero community? And two, is it?uncomfortable to be?among the very few gay posters on UUPoly? Jasmine From cyn@technomom.com Sun Jul 19 21:26:15 2009 Received: from QMTA04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.40]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6K1P5rP008991 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 21:26:12 -0400 Received: from OMTA07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.59]) by QMTA04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id J0lt1c0091GXsucA41R0oa; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 01:25:00 +0000 Received: from stoneyrows ([76.20.250.74]) by OMTA07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id J1Qq1c0011d3dZ08T1Quwh; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 01:25:00 +0000 From: "Cynthia Armistead" To: References: <7.0.1.0.2.20090717212015.04ee9008@valeriewhite.org> <4A6165E7.9020609@dreamersparadise.com> <8F49D725A0A1437B836FE8006F4F4E1E@EMILYADMINPC> <4A627DBF.1020805@dreamersparadise.com> <004901ca085d$6ba8b640$42fa22c0$@com> <7.0.1.0.2.20090719073905.04f54260@valeriewhite.org> In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20090719073905.04f54260@valeriewhite.org> Organization: Fireheart Foundry Message-ID: <001901ca08d8$ebf4af40$c3de0dc0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcoIZbS1EjwgR2NQTZWGuHkR+ifHvgAcu6mA Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Small world X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: cyn@technomom.com, uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 01:26:15 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 21:24:59 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 01:26:15 -0000 Ar nDraiocht Fein - see http://adf.org/ :-) Namaste, Cyn -----Original Message----- From: Valerie White [mailto:valerie@valeriewhite.org] Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 7:40 AM To: cyn@technomom.com; uupoly-l@uupa.org Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Small world ADF? For the acronym clueless, what is it? Valerie __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4259 (20090719) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. Email message - is OK Email message - is OK http://www.eset.com From SRS0=y5ITx9=DN=dreamersparadise.com=dreams2fly@eigbox.net Sun Jul 19 21:40:39 2009 Received: from bosmailout07.eigbox.net (bosmailout07.eigbox.net [66.96.185.7]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6K1dVjt012090 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 21:40:37 -0400 Received: from bosmailscan04.eigbox.net ([10.20.15.4]) by bosmailout07.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1MShng-0007Ox-9B for uupoly-l@uupa.org; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 21:36:20 -0400 Received: from bosimpout01.eigbox.net ([10.20.55.1]) by bosmailscan04.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1MShng-0006eP-2A for uupoly-l@uupa.org; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 21:36:20 -0400 Received: from bosauthsmtp07.eigbox.net ([10.20.18.7]) by bosimpout01.eigbox.net with NO UCE id J1Xn1c002099BUA0000000; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 21:31:47 -0400 X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.20.18.7 X-EN-IMPSID: J1Xn1c002099BUA0000000 Received: from ip68-104-112-177.lv.lv.cox.net ([68.104.112.177] helo=[192.168.2.4]) by bosauthsmtp07.eigbox.net with esmtpa (Exim) id 1MShnf-0007xq-Qp for uupoly-l@uupa.org; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 21:36:20 -0400 Message-ID: <4A63CA88.5080901@dreamersparadise.com> From: Beej User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (Windows/20090605) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: uupoly-l@uupa.org References: <8CBD6EEDD4B4B07-17D4-5C12@webmail-dx20.sysops.aol.com> In-Reply-To: <8CBD6EEDD4B4B07-17D4-5C12@webmail-dx20.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-EN-UserInfo: 8a131033da06f49ab98e369948761a77:7512ede6bd9034211cc0fe6983cd099a X-EN-AuthUser: dreamer@dreamersparadise.com Sender: Beej X-EN-OrigIP: 68.104.112.177 X-EN-OrigHost: ip68-104-112-177.lv.lv.cox.net Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] UUPA membership X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 01:40:39 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 18:38:16 -0700 X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 01:40:39 -0000 Or three, the dynamic in many poly families is complex to the point where sexual orientation is no longer the biggest issue faced. Beej jasminegld@aol.com wrote: > I wonder if the lack of gay men posting on UUPoly is related to a couple of factors. One, can gay men find more tolerance of/support for non-monogamous relationships among the gay community than hetero people can find among the hetero community? And two, is it?uncomfortable to be?among the very few gay posters on UUPoly? > > From wagnerian1@yahoo.com Sun Jul 19 21:49:16 2009 Received: from web57103.mail.re3.yahoo.com (web57103.mail.re3.yahoo.com [216.252.111.116]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n6K1m6cL013307 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 21:49:12 -0400 Received: (qmail 37327 invoked by uid 60001); 20 Jul 2009 01:48:03 -0000 Message-ID: <862570.36513.qm@web57103.mail.re3.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 02gqUWQVM1mjKoD4P2nm2ob3SkFppVHSKKbA35kr8dQpNSbkvAxEFLIcAb1Zx1wU54UJcpwJepeMDOcICNaP_KreXZ15T9vCmv6j2NyC9CMjVFTfD9utNsFWzKDvOL_wMqMhPzVT6r4U078ha_pTckTt.6NMsS_WeAziA5cufmiE3CeDapQxVfdfH0r4dNQg.fXeR0FK9FjN9qBt7DsM5z_RLWazk3yI8M_d6k3V9PaLLRZ.IiBi_70V.4_8n8NB_ZFENR1OXZ9dUwLzBtJA9K4YZ4xp1t1NpKblUUBFYC8c0Ko.9GpUVhYVbgXTLvC.1HhE Received: from [68.12.123.122] by web57103.mail.re3.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 18:48:03 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 From: Clinton Davis To: uupoly-l@uupa.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [UUPoly-L] Three here X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 01:49:16 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 18:48:03 -0700 (PDT) X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 01:49:16 -0000 I'm a gay man with two partners, P1 and I have been together for 6.5 yrs, and P2 joined us about 15 months ago. As of February we gave P2 a ring, though have yet to have a ceremony with our friends, who are all very, even fiercely supportive and found his inclusion into our household a natural progression in our relationship. I don't want to get into a whole novel about our life together, but when we are together, we're home. P1 and I never expected such a thing to happen, but it did and despite all the hard work, rough patches and the like, for us it is WORTH IT. --Clint, Oklahoma City From innerpatterns@msn.com Sun Jul 19 23:37:42 2009 Received: from blu0-omc2-s10.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s10.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.85]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6K3aYMl023306 for ; Sun, 19 Jul 2009 23:37:40 -0400 Received: from BLU128-W12 ([65.55.111.73]) by blu0-omc2-s10.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sun, 19 Jul 2009 20:36:13 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [75.73.232.87] From: M at Innerpatterns To: Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <909357.78075.qm@web45707.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20090717212015.04ee9008@valeriewhite.org> <4A6165E7.9020609@dreamersparadise.com> <909357.78075.qm@web45707.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Jul 2009 03:36:13.0704 (UTC) FILETIME=[3B336080:01CA08EB] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 03:37:42 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 22:36:13 -0500 X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 03:37:42 -0000 First Universalist Church=2C Minneapolis MN =20 > Date: Sat=2C 18 Jul 2009 16:42:01 -0700 > From: nathanflorida888@yahoo.com > To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far >=20 > I am a member of UU Fellowship of Marion County=2C Summerfield=2C FL. A= s far as I know=2C only I am poly. It's never discussed. > Nathan >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > ________________________________ > From: Beej > To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > Sent: Saturday=2C July 18=2C 2009 2:04:23 AM > Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far >=20 > UUCLV Las Vegas=2C NV >=20 > There are at least two poly families that I know of here including our ow= n. >=20 > B-J >=20 > Valerie White wrote: > > I've had twenty seven responses to my request for the names of UU=20 > > congregations that folks attend . . . could the rest of y'all please=20 > > also respond . . . I think this information about how many UU=20 > > churches have polys in their pews is important for us to have in=20 > > convincing ministers=2C DRE's and association leaders that UUPA's=20 > > ministry is important. > > > > Just send me a one-liner with the name and town and state of the=20 > > congregation where you sometimes go to church (you don't have to be a m= ember). > > > > Valerie > > > > PS Home > > > > _______________________________________________ > > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yoursel= f. > > UUPoly-L mailing list > > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > > > > =20 > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l _________________________________________________________________ NEW mobile Hotmail. 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Click here. http://windowslive.com/Mobile?ocid=3DTXT_TAGLM_WL_CS_MB_new_hotmail_072009= From petebenson@starpower.net Mon Jul 20 01:46:47 2009 Received: from smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.157.102]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6K5jc68032461 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 01:46:44 -0400 Received: from mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net ([207.172.157.22]) by smtp02.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 20 Jul 2009 01:45:36 -0400 Received: from smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.11]) by mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net (MOS 3.10.6-GA) with ESMTP id QAZ55258; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 01:43:07 -0400 (EDT) X-Auth-ID: petebenson Received: from 75-170-93-30.eugn.qwest.net (HELO Synapse2) ([75.170.93.30]) by smtp01.lnh.mail.rcn.net with ESMTP; 20 Jul 2009 01:43:06 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Pete Benson" To: References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 X-Junkmail-Whitelist: YES (by domain whitelist at mr02.lnh.mail.rcn.net) Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Three GAY Guys X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 05:46:47 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 22:42:32 -0700 X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 05:46:47 -0000 I can cite a few instances: for example, a lesbian couple who were active in the Baltimore poly group when I lived in that area; and I *heard* about a triad consisting of a lesbian (A), a bisexual woman (B), and a hetero man (C). Sexually, of course, it was a V: A & B, C & B, and B with both A and C. That said, both gay men and lesbians do seem (IME) to be fairly unusual in the poly community. What someone else wrote may well be a factor -- that gay men find more acceptance for being poly than straight poly people do in the mainstream straight community. One of our gay correspondents here could maybe enlighten us as to whether they have found that to be true. (Thesis or dissertation research, anyone?) But there is also simple arithmetic. Being gay is a minority; being poly is a minority. Being both gay and poly is a far tinier percentage of the total population, the product of the two small percentages. Maybe, Mark, you and your partners could *start* a gay-poly organization or network?? Surely you can't be the *only* ones; you and the others just haven't found each other yet. :-) Pete Benson The Polyamory Handbook www.polyamoryhandbook.com ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: 19 July 2009 9:39 AM Subject: [UUPoly-L] Three GAY Guys >I have been reading the UUPoly-L digest for some time and have NOT read of > any GAY polyamory. I define this as THREE GUYS living together and all > being involved with one another. Other than what I have submitted. Even in > the > _UUPA_ (http://www.uupa.org/) stuff there is nothing about GAY > polyamory. > We, my BF and I have had other Guys staying with us in the past and are > going to have another wonderful Guy move in and become our third August > 1. I > know that three somes are somewhat common in the Gay culture but not Gay > Polyamory. HOWEVER does any one know of any references to TURE GAY > Polyamory???? > > Ideas?? > Thanks > Mark > **************Snoop, Lil Wayne, Lady GaGa -- land the tix you need for > this > summer's biggest tours. Tourtracker.com > (http://www.tourtracker.com/?ncid=emlcntusmusi00000007) > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.20/2249 - Release Date: 07/19/09 17:59:00 From ajeffri@n0nro.org Mon Jul 20 12:07:44 2009 Received: from antares.n0nro.org (ip-209-234-70-10.networkiowa.com [209.234.70.10] (may be forged)) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6KG6ZDA013538 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 12:07:42 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by antares.n0nro.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8539692002 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 11:02:11 -0500 (CDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at n0nro.org Received: from antares.n0nro.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (antares.n0nro.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GHPXs2iyx6AZ for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 11:02:05 -0500 (CDT) Received: from antares.n0nro.org (antares.n0nro.org [127.0.1.1]) by antares.n0nro.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FE46692001 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 11:02:04 -0500 (CDT) From: Anthony Jeffries To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Message-ID: <23068572.281248105723266.JavaMail.root@antares> In-Reply-To: <909357.78075.qm@web45707.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Originating-IP: [12.152.201.90] X-Mailer: Zimbra 5.0.16_GA_2921.UBUNTU8 (ZimbraWebClient - FF3.0 (Linux)/5.0.16_GA_2921.UBUNTU8) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by msb.ernest-doss.org id n6KG6ZDA013538 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 16:07:44 -0000 X-Original-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 10:02:03 -0600 (GMT-06:00) X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 16:07:44 -0000 My fiancee and I are not out (yet), but we are poly and attend Unitarian Universalist Fellowship of Ames (Iowa). ----- Original Message ----- From: "nathanflorida888" To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 6:42:01 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far I am a member of UU Fellowship of Marion County, Summerfield, FL.   As far as I know, only I am poly.  It's never discussed. Nathan ________________________________ From: Beej To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 2:04:23 AM Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far UUCLV Las Vegas, NV There are at least two poly families that I know of here including our own. B-J Valerie White wrote: > I've had twenty seven responses to my request for the names of UU > congregations that folks attend . . .  could the rest of y'all please > also respond . . . I think this information about how many UU > churches have polys in their pews is important for us to have in > convincing ministers, DRE's and association leaders that UUPA's > ministry is important. > > Just send me a one-liner with the name and town and state of the > congregation where you sometimes go to church (you don't have to be a member). > > Valerie > > PS  Home > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > >  _______________________________________________ The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. UUPoly-L mailing list UUPoly-L@uupa.org http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l _______________________________________________ The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. UUPoly-L mailing list UUPoly-L@uupa.org http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l -- Tony Jeffries ajeffri@n0nro.org From valerie@valeriewhite.org Mon Jul 20 14:43:54 2009 Received: from cosmos.phy.tufts.edu (cosmos.phy.tufts.edu [130.64.83.16]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6KIgk7U029735 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:43:52 -0400 Received: from p92-11.acedsl.com ([66.114.92.11]:3934 helo=VW.valeriewhite.org) by cosmos.phy.tufts.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MSxoy-0003aI-86 for uupoly-l@uupa.org; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:42:44 -0400 Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.2.20090720144139.04f753e0@valeriewhite.org> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 To: uupoly-l@uupa.org From: Valerie White In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] remember to "snip" and Valerie's piece X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 18:43:54 -0000 X-Original-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:41:58 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 18:43:54 -0000 At 11:28 AM 7/16/2009, you wrote: > When replying to a digest, DON'T include the whole digest, cut it off >except for just enough to maintian the subject. > >I have a copy of Valeri's nice setting of the Markham and hope to use it >sometime. OK, I give up. Where did you get it? V From Elastraz@aol.com Mon Jul 20 15:06:01 2009 Received: from imr-da02.mx.aol.com (imr-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.144]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6KJ4oF7032237 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 15:05:57 -0400 Received: from imo-da04.mx.aol.com (imo-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.202]) by imr-da02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n6KJ4j91025416 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 15:04:45 -0400 Received: from Elastraz@aol.com by imo-da04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id g.c63.4923c546 (41812) for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 15:04:39 -0400 (EDT) From: Elastraz@aol.com Message-ID: To: uupoly-l@uupa.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 5203 X-Spam-Flag: NO Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 19:06:02 -0000 X-Original-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 15:04:38 EDT X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 19:06:02 -0000 Hi,Valerie! I'm not exactly sure how this thread started out-just reading this for the first time,but I gather that you are taking an informal poll of Poly-minded UU people.Well,for myself,I am definitely extremely interested in pursuing this ideal .I'm into all the theories,and I'd like to actually try them out with the right person(s).Currently ,there is one other person in my congregation who I have told of this way of relating and he is very curious about it.Anyway,I definitely consider myself poly ,by nature(non-practicing still).And,am seriously considering sometime in the spring finding a rep of UUPA to travel for a service for my congregation. I belong to the UUCRT :UU Congregation at Rock Tavern,Washingtonville,New York. WellWishes, Pasha **************An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221323041x1201367261/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=Jul yExcfooterNO62) From homeatlas_t@yahoo.com Mon Jul 20 23:01:12 2009 Received: from web63006.mail.re1.yahoo.com (web63006.mail.re1.yahoo.com [69.147.96.217]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n6L3037S007590 for ; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 23:01:09 -0400 Received: (qmail 82839 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Jul 2009 03:00:02 -0000 Message-ID: <935466.82228.qm@web63006.mail.re1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 5XsArD8VM1kJy4dglYuzuCiq29fmUCTuzYRAZrPvTB8bx3.UMlVsXnMRxnymnXGydPSmfAQSCtM.P_3MWcCL6kVXDjlEB7JV.BStIuOMb4TpkvCWj052502THqALEiRlG5AhVUjlN_tQFaeo_rjseb_aLRpdX6gEkv3Eb7I12ntGO8AQOkbA8GImVQFIjQBjo4go.9_ttBaDnVx1ccEXzmOIwjoyCPQPvozIem1E5I8wJCuwms2X1g_tjZTpnYzfXFKM.IFngMpH.PilFcieo131y0WLVx3XqklRsAjgW5oDK0eZseifotwvI3ubThjumQh6U6gVWBbjKmW6E1d5OtSZD7se9uLKeIahCw-- Received: from [70.193.136.195] by web63006.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:00:02 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/5.4.17 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 From: home To: uupoly-l@uupa.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 03:01:12 -0000 X-Original-Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:00:02 -0700 (PDT) X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 03:01:12 -0000 Hello! I rarely respond on this list-serve, but read the subject lines and this on= e is very interesting to me. =A0I attend the Rainier Unitarian-Universalist= Congregation in Seattle, WA. =A0There are at least two other polywogs who = attend. =A0RUUC is a very diverse and "out" congregation in general, but we= revealed ourselves to each other even more when we became a Welcoming Cong= regation last year. =A0 Will the results of this informal poll be compiled and made available? Thanks! Angelee --- On Mon, 7/20/09, Elastraz@aol.com wrote: From: Elastraz@aol.com Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Date: Monday, July 20, 2009, 12:04 PM Hi,Valerie! I'm not exactly sure how this thread started out-just reading this=A0 for= =20 the first time,but I gather that you are taking an informal poll of=A0=20 Poly-minded UU people.Well,for myself,I am definitely extremely interested = in=A0=20 pursuing this ideal .I'm into all the theories,and I'd like to actually try= them=A0=20 out with the right person(s).Currently ,there is one other person in my=A0= =20 congregation who I have told of this way of relating and he is very curious= =A0=20 about it.Anyway,I definitely consider myself poly ,by nature(non-practicing= =A0=20 still).And,am seriously considering sometime in the spring finding a rep of= =20 UUPA=A0 to travel for a service for my congregation. I belong to the UUCRT = :UU=A0=20 Congregation at Rock Tavern,Washingtonville,New York. =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0= =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0=20 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 WellWishes, =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0= =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0=20 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0=A0=A0Pa= sha **************An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy=20 Steps!=20 (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221323041x1201367261/aol?redir=3D= http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=3D668072&hmpgID=3D62&bcd= =3DJul yExcfooterNO62) _______________________________________________ The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. UUPoly-L mailing list UUPoly-L@uupa.org http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l =0A=0A=0A From valerie@valeriewhite.org Tue Jul 21 07:51:29 2009 Received: from cosmos.phy.tufts.edu (cosmos.phy.tufts.edu [130.64.83.16]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6LBoMJ4009373 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 07:51:28 -0400 Received: from p92-11.acedsl.com ([66.114.92.11]:4731 helo=VW.valeriewhite.org) by cosmos.phy.tufts.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MTDrS-0005zr-0x for uupoly-l@uupa.org; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 07:50:22 -0400 Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.2.20090721073231.04f71ab0@valeriewhite.org> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 To: uupoly-l@uupa.org From: Valerie White In-Reply-To: <935466.82228.qm@web63006.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <935466.82228.qm@web63006.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: [UUPoly-L] Results to date X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:51:29 -0000 X-Original-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 07:49:27 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:51:29 -0000 So far, 64 congregations have been named, in 31 states, including the Church of the larger Fellowship and the Church of the Younger Fellowship. Several people listed more than one congregation, and several congregations were reported by more than one respondent. California, Virginia and Massachusetts are the most mentioned states, but several of the VA congregations were listed by one respondent. This is very important information, I think. The last I heard there were 300 plus subscribers to this list . . . so how many congregations have not been reported? If 63 UU congregations have poly people in the pews JUST FROM THIS LIST, denominational leaders must sit up and take notice that we are here and we are not going away. And I know there are poly UU's who are not on this list. I know there are poly folk associated with the congregations in Medford and Salem, MA. Any more responses? From vickib@gmail.com Tue Jul 21 08:30:58 2009 Received: from mail-gx0-f208.google.com (mail-gx0-f208.google.com [209.85.217.208]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6LCUwI2013997 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 08:30:58 -0400 Received: by gxk4 with SMTP id 4so4844038gxk.2 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 05:30:55 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: vickib@gmail.com Received: by 10.231.31.70 with SMTP id x6mr618164ibc.32.1248179454856; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 05:30:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20090721073231.04f71ab0@valeriewhite.org> References: <935466.82228.qm@web63006.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20090721073231.04f71ab0@valeriewhite.org> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 160705e291ddb492 Message-ID: From: Vicki Bloom To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Results to date X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 12:30:58 -0000 X-Original-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 08:30:54 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 12:30:58 -0000 Not sure if it was listed yet, but I'm at the Unitarian Universalist Fellowship of Northern Westchester in Mt. Kisco, NY. --Vicki, mostly a lurker here. On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 7:49 AM, Valerie White wrote: > So far, 64 congregations have been named, in 31 states, including the > Church of the larger Fellowship and the Church of the Younger > Fellowship. Several people listed more than one congregation, and > several congregations were reported by more than one > respondent. California, Virginia and Massachusetts are the most > mentioned states, but several of the VA congregations were listed by > one respondent. > > This is very important information, I think. The last I heard there > were 300 plus subscribers to this list . . . so how many > congregations have not been reported? If 63 UU congregations have > poly people in the pews JUST FROM THIS LIST, denominational leaders > must sit up and take notice that we are here and we are not going > away. And I know there are poly UU's who are not on this list. I > know there are poly folk associated with the congregations in Medford > and Salem, MA. > > Any more responses? > > > > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > From dharmamama1@gmail.com Tue Jul 21 08:34:49 2009 Received: from mail-gx0-f208.google.com (mail-gx0-f208.google.com [209.85.217.208]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6LCYkDv014969 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 08:34:46 -0400 Received: by gxk4 with SMTP id 4so4847826gxk.2 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 05:34:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.100.20 with SMTP id x20mr870534agb.45.1248179683424; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 05:34:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.101? (cpe-069-132-179-123.carolina.res.rr.com [69.132.179.123]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 40sm2622632aga.78.2009.07.21.05.34.42 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 21 Jul 2009 05:34:42 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753.1) In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20090721073231.04f71ab0@valeriewhite.org> References: <935466.82228.qm@web63006.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20090721073231.04f71ab0@valeriewhite.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <3780E68A-6B72-49CE-8B54-51ACF7699E89@gmail.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Caren KH To: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753.1) Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Results to date X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 12:34:49 -0000 X-Original-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 08:34:40 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 12:34:49 -0000 I'd love to see the list you've compiled! Caren UU Church of Charlotte, Charlotte, NC On Jul 21, 2009, at 7:49 AM, Valerie White wrote: > So far, 64 congregations have been named, in 31 states, including the > Church of the larger Fellowship and the Church of the Younger > Fellowship. Several people listed more than one congregation, and > several congregations were reported by more than one > respondent. California, Virginia and Massachusetts are the most > mentioned states, but several of the VA congregations were listed by > one respondent. > > This is very important information, I think. The last I heard there > were 300 plus subscribers to this list . . . so how many > congregations have not been reported? If 63 UU congregations have > poly people in the pews JUST FROM THIS LIST, denominational leaders > must sit up and take notice that we are here and we are not going > away. And I know there are poly UU's who are not on this list. I > know there are poly folk associated with the congregations in Medford > and Salem, MA. > > Any more responses? > > > > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about > yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l From polydvh@gmail.com Tue Jul 21 08:47:24 2009 Received: from mail-yx0-f190.google.com (mail-yx0-f190.google.com [209.85.210.190]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6LClNxu016978 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 08:47:23 -0400 Received: by yxe28 with SMTP id 28so5383021yxe.10 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 05:47:21 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.143.12 with SMTP id q12mr8983115ybd.27.1248180441706; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 05:47:21 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20090721073231.04f71ab0@valeriewhite.org> References: <935466.82228.qm@web63006.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20090721073231.04f71ab0@valeriewhite.org> Message-ID: From: david vanhorn To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by msb.ernest-doss.org id n6LClNxu016978 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Results to date X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 12:47:24 -0000 X-Original-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 08:47:21 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 12:47:24 -0000 > This is very important information, I think.  The last I heard there > were 300 plus subscribers to this list . . . so how many > congregations have not been reported?  If 63 UU congregations have > poly people in the pews JUST FROM THIS LIST, denominational leaders > must sit up and take notice that we are here and we are not going > away.  And I know there are poly UU's who are not on this list.  I > know there are poly folk associated with the congregations in Medford > and Salem, MA. I really get the impression that there's a lot more of us out here than we might think. For every one of us that's online, I'm willing to believe that there's one or two more who aren't. -- http://www.libchrist.com/phoenix/healing.html From earthfather@cfnc.us Tue Jul 21 09:01:56 2009 Received: from vms173017pub.verizon.net (vms173017pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.17]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6LD0lAn019107 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 09:01:54 -0400 Received: from MVRLENOVO ([97.72.99.240]) by vms173017.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KN400K31URE8KR9@vms173017.mailsrvcs.net> for uupoly-l@uupa.org; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 07:59:58 -0500 (CDT) From: "Michael Rios" To: References: <935466.82228.qm@web63006.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20090721073231.04f71ab0@valeriewhite.org> Message-id: <6B5072D0C8DF4BD499576040656DF169@MVRLENOVO> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-reply-to: X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-index: AcoKAXqBPNW443fPTjy7s82QVjrkzAAAWgQA Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Results to date X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 13:01:56 -0000 X-Original-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 08:59:37 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 13:01:56 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: david vanhorn > > I really get the impression that there's a lot more of us out > here than we might think. > For every one of us that's online, I'm willing to believe > that there's one or two more who aren't. More likely 10 or 20. The vast majority of polyfolk I know have never been on an e-list or poly support group. Michael Rios From circles705@yahoo.com Tue Jul 21 09:21:18 2009 Received: from web36504.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web36504.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.85.4]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n6LDKBDo021848 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 09:21:17 -0400 Received: (qmail 49219 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Jul 2009 13:20:07 -0000 Message-ID: <974791.48818.qm@web36504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: Xxii9vMVM1loBwSsLVMo8KnHLo77PeG4.Fjn5txm70ny1lyxg15vItbQtRxzI.6MsdQP50T1aGrOJ1RcjQUD0tmWN8ZjdYFbLu6W4ezs2_xm5.oGHQSIe4PYTUVza4_Z2I_hT8o.521cDsiwrhvTjx2HdU9lpBkPk9_1ycZQz2UyHlnkYmNz7W03Lmm6P8KanHiWjy.9ca7YqcpaNoqgXt4qmR5stoR3YoRb2ywnwHAzB8ZbCMVPzKYvWeCYMPQIDJkycY4NAznzFEbGtX5QTfo4.0L.N6lH.7w- Received: from [96.230.23.174] by web36504.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 06:20:01 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.0.18 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 From: Gordon B To: uupoly-l@uupa.org In-Reply-To: <935466.82228.qm@web63006.mail.re1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 13:21:18 -0000 X-Original-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 06:20:01 -0700 (PDT) X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 13:21:18 -0000 =A0 "RUUC is a very diverse and out congregation in general"=A0 We are members of the Universalist Unitarian Church of East Liberty, Clark = Lake, Michigan.=A0 Our congregation is more in the old universalist standar= d.=A0 Small. rural and agricultural.=A0 Although we are a "Welcoming Congre= gation" we like flying under the radar and don't want to test that water by= being out.=A0 Maybe once we find another couple of our own.=A0 Gordon and = Chris.=0A=0A=0A From honeybeasmama@gmail.com Tue Jul 21 09:43:20 2009 Received: from mail-gx0-f208.google.com (mail-gx0-f208.google.com [209.85.217.208]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6LDhKU3024038 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 09:43:20 -0400 Received: by gxk4 with SMTP id 4so4920035gxk.2 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 06:43:18 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.146.14 with SMTP id t14mr9042599ybd.142.1248183798115; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 06:43:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <974791.48818.qm@web36504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <935466.82228.qm@web63006.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <974791.48818.qm@web36504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <588687890907210643o3dc9dcet444774c3b3e084e6@mail.gmail.com> From: Jeni To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 13:43:21 -0000 X-Original-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 09:43:18 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 13:43:21 -0000 UU of the Poconos (PA). Occasional attendees, non-members. Jeni. From boydw.smith@yahoo.com Tue Jul 21 11:33:24 2009 Received: from web110510.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (web110510.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [67.195.8.115]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n6LFWDOr004286 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:33:20 -0400 Received: (qmail 86606 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Jul 2009 15:32:13 -0000 Message-ID: <938969.85750.qm@web110510.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: zaOG6BMVM1mUUG3ijg5SxpeX2dJPLmgsr1tqOMgJd2uUrqJ6zGC5nDa3.yOBvGSnkgCxS600CwvpsSHbAYaXC.6IRCQKjvxAJcH9M0g64Nebf_45dK22xluA8xsNr5rQU7oqWzZ2Lc2mOxGPuiqguYrbd2EUAYk0IebHSOIAFJWgW2fqwp8XFNzmlsmncZ7a1_Ea6syWEHl8E26TdR5Wmq08P12Zt7rM9QhdV0sgDLcZh6R9XaFDk_iklOPJ74mDdlKXR0nWH5PWo5b.T69_VJKb.H1ybBx86Dfax3Vhq9sBMVtzXQw3FdW9AgEJEr_zFpVZuuyRtOuAo.sQ15GkgjRhhDdF9MiU5CqB_MQ- Received: from [24.229.110.118] by web110510.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 08:32:12 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.0.18 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 From: Boyd Smith To: uupoly-l@uupa.org In-Reply-To: <588687890907210643o3dc9dcet444774c3b3e084e6@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:33:26 -0000 X-Original-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 08:32:12 -0700 (PDT) X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:33:26 -0000 Is that the one in E. Strousberg? I go there while I am at training at Tobyhanna Army Depot. BWS --- On Tue, 7/21/09, Jeni wrote: > From: Jeni > Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far > To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > Date: Tuesday, July 21, 2009, 8:43 AM > UU of the Poconos (PA). Occasional > attendees, non-members. > > Jeni. > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal > about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > From julie.nebel1@gmail.com Tue Jul 21 11:43:11 2009 Received: from mail-qy0-f199.google.com (mail-qy0-f199.google.com [209.85.221.199]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6LFh8c1006682 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:43:08 -0400 Received: by qyk37 with SMTP id 37so2607793qyk.10 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 08:43:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.11.135 with SMTP id t7mr737683ibt.12.1248190987358; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 08:43:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <588687890907210643o3dc9dcet444774c3b3e084e6@mail.gmail.com> References: <935466.82228.qm@web63006.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <974791.48818.qm@web36504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <588687890907210643o3dc9dcet444774c3b3e084e6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: From: Julie Nebel To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:43:11 -0000 X-Original-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 10:43:07 -0500 X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 15:43:11 -0000 My love and his wife belong to a UU church in Sussex, WI. On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 8:43 AM, Jeni wrote: > UU of the Poconos (PA). Occasional attendees, non-members. > > Jeni. > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > From rtorstrick@sbcglobal.net Tue Jul 21 12:13:52 2009 Received: from smtp117.sbc.mail.re3.yahoo.com (smtp117.sbc.mail.re3.yahoo.com [66.196.96.90]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n6LGChsk011162 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 12:13:49 -0400 Received: (qmail 3609 invoked from network); 21 Jul 2009 16:12:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO extension) (rtorstrick@99.48.67.199 with login) by smtp117.sbc.mail.re3.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Jul 2009 16:12:43 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 4wr.PCQVM1njl2b_ThRkXaGdBVRetqiBh0dkoKiAqwPgUcfaGDHiqugO_u9hqSoiYEq.fU7VhGrxqJWz6D0s91CJrcxY6X5y3FiaX7_uxyyK17LOWIJqHwL0.PEjcFHL7UukxQp6mmY2pPYK5y_fcNZSIZgMtfgFYtAdPXPOPucmkaWCu0B_qMuwrnT0cp6rTdi8nCx_vjro.k1RHYH9aVA5YQ7Yyelj3W3vGG4aBy5ueI.KM.sB_u5ONt7SvdCZ1fr_PlZwzNb1BUxVRLmyeKpm6I_dNblw.lDnXCIumUh4qTvxQQ-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: "Richard Torstrick" To: References: <935466.82228.qm@web63006.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <7486D4FF1B3141DD90F64C221256FAF9@extension> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: <935466.82228.qm@web63006.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Thread-Index: AcoJr6luqkBU4jhTRRGBkZh3QY1lqQAbbX5g X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:13:52 -0000 X-Original-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 12:20:10 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:13:52 -0000 Hello from UU of Bloomington, IN. I'm a friend of polys. I know practicing polys here, too. This is a "welcoming" congregation, but I learned in a conversation with a pastor that this does NOT officially extend to polys (and will not, as long as this pastor is here, I gather). Not to say polys themselves aren't accepted here, just not officially acknowledged. Don't ask, don't tell. This based on "pain from the 60s experiments," and such. From licorice.gumdrop@gmail.com Tue Jul 21 12:19:52 2009 Received: from mail-qy0-f199.google.com (mail-qy0-f199.google.com [209.85.221.199]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6LGJmVE012550 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 12:19:48 -0400 Received: by qyk37 with SMTP id 37so2648354qyk.10 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 09:19:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.67.6 with SMTP id p6mr3911151qai.7.1248193186288; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 09:19:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?10.200.59.208? (mobile-166-137-132-129.mycingular.net [166.137.132.129]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 4sm6186125qwe.57.2009.07.21.09.19.44 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Tue, 21 Jul 2009 09:19:45 -0700 (PDT) References: <935466.82228.qm@web63006.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <7486D4FF1B3141DD90F64C221256FAF9@extension> Message-Id: <71944358-84A9-41A2-80A6-FBE733BEB297@gmail.com> From: licorice gumdrop To: "uupoly-l@uupa.org" In-Reply-To: <7486D4FF1B3141DD90F64C221256FAF9@extension> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (7A341) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 7A341) Cc: "" Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:19:52 -0000 X-Original-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 12:19:38 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:19:52 -0000 i'm not trying to be obtuse, but what does that mean? my mother had a similar reaction (and used nearly those exact words) when I came out to her as poly a few years ago, and we haven't talked of it since. - jenny On Jul 21, 2009, at 12:20 PM, "Richard Torstrick" wrote: > Hello from UU of Bloomington, IN. > > Not to say polys themselves aren't accepted > here, just not officially acknowledged. Don't ask, don't tell. > This based > on "pain from the 60s experiments," and such. From valerie@valeriewhite.org Tue Jul 21 14:42:58 2009 Received: from cosmos.phy.tufts.edu (cosmos.phy.tufts.edu [130.64.83.16]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6LIfpN6025130 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:42:57 -0400 Received: from p92-11.acedsl.com ([66.114.92.11]:4793 helo=VW.valeriewhite.org) by cosmos.phy.tufts.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MTKHe-0001cA-O2; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:41:50 -0400 Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.2.20090721143921.04f77428@valeriewhite.org> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 To: uupoly-l@uupa.org, From: Valerie White In-Reply-To: <7486D4FF1B3141DD90F64C221256FAF9@extension> References: <935466.82228.qm@web63006.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <7486D4FF1B3141DD90F64C221256FAF9@extension> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 18:42:58 -0000 X-Original-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:40:56 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 18:42:58 -0000 At 12:20 PM 7/21/2009, Richard Torstrick wrote: >Hello from UU of Bloomington, IN. > >I'm a friend of polys. I know practicing polys here, too. This is a >"welcoming" congregation, but I learned in a conversation with a pastor that >this does NOT officially extend to polys (and will not, as long as this >pastor is here, I gather). I met the co-ministers of this church at GA . . . I'm very surprised to hear this. I didn't discuss polyamory with them, but generally they struck me as mensches. V From mistmtn26@yahoo.com Tue Jul 21 16:50:39 2009 Received: from web112410.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (web112410.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.137.26.157]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n6LKnTeM000666 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 16:50:37 -0400 Received: (qmail 22220 invoked by uid 60001); 21 Jul 2009 20:49:28 -0000 Message-ID: <798779.21852.qm@web112410.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: DTR78cgVM1lONq9pvCug.kyjRiVJsGYeBJUoO0TYS4V7ZYSUeawEPEI7QQMF6YjzALAy1q1wQrqiAQu3iuEHExBiajOvx7TjSkXz0S4To2i3lzm.OBGkGAYmVYpisPp7oCEU3w.qaKEP2PBjnScxR_0sdEb5QJFl1oVVapkdtiJlph6eh7ICd4kI8v0Vi2gVQiciHWvExpORGU64fJMMnWMGntAP.ti6rsKhHSUk7E_h3Tpwm33143Xbi3TqIIXsUzbRb9g6TdGOFRW8tP5bkymDhNxQncKwfCSncpvaYkQS6UtNREKEU54tKWY0rQoriyG4 Received: from [69.136.238.38] by web112410.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 13:49:28 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.0.18 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 From: Mist To: uupoly-l@uupa.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Results to date X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 20:50:39 -0000 X-Original-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 13:49:28 -0700 (PDT) X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 20:50:39 -0000 Sugarloaf Congregation of Unitarian Universalists, Maryland -- out to those who matter most to me within the congregation. From emoraine108@gmail.com Tue Jul 21 20:22:53 2009 Received: from mail-bw0-f222.google.com (mail-bw0-f222.google.com [209.85.218.222]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6M0Mnch014288 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 20:22:49 -0400 Received: by bwz22 with SMTP id 22so3024488bwz.26 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 17:22:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.134.145 with SMTP id 17mr36174hbz.64.1248222167119; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 17:22:47 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20090721143921.04f77428@valeriewhite.org> References: <935466.82228.qm@web63006.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <7486D4FF1B3141DD90F64C221256FAF9@extension> <7.0.1.0.2.20090721143921.04f77428@valeriewhite.org> From: Erich Moraine Message-ID: <7fb292000907211722mfebbcaalfaeb0bce0c19b37b@mail.gmail.com> To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 00:22:54 -0000 X-Original-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 20:22:27 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 00:22:54 -0000 I am a polyamorous board member of a UU Church in Hartland Wisconsin. On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Valerie White wrote: > At 12:20 PM 7/21/2009, Richard Torstrick wrote: > >Hello from UU of Bloomington, IN. > > > >I'm a friend of polys. I know practicing polys here, too. This is a > >"welcoming" congregation, but I learned in a conversation with a pastor > that > >this does NOT officially extend to polys (and will not, as long as this > >pastor is here, I gather). > > > I met the co-ministers of this church at GA . . . I'm very surprised > to hear this. I didn't discuss polyamory with them, but generally > they struck me as mensches. > > V > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > From info@thetemplepriestess.com Tue Jul 21 20:56:00 2009 Received: from smtpoutwbe05.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (smtpoutwbe05.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [208.109.78.207]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n6M0spj6016813 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 20:55:57 -0400 Received: (qmail 17327 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2009 00:53:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gem-wbe35.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net) (64.202.189.31) by smtpoutwbe05.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net with SMTP; 22 Jul 2009 00:53:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 14644 invoked by uid 99); 22 Jul 2009 00:53:48 -0000 X-Originating-IP: 76.196.238.42 User-Agent: Web-Based Email 5.1.2 Message-Id: <20090721175347.c92c11acff2a13d67331a2ae35d6984a.09efefb14a.wbe@email.secureserver.net> From: info@thetemplepriestess.com To: uupoly-l@uupa.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: [UUPoly-L] poly question X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 00:56:00 -0000 X-Original-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 17:53:47 -0700 X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 00:56:00 -0000 my husband and I are poly and attend ocassionally (our membership lapsed and we got busy with other things) the san diego first uu church, we heard the new minister in another church (san diegieto fellowship) is poly-friendly so we may join there, Blessings, Barbara www.TheTemplePriestess.com -------- Original Message -------- Subject: UUPoly-L Digest, Vol 58, Issue 18 From: uupoly-l-request@uupa.org Date: Tue, July 21, 2009 8:33 am To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Send UUPoly-L mailing list submissions to uupoly-l@uupa.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to uupoly-l-request@uupa.org You can reach the person managing the list at uupoly-l-owner@uupa.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of UUPoly-L digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: up to 27 so far (Anthony Jeffries) 2. Re: remember to "snip" and Valerie's piece (Valerie White) 3. Re: up to 27 so far (Elastraz@aol.com) 4. Re: up to 27 so far (home) 5. Results to date (Valerie White) 6. Re: Results to date (Vicki Bloom) 7. Re: Results to date (Caren KH) 8. Re: Results to date (david vanhorn) 9. Re: Results to date (Michael Rios) 10. Re: up to 27 so far (Gordon B) 11. Re: up to 27 so far (Jeni) 12. Re: up to 27 so far (Boyd Smith) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 10:02:03 -0600 (GMT-06:00) From: Anthony Jeffries Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Message-ID: <23068572.281248105723266.JavaMail.root@antares> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 My fiancee and I are not out (yet), but we are poly and attend Unitarian Universalist Fellowship of Ames (Iowa). ----- Original Message ----- From: "nathanflorida888" To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 6:42:01 PM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far I am a member of UU Fellowship of Marion County, Summerfield, FL. ? As far as I know, only I am poly.? It's never discussed. Nathan ________________________________ From: Beej To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 2:04:23 AM Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far UUCLV Las Vegas, NV There are at least two poly families that I know of here including our own. B-J Valerie White wrote: > I've had twenty seven responses to my request for the names of UU > congregations that folks attend . . .? could the rest of y'all please > also respond . . . I think this information about how many UU > churches have polys in their pews is important for us to have in > convincing ministers, DRE's and association leaders that UUPA's > ministry is important. > > Just send me a one-liner with the name and town and state of the > congregation where you sometimes go to church (you don't have to be a member). > > Valerie > > PS? Home > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > >? _______________________________________________ The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. UUPoly-L mailing list UUPoly-L@uupa.org http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l _______________________________________________ The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. UUPoly-L mailing list UUPoly-L@uupa.org http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l -- Tony Jeffries ajeffri@n0nro.org ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:41:58 -0400 From: Valerie White Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] remember to "snip" and Valerie's piece To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20090720144139.04f753e0@valeriewhite.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 11:28 AM 7/16/2009, you wrote: > When replying to a digest, DON'T include the whole digest, cut it off >except for just enough to maintian the subject. > >I have a copy of Valeri's nice setting of the Markham and hope to use it >sometime. OK, I give up. Where did you get it? V ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 15:04:38 EDT From: Elastraz@aol.com Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Hi,Valerie! I'm not exactly sure how this thread started out-just reading this for the first time,but I gather that you are taking an informal poll of Poly-minded UU people.Well,for myself,I am definitely extremely interested in pursuing this ideal .I'm into all the theories,and I'd like to actually try them out with the right person(s).Currently ,there is one other person in my congregation who I have told of this way of relating and he is very curious about it.Anyway,I definitely consider myself poly ,by nature(non-practicing still).And,am seriously considering sometime in the spring finding a rep of UUPA to travel for a service for my congregation. I belong to the UUCRT :UU Congregation at Rock Tavern,Washingtonville,New York. WellWishes, Pasha **************An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221323041x1201367261/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=Jul yExcfooterNO62) ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:00:02 -0700 (PDT) From: home Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Message-ID: <935466.82228.qm@web63006.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hello! I rarely respond on this list-serve, but read the subject lines and this one is very interesting to me. ?I attend the Rainier Unitarian-Universalist Congregation in Seattle, WA. ?There are at least two other polywogs who attend. ?RUUC is a very diverse and "out" congregation in general, but we revealed ourselves to each other even more when we became a Welcoming Congregation last year. ? Will the results of this informal poll be compiled and made available? Thanks! Angelee --- On Mon, 7/20/09, Elastraz@aol.com wrote: From: Elastraz@aol.com Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Date: Monday, July 20, 2009, 12:04 PM Hi,Valerie! I'm not exactly sure how this thread started out-just reading this? for the first time,but I gather that you are taking an informal poll of? Poly-minded UU people.Well,for myself,I am definitely extremely interested in? pursuing this ideal .I'm into all the theories,and I'd like to actually try them? out with the right person(s).Currently ,there is one other person in my? congregation who I have told of this way of relating and he is very curious? about it.Anyway,I definitely consider myself poly ,by nature(non-practicing? still).And,am seriously considering sometime in the spring finding a rep of UUPA? to travel for a service for my congregation. I belong to the UUCRT :UU? Congregation at Rock Tavern,Washingtonville,New York. ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? WellWishes, ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???Pasha **************An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221323041x1201367261/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd=Jul yExcfooterNO62) _______________________________________________ The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. UUPoly-L mailing list UUPoly-L@uupa.org http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 07:49:27 -0400 From: Valerie White Subject: [UUPoly-L] Results to date To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20090721073231.04f71ab0@valeriewhite.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed So far, 64 congregations have been named, in 31 states, including the Church of the larger Fellowship and the Church of the Younger Fellowship. Several people listed more than one congregation, and several congregations were reported by more than one respondent. California, Virginia and Massachusetts are the most mentioned states, but several of the VA congregations were listed by one respondent. This is very important information, I think. The last I heard there were 300 plus subscribers to this list . . . so how many congregations have not been reported? If 63 UU congregations have poly people in the pews JUST FROM THIS LIST, denominational leaders must sit up and take notice that we are here and we are not going away. And I know there are poly UU's who are not on this list. I know there are poly folk associated with the congregations in Medford and Salem, MA. Any more responses? ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 08:30:54 -0400 From: Vicki Bloom Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Results to date To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Not sure if it was listed yet, but I'm at the Unitarian Universalist Fellowship of Northern Westchester in Mt. Kisco, NY. --Vicki, mostly a lurker here. On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 7:49 AM, Valerie White wrote: > So far, 64 congregations have been named, in 31 states, including the > Church of the larger Fellowship and the Church of the Younger > Fellowship. Several people listed more than one congregation, and > several congregations were reported by more than one > respondent. California, Virginia and Massachusetts are the most > mentioned states, but several of the VA congregations were listed by > one respondent. > > This is very important information, I think. The last I heard there > were 300 plus subscribers to this list . . . so how many > congregations have not been reported? If 63 UU congregations have > poly people in the pews JUST FROM THIS LIST, denominational leaders > must sit up and take notice that we are here and we are not going > away. And I know there are poly UU's who are not on this list. I > know there are poly folk associated with the congregations in Medford > and Salem, MA. > > Any more responses? > > > > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 08:34:40 -0400 From: Caren KH Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Results to date To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Message-ID: <3780E68A-6B72-49CE-8B54-51ACF7699E89@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed I'd love to see the list you've compiled! Caren UU Church of Charlotte, Charlotte, NC On Jul 21, 2009, at 7:49 AM, Valerie White wrote: > So far, 64 congregations have been named, in 31 states, including the > Church of the larger Fellowship and the Church of the Younger > Fellowship. Several people listed more than one congregation, and > several congregations were reported by more than one > respondent. California, Virginia and Massachusetts are the most > mentioned states, but several of the VA congregations were listed by > one respondent. > > This is very important information, I think. The last I heard there > were 300 plus subscribers to this list . . . so how many > congregations have not been reported? If 63 UU congregations have > poly people in the pews JUST FROM THIS LIST, denominational leaders > must sit up and take notice that we are here and we are not going > away. And I know there are poly UU's who are not on this list. I > know there are poly folk associated with the congregations in Medford > and Salem, MA. > > Any more responses? > > > > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about > yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 08:47:21 -0400 From: david vanhorn Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Results to date To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > This is very important information, I think. ?The last I heard there > were 300 plus subscribers to this list . . . so how many > congregations have not been reported? ?If 63 UU congregations have > poly people in the pews JUST FROM THIS LIST, denominational leaders > must sit up and take notice that we are here and we are not going > away. ?And I know there are poly UU's who are not on this list. ?I > know there are poly folk associated with the congregations in Medford > and Salem, MA. I really get the impression that there's a lot more of us out here than we might think. For every one of us that's online, I'm willing to believe that there's one or two more who aren't. -- http://www.libchrist.com/phoenix/healing.html ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 08:59:37 -0400 From: "Michael Rios" Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Results to date To: Message-ID: <6B5072D0C8DF4BD499576040656DF169@MVRLENOVO> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > -----Original Message----- > From: david vanhorn > > I really get the impression that there's a lot more of us out > here than we might think. > For every one of us that's online, I'm willing to believe > that there's one or two more who aren't. More likely 10 or 20. The vast majority of polyfolk I know have never been on an e-list or poly support group. Michael Rios ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 06:20:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Gordon B Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Message-ID: <974791.48818.qm@web36504.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 ? "RUUC is a very diverse and out congregation in general"? We are members of the Universalist Unitarian Church of East Liberty, Clark Lake, Michigan.? Our congregation is more in the old universalist standard.? Small. rural and agricultural.? Although we are a "Welcoming Congregation" we like flying under the radar and don't want to test that water by being out.? Maybe once we find another couple of our own.? Gordon and Chris. ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 09:43:18 -0400 From: Jeni Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Message-ID: <588687890907210643o3dc9dcet444774c3b3e084e6@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 UU of the Poconos (PA). Occasional attendees, non-members. Jeni. ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 08:32:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Boyd Smith Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Message-ID: <938969.85750.qm@web110510.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Is that the one in E. Strousberg? I go there while I am at training at Tobyhanna Army Depot. BWS --- On Tue, 7/21/09, Jeni wrote: > From: Jeni > Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far > To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > Date: Tuesday, July 21, 2009, 8:43 AM > UU of the Poconos (PA). Occasional > attendees, non-members. > > Jeni. > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal > about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. UUPoly-L mailing list UUPoly-L@uupa.org http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l End of UUPoly-L Digest, Vol 58, Issue 18 **************************************** From imapolygirl@yahoo.com Tue Jul 21 22:09:39 2009 Received: from web51711.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web51711.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.39.76]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n6M28T8T022200 for ; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 22:09:35 -0400 Received: (qmail 44035 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Jul 2009 02:08:27 -0000 Message-ID: <464850.43149.qm@web51711.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: LOQReXkVM1nvW1u_YUyLD6wPA40KxOZwhSbwcI3PZbSvPSy5FuicYkV.LLiisnXTm7O_FqZL0ya0WjqtUS72PEzdXJuQoX51cqI57TYYvKOYwK90AVs7RqA8rc7CCLczNF0XSL5a_jJ4xHZjiAGk7gd8U9.qWkyRRHeBvwci01pmm6JUJCHA64Q.Jdq9a5C2MZiUq9ellkUVKVbm2.0uO2HQ8BRWVJrYcmL3EQjePqwhJqcj6GfSzOXWbq0q7.BC4..ak1VhUAC0y8JqetG2GdNg3ufrdbg.R42EZb_BozZbKjPT77jAZir0lRMidtC1QDXkSp5M4bitmC4- Received: from [68.55.32.193] by web51711.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 21 Jul 2009 19:08:27 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1358.22 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 References: <798779.21852.qm@web112410.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> From: Anita Wagner To: uupoly-l@uupa.org In-Reply-To: <798779.21852.qm@web112410.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Results to date X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 02:09:39 -0000 X-Original-Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 19:08:27 -0700 (PDT) X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 02:09:39 -0000 My primary partner, Tim, and I are members of Paint Branch UUC in Adelphi, = Maryland, just outside the Washington Beltway.=A0 (Waiving to Mist - hello = neighbor!)=0A=0ASmiles,=0AAnita Wagner=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A______________________= __________=0AFrom: Mist =0ATo: uupoly-l@uupa.org=0ASen= t: Tuesday, July 21, 2009 4:49:28 PM=0ASubject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Results to d= ate=0A=0A=0ASugarloaf Congregation of Unitarian Universalists, Maryland -- = out to those who matter most to me within the congregation.=0A=0A=0A=A0 =A0= =A0 =0A_______________________________________________=0AThe UUPoly-L mail= ing list has public archives.=0APlease keep that in mind when deciding how = much to reveal about yourself.=0AUUPoly-L mailing list=0AUUPoly-L@uupa.org= =0Ahttp://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l=0A From mistmtn26@yahoo.com Wed Jul 22 20:34:53 2009 Received: from web112404.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (web112404.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [98.137.26.133]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n6N0XiPE012487 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 20:34:50 -0400 Received: (qmail 45417 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Jul 2009 00:33:43 -0000 Message-ID: <837021.44233.qm@web112404.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: VOlN2LkVM1nNVwqfiyg0qHezZKBtLEKY8xt85mJWNUZpUZzPU52U8RMxuXyaIGgrsRt5N6SQv0IWEYQ1bV2E.YeA2ohVqD45TVdiiujdoo6DqbxOqtnu0TnFOXTw3tSQJoJ52Gg4pZw0zkMoxmGEQVnmf.R585HkhBbo2hbbCuGMa2m9bHKhWt.KO3ldPEJ_Ppwnh1JYd_cFCNCEocAbz1DsurbC3OPmXPZ.x0PIlcQWMr5k0eOX4YxqqsTA4WduXKQ3dG439QrBxvLIm9L9SE5GerVq75EUGFjjpQdCHzzcO3tCGbIltkJbNXyEWIEEbcIPcEwSQQ-- Received: from [69.136.238.38] by web112404.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 17:33:43 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.0.19 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 From: Mist To: uupoly-l@uupa.org In-Reply-To: <464850.43149.qm@web51711.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Results to date X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 00:34:54 -0000 X-Original-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 17:33:43 -0700 (PDT) X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 00:34:54 -0000 Waiving back to you Anita -- Greetings.=A0 Misty=0A=0A=0A From sesnow@verizon.net Wed Jul 22 20:44:02 2009 Received: from vms173005pub.verizon.net (vms173005pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.5]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6N0gtTq013824 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 20:44:02 -0400 Received: from vms184.mailsrvcs.net ([172.18.12.131]) by vms173005.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KN70056BLYJ3ZT1@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> for uupoly-l@uupa.org; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:42:19 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 137.71.23.54 ([137.71.23.54]) by vms184.mailsrvcs.net (Verizon Webmail) with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:42:19 -0500 (CDT) From: Scott To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Message-id: <2123301575.2948092.1248309739257.JavaMail.root@vms184.mailsrvcs.net> X-Mailer: Verizon Webmail X-Originating-IP: [137.71.23.54] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 00:44:03 -0000 X-Original-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:42:19 -0500 (CDT) X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 00:44:03 -0000 Is it not the case that theA decision to become a "welcoming" congregation, and what that means in practiceA - like pretty much everything else in UU - is up to the congregation, *not* the minister? I am pretty sure it's not any UU minister's business to define limits for the meaning of "welcoming congregation" for their congregation. The minister may have felt - or even known from experience -A that the congregation as a whole - or influential members thereof - would not condone polyamory. Sciott. On Jul 21, 2009, Valerie White wrote: At 12:20 PM 7/21/2009, Richard Torstrick wrote: >Hello from UU of Bloomington, IN. > >I'm a friend of polys. I know practicing polys here, too. This is a >"welcoming" congregation, but I learned in a conversation with a pastor that >this does NOT officially extend to polys (and will not, as long as this >pastor is here, I gather). I met the co-ministers of this church at GA . . . I'm very surprised to hear this. I didn't discuss polyamory with them, but generally they struck me as mensches. V _______________________________________________ The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. UUPoly-L mailing list UUPoly-L@uupa.org http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l From sesnow@verizon.net Wed Jul 22 20:51:01 2009 Received: from vms173013pub.verizon.net (vms173013pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.13]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6N0npuW014989 for ; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 20:50:57 -0400 Received: from vms184.mailsrvcs.net ([172.18.12.131]) by vms173013.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 6.3-7.04 (built Sep 26 2008; 32bit)) with ESMTPA id <0KN7003JZMA5PJL6@vms173013.mailsrvcs.net> for uupoly-l@uupa.org; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:49:17 -0500 (CDT) Received: from 137.71.23.54 ([137.71.23.54]) by vms184.mailsrvcs.net (Verizon Webmail) with HTTP; Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:49:17 -0500 (CDT) From: Scott To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Message-id: <2002870555.2948407.1248310157818.JavaMail.root@vms184.mailsrvcs.net> X-Mailer: Verizon Webmail X-Originating-IP: [137.71.23.54] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Results to date X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 00:51:01 -0000 X-Original-Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:49:17 -0500 (CDT) X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 00:51:01 -0000 First Parish in Framingham (Massachusetts). My wife and I are not "out" to the congregation. On Jul 21, 2009, Valerie White wrote: So far, 64 congregations have been named, in 31 states, including the Church of the larger Fellowship and the Church of the Younger Fellowship. Several people listed more than one congregation, and several congregations were reported by more than one respondent. California, Virginia and Massachusetts are the most mentioned states, but several of the VA congregations were listed by one respondent. This is very important information, I think. The last I heard there were 300 plus subscribers to this list . . . so how many congregations have not been reported? If 63 UU congregations have poly people in the pews JUST FROM THIS LIST, denominational leaders must sit up and take notice that we are here and we are not going away. And I know there are poly UU's who are not on this list. I know there are poly folk associated with the congregations in Medford and Salem, MA. Any more responses? _______________________________________________ The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. UUPoly-L mailing list UUPoly-L@uupa.org http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l From valerie@valeriewhite.org Thu Jul 23 06:43:46 2009 Received: from cosmos.phy.tufts.edu (cosmos.phy.tufts.edu [130.64.83.16]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6NAgei1019849 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 06:43:46 -0400 Received: from p92-11.acedsl.com ([66.114.92.11]:2693 helo=VW.valeriewhite.org) by cosmos.phy.tufts.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MTvkz-0005O9-L7 for uupoly-l@uupa.org; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 06:42:37 -0400 Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.2.20090723063901.04fb4ef8@valeriewhite.org> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 To: uupoly-l@uupa.org From: Valerie White Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: [UUPoly-L] more responses about congregations? X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 10:43:47 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 06:41:31 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 10:43:47 -0000 I've had a couple requests to have people respond to me directly . . . I rather thought it was possible to "reply to sender" rather than "reply to list" already, but I have no objection to folks knowing my email address, especially since it is that of the Sexual Freedom Legal Defense Fund (q.v.). valerie@valeriewhite.org BTW, we have 75 congregations so far. V From dhdillman@yahoo.com Thu Jul 23 14:37:03 2009 Received: from web38005.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web38005.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.124.116]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n6NIZr23027638 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 14:37:00 -0400 Received: (qmail 83062 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Jul 2009 18:35:51 -0000 Message-ID: <360903.82983.qm@web38005.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 2HkmDPEVM1n_Kgi5pdj253PKUsP1eY4sRDIrc32Xeh4iKEFCJk75zQK0ndtctgK1dOQsZGmZV.IDkq3bL3PJ8oHw_yYNrf8W.dN5wznv_yCzrD4bAbQSxobW1nqNEc39mQq_z2keBFAw7O5_cNsxZZi9PIGH43NKmRzK39tVGOXs4w2pcYCc9Ud.7jKTnerevVcUKch7bvoOBs1.9GEsTH8R0viZ4omRtKs1avftInV.d0oZ1UcCnfGT35WNOwvodO.M45eJqCu..Cn4tJiMi6iqzy7MYlaEDQGOb08ImamZKZ15I6mwzyMfM2YyM.ggk6qcYzZb5b.8_hrlw46JO9W2q8XRV4vM8DA- Received: from [76.169.21.55] by web38005.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 11:35:51 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/6.0.19 YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.15 From: Duane Dillman To: uupoly-l@uupa.org In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20090723063901.04fb4ef8@valeriewhite.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] more responses about congregations? X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 18:37:04 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 11:35:51 -0700 (PDT) X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 18:37:04 -0000 Duane H. Dillman, Los Angeles First Unitarian --- On Thu, 7/23/09, Valerie White wrote: From: Valerie White Subject: [UUPoly-L] more responses about congregations? To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Date: Thursday, July 23, 2009, 3:41 AM I've had a couple requests to have people respond to me directly . .=20 . I rather thought it was possible to "reply to sender" rather than=20 "reply to list" already, but I have no objection to folks knowing my=20 email address, especially since it is that of the Sexual Freedom=20 Legal Defense Fund (q.v.).=A0 valerie@valeriewhite.org BTW, we have 75 congregations so far. V _______________________________________________ The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. UUPoly-L mailing list UUPoly-L@uupa.org http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l =0A=0A=0A From ajcoles@gmail.com Thu Jul 23 16:24:49 2009 Received: from mail-fx0-f225.google.com (mail-fx0-f225.google.com [209.85.220.225]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6NKOhs3003968 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:24:44 -0400 Received: by fxm25 with SMTP id 25so1103383fxm.26 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 13:24:42 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.104.140 with SMTP id p12mr1391502fao.7.1248380681940; Thu, 23 Jul 2009 13:24:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Toni Coles To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Congregations X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 20:24:49 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 15:24:41 -0500 X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 20:24:49 -0000 I've been hesitating to reply because I have left the congregation I was a member of due to another matter. I still identify as UU but one presently without a congregation. The "official" stance of the congregation is that it is welcoming towards ploy & the minister openly states that. There are members who aren't accepting of poly & subtly let me know that. On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 11:00, wrote: > Send UUPoly-L mailing list submissions to > uupoly-l@uupa.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > uupoly-l-request@uupa.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > uupoly-l-owner@uupa.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of UUPoly-L digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Results to date (Mist) > 2. Re: up to 27 so far (Scott) > 3. Re: Results to date (Scott) > 4. more responses about congregations? (Valerie White) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 17:33:43 -0700 (PDT) > From: Mist > Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Results to date > To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > Message-ID: <837021.44233.qm@web112404.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > > Waiving back to you Anita -- Greetings.? Misty > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:42:19 -0500 (CDT) > From: Scott > Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far > To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > Message-ID: > < > 2123301575.2948092.1248309739257.JavaMail.root@vms184.mailsrvcs.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Is it not the case that theA decision to become a "welcoming" > congregation, and what that means in practiceA - like pretty much > everything else in UU - is up to the congregation, *not* the minister? I > am pretty sure it's not any UU minister's business to define limits for > the meaning of "welcoming congregation" for their congregation. > > The minister may have felt - or even known from experience -A that the > congregation as a whole - or influential members thereof - would not > condone polyamory. > > Sciott. > > On Jul 21, 2009, Valerie White wrote: > > At 12:20 PM 7/21/2009, Richard Torstrick wrote: > >Hello from UU of Bloomington, IN. > > > >I'm a friend of polys. I know practicing polys here, too. This is a > >"welcoming" congregation, but I learned in a conversation with a > pastor > that > >this does NOT officially extend to polys (and will not, as long as > this > >pastor is here, I gather). > > I met the co-ministers of this church at GA . . . I'm very surprised > to hear this. I didn't discuss polyamory with them, but generally > they struck me as mensches. > > V > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about > yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:49:17 -0500 (CDT) > From: Scott > Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Results to date > To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > Message-ID: > < > 2002870555.2948407.1248310157818.JavaMail.root@vms184.mailsrvcs.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > First Parish in Framingham (Massachusetts). > > My wife and I are not "out" to the congregation. > > On Jul 21, 2009, Valerie White wrote: > > So far, 64 congregations have been named, in 31 states, including the > Church of the larger Fellowship and the Church of the Younger > Fellowship. Several people listed more than one congregation, and > several congregations were reported by more than one > respondent. California, Virginia and Massachusetts are the most > mentioned states, but several of the VA congregations were listed by > one respondent. > > This is very important information, I think. The last I heard there > were 300 plus subscribers to this list . . . so how many > congregations have not been reported? If 63 UU congregations have > poly people in the pews JUST FROM THIS LIST, denominational leaders > must sit up and take notice that we are here and we are not going > away. And I know there are poly UU's who are not on this list. I > know there are poly folk associated with the congregations in Medford > and Salem, MA. > > Any more responses? > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about > yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 06:41:31 -0400 > From: Valerie White > Subject: [UUPoly-L] more responses about congregations? > To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20090723063901.04fb4ef8@valeriewhite.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > I've had a couple requests to have people respond to me directly . . > . I rather thought it was possible to "reply to sender" rather than > "reply to list" already, but I have no objection to folks knowing my > email address, especially since it is that of the Sexual Freedom > Legal Defense Fund (q.v.). valerie@valeriewhite.org > > BTW, we have 75 congregations so far. > > > > V > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > > > End of UUPoly-L Digest, Vol 58, Issue 22 > **************************************** > -- Be who your soul says you are. From info@thetemplepriestess.com Sat Jul 25 15:01:59 2009 Received: from smtpoutwbe09.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net (smtpoutwbe09.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net [208.109.78.21]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id n6PJ0qJE011313 for ; Sat, 25 Jul 2009 15:01:58 -0400 Received: (qmail 4473 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2009 18:59:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO gem-wbe29.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net) (64.202.189.163) by smtpoutwbe09.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net with SMTP; 25 Jul 2009 18:59:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 22487 invoked by uid 99); 25 Jul 2009 18:59:51 -0000 X-Originating-IP: 76.196.238.42 User-Agent: Web-Based Email 5.1.3 Message-Id: <20090725115951.c92c11acff2a13d67331a2ae35d6984a.9426a275b9.wbe@email.secureserver.net> From: info@thetemplepriestess.com To: uupoly-l@uupa.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: [UUPoly-L] .Social for poly group X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 19:01:59 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 11:59:51 -0700 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 19:01:59 -0000 Just a reminder for those in San Diego area (or those who want to drive) our quarterly poly social/game nite is August 15th, for more see here: http://www.thetemplepriestess.com/linksandresource.php. Some UU guests who attended last time met old friends from UU events/got to reconnect, it was great. So, come meet and get face-to-face support and comaraderie. Blessings, Barbara www.TheTemplePriestess.com -------- Original Message -------- Subject: UUPoly-L Digest, Vol 58, Issue 23 From: uupoly-l-request@uupa.org Date: Fri, July 24, 2009 9:00 am To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Send UUPoly-L mailing list submissions to uupoly-l@uupa.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to uupoly-l-request@uupa.org You can reach the person managing the list at uupoly-l-owner@uupa.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of UUPoly-L digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: more responses about congregations? (Duane Dillman) 2. Re: Congregations (Toni Coles) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 11:35:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Duane Dillman Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] more responses about congregations? To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Message-ID: <360903.82983.qm@web38005.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Duane H. Dillman, Los Angeles First Unitarian --- On Thu, 7/23/09, Valerie White wrote: From: Valerie White Subject: [UUPoly-L] more responses about congregations? To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Date: Thursday, July 23, 2009, 3:41 AM I've had a couple requests to have people respond to me directly . . . I rather thought it was possible to "reply to sender" rather than "reply to list" already, but I have no objection to folks knowing my email address, especially since it is that of the Sexual Freedom Legal Defense Fund (q.v.).? valerie@valeriewhite.org BTW, we have 75 congregations so far. V _______________________________________________ The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. UUPoly-L mailing list UUPoly-L@uupa.org http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 15:24:41 -0500 From: Toni Coles Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Congregations To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I've been hesitating to reply because I have left the congregation I was a member of due to another matter. I still identify as UU but one presently without a congregation. The "official" stance of the congregation is that it is welcoming towards ploy & the minister openly states that. There are members who aren't accepting of poly & subtly let me know that. On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 11:00, wrote: > Send UUPoly-L mailing list submissions to > uupoly-l@uupa.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > uupoly-l-request@uupa.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > uupoly-l-owner@uupa.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of UUPoly-L digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Results to date (Mist) > 2. Re: up to 27 so far (Scott) > 3. Re: Results to date (Scott) > 4. more responses about congregations? (Valerie White) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 17:33:43 -0700 (PDT) > From: Mist > Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Results to date > To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > Message-ID: <837021.44233.qm@web112404.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > > Waiving back to you Anita -- Greetings.? Misty > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:42:19 -0500 (CDT) > From: Scott > Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far > To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > Message-ID: > < > 2123301575.2948092.1248309739257.JavaMail.root@vms184.mailsrvcs.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Is it not the case that theA decision to become a "welcoming" > congregation, and what that means in practiceA - like pretty much > everything else in UU - is up to the congregation, *not* the minister? I > am pretty sure it's not any UU minister's business to define limits for > the meaning of "welcoming congregation" for their congregation. > > The minister may have felt - or even known from experience -A that the > congregation as a whole - or influential members thereof - would not > condone polyamory. > > Sciott. > > On Jul 21, 2009, Valerie White wrote: > > At 12:20 PM 7/21/2009, Richard Torstrick wrote: > >Hello from UU of Bloomington, IN. > > > >I'm a friend of polys. I know practicing polys here, too. This is a > >"welcoming" congregation, but I learned in a conversation with a > pastor > that > >this does NOT officially extend to polys (and will not, as long as > this > >pastor is here, I gather). > > I met the co-ministers of this church at GA . . . I'm very surprised > to hear this. I didn't discuss polyamory with them, but generally > they struck me as mensches. > > V > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about > yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 19:49:17 -0500 (CDT) > From: Scott > Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Results to date > To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > Message-ID: > < > 2002870555.2948407.1248310157818.JavaMail.root@vms184.mailsrvcs.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > First Parish in Framingham (Massachusetts). > > My wife and I are not "out" to the congregation. > > On Jul 21, 2009, Valerie White wrote: > > So far, 64 congregations have been named, in 31 states, including the > Church of the larger Fellowship and the Church of the Younger > Fellowship. Several people listed more than one congregation, and > several congregations were reported by more than one > respondent. California, Virginia and Massachusetts are the most > mentioned states, but several of the VA congregations were listed by > one respondent. > > This is very important information, I think. The last I heard there > were 300 plus subscribers to this list . . . so how many > congregations have not been reported? If 63 UU congregations have > poly people in the pews JUST FROM THIS LIST, denominational leaders > must sit up and take notice that we are here and we are not going > away. And I know there are poly UU's who are not on this list. I > know there are poly folk associated with the congregations in Medford > and Salem, MA. > > Any more responses? > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about > yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 06:41:31 -0400 > From: Valerie White > Subject: [UUPoly-L] more responses about congregations? > To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > Message-ID: <7.0.1.0.2.20090723063901.04fb4ef8@valeriewhite.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > I've had a couple requests to have people respond to me directly . . > . I rather thought it was possible to "reply to sender" rather than > "reply to list" already, but I have no objection to folks knowing my > email address, especially since it is that of the Sexual Freedom > Legal Defense Fund (q.v.). valerie@valeriewhite.org > > BTW, we have 75 congregations so far. > > > > V > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > > > End of UUPoly-L Digest, Vol 58, Issue 22 > **************************************** > -- Be who your soul says you are. ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. UUPoly-L mailing list UUPoly-L@uupa.org http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l End of UUPoly-L Digest, Vol 58, Issue 23 **************************************** From JasmineGld@aol.com Mon Jul 27 14:20:14 2009 Received: from imr-da05.mx.aol.com (imr-da05.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.147]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6RIJ4Km024153 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:20:10 -0400 Received: from imo-da04.mx.aol.com (imo-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.202]) by imr-da05.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n6RIJ0Bm006071 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:19:00 -0400 Received: from JasmineGld@aol.com by imo-da04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v40_r1.5.) id g.d22.48d04a65 (14467) for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:18:54 -0400 (EDT) From: JasmineGld@aol.com Message-ID: To: uupoly-l@uupa.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5379 X-Spam-Flag: NO Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Three GAY Guys X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:20:14 -0000 X-Original-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:18:53 EDT X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:20:14 -0000 Here's another take on the question about gay men and polyamory, from an= article on the web: "When straight people have a relationship involving more than the customary two partners, they call it =E2=80=9Cpolyamory.=E2=80=9D We don= =E2=80=99t use that term much as gay men, but we are at least as adventurous in trying out all the possibl= e combinations and permutations of relationships. If two is good, then is = three better?" Body Mind Soul Triple play by John R. Ballew Published Thursday, 23-Jul-2009 in issue 1126 http://www.gaylesbiantimes.com/?id=3D15179 Jasmine ---------------------------------------------------------------- In a message dated 7/19/2009 12:41:38 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Malanf@aol.com writes: I have been reading the UUPoly-L digest for some time and have NOT read= of any GAY polyamory. I define this as THREE GUYS living together and all= being involved with one another. **************An Excellent Credit Score is 750. See Yours in Just 2 Easy= Steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221823322x1201398723/aol?redir= =3Dhttp://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=3D668072&hmpgID=3D62= &bcd=3DJul yExcfooterNO62) From emoraine108@gmail.com Mon Jul 27 22:36:42 2009 Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.152]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id n6S2ad18026161 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 22:36:40 -0400 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id l26so622665fgb.20 for ; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 19:35:36 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.172.3 with SMTP id y3mr730193hbe.74.1248748536119; Mon, 27 Jul 2009 19:35:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <2123301575.2948092.1248309739257.JavaMail.root@vms184.mailsrvcs.net> References: <2123301575.2948092.1248309739257.JavaMail.root@vms184.mailsrvcs.net> From: Erich Moraine Message-ID: <7fb292000907271935q227f4c4y8c01eb9bedebe754@mail.gmail.com> To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] up to 27 so far X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 02:36:42 -0000 X-Original-Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 21:35:16 -0500 X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 02:36:42 -0000 My congregation just went through part of the process of becoming a welcoming congregation. There are bylaws language examples offered by the UUA but it seems that itis up to the individual congregation to decide the specific meaning and language. Erich On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 7:42 PM, Scott wrote: > Is it not the case that theA decision to become a "welcoming" > congregation, and what that means in practiceA - like pretty much > everything else in UU - is up to the congregation, *not* the minister? I > am pretty sure it's not any UU minister's business to define limits for > the meaning of "welcoming congregation" for their congregation. > > The minister may have felt - or even known from experience -A that the > congregation as a whole - or influential members thereof - would not > condone polyamory. > > Sciott. > > On Jul 21, 2009, Valerie White wrote: > > At 12:20 PM 7/21/2009, Richard Torstrick wrote: > >Hello from UU of Bloomington, IN. > > > >I'm a friend of polys. I know practicing polys here, too. This is a > >"welcoming" congregation, but I learned in a conversation with a > pastor > that > >this does NOT officially extend to polys (and will not, as long as > this > >pastor is here, I gather). > > I met the co-ministers of this church at GA . . . I'm very surprised > to hear this. I didn't discuss polyamory with them, but generally > they struck me as mensches. > > V > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep