From oppenheimerjw@gmail.com Sat Jan 2 00:09:19 2010 Received: from mail-ew0-f221.google.com (mail-ew0-f221.google.com [209.85.219.221]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o0259INn008567 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 2010 00:09:19 -0500 Received: by ewy21 with SMTP id 21so5784669ewy.2 for ; Fri, 01 Jan 2010 21:09:15 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.86.129 with SMTP id w1mr2551687wee.145.1262408955096; Fri, 01 Jan 2010 21:09:15 -0800 (PST) From: JAMES W Oppenheimer Message-ID: <327476e41001012108w29bbf79bn7488a3d57aba3a0@mail.gmail.com> To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: [UUPoly-L] Hello X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2010 05:09:19 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 00:08:55 -0500 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2010 05:09:19 -0000 Just subscribed to this list, and have not received anything thus far. Do I have to make some more adjustments, or is this list moribund? Jim Oppenheimer "Not all chemicals are bad. Without chemicals such as hydrogen and oxygen, for example, there would be no way to make water, a vital ingredient in beer." -- Dave Barry From ArthurFreeheart@aol.com Sat Jan 2 00:12:17 2010 Received: from imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (imr-ma04.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.42]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o025BAni009107 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 2010 00:12:17 -0500 Received: from imo-da04.mx.aol.com (imo-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.202]) by imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o025B5qG000404 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 2010 00:11:05 -0500 Received: from ArthurFreeheart@aol.com by imo-da04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id g.ce5.63439a6c (29678) for ; Sat, 2 Jan 2010 00:11:02 -0500 (EST) From: ArthurFreeheart@aol.com Message-ID: To: uupoly-l@uupa.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5379 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-AOL-SENDER: ArthurFreeheart@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Hello X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2010 05:12:17 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 00:11:02 EST X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2010 05:12:17 -0000 In a message dated 1/2/2010 12:09:43 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, oppenheimerjw@gmail.com writes: Just subscribed to this list, and have not received anything thus far. Do I have to make some more adjustments, or is this list moribund? let's call it...low volume. From docrudolph@gmail.com Sat Jan 2 00:13:08 2010 Received: from mail-yw0-f180.google.com (mail-yw0-f180.google.com [209.85.211.180]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o025D8K1009613 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 2010 00:13:08 -0500 Received: by ywh10 with SMTP id 10so25547619ywh.8 for ; Fri, 01 Jan 2010 21:13:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.150.165.7 with SMTP id n7mr2963353ybe.72.1262409185163; Fri, 01 Jan 2010 21:13:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from bda2694.bisx.prod.on.blackberry (bda-67-223-66-169.bise.na.blackberry.com [67.223.66.169]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 35sm6337349yxh.33.2010.01.01.21.13.04 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 01 Jan 2010 21:13:04 -0800 (PST) X-rim-org-msg-ref-id: 439041668 Message-ID: <439041668-1262409183-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-878529615-@bda213.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> X-Priority: Normal Sensitivity: Normal Importance: Normal To: uupoly-l@uupa.org From: docrudolph@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Hello X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: docrudolph@gmail.com, uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2010 05:13:08 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 05:12:58 +0000 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2010 05:13:08 -0000 It's just that some chemicals are better than others :-) Were not moribund yet. Happy New Year ------Original Message------ From: JAMES W Oppenheimer Sender: uupoly-l-bounces+docrudolph=gmail.com@uupa.org To: uupoly-l@uupa.org ReplyTo: uupoly-l@uupa.org Subject: [UUPoly-L] Hello Sent: Jan 2, 2010 00:08 Just subscribed to this list, and have not received anything thus far. Do I have to make some more adjustments, or is this list moribund? Jim Oppenheimer "Not all chemicals are bad. Without chemicals such as hydrogen and oxygen, for example, there would be no way to make water, a vital ingredient in beer." -- Dave Barry _______________________________________________ The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. UUPoly-L mailing list UUPoly-L@uupa.org http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry From cyn@technomom.com Sat Jan 2 00:18:07 2010 Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.195]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o025H00q010315 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 2010 00:18:07 -0500 Received: from mail-fx0-f222.google.com (mail-fx0-f222.google.com [209.85.220.222]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0M3QqG-1OHWuT2rzs-00r9Wo; Sat, 02 Jan 2010 00:16:55 -0500 Received: by fxm22 with SMTP id 22so16677993fxm.2 for ; Fri, 01 Jan 2010 21:16:52 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.74.144 with SMTP id u16mr17431224faj.21.1262409412161; Fri, 01 Jan 2010 21:16:52 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <327476e41001012108w29bbf79bn7488a3d57aba3a0@mail.gmail.com> References: <327476e41001012108w29bbf79bn7488a3d57aba3a0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <218ed5c51001012116o425b887dv16ad345a2fe1223c@mail.gmail.com> From: Cynthia Armistead To: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+VGOkmxtkNRbEv02b9ynaTx+8xPnHyMPGG59P Dz+V6zDBK0MJ/vNMDlxUAeaYYEU4aR/Y+uModWtmv/Gd0zcXu6 mQrVDYvQvrE255iH16LMi7+2sDen6zb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Hello X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2010 05:18:07 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 00:16:52 -0500 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2010 05:18:07 -0000 On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 12:08 AM, JAMES W Oppenheimer < oppenheimerjw@gmail.com> wrote: > Just subscribed to this list, and have not received anything thus far. Do I > have to make some more adjustments, or is this list moribund? > Welcome. Probably nothing wrong with your settings. We're just fairly quiet from time to time :-) I imagine most folks are spending time with their families and friends right now. Cyn From coolmomles@yahoo.com Sat Jan 2 13:11:40 2010 Received: from smtp122-mob.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com (smtp122-mob.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.84.225]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id o02IAYqe022975 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 2010 13:11:40 -0500 Received: (qmail 59160 invoked from network); 2 Jan 2010 18:10:33 -0000 Message-ID: <692817.58288.qm@smtp122-mob.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from mobile-032-144-213-124.mycingular.net (coolmomles@32.144.213.124 with login) by smtp122-mob.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 02 Jan 2010 10:10:30 -0800 PST X-Yahoo-SMTP: 0pjnMtaswBAcppqzrfCEvKuIA0GnO78- X-YMail-OSG: fAp_DlcVM1lYWfJ_LyS0B89SJkFS6odtgHBeYqoVldR7e7JO0Ut2Wd3suPmJn84voI_yido4Knw_faGbS1YB1cEsxNc8U_q9pNAURNj3mTsc9YTraFpIbET6vBNS6LT4cslh04Z.JY_w3lTDfgnDnc4y.i7YAfUEWYQDiDILUhozAWLwJjytadAdeJmSouI76zO7HwHRuzaMvEKXjQU2g0_IvvNdbog2JzAAhzYyEL.IcTf3GE0ubMdr9tl5CcEHed0hAodD7W8iv4bPwU.RaMol0CtUMuuyp2lw2KeV9Ff7w3bB6mIb2UMKnDxKYHw4Fw-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 MIME-Version: 1.0 content-class: From: CoolMomLes Importance: normal X-Priority: 3 To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by msb.ernest-doss.org id o02IAYqe022975 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Hello X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2010 18:11:40 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 12:10:29 -0600 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2010 18:11:40 -0000 Well HI to you,too. Now that you've received proof we are merely a bit catatonic from turkey, and not truly moribund, why not take a moment to introduce yourself to us? -----Original Message----- From: uupoly-l-request@uupa.org Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 11:00 AM To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Subject: UUPoly-L Digest, Vol 64, Issue 1 Send UUPoly-L mailing list submissions to uupoly-l@uupa.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to uupoly-l-request@uupa.org You can reach the person managing the list at uupoly-l-owner@uupa.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of UUPoly-L digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Hello (JAMES W Oppenheimer) 2. Re: Hello (ArthurFreeheart@aol.com) 3. Re: Hello (docrudolph@gmail.com) 4. Re: Hello (Cynthia Armistead) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 00:08:55 -0500 From: JAMES W Oppenheimer Subject: [UUPoly-L] Hello To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Message-ID: <327476e41001012108w29bbf79bn7488a3d57aba3a0@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Just subscribed to this list, and have not received anything thus far. Do I have to make some more adjustments, or is this list moribund? Jim Oppenheimer "Not all chemicals are bad. Without chemicals such as hydrogen and oxygen, for example, there would be no way to make water, a vital ingredient in beer." -- Dave Barry ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 00:11:02 EST From: ArthurFreeheart@aol.com Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Hello To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" In a message dated 1/2/2010 12:09:43 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, oppenheimerjw@gmail.com writes: Just subscribed to this list, and have not received anything thus far. Do I have to make some more adjustments, or is this list moribund? let's call it...low volume. ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 05:12:58 +0000 From: docrudolph@gmail.com Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Hello To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Message-ID: <439041668-1262409183-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-878529615-@bda213.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Content-Type: text/plain It's just that some chemicals are better than others :-) Were not moribund yet. Happy New Year ------Original Message------ From: JAMES W Oppenheimer Sender: uupoly-l-bounces+docrudolph=gmail.com@uupa.org To: uupoly-l@uupa.org ReplyTo: uupoly-l@uupa.org Subject: [UUPoly-L] Hello Sent: Jan 2, 2010 00:08 Just subscribed to this list, and have not received anything thus far. Do I have to make some more adjustments, or is this list moribund? Jim Oppenheimer "Not all chemicals are bad. Without chemicals such as hydrogen and oxygen, for example, there would be no way to make water, a vital ingredient in beer." -- Dave Barry _______________________________________________ The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. UUPoly-L mailing list UUPoly-L@uupa.org http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 00:16:52 -0500 From: Cynthia Armistead Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Hello To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Message-ID: <218ed5c51001012116o425b887dv16ad345a2fe1223c@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 12:08 AM, JAMES W Oppenheimer < oppenheimerjw@gmail.com> wrote: > Just subscribed to this list, and have not received anything thus far. Do I > have to make some more adjustments, or is this list moribund? > Welcome. Probably nothing wrong with your settings. We're just fairly quiet from time to time :-) I imagine most folks are spending time with their families and friends right now. Cyn ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. UUPoly-L mailing list UUPoly-L@uupa.org http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l End of UUPoly-L Digest, Vol 64, Issue 1 *************************************** From polyamorous@comcast.net Sat Jan 2 13:21:58 2010 Received: from elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.62]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o02ILwIx023935 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 2010 13:21:58 -0500 Received: from [71.230.97.237] (helo=XPVQLeeD.earthlink.net) by elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1NR8bu-0006uh-QP for uupoly-l@uupa.org; Sat, 02 Jan 2010 13:21:58 -0500 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 To: uupoly-l@uupa.org From: PolyLady In-Reply-To: <218ed5c51001012116o425b887dv16ad345a2fe1223c@mail.gmail.co m> References: <327476e41001012108w29bbf79bn7488a3d57aba3a0@mail.gmail.com> <218ed5c51001012116o425b887dv16ad345a2fe1223c@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Message-ID: X-ELNK-Trace: 79b9aec9eb97b90dd780f4a490ca6956abb457f1b4332f524e72c1eb906496b05058fc872430f1aa350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 71.230.97.237 Subject: [UUPoly-L] how were your poly holidays? X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2010 18:21:59 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2010 13:21:41 -0500 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2010 18:21:59 -0000 Since we've been so quiet, I thought I'd try and generate some discussion. I'd like to hear of the poly-holiday success stories.....perhaps how people worked things out (love to hear win-wins)........as well as the poly challenges and what might have been learned and how you might do things differently in the future. I'm a single woman who has a few partners, most at a driving distance, one not. None of my partners considers the holidays of critical importance, but some do have their own traditions, as do I. So, for us, it wasn't an issue......everyone did their usual thing of celebrating or not. I worked New Year's Day (0630 - 1930), so couldn't really go out NYE, but one partner's wife was working, so he came down to see me which was really nice and we spent the evening together at my home and I went to work and he went home after he woke up. So, while I don't have a lot to contribute on this subject, I'd like to hear from others as we reflect on our holiday time. Lee From anthony.roza@gmail.com Sat Jan 2 14:21:47 2010 Received: from ey-out-1920.google.com (ey-out-1920.google.com [74.125.78.148]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o02JLlPu028408 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 2010 14:21:47 -0500 Received: by ey-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 3so3730911eyh.16 for ; Sat, 02 Jan 2010 11:20:45 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.93.74 with SMTP id k52mr2316356wef.144.1262460044849; Sat, 02 Jan 2010 11:20:44 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <327476e41001012108w29bbf79bn7488a3d57aba3a0@mail.gmail.com> <218ed5c51001012116o425b887dv16ad345a2fe1223c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5aaa462a1001021120x70bff500w62a2da6aebe1226d@mail.gmail.com> From: Roza Anthony To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] how were your poly holidays? X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2010 19:21:47 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 14:20:44 -0500 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2010 19:21:47 -0000 My partner and I went to his parents' house for Christmas, but he went down a day before I did, so my new sweetheart got to spend the night with me at our house. As I'm not going to ask my partner to give up his bed for my new sweetheart, this doesn't get to happen much, so it was nice. Also, my sweetheart is Jewish and my partner and I are most or less atheist, so it makes the winter holidays simpler. For New Year's, I spent New year's Eve with my partner, and then New Year's Day night with my sweetheart. Roza On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 1:21 PM, PolyLady wrote: > Since we've been so quiet, I thought I'd try and generate some discussion. > > I'd like to hear of the poly-holiday success stories.....perhaps how > people worked things out (love to hear win-wins)........as well as > the poly challenges and what might have been learned and how you > might do things differently in the future. > > I'm a single woman who has a few partners, most at a driving > distance, one not. None of my partners considers the holidays of > critical importance, but some do have their own traditions, as do > I. So, for us, it wasn't an issue......everyone did their usual > thing of celebrating or not. > > I worked New Year's Day (0630 - 1930), so couldn't really go out NYE, > but one partner's wife was working, so he came down to see me which > was really nice and we spent the evening together at my home and I > went to work and he went home after he woke up. > > So, while I don't have a lot to contribute on this subject, I'd like > to hear from others as we reflect on our holiday time. > > Lee > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > From docrudolph@gmail.com Sat Jan 2 14:43:20 2010 Received: from mail-gx0-f223.google.com (mail-gx0-f223.google.com [209.85.217.223]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o02JhKcn030003 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 2010 14:43:20 -0500 Received: by gxk23 with SMTP id 23so15572154gxk.2 for ; Sat, 02 Jan 2010 11:43:16 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.109.35 with SMTP id h35mr31514989ybc.222.1262461395961; Sat, 02 Jan 2010 11:43:15 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <5aaa462a1001021120x70bff500w62a2da6aebe1226d@mail.gmail.com> References: <327476e41001012108w29bbf79bn7488a3d57aba3a0@mail.gmail.com> <218ed5c51001012116o425b887dv16ad345a2fe1223c@mail.gmail.com> <5aaa462a1001021120x70bff500w62a2da6aebe1226d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: From: Frank Rudolph To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] how were your poly holidays? X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2010 19:43:20 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 14:43:15 -0500 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2010 19:43:20 -0000 I wish I had had a lovely, love filled holiday like you folks did. Mine was OK but less of a win-win for all concerned. My wife had announced this summer that she was a lesbian and took a woman for a lover. My response to this event was to look into a poly lifestyle over the past several months. I had dabbled in it in the 70s (who didn't?) by being in a year long triad. I have been more or less mono since, because that is just how things worked out. I didn't get very far with my new investigation this past year, but was and am intrigued by the possibilities. Last week, she announced that she had broken off with her girlfriend and wants to "come home" in a non-poly capacity. I was non-plussed and still am. Life is an interesting and unpredictable thing. But we muddled through the week as good friends and (platonic) lovers and I am sitting at a cross-roads trying to figure out what is next. I have discovered that it is difficult to evaluate the pros and cons of poly by one's self. I guess that should be self-evident, shouldn't it? Anyway, it's all (relatively) good! So, Happy New Year, one and all! - Frank On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Roza Anthony wrote: > My partner and I went to his parents' house for Christmas, but he went down > a day before I did, so my new sweetheart got to spend the night with me at > our house. As I'm not going to ask my partner to give up his bed for my > new > sweetheart, this doesn't get to happen much, so it was nice. Also, my > sweetheart is Jewish and my partner and I are most or less atheist, so it > makes the winter holidays simpler. For New Year's, I spent New year's Eve > with my partner, and then New Year's Day night with my sweetheart. > Roza > > On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 1:21 PM, PolyLady wrote: > > > Since we've been so quiet, I thought I'd try and generate some > discussion. > > > > I'd like to hear of the poly-holiday success stories.....perhaps how > > people worked things out (love to hear win-wins)........as well as > > the poly challenges and what might have been learned and how you > > might do things differently in the future. > > > > I'm a single woman who has a few partners, most at a driving > > distance, one not. None of my partners considers the holidays of > > critical importance, but some do have their own traditions, as do > > I. So, for us, it wasn't an issue......everyone did their usual > > thing of celebrating or not. > > > > I worked New Year's Day (0630 - 1930), so couldn't really go out NYE, > > but one partner's wife was working, so he came down to see me which > > was really nice and we spent the evening together at my home and I > > went to work and he went home after he woke up. > > > > So, while I don't have a lot to contribute on this subject, I'd like > > to hear from others as we reflect on our holiday time. > > > > Lee > > > > _______________________________________________ > > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > > UUPoly-L mailing list > > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > From airsafe1@comcast.net Sat Jan 2 15:22:04 2010 Received: from QMTA07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.64]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o02KKvZP032626 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 2010 15:22:04 -0500 Received: from OMTA20.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.87]) by QMTA07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Qk3o1d0031smiN4A7kLrGX; Sat, 02 Jan 2010 20:20:51 +0000 Received: from DaveVostro1400 ([76.127.86.3]) by OMTA20.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id QkLq1d00B04KFes8gkLqHN; Sat, 02 Jan 2010 20:20:51 +0000 From: "David Hall" To: References: <327476e41001012108w29bbf79bn7488a3d57aba3a0@mail.gmail.com><218ed5c51001012116o425b887dv16ad345a2fe1223c@mail.gmail.com> <11376629.3919.1262456953283.JavaMail.root@n01> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcqL2XweNzCf/2EuS4WBSfJN0XqKLQADblIw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 In-Reply-To: <11376629.3919.1262456953283.JavaMail.root@n01> Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] how were your poly holidays? X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2010 20:22:04 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 12:20:46 -0800 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2010 20:22:04 -0000 I had a very poly holiday. Yule dinner with the local family when our "almost daughter" was home from med school, then off to visit with our kids, and later with our tribe. I kissed and cuddled a lot of my love's lover's lovers, in a Mistletoe rich environment. Saw the new year in, under the blue moon in our hot tub, while the neighbors were blowing off a lot of fireworks. Baked myself a wonderful pizza. All in all, a good time. The only one missing was you, Polylady. -----Original Message----- From: uupoly-l-bounces+airsafe1=comcast.net@uupa.org [mailto:uupoly-l-bounces+airsafe1=comcast.net@uupa.org] On Behalf Of PolyLady Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 10:22 AM To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Subject: [UUPoly-L] how were your poly holidays? Since we've been so quiet, I thought I'd try and generate some discussion. I'd like to hear of the poly-holiday success stories.....perhaps how people worked things out (love to hear win-wins)........as well as the poly challenges and what might have been learned and how you might do things differently in the future. I'm a single woman who has a few partners, most at a driving distance, one not. None of my partners considers the holidays of critical importance, but some do have their own traditions, as do I. So, for us, it wasn't an issue......everyone did their usual thing of celebrating or not. I worked New Year's Day (0630 - 1930), so couldn't really go out NYE, but one partner's wife was working, so he came down to see me which was really nice and we spent the evening together at my home and I went to work and he went home after he woke up. So, while I don't have a lot to contribute on this subject, I'd like to hear from others as we reflect on our holiday time. Lee _______________________________________________ The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. UUPoly-L mailing list UUPoly-L@uupa.org http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l From earthfather@cfnc.us Sat Jan 2 15:50:37 2010 Received: from vms173019pub.verizon.net (vms173019pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.19]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o02KnVna002237 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 2010 15:50:37 -0500 Received: from MVRLENOVO ([unknown] [173.79.103.23]) by vms173019.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0KVN003BP0HKZBA4@vms173019.mailsrvcs.net> for uupoly-l@uupa.org; Sat, 02 Jan 2010 14:49:02 -0600 (CST) From: "Michael Rios" To: References: <327476e41001012108w29bbf79bn7488a3d57aba3a0@mail.gmail.com> <218ed5c51001012116o425b887dv16ad345a2fe1223c@mail.gmail.com> <5aaa462a1001021120x70bff500w62a2da6aebe1226d@mail.gmail.com> Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-index: AcqL498UUH9s/XlyQ26XCQyfZcgAbgABQ4Kw X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 In-reply-to: Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] how were your poly holidays? X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2010 20:50:37 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2010 15:48:32 -0500 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2010 20:50:37 -0000 This may be obvious, but it might make things easier if your relationship options weren't framed in terms of "poly" or "not-poly". What seems clear is that for your wife, at least, and possibly for both of you, things are unclear and unsettled. If you take the perspective that you both love each other, and want to be supportive of each other in your explorations, then no one has to "choose up sides", and you can avoid taking on any label at all, whether it be "poly", "monogamous", "lesbian", "bisexual", "straight", or whatever. So taking the perspective of being open to whatever seems worth exploring at the time, as long as you are both open and honest with each other, can relieve a lot of the stress and anxiety. This attitude, for me, is captured in this Calvin and Hobbes comic strip: http://www.s-anand.net/calvinandhobbes.html#19951231 Michael Rios > -----Original Message----- > From: Frank Rudolph > > I wish I had had a lovely, love filled holiday like you folks > did. Mine was OK but less of a win-win for all concerned. My > wife had announced this summer that she was a lesbian and > took a woman for a lover. My response to this event was to > look into a poly lifestyle over the past several months. I > had dabbled in it in the 70s (who didn't?) by being in a year > long triad. I have been more or less mono since, because that > is just how things worked out. I didn't get very far with my > new investigation this past year, but was and am intrigued by > the possibilities. Last week, she announced that she had > broken off with her girlfriend and wants to "come home" in a > non-poly capacity. I was non-plussed and still am. Life is an > interesting and unpredictable thing. But we muddled through > the week as good friends and > (platonic) lovers and I am sitting at a cross-roads trying to > figure out what is next. I have discovered that it is > difficult to evaluate the pros and cons of poly by one's > self. I guess that should be self-evident, shouldn't it? > > Anyway, it's all (relatively) good! So, Happy New Year, one and all! From aine.maire@gmail.com Sat Jan 2 16:16:01 2010 Received: from mail-iw0-f185.google.com (mail-iw0-f185.google.com [209.85.223.185]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o02LG19B004569 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 2010 16:16:01 -0500 Received: by iwn15 with SMTP id 15so9077651iwn.10 for ; Sat, 02 Jan 2010 13:16:00 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.120.84 with SMTP id c20mr4016543ibr.47.1262466960164; Sat, 02 Jan 2010 13:16:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <327476e41001012108w29bbf79bn7488a3d57aba3a0@mail.gmail.com> <218ed5c51001012116o425b887dv16ad345a2fe1223c@mail.gmail.com> From: aine.maire@gmail.com Message-ID: <80de162a1001021315g108529edgf85e6249dc7c8a52@mail.gmail.com> To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] how were your poly holidays? X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2010 21:16:02 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 16:15:40 -0500 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2010 21:16:02 -0000 My boyfriend of two years and I just had this discussion about how with an extended poly family, the holidays just go on...and on...and on... This morning, I helped him prepare for his trip to his other girlfriend's house 90 miles away, Christmas presents to her in tow. I work one Sunday a month, so he spends the night before with her, so I have some time to myself and to study my schoolwork. She had spent New Years Eve with her other partner. We also all saw each other a few times during the holidays with other mutual friends. If my attempts at building another relationship this year had been successful, boyfriend and I would have had to make time not only for each other, our biological families, his girlfriend and her girlfriend, we would have thrown in my other boyfriend, his biological family, and his longtime girlfriend into the mix. One of the gifts I gave to my boyfriend this holiday season was a daily planner. I think it's appropriate. Annie:) On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 13:21, PolyLady wrote: > Since we've been so quiet, I thought I'd try and generate some discussion. > > I'd like to hear of the poly-holiday success stories.....perhaps how > people worked things out (love to hear win-wins)........as well as > the poly challenges and what might have been learned and how you > might do things differently in the future. > > I'm a single woman who has a few partners, most at a driving > distance, one not. None of my partners considers the holidays of > critical importance, but some do have their own traditions, as do > I. So, for us, it wasn't an issue......everyone did their usual > thing of celebrating or not. > > I worked New Year's Day (0630 - 1930), so couldn't really go out NYE, > but one partner's wife was working, so he came down to see me which > was really nice and we spent the evening together at my home and I > went to work and he went home after he woke up. > > So, while I don't have a lot to contribute on this subject, I'd like > to hear from others as we reflect on our holiday time. > > Lee > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > From earthfather@cfnc.us Sat Jan 2 16:39:40 2010 Received: from vms173019pub.verizon.net (vms173019pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.19]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o02LcXlZ006443 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 2010 16:39:40 -0500 Received: from MVRLENOVO ([unknown] [173.79.103.23]) by vms173019.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0KVN002JB2RGU4Q1@vms173019.mailsrvcs.net> for uupoly-l@uupa.org; Sat, 02 Jan 2010 15:38:04 -0600 (CST) From: "Michael Rios" To: References: <327476e41001012108w29bbf79bn7488a3d57aba3a0@mail.gmail.com> <218ed5c51001012116o425b887dv16ad345a2fe1223c@mail.gmail.com> <80de162a1001021315g108529edgf85e6249dc7c8a52@mail.gmail.com> Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-index: AcqL8M4ekXdEEyYeSuqCLOpbqfFbZQAAWQrQ X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 In-reply-to: <80de162a1001021315g108529edgf85e6249dc7c8a52@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] how were your poly holidays? X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2010 21:39:42 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2010 16:37:40 -0500 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2010 21:39:42 -0000 The post below reminds me of a favorite poly joke: "Why didn't polyamory emerge until the second half of the 20th century?" "It had to wait for the invention of the Day-Planner." :-) Michael Rios > -----Original Message----- > From: aine.maire@gmail.comdays? > > My boyfriend of two years and I just had this discussion > about how with an extended poly family, the holidays just go > on...and on...and on... > > This morning, I helped him prepare for his trip to his other > girlfriend's house 90 miles away, Christmas presents to her > in tow. I work one Sunday a month, so he spends the night > before with her, so I have some time to myself and to study > my schoolwork. She had spent New Years Eve with her other partner. > > We also all saw each other a few times during the holidays > with other mutual friends. If my attempts at building another > relationship this year had been successful, boyfriend and I > would have had to make time not only for each other, our > biological families, his girlfriend and her girlfriend, we > would have thrown in my other boyfriend, his biological > family, and his longtime girlfriend into the mix. > > One of the gifts I gave to my boyfriend this holiday season > was a daily planner. I think it's appropriate. > > Annie:) From dpagano@igc.org Sat Jan 2 17:17:43 2010 Received: from elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.63]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o02MHhgN009526 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 2010 17:17:43 -0500 Received: from [209.86.224.65] (helo=wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net) by elasmtp-junco.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1NRCHZ-000284-HJ; Sat, 02 Jan 2010 17:17:13 -0500 Received: from 66.92.3.107 by webmail.c.earthlink.net with HTTP; Sat, 2 Jan 2010 17:16:47 -0500 Message-ID: <16076105.1262470607874.JavaMail.root@wamui-june.atl.sa.earthlink.net> From: Darlene Pagano To: earthfather@cfnc.us, uupoly-l@uupa.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: 39a82346d7ceb269f84080ff3e30f22c22316dc28378ab5064f2cf3ecd48789b350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.65 Subject: [UUPoly-L] thanks for the reminder X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: Darlene Pagano , uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2010 22:17:43 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 17:16:47 -0500 (EST) X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2010 22:17:43 -0000 Thanks for the reminder of this strip Michael. I just tacked it on to the end of tomorrow's Order of Service, which is NOT on poly, but is our Association Sunday where we remember we are one of 1000+ other congregations attempting to live out our values. I'd say that could be considered a loving and (mostly) platonic poly network relationship. Darlene From: "Michael Rios" Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] how were your poly holidays? So taking the perspective of being open to whatever seems worth exploring at the time, as long as you are both open and honest with each other, can relieve a lot of the stress and anxiety. This attitude, for me, is captured in this Calvin and Hobbes comic strip: http://www.s-anand.net/calvinandhobbes.html#19951231 Michael Rios ea visit the website of ColorLines magazine www.colorlines.com From jens207@gmail.com Sat Jan 2 21:04:02 2010 Received: from mail-qy0-f177.google.com (mail-qy0-f177.google.com [209.85.221.177]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o0323vSN022472 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 2010 21:03:59 -0500 Received: by qyk7 with SMTP id 7so6105396qyk.10 for ; Sat, 02 Jan 2010 18:03:55 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.31.6 with SMTP id w6mr7327881qac.34.1262484235011; Sat, 02 Jan 2010 18:03:55 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <327476e41001012108w29bbf79bn7488a3d57aba3a0@mail.gmail.com> <218ed5c51001012116o425b887dv16ad345a2fe1223c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <350b0c2a1001021803m2d0a27b5t3b61653fc829f56b@mail.gmail.com> From: Jens Wennberg To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] how were your poly holidays? X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2010 02:04:08 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 21:03:54 -0500 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2010 02:04:08 -0000 Happy New Year all: I / we continue to explore new ground in our relationships. A year ago Sylvia, my Other Significant Other, came to New York City and had Christmas dinner with my wife and our friends there. This year we have moved back to Ithaca New York and she came to visit us here from Boston and join in our community Solstice Celebration. This was the first time she has met all of our "real community". Some of them know about Sylvia and others do not. On Sunday we went to church. I introduced her to the minister as my friend Sylvia - he politely shook her hand - then I said this is my other significant other - he took her in both of his hands and said he was so glad to meet her. We will have to talk again soon. Peace and Joy Jens On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 1:21 PM, PolyLady wrote: > Since we've been so quiet, I thought I'd try and generate some discussion. > > I'd like to hear of the poly-holiday success stories.....perhaps how > people worked things out (love to hear win-wins)........as well as > the poly challenges and what might have been learned and how you > might do things differently in the future. > > I'm a single woman who has a few partners, most at a driving > distance, one not. None of my partners considers the holidays of > critical importance, but some do have their own traditions, as do > I. So, for us, it wasn't an issue......everyone did their usual > thing of celebrating or not. > > I worked New Year's Day (0630 - 1930), so couldn't really go out NYE, > but one partner's wife was working, so he came down to see me which > was really nice and we spent the evening together at my home and I > went to work and he went home after he woke up. > > So, while I don't have a lot to contribute on this subject, I'd like > to hear from others as we reflect on our holiday time. > > Lee > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > From anthony.roza@gmail.com Sun Jan 3 12:06:46 2010 Received: from ey-out-1920.google.com (ey-out-1920.google.com [74.125.78.146]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o03H6kVu017754 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 2010 12:06:46 -0500 Received: by ey-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 3so3862653eyh.16 for ; Sun, 03 Jan 2010 09:05:43 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.90.139 with SMTP id e11mr612513wef.111.1262538343483; Sun, 03 Jan 2010 09:05:43 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <327476e41001012108w29bbf79bn7488a3d57aba3a0@mail.gmail.com> <218ed5c51001012116o425b887dv16ad345a2fe1223c@mail.gmail.com> <80de162a1001021315g108529edgf85e6249dc7c8a52@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5aaa462a1001030905l2ae17050g9ae0c123ffc67769@mail.gmail.com> From: Roza Anthony To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] how were your poly holidays? X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2010 17:06:46 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 12:05:43 -0500 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2010 17:06:46 -0000 Thank you, Lee, for starting this conversation. It's been fun reading the different things people did this past week or so. Michael, that's an amazing joke! I love it! And so true. Getting the three schedules I deal with to coordinate is frequently an interesting discussion. Roza On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 4:37 PM, Michael Rios wrote: > The post below reminds me of a favorite poly joke: > > > "Why didn't polyamory emerge until the second half of the 20th century?" > > "It had to wait for the invention of the Day-Planner." > > :-) > > Michael Rios > From FlyRod52@aol.com Sun Jan 3 19:37:03 2010 Received: from imr-da05.mx.aol.com (imr-da05.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.147]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o040ZvXH010086 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 2010 19:37:03 -0500 Received: from imo-da04.mx.aol.com (imo-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.202]) by imr-da05.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o040ZokM016584 for ; Sun, 3 Jan 2010 19:35:50 -0500 Received: from FlyRod52@aol.com by imo-da04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id g.c04.753d0d41 (45279) for ; Sun, 3 Jan 2010 19:35:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtprly-de02.mx.aol.com (smtprly-de02.mx.aol.com [205.188.249.169]) by cia-mc04.mx.aol.com (v127.7) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMC041-b23f4b4137dd23; Sun, 03 Jan 2010 19:35:45 -0500 Received: from magic-m06.mail.aol.com (magic-m06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.2]) by smtprly-de02.mx.aol.com (v127.7) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYDE028-b23f4b4137dd23; Sun, 03 Jan 2010 19:35:41 -0500 From: flyrod52@aol.com Message-ID: To: uupoly-l@uupa.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5378 X-AOL-ORIG-IP: 74.130.8.252 X-AOL-IP: 172.20.29.2 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-AOL-SENDER: FlyRod52@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] how were your poly holidays? X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2010 00:37:04 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 19:35:41 EST X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2010 00:37:04 -0000 In a message dated 1/3/2010 12:18:01 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, anthony.roza@gmail.com writes: Thank you, Lee, for starting this conversation. It's been fun reading the different things people did this past week or so. Michael, that's an amazing joke! I love it! And so true. Getting the three schedules I deal with to coordinate is frequently an interesting discussion. Roza I agree whole heartedly! Calendars are an essential poly survival tool. Where I work, I have to bid on my vacation for the entire next year in December of the preceding year. I have to bump my calendar against Jas' calendar and coordinate with my other love and her hubby. On top of all that, I have ADD and a very slippery memory. I'd go insane without my calendar. (Heck! I have trouble remembering which week is recycling week.) Rodney On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 4:37 PM, Michael Rios wrote: > The post below reminds me of a favorite poly joke: > > > "Why didn't polyamory emerge until the second half of the 20th century?" > > "It had to wait for the invention of the Day-Planner." > > :-) > > Michael Rios From stargazngal@yahoo.com Mon Jan 4 06:16:46 2010 Received: from web45204.mail.sp1.yahoo.com (web45204.mail.sp1.yahoo.com [68.180.197.77]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id o04BFdsE014845 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2010 06:16:46 -0500 Received: (qmail 19495 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Jan 2010 11:15:39 -0000 Message-ID: <944590.19362.qm@web45204.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: VBXfl_kVM1nSn12Vizzp8MdNUcfWlhwkPsdMZeMauTNi5TJobXN1E7NkIJO2Nm.AXFRByVdXWts5sXe9N_7mfSGGmtFcpkSzNYBWLTygwFdtZdxFVrFTHHzKkJo2zPeh8dL77vmQF4a9MSt3twC3kqlsdlhj5HgAtxSZ7PN11w6F0h37HFiJmHQFKN2zJRZ5E35JSujj8toXMqn8_oeGSDUbc4mbxgzJtT4Cvwf4Km_QVSTF8JkkpGEHx9uxiOlneUnymbj54AIxiz7GuDCPjkSyrQncS_QrKm.v7v9Gv.AoCah0hF4sQXsyKpt0AK_yZPMmfvxYeNq1LgPfFTbkpUAYZGx7Yc7fZJH997ghvp0ciy_Ob514n8xOYks2Im_nOqeVI0YvU3n1iOC7pYMzB.fnIngVOUU5 Received: from [97.73.64.166] by web45204.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 04 Jan 2010 03:15:38 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/9.0.20 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 From: stargazngal To: uupoly-l@uupa.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] how were your poly holidays? X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2010 11:16:46 -0000 X-Original-Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 03:15:38 -0800 (PST) X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2010 11:16:46 -0000 I didn't see my bf much over the holidays.=A0 Hubby and I were able to atte= nd a small gathering at his house the Sunday after Christmas.=A0 His wife a= nd I are becoming closer freinds, so it was nice to spend time with her.=A0= I met her mother too.=A0 I knew our time would be limited, with him 2 hour= s away from me, but=A0 I handled it much better than last year when I cried= my eyes out a few times, lol.=A0 It's amazing how much "poly growth" I exp= erienced in 2009.=A0=A0 I've learned to live more in the moment and not to = have expectations.=A0 I was just grateful I could spend time eating cookies= and sipping wine with=A0 his wife and watch an Eagles game with him (helps= that they won, lol). =A0 Wishing everyone a happy, healthly poly-filled 2010! =A0 stargazngal =A0 =A0 --- On Sat, 1/2/10, PolyLady wrote: From: PolyLady Subject: [UUPoly-L] how were your poly holidays? To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Date: Saturday, January 2, 2010, 1:21 PM Since we've been so quiet, I thought I'd try and generate some discussion. I'd like to hear of the poly-holiday success stories.....perhaps how=20 people worked things out (love to hear win-wins)........as well as=20 the poly challenges and what might have been learned and how you=20 might do things differently in the future. I'm a single woman who has a few partners, most at a driving=20 distance, one not.=A0 None of my partners considers the holidays of=20 critical importance, but some do have their own traditions, as do=20 I.=A0 So, for us, it wasn't an issue......everyone did their usual=20 thing of celebrating or not. I worked New Year's Day (0630 - 1930), so couldn't really go out NYE,=20 but one partner's wife was working, so he came down to see me which=20 was really nice and we spent the evening together at my home and I=20 went to work and he went home after he woke up. So, while I don't have a lot to contribute on this subject, I'd like=20 to hear from others as we reflect on our holiday time. Lee _______________________________________________ The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. UUPoly-L mailing list UUPoly-L@uupa.org http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l =0A=0A=0A From mnstrm@erosong.net Mon Jan 4 10:50:45 2010 Received: from mail-px0-f195.google.com (mail-px0-f195.google.com [209.85.216.195]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o04FojtA031849 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2010 10:50:45 -0500 Received: by pxi33 with SMTP id 33so10293010pxi.10 for ; Mon, 04 Jan 2010 07:50:44 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.140.87.41 with SMTP id k41mr1817414rvb.37.1262620244714; Mon, 04 Jan 2010 07:50:44 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <944590.19362.qm@web45204.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <944590.19362.qm@web45204.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: From: Moonstorm Erosong To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] how were your poly holidays? X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2010 15:50:46 -0000 X-Original-Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 07:50:44 -0800 X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2010 15:50:46 -0000 We had a very busy but delightful poly holiday season. We had 50 people from the Seattle poly/pagan/sex-positive community at our house for Thanksgiving dinner, and 80 people for our Tree Trimming Party on the first Saturday of December. Then on the 25th our closest tribemates were with us for brunch, gift exchange, and dinner. Then there was our Mistletoe Ritual on 12/27, New Year's Day breakfast at our favorite organic restaurant, and on 1/2 there was a tribe movie outing when we saw Sherlock Holmes and Avatar. I live in a 5 person poly household in the Seattle suburbs, and we are an open household with each of us having lovers and friends outside the household who make up our "tribe" within the larger poly community here in this wonderful city. Hooray for intimate networks! Blessings to all, 'Storm From kyttewynpeny@gmail.com Mon Jan 4 11:01:23 2010 Received: from mail-yx0-f201.google.com (mail-yx0-f201.google.com [209.85.210.201]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o04G1MkB000418 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2010 11:01:22 -0500 Received: by yxe39 with SMTP id 39so3936321yxe.8 for ; Mon, 04 Jan 2010 08:01:20 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.243.30 with SMTP id q30mr32610588anh.121.1262620880417; Mon, 04 Jan 2010 08:01:20 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <944590.19362.qm@web45204.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: From: Barbara Allen To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] how were your poly holidays? X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2010 16:01:23 -0000 X-Original-Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 10:01:20 -0600 X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2010 16:01:23 -0000 Hello, I had a lovely holiday with my poly family. We get together and celebrate Solstice every year before we depart to our family-by-blood gatherings. I love that we can do this every year and have "our" holiday together. As for calendars - I absolutely LOVE the Google calendar. There is a "family" calendar we all have access to and then our own personal calenders we can also see. You don't need to have a gmail in order to use that function. :) It makes planning things MUCH easier! LOL! Ta! -Kytte/Babs On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Moonstorm Erosong wrote: > We had a very busy but delightful poly holiday season. We had 50 people > from the Seattle poly/pagan/sex-positive community at our house for > Thanksgiving dinner, and 80 people for our Tree Trimming Party on the first > Saturday of December. Then on the 25th our closest tribemates were with us > for brunch, gift exchange, and dinner. Then there was our Mistletoe Ritual > on 12/27, New Year's Day breakfast at our favorite organic restaurant, and > on 1/2 there was a tribe movie outing when we saw Sherlock Holmes and > Avatar. > > I live in a 5 person poly household in the Seattle suburbs, and we are an > open household with each of us having lovers and friends outside the > household who make up our "tribe" within the larger poly community here in > this wonderful city. > > Hooray for intimate networks! > > Blessings to all, > > 'Storm > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > From ejjabla@comcast.net Mon Jan 4 11:12:00 2010 Received: from QMTA11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.211]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o04GAr6l001568 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2010 11:12:00 -0500 Received: from OMTA16.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.72]) by QMTA11.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id RTWy1d0071ZMdJ4ABU6FH3; Mon, 04 Jan 2010 16:06:15 +0000 Received: from edddb5c91ad5a7 ([24.2.36.91]) by OMTA16.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id RUCp1d00G1xz6Eo8cUCpcJ; Mon, 04 Jan 2010 16:12:50 +0000 Message-ID: From: "Ed Blanchette" To: References: <944590.19362.qm@web45204.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] how were your poly holidays? X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2010 16:12:00 -0000 X-Original-Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 08:10:52 -0800 X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2010 16:12:00 -0000 I'm curious, what is a "Mistletoe Ritual"? Lucky you, Storm. In 2009 poly, for me, went from a philosophical concept to a reality. Unfortunately one of my beloved ladies does not believe in poly and the other found our 30 year age difference too great (I'm 77). Still, even with those obstacles it is glorious to still be in love - with both of them. Ed Citrus Hts. (Sacramento County) A UU since 1972 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Moonstorm Erosong" To: Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 7:50 AM Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] how were your poly holidays? > (snip) > ...Then there was our Mistletoe Ritual on 12/27,... > (snip) > Hooray for intimate networks! > > Blessings to all, > > 'Storm From airsafe1@comcast.net Sat Jan 9 01:41:10 2010 Received: from qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.227]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o096e4X4004379 for ; Sat, 9 Jan 2010 01:41:10 -0500 Received: from omta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.27]) by qmta12.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id TJNH1d0010b6N64ACJfwnh; Sat, 09 Jan 2010 06:39:56 +0000 Received: from DaveVostro1400 ([76.127.86.3]) by omta03.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id TJfv1d00504KFes8PJfwXY; Sat, 09 Jan 2010 06:39:56 +0000 From: "David Hall" To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcqQ9oy532ge08/dR5KewMkvgXHJ8A== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: [UUPoly-L] UUPA financial status X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 09 Jan 2010 06:41:11 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 22:39:53 -0800 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jan 2010 06:41:11 -0000 Hello all you great poly folk. I need to let you know that UUPA has only received a few renewals for 2010 and even fewer new members. We do not have enough assets to pay for the next ad in UUWorld. Please go to www.uupa.org and renew/join/donate to keep our work moving on. Thanks David Hall, Treasurer. From fantine@sonic.net Sat Jan 9 03:00:25 2010 Received: from b.mail.sonic.net (b.mail.sonic.net [64.142.19.5]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o097xIER008797 for ; Sat, 9 Jan 2010 03:00:25 -0500 Received: from FLOGGER3000 (75-101-18-7.dsl.static.sonic.net [75.101.18.7]) by b.mail.sonic.net (8.13.8.Beta0-Sonic/8.13.7) with ESMTP id o097xIiW030414 for ; Fri, 8 Jan 2010 23:59:18 -0800 From: "Fantine" To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6856 Importance: Normal Thread-Index: AcqQ9oy532ge08/dR5KewMkvgXHJ8AACv/NA In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by msb.ernest-doss.org id o097xIER008797 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] UUPA financial status X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 09 Jan 2010 08:00:28 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 23:59:11 -0800 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jan 2010 08:00:28 -0000 Well I tried but I messed up the turing test 'Cesca -----Original Message----- From: uupoly-l-bounces+fantine=sonic.net@uupa.org [mailto:uupoly-l-bounces+fantine=sonic.net@uupa.org] On Behalf Of David Hall Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 10:40 PM To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Subject: [UUPoly-L] UUPA financial status Hello all you great poly folk. I need to let you know that UUPA has only received a few renewals for 2010 and even fewer new members. We do not have enough assets to pay for the next ad in UUWorld. Please go to www.uupa.org and renew/join/donate to keep our work moving on. Thanks David Hall, Treasurer. _______________________________________________ The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. UUPoly-L mailing list UUPoly-L@uupa.org http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l From JasmineGld@aol.com Sat Jan 9 11:12:31 2010 Received: from imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (imr-ma06.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.142]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o09GBPnU004520 for ; Sat, 9 Jan 2010 11:12:31 -0500 Received: from imo-da02.mx.aol.com (imo-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.200]) by imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o09GBKwI027751 for ; Sat, 9 Jan 2010 11:11:21 -0500 Received: from JasmineGld@aol.com by imo-da02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id g.d65.45764e3b (37546) for ; Sat, 9 Jan 2010 11:11:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtprly-dc03.mx.aol.com (smtprly-dc03.mx.aol.com [205.188.170.3]) by cia-mb02.mx.aol.com (v127.7) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMB027-d3a34b48aaa15a; Sat, 09 Jan 2010 11:11:16 -0500 Received: from magic-m27.mail.aol.com (magic-m27.mail.aol.com [172.20.22.200]) by smtprly-dc03.mx.aol.com (v127.7) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYDC033-d3a34b48aaa15a; Sat, 09 Jan 2010 11:11:13 -0500 From: jasminegld@aol.com Message-ID: <10818.280a58d2.387a04a1@aol.com> To: uupoly-l@uupa.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5379 X-AOL-ORIG-IP: 74.130.8.252 X-AOL-IP: 172.20.22.200 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-AOL-SENDER: JasmineGld@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] UUPA financial status X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 09 Jan 2010 16:12:32 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 11:11:13 EST X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jan 2010 16:12:32 -0000 UUPA members and supporters can print the member/donation form and send it through the mail, if you have trouble with the online form or if you'd prefer to use the hard copy. pdf and html versions are on the website for printing. _http://uupa.org/join.htm_ (http://uupa.org/join.htm) Jasmine Walston, Secretary From emoraine108@gmail.com Sat Jan 9 11:25:40 2010 Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.159]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o09GPdhE006614 for ; Sat, 9 Jan 2010 11:25:39 -0500 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id e12so118007fga.2 for ; Sat, 09 Jan 2010 08:24:37 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.177.211 with SMTP id w19mr1951982hbf.162.1263054277118; Sat, 09 Jan 2010 08:24:37 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <10818.280a58d2.387a04a1@aol.com> References: <10818.280a58d2.387a04a1@aol.com> From: Erich Moraine Message-ID: <7fb292001001090824s69c700dfp6c7bf526b681dc0@mail.gmail.com> To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] UUPA financial status X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 09 Jan 2010 16:25:40 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 10:24:17 -0600 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jan 2010 16:25:40 -0000 I just renewed my membership. Thanks for the reminder. Erich Moraine On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 10:11 AM, wrote: > > > > UUPA members and supporters can print the member/donation form and send it > through the mail, if you have trouble with the online form or if you'd > prefer to use the hard copy. pdf and html versions are on the website for > printing. > > _http://uupa.org/join.htm_ (http://uupa.org/join.htm) > > Jasmine Walston, Secretary > > > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > From LykinsG@aol.com Sat Jan 9 12:28:27 2010 Received: from imr-mb02.mx.aol.com (imr-mb02.mx.aol.com [64.12.207.163]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o09HRK8E011848 for ; Sat, 9 Jan 2010 12:28:27 -0500 Received: from imo-da02.mx.aol.com (imo-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.200]) by imr-mb02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o09HRK9I020829 for ; Sat, 9 Jan 2010 12:27:20 -0500 Received: from LykinsG@aol.com by imo-da02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id g.c8d.5c7b64e3 (43893) for ; Sat, 9 Jan 2010 12:27:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtprly-mc01.mx.aol.com (smtprly-mc01.mx.aol.com [64.12.95.97]) by cia-dc05.mx.aol.com (v127.7) with ESMTP id MAILCIADC056-d3cc4b48bc65346; Sat, 09 Jan 2010 12:27:15 -0500 Received: from webmail-m091 (webmail-m091.sim.aol.com [64.12.102.41]) by smtprly-mc01.mx.aol.com (v127.7) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYMC016-d3cc4b48bc65346; Sat, 09 Jan 2010 12:27:01 -0500 References: To: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-AOL-IP: 71.237.103.212 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Kathy Partridge X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 30361-STANDARD Received: from 71.237.103.212 by webmail-m091.sysops.aol.com (64.12.102.41) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 09 Jan 2010 12:26:59 -0500 Message-Id: <8CC5F68157A68D5-1E1C-11694@webmail-m091.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag: NO X-AOL-SENDER: LykinsG@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] UUPA financial status X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 09 Jan 2010 17:28:27 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 09 Jan 2010 12:27:01 -0500 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jan 2010 17:28:27 -0000 HI Dave and UUPA folks, My dues and donation through paypal went through fine. Even though I'm no= t active, I want to continue supporting UUPA, and offer gratitude to folks= like Dave who keep this going. The UU World ad was a life changer for me= .... Standing on the side of love, Kathy essage: 1 ate: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 22:39:53 -0800 rom: "David Hall" ubject: [UUPoly-L] UUPA financial status o: essage-ID: ontent-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii" Hello all you great poly folk. I need to let you know that UUPA has only eceived a few renewals for 2010 and even fewer new members. We do not have nough assets to pay for the next ad in UUWorld. Please go to www.uupa.org nd renew/join/donate to keep our work moving on. hanks avid Hall, Treasurer. From mnstrm@erosong.net Sat Jan 9 12:31:05 2010 Received: from mail-yw0-f180.google.com (mail-yw0-f180.google.com [209.85.211.180]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o09HV5js012514 for ; Sat, 9 Jan 2010 12:31:05 -0500 Received: by ywh10 with SMTP id 10so31280313ywh.8 for ; Sat, 09 Jan 2010 09:31:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.100.17.2 with SMTP id 2mr6143053anq.56.1263058262061; Sat, 09 Jan 2010 09:31:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from draco (c-98-247-39-6.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [98.247.39.6]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 15sm11237510gxk.4.2010.01.09.09.31.00 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 09 Jan 2010 09:31:00 -0800 (PST) From: "Moonstorm Erosong" To: References: <10818.280a58d2.387a04a1@aol.com> <7fb292001001090824s69c700dfp6c7bf526b681dc0@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <7fb292001001090824s69c700dfp6c7bf526b681dc0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <003401ca9151$80052600$800f7200$@net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 thread-index: AcqRSGYXxbr3x3BGReioNfAwYuskyAACJrIQ Content-Language: en-us Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] UUPA financial status X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 09 Jan 2010 17:31:05 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 09:30:53 -0800 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jan 2010 17:31:05 -0000 Thank you Erich! UUPA is doing valuable and effective work for all of us, and the more members and money we have, the more effective we can be. Blessings, 'Storm -----Original Message----- From: uupoly-l-bounces+mnstrm=erosong.net@uupa.org [mailto:uupoly-l-bounces+mnstrm=erosong.net@uupa.org] On Behalf Of Erich Moraine Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 8:24 AM To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] UUPA financial status I just renewed my membership. Thanks for the reminder. Erich Moraine On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 10:11 AM, wrote: > > > > UUPA members and supporters can print the member/donation form and send it > through the mail, if you have trouble with the online form or if you'd > prefer to use the hard copy. pdf and html versions are on the website for > printing. > > _http://uupa.org/join.htm_ (http://uupa.org/join.htm) > > Jasmine Walston, Secretary > > > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > _______________________________________________ The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. UUPoly-L mailing list UUPoly-L@uupa.org http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l From alanmacrobert@gmail.com Sat Jan 9 13:37:51 2010 Received: from mail-px0-f195.google.com (mail-px0-f195.google.com [209.85.216.195]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o09IbpMw018042 for ; Sat, 9 Jan 2010 13:37:51 -0500 Received: by pxi33 with SMTP id 33so2021730pxi.10 for ; Sat, 09 Jan 2010 10:37:49 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: alanmacrobert@gmail.com Received: by 10.142.74.9 with SMTP id w9mr3698364wfa.217.1263062269056; Sat, 09 Jan 2010 10:37:49 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Sender-Auth: c45d9d64ca6a74a1 Message-ID: From: alan7388 To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by msb.ernest-doss.org id o09IbpMw018042 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] UUPA financial status X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 09 Jan 2010 18:37:52 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 13:37:49 -0500 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jan 2010 18:37:52 -0000 I tried to make a donation and renewal online via the membership form, http://www.uupa.org/forms/memberform.htm ...and got this error message: ----------------------- An error occurred while processing the form . The staff at uupa.org have been alerted to the error . uupa.org apologizes for any inconvenience this error may have caused. ----------------------- I've tried several times, and I can't find anything wrong (except that the instructions to Control-click on some selections seems to be broken. I'm using Firefox). Can you fix the form, and tell us when it's fixed and working? Maybe this is why you're getting few renewals. Alan M. On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 12:00 PM, wrote: > Send UUPoly-L mailing list submissions to >        uupoly-l@uupa.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >        http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >        uupoly-l-request@uupa.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at >        uupoly-l-owner@uupa.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of UUPoly-L digest..." > > Today's Topics: > >   1. UUPA financial status (David Hall) >   2. Re: UUPA financial status (Fantine) >   3. Re: UUPA financial status (jasminegld@aol.com) >   4. Re: UUPA financial status (Erich Moraine) > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "David Hall" > To:  > Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 22:39:53 -0800 > Subject: [UUPoly-L] UUPA financial status > Hello all you great poly folk. I need to let you know that UUPA has only > received a few renewals for 2010 and even fewer new members. We do not have > enough assets to pay for the next ad in UUWorld. Please go to www.uupa.org > and renew/join/donate to keep our work moving on. > > Thanks > > David Hall, Treasurer. > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Fantine" > To:  > Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 23:59:11 -0800 > Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] UUPA financial status > Well I tried but I messed up the turing test > >        'Cesca > > -----Original Message----- > From: uupoly-l-bounces+fantine=sonic.net@uupa.org > [mailto:uupoly-l-bounces+fantine=sonic.net@uupa.org] On > Behalf Of David Hall > Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 10:40 PM > To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > Subject: [UUPoly-L] UUPA financial status > > Hello all you great poly folk. I need to let you know > that UUPA has only > received a few renewals for 2010 and even fewer new > members. We do not have > enough assets to pay for the next ad in UUWorld. Please > go to www.uupa.org > and renew/join/donate to keep our work moving on. > > Thanks > > David Hall, Treasurer. > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to > reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: jasminegld@aol.com > To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 11:11:13 EST > Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] UUPA financial status > > > > UUPA members and supporters can print the member/donation form and send it > through the mail, if you have trouble with the online form or if you'd > prefer to  use the hard copy. pdf and html versions are on the website for > printing. > > _http://uupa.org/join.htm_ (http://uupa.org/join.htm) > > Jasmine Walston, Secretary > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Erich Moraine > To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 10:24:17 -0600 > Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] UUPA financial status > I just renewed my membership. Thanks for the reminder. > > Erich Moraine > > On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 10:11 AM, wrote: > >> >> >> >> UUPA members and supporters can print the member/donation form and send it >> through the mail, if you have trouble with the online form or if you'd >> prefer to  use the hard copy. pdf and html versions are on the website for >> printing. >> >> _http://uupa.org/join.htm_ (http://uupa.org/join.htm) >> >> Jasmine Walston, Secretary >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. >> Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. >> UUPoly-L mailing list >> UUPoly-L@uupa.org >> http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l >> > > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > > From airsafe1@comcast.net Sat Jan 9 15:24:29 2010 Received: from qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.16]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o09KNMe7024404 for ; Sat, 9 Jan 2010 15:24:29 -0500 Received: from omta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.28]) by qmta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id TWpY1d0070cQ2SLA1YPGJb; Sat, 09 Jan 2010 20:23:16 +0000 Received: from DaveVostro1400 ([76.127.86.3]) by omta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id TYPE1d00104KFes8WYPEYo; Sat, 09 Jan 2010 20:23:15 +0000 From: "David Hall" To: References: <23802395.2245.1263062669966.JavaMail.root@n01> Message-ID: <809B9CA76C0640BAAC798F1F5E2B392A@DaveVostro1400> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcqRW8ZkKajjsiiARyKEYBwNtxHS/QADP8qg In-Reply-To: <23802395.2245.1263062669966.JavaMail.root@n01> Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] UUPA financial status X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 09 Jan 2010 20:24:30 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 12:23:10 -0800 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 09 Jan 2010 20:24:30 -0000 Some folks are getting an error message and not being sent on to the donate page. I want to let you know that I get the page anyway with all the info on it. You can go directly to the donate page at www.uupa.org/forms/donate.htm Thanks to all who are trying and succeeding to donate. The problem is with the CAPTCHA image and I will work on it today. The forms software needs to be updated as well. Dave Hall Alan wrote: I tried to make a donation and renewal online via the membership form, http://www.uupa.org/forms/memberform.htm ...and got this error message: ----------------------- An error occurred while processing the form . The staff at uupa.org have been alerted to the error . uupa.org apologizes for any inconvenience this error may have caused. ----------------------- From ejjabla@comcast.net Sun Jan 24 01:46:27 2010 Received: from qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.48]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o0O6jrC8019901 for ; Sun, 24 Jan 2010 01:46:27 -0500 Received: from omta24.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.92]) by qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ZJky1d0031zF43QA5Jlm0c; Sun, 24 Jan 2010 06:45:46 +0000 Received: from edddb5c91ad5a7 ([24.2.36.91]) by omta24.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id ZJmR1d0011xz6Eo8kJmRti; Sun, 24 Jan 2010 06:46:25 +0000 Message-ID: From: "Ed Blanchette" To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: [UUPoly-L] T-shirt post X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 06:46:27 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 23 Jan 2010 22:45:48 -0800 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 06:46:27 -0000 To quote a poster on another poly list: "You may have already see this, but I had to share. As a Latin teacher who studied Greek, it amuses me terribly *smirk*". Look at http://www.zazzle.com/polyamory_is_wrong_tshirt-235838933475364492. Don't jump to conclusions before you read it Ed Blanchette Citrus Hts. (Sacramento County) California USA From aine.maire@gmail.com Sun Jan 24 07:51:17 2010 Received: from mail-fx0-f223.google.com (mail-fx0-f223.google.com [209.85.220.223]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o0OCpHWL016827 for ; Sun, 24 Jan 2010 07:51:17 -0500 Received: by fxm23 with SMTP id 23so2852803fxm.38 for ; Sun, 24 Jan 2010 04:51:14 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.4.132 with SMTP id 4mr3130608far.90.1264337474073; Sun, 24 Jan 2010 04:51:14 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: aine.maire@gmail.com Message-ID: <80de162a1001240450g5f141b98pbcdd4acbb43b978e@mail.gmail.com> To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] T-shirt post X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 12:51:17 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 07:50:54 -0500 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 12:51:17 -0000 I love this! On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 01:45, Ed Blanchette wrote: > To quote a poster on another poly list: "You may have already see this, but > I had to share. As a Latin teacher who studied Greek, it amuses me terribly > *smirk*". Look at > http://www.zazzle.com/polyamory_is_wrong_tshirt-235838933475364492. > > Don't jump to conclusions before you read it > > Ed Blanchette > Citrus Hts. (Sacramento County) > California USA > > > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > From bretterb@gmail.com Sun Jan 24 08:35:36 2010 Received: from ey-out-1920.google.com (ey-out-1920.google.com [74.125.78.147]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o0ODZZDD019794 for ; Sun, 24 Jan 2010 08:35:35 -0500 Received: by ey-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 26so735596eyw.16 for ; Sun, 24 Jan 2010 05:34:32 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.89.141 with SMTP id c13mr2054819wef.66.1264340071914; Sun, 24 Jan 2010 05:34:31 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <80de162a1001240450g5f141b98pbcdd4acbb43b978e@mail.gmail.com> References: <80de162a1001240450g5f141b98pbcdd4acbb43b978e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7985c7d11001240534i563a52fn3af7151b4b0f9692@mail.gmail.com> From: BretterB To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by msb.ernest-doss.org id o0ODZZDD019794 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] T-shirt post X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 13:35:36 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 08:34:31 -0500 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 13:35:36 -0000 I think I like Polyphilia: In his Rhetoric, Aristotle defines the activity involved in philia (τὸ φιλεῖn) as: "wanting for someone what one thinks good, for his sake and not for one's own, and being inclined, so far as one can, to do such things for him" (1380b36–1381a2) -Brett Bloomington, Indiana On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 7:50 AM, wrote: > I love this! > > On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 01:45, Ed Blanchette wrote: > >> To quote a poster on another poly list: "You may have already see this, but >> I had to share. As a Latin teacher who studied Greek, it amuses me terribly >> *smirk*". Look at >> http://www.zazzle.com/polyamory_is_wrong_tshirt-235838933475364492. >> >> Don't jump to conclusions before you read it >> >> Ed Blanchette >> Citrus Hts. (Sacramento County) >> California USA >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. >> Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. >> UUPoly-L mailing list >> UUPoly-L@uupa.org >> http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l >> > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > From popefelix@gmail.com Sun Jan 24 10:56:49 2010 Received: from mail-ew0-f225.google.com (mail-ew0-f225.google.com [209.85.219.225]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o0OFumfY028492 for ; Sun, 24 Jan 2010 10:56:49 -0500 Received: by ewy25 with SMTP id 25so2238730ewy.38 for ; Sun, 24 Jan 2010 07:56:45 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.90.203 with SMTP id e53mr124668wef.28.1264348605522; Sun, 24 Jan 2010 07:56:45 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <7985c7d11001240534i563a52fn3af7151b4b0f9692@mail.gmail.com> References: <80de162a1001240450g5f141b98pbcdd4acbb43b978e@mail.gmail.com> <7985c7d11001240534i563a52fn3af7151b4b0f9692@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: From: Kit Peters To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by msb.ernest-doss.org id o0OFumfY028492 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] T-shirt post X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 15:56:49 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 09:56:45 -0600 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 15:56:49 -0000 However, by that definition (not that I'm doubting Aristotle, mind you, but the meaning has changed), parents and family members of children are generally guilty of pedophilia - "wanting for [children] what one thinks good, for [their] sake and not for one's own, and being inclined, so far as one can, to do such things for [them]". On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 07:34, BretterB wrote: > I think I like Polyphilia: > > In his Rhetoric, Aristotle defines the activity involved in philia (τὸ > φιλεῖn) as: > >   "wanting for someone what one thinks good, for his sake and not > for one's own, and being inclined, so far as one can, to do such > things for him" (1380b36–1381a2) -- GPG public key fingerpint: 1A12 04B6 0C80 306A B292 14FD 2C7A 1037 F666 46A7 From damon.gearlock@gmail.com Sun Jan 24 11:22:09 2010 Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.152]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o0OGM9fS031256 for ; Sun, 24 Jan 2010 11:22:09 -0500 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 22so1027606fge.2 for ; Sun, 24 Jan 2010 08:21:07 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.87.72.13 with SMTP id z13mr8767970fgk.76.1264350067162; Sun, 24 Jan 2010 08:21:07 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <80de162a1001240450g5f141b98pbcdd4acbb43b978e@mail.gmail.com> <7985c7d11001240534i563a52fn3af7151b4b0f9692@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: From: Gearlock Fallenstar To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] T-shirt post X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 16:22:09 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 11:21:07 -0500 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 16:22:09 -0000 Indeed... in these times "philia" has a negative connotation, which may have been why "polyamory" was coined. It has a more positive, romantic ring to it. On Jan 24, 2010 10:56 AM, "Kit Peters" wrote: However, by that definition (not that I'm doubting Aristotle, mind you, but the meaning has changed), parents and family members of children are generally guilty of pedophilia - "wanting for [children] what one thinks good, for [their] sake and not for one's own, and being inclined, so far as one can, to do such things for [them]". On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 07:34, BretterB wrote: > I think I like Polyphilia: > ... -- GPG public key fingerpint: 1A12 04B6 0C80 306A B292 14FD 2C7A 1037 F666 46A7 _______________________________________________ The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. Plea... From desmondravenstone@yahoo.com Sun Jan 24 11:29:40 2010 Received: from web50508.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web50508.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.38.84]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id o0OGTecX032046 for ; Sun, 24 Jan 2010 11:29:40 -0500 Received: (qmail 43685 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Jan 2010 16:29:40 -0000 Message-ID: <948016.39878.qm@web50508.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: hlFSxrQVM1nWbsnTtbA8cGkKzAzQZuAcwyNS3it.gMcmBF5Oila0UN.9avQtHK_3NvosLwVnjgoFckOsrdP6OBz_6MCINj4HCSeD4auoSf0jDhTVojKna_jHRYfnwHgZ.4F2aGb68HicjaSGY71DuCBd0xKr0WiBV0cP3LIL0cvBqszo27WBuZfpLDXyspont5I7Wyab_9oKW12lDLZ32w5eKVs9PtYZt_hhG8FQs4b_Rh2SQ799fc3zr3BaOkXVZZpYhLbbPNXTgel2aXJsvIIp7CkS5R_O6MCzBOW5SJ7.Z9dHJcGXZ7dC8lur5d0dRm.u840XjBWqCw9n2JY33QmzxIx3KmFLgKlpW2S1Hg5aZWhjH5J4G7LaoQBQMlyEcv1TjP2F02ZA2_CbVy9xJCBTBHwQcO0GmeBtD6OjjmSa0tP6kHfs8wtr59kf_tPx9to0rQ.AX0HYA9D32SKWXi7heKJqcw-- Received: from [72.85.254.177] by web50508.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 24 Jan 2010 08:29:39 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/9.1.10 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 From: Desmond Ravenstone To: uupoly-l@uupa.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by msb.ernest-doss.org id o0OGTecX032046 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] T-shirt post X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 16:29:40 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 08:29:39 -0800 (PST) X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 16:29:40 -0000 If "polyamory is wrong" for mixing Greek and Latin, then so is "homosexuality". Or, you can just shrug your shoulders and say: "It's all Greek to me." Desmond Ravenstone "What you call sin, I call the great spirit of love, which takes a thousand forms..." http://ravenstonesreflections.blogspot.com http://www.myspace.com/desmond_ravenstone --- On Sun, 1/24/10, Gearlock Fallenstar wrote: > From: Gearlock Fallenstar > Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] T-shirt post > To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > Date: Sunday, January 24, 2010, 11:21 AM > Indeed... in these times "philia" has > a negative connotation, which may have > been why "polyamory" was coined.  It has a more > positive, romantic ring to > it. > > On Jan 24, 2010 10:56 AM, "Kit Peters" > wrote: > > However, by that definition (not that I'm doubting > Aristotle, mind > you, but the meaning has changed), parents and family > members of > children are generally guilty of pedophilia - "wanting for > [children] > what one thinks good, for [their] sake and not for one's > own, and > being inclined, so far as one can, to do such things for > [them]". > > On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 07:34, BretterB > wrote: > I > think I like Polyphilia: > ... > -- > GPG public key fingerpint: 1A12 04B6 0C80 306A B292  > 14FD 2C7A 1037 F666 > 46A7 > > _______________________________________________ The > UUPoly-L mailing list > has public archives. Plea... > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal > about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > From anthony.roza@gmail.com Sun Jan 24 12:33:54 2010 Received: from mail-ew0-f222.google.com (mail-ew0-f222.google.com [209.85.219.222]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o0OHXrn5006792 for ; Sun, 24 Jan 2010 12:33:53 -0500 Received: by ewy22 with SMTP id 22so28282ewy.37 for ; Sun, 24 Jan 2010 09:33:52 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.91.18 with SMTP id g18mr1831040wef.124.1264354431877; Sun, 24 Jan 2010 09:33:51 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <948016.39878.qm@web50508.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <948016.39878.qm@web50508.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5aaa462a1001240933w5bccf4d0i73dbcb044af34eab@mail.gmail.com> From: Roza Anthony To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] T-shirt post X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 17:33:54 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 12:33:51 -0500 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 17:33:54 -0000 Speaking of snarky sayings, at Arisia last weekend (SF&F con), I had a couple of buttons made up: "I'm bisexual and poly, and I still won't sleep with you!" My sweethearts looked at the buttons and then at me with very mournful eyes. "But, do these apply to *us?*" Roza On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Desmond Ravenstone < desmondravenstone@yahoo.com> wrote: > If "polyamory is wrong" for mixing Greek and Latin, then so is > "homosexuality". > > Or, you can just shrug your shoulders and say: "It's all Greek to me." > > Desmond Ravenstone > > "What you call sin, I call the great spirit of love, which takes a thousand > forms..." > > http://ravenstonesreflections.blogspot.com > http://www.myspace.com/desmond_ravenstone > > > --- On Sun, 1/24/10, Gearlock Fallenstar wrote: > > > From: Gearlock Fallenstar > > Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] T-shirt post > > To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > > Date: Sunday, January 24, 2010, 11:21 AM > > Indeed... in these times "philia" has > > a negative connotation, which may have > > been why "polyamory" was coined. It has a more > > positive, romantic ring to > > it. > > > > On Jan 24, 2010 10:56 AM, "Kit Peters" > > wrote: > > > > However, by that definition (not that I'm doubting > > Aristotle, mind > > you, but the meaning has changed), parents and family > > members of > > children are generally guilty of pedophilia - "wanting for > > [children] > > what one thinks good, for [their] sake and not for one's > > own, and > > being inclined, so far as one can, to do such things for > > [them]". > > > > On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 07:34, BretterB > > wrote: > I > > think I like Polyphilia: > ... > > -- > > GPG public key fingerpint: 1A12 04B6 0C80 306A B292 > > 14FD 2C7A 1037 F666 > > 46A7 > > > > _______________________________________________ The > > UUPoly-L mailing list > > has public archives. Plea... > > _______________________________________________ > > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal > > about yourself. > > UUPoly-L mailing list > > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > From union-consult@charter.net Sun Jan 24 13:51:51 2010 Received: from mta11.charter.net (mta11.charter.net [216.33.127.80]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o0OIpp3S012623 for ; Sun, 24 Jan 2010 13:51:51 -0500 Received: from imp11 ([10.20.200.11]) by mta11.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.09.02.04 201-2219-117-106-20090629) with ESMTP id <20100124185140.MPJQ8038.mta11.charter.net@imp11> for ; Sun, 24 Jan 2010 13:51:40 -0500 Received: from kelly ([68.114.55.67]) by imp11 with smtp.charter.net id ZWrg1d0021T0s0405Wrgiy; Sun, 24 Jan 2010 13:51:40 -0500 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=U_cDBHyiikDvhcl29aMA:9 a=3s8sSOW8wJFaiwDHRsFT9fFFmVQA:4 From: "Union Consult" To: References: In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001201ca9d26$43ca9b30$cb5fd190$@net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcqdFrLpr0GbP/38Ro2szBC8aA05+AADyfWw Content-Language: en-us x-cr-hashedpuzzle: AoAH CdVr CfES C0Cc DYqm EB9o EgF3 E5MF FDhD FI69 FRPB Gb9k G16v Kjyu Ktmm K1Eo; 1; dQB1AHAAbwBsAHkALQBsAEAAdQB1AHAAYQAuAG8AcgBnAA==; Sosha1_v1; 7; {7597D984-0778-4372-97F5-5AA874FD6D98}; dQBuAGkAbwBuAC0AYwBvAG4AcwB1AGwAdABAAGMAaABhAHIAdABlAHIALgBuAGUAdAA=; Sun, 24 Jan 2010 18:50:36 GMT; UABvAGwAeQBhAG0AbwByAHkAIABpAHMAIAAiAHcAcgBvAG4AZwAiACAAIABuAG8AdAA= x-cr-puzzleid: {7597D984-0778-4372-97F5-5AA874FD6D98} Subject: [UUPoly-L] Polyamory is "wrong" not X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 18:51:51 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 13:51:39 -0500 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 18:51:51 -0000 Lots of English words have multiple roots, that's what makes them strong and also that's how we create new plants, animals, music food and other things, by blending and mixing roots. From damon.gearlock@gmail.com Sun Jan 24 14:23:31 2010 Received: from fg-out-1718.google.com (fg-out-1718.google.com [72.14.220.153]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o0OJNUeX015063 for ; Sun, 24 Jan 2010 14:23:31 -0500 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 22so1065581fge.2 for ; Sun, 24 Jan 2010 11:22:28 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.87.19.35 with SMTP id w35mr9090456fgi.50.1264360948440; Sun, 24 Jan 2010 11:22:28 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <001201ca9d26$43ca9b30$cb5fd190$@net> References: <001201ca9d26$43ca9b30$cb5fd190$@net> Message-ID: From: Gearlock Fallenstar To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Polyamory is "wrong" not X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 19:23:31 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 14:22:28 -0500 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 19:23:31 -0000 Well put, Consult. Personally I like the word. I can definitely appreciate the humor of the slogan. I've been considering designs for poly shirts myself. :) On Jan 24, 2010 1:52 PM, "Union Consult" wrote: Lots of English words have multiple roots, that's what makes them strong and also that's how we create new plants, animals, music food and other things, by blending and mixing roots. _______________________________________________ The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. UUPoly-L mailing list UUPoly-L@uupa.org http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l From alanmacrobert@gmail.com Fri Jan 29 08:19:47 2010 Received: from mail-px0-f195.google.com (mail-px0-f195.google.com [209.85.216.195]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o0TDJlel028007 for ; Fri, 29 Jan 2010 08:19:47 -0500 Received: by pxi33 with SMTP id 33so1361882pxi.10 for ; Fri, 29 Jan 2010 05:19:43 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: alanmacrobert@gmail.com Received: by 10.142.67.11 with SMTP id p11mr562898wfa.342.1264771183514; Fri, 29 Jan 2010 05:19:43 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Sender-Auth: 194982c4800a7bb4 Message-ID: From: alan7388 To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: [UUPoly-L] Article I wrote, "Poly and the Unitarian Universalist Church" X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 13:19:48 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 08:19:43 -0500 X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 13:19:48 -0000 In case people missed it, I posted an article on my Polyamory in the News blog about poly and UUs -- taking off from an article on the topic that a journalism student in Boston wrote and put online. http://polyinthemedia.blogspot.com/2009/12/poly-and-unitarian-universalist-church.html Comments? Cheers, Alan M. From JasmineGld@aol.com Fri Jan 29 16:23:59 2010 Received: from imr-da03.mx.aol.com (imr-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.145]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o0TLNQBw028634 for ; Fri, 29 Jan 2010 16:23:59 -0500 Received: from imo-ma01.mx.aol.com (imo-ma01.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.136]) by imr-da03.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o0TLNPUK018280 for ; Fri, 29 Jan 2010 16:23:25 -0500 Received: from JasmineGld@aol.com by imo-ma01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.9.) id g.c95.599f15cb (37542) for ; Fri, 29 Jan 2010 16:23:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from smtprly-mc03.mx.aol.com (smtprly-mc03.mx.aol.com [64.12.95.99]) by cia-mb02.mx.aol.com (v127.7) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMB023-d3dc4b6351b62d4; Fri, 29 Jan 2010 16:23:19 -0500 Received: from magic-d26.mail.aol.com (magic-d26.mail.aol.com [172.19.146.160]) by smtprly-mc03.mx.aol.com (v127.7) with ESMTP id MAILSMTPRLYMC036-d3dc4b6351b62d4; Fri, 29 Jan 2010 16:23:02 -0500 From: JasmineGld@aol.com Message-ID: <12b04.374d472a.3894abb6@aol.com> To: uupoly-l@uupa.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5379 X-AOL-ORIG-IP: 74.130.8.252 X-AOL-IP: 172.19.146.160 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-AOL-SENDER: JasmineGld@aol.com Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Article I wrote, "Poly and the Unitarian Universalist Church" X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 21:23:59 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 16:23:02 EST X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 21:23:59 -0000 >From the article: "Dina Johnston recently experienced hostility from a UU church...Johnston said she is Christian...." _http://polyinthemedia.blogspot.com/2009/12/poly-and-unitarian-universalist- church.html_ (http://polyinthemedia.blogspot.com/2009/12/poly-and-unitarian-universalist-church.html) Dina, are on this list? Or any other Christians? I'd like to talk with you about an idea that I have, stemming from the article's description of Dina's experience. Jasmine From desmondravenstone@yahoo.com Sun Jan 31 18:18:43 2010 Received: from web50501.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web50501.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.38.77]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id o0VNIhxP010422 for ; Sun, 31 Jan 2010 18:18:43 -0500 Received: (qmail 33487 invoked by uid 60001); 31 Jan 2010 23:18:43 -0000 Message-ID: <176398.32425.qm@web50501.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 7e5tRK8VM1nziHhgunj70x9KMZflhqUtfwrdLgm_CBTyKzLJFlTD.KVXv5aGa5qyKQQs5HRTNVvTQeBH9IB8lBqT_CaFKrYL7wiCIRIBVyIIrsp8TQVJwPpNZrm1HQTHM9iyXUi2V7bqDSrdbQtQDRe5szqpRmWE5p77KVbtfy8l.1rM9Zv5vCIuJP4kPNvfjjTyNWurtwK.FeSYEbG.E71BOSrnJDXstbUNee0OpRRQvMb18jJJ.4GKGLeGNtVGwutXjx2qbHSp9tDlcql26fcplT2ctZKwVByJpxBRDr5ZC.VTpV.g62Bf9OiT0nG7HKS19mK1qcIsgp.urB6VqFBSncyXqw26Rclw6Qi_9f2jWjjygiU7hoyHGXtrFTjGdoPhbj_J8E1FLQZs8GT_yPKhKou5RY__XL8w.JWchP97q4uHWZolknYhh6FDEQI3kbSq5F_ZDw_NmoTNwqfz8C_pSnFirw-- Received: from [173.115.157.6] by web50501.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 31 Jan 2010 15:18:43 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/9.1.10 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 From: Desmond Ravenstone To: uupoly-l@uupa.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by msb.ernest-doss.org id o0VNIhxP010422 Subject: [UUPoly-L] Proud of my church right now X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 23:18:43 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 15:18:43 -0800 (PST) X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 23:18:43 -0000 I was away the Sunday after New Years, and didn’t hear about this until today. Our congregation was sent this anonymously, and it was read during the Candles of Sorrow and Joy: “This candle is about hope. A recent issue of the Boston Globe has an article called ‘Love’s New Frontier’ discussing polyamory. I urge everyone at ASC to read it and to talk about it. I would love to be able to come out of the closet and bring both of my loving partners into this church.†Our Senior Minister and Acting Associate Minister then authorized the Candles Coordinator to read aloud the following response: “Arlington Street Church is an open and loving community. We invite you to come out and bring your partners into our fold.†No big hoopla about it, but a significant step forward to have our ministers take the time to affirm and welcome poly folks. Desmond Ravenstone "What you call sin, I call the great spirit of love, which takes a thousand forms..." http://ravenstonesreflections.blogspot.com http://www.myspace.com/desmond_ravenstone From haslamk@gmail.com Sun Jan 31 18:49:17 2010 Received: from mail-yx0-f193.google.com (mail-yx0-f193.google.com [209.85.210.193]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o0VNnGI6012696 for ; Sun, 31 Jan 2010 18:49:17 -0500 Received: by yxe31 with SMTP id 31so3516858yxe.21 for ; Sun, 31 Jan 2010 15:49:14 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.28.3 with SMTP id f3mr4280130anj.68.1264981753978; Sun, 31 Jan 2010 15:49:13 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <176398.32425.qm@web50501.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <176398.32425.qm@web50501.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <7f7f511e1001311549r152c395frb0af36a54f6d1c7c@mail.gmail.com> From: Ken Haslam To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Proud of my church right now X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 23:49:17 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 18:49:13 -0500 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 23:49:17 -0000 Although my UU fellowship, Unitarian Universalists of the Chester River, Chestertown, MD has had some difficulty with Polyamory being more conservative, they have finally agreed to give me some time in April to do = a workshop on Polyamory where I will emphasize the relationship between Polyamory and the Unitarian Universalists and its sometimes rocky path. My copresenter will be a woman, another UU from another fellowship with a long experience in Polyamory. We are making progress slowly.. . I urge members of this list to share those Joys and Sorrows regarding acceptance in your own UU community and please let us know the names of those fellowships. Ken Haslam On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 6:18 PM, Desmond Ravenstone < desmondravenstone@yahoo.com> wrote: > I was away the Sunday after New Years, and didn=92t hear about this until > today. Our congregation was sent this anonymously, and it was read durin= g > the Candles of Sorrow and Joy: > > =93This candle is about hope. A recent issue of the Boston Globe has an > article called =91Love=92s New Frontier=92 discussing polyamory. I urge = everyone > at ASC to read it and to talk about it. I would love to be able to come = out > of the closet and bring both of my loving partners into this church.=94 > > Our Senior Minister and Acting Associate Minister then authorized the > Candles Coordinator to read aloud the following response: > > =93Arlington Street Church is an open and loving community. We invite yo= u to > come out and bring your partners into our fold.=94 > > No big hoopla about it, but a significant step forward to have our > ministers take the time to affirm and welcome poly folks. > > Desmond Ravenstone > > "What you call sin, I call the great spirit of love, which takes a thousa= nd > forms..." > > http://ravenstonesreflections.blogspot.com > http://www.myspace.com/desmond_ravenstone > > > > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > --=20 Love withers under constraint; its very essence is liberty. It is compatibl= e neither with obedience, jealousy nor fear. It is there most pure, perfect, and unlimited when its votaries live in confidence, equality and unreserve. Percy Bysshe Shelley From ejjabla@comcast.net Sun Jan 31 19:59:46 2010 Received: from qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.27.228]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o110xDLT017185 for ; Sun, 31 Jan 2010 19:59:46 -0500 Received: from omta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.59]) by qmta15.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id cQ8c1d00f1GXsucAFQz8rh; Mon, 01 Feb 2010 00:59:08 +0000 Received: from edddb5c91ad5a7 ([24.2.36.91]) by omta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id cQu71d00H1xz6Eo8TQu8m0; Mon, 01 Feb 2010 00:54:08 +0000 Message-ID: <3B1ADA13F0254C43BA8F2B85C1897960@edddb5c91ad5a7> From: "Ed Blanchette" To: References: <176398.32425.qm@web50501.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Proud of my church right now X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Mon, 01 Feb 2010 00:59:47 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2010 16:54:12 -0800 X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Feb 2010 00:59:47 -0000 Hooray! Kudos to ASC. Ed Citrus Hts. (Sacramento County) California USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Desmond Ravenstone" To: Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 3:18 PM Subject: [UUPoly-L] Proud of my church right now >I was away the Sunday after New Years, and didn’t hear about this until >today. Our congregation was sent this anonymously, and it was read during >the Candles of Sorrow and Joy: > > “This candle is about hope. A recent issue of the Boston Globe has an > article called ‘Love’s New Frontier’ discussing polyamory. I urge > everyone at ASC to read it and to talk about it. I would love to be able > to come out of the closet and bring both of my loving partners into this > church.†> > Our Senior Minister and Acting Associate Minister then authorized the > Candles Coordinator to read aloud the following response: > > “Arlington Street Church is an open and loving community. We invite you > to come out and bring your partners into our fold.†> > No big hoopla about it, but a significant step forward to have our > ministers take the time to affirm and welcome poly folks. > > Desmond Ravenstone > > "What you call sin, I call the great spirit of love, which takes a > thousand forms..." > > http://ravenstonesreflections.blogspot.com > http://www.myspace.com/desmond_ravenstone > > > > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l >