From rpaul79@hotmail.com Wed Jun 2 19:05:33 2010 Received: from snt0-omc2-s18.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc2-s18.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.93]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o52N50hS029172 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 2010 19:05:33 -0400 Received: from SNT113-W15 ([65.55.90.72]) by snt0-omc2-s18.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 2 Jun 2010 16:04:39 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [4.225.91.95] From: Raymond Domire To: Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Jun 2010 23:04:39.0296 (UTC) FILETIME=[FA568800:01CB02A7] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: [UUPoly-L] 1st Post X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 23:05:34 -0000 X-Original-Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 19:04:39 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 23:05:34 -0000 I would like to introduce myself! My name is Ray=3B I am 60 year old married male! Live just north of Columbus=2C OH. Wow=2C I don't think you all want my life's story=2C so=2C please ask what you=20 would like to know about me.=20 Oh=2C I'm a UU!! =20 _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search=2C chat and e-mail from your inb= ox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=3DPID28326::T:WLMTAGL:O= N:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1= From anthony.roza@gmail.com Wed Jun 2 23:07:48 2010 Received: from mail-wy0-f175.google.com (mail-wy0-f175.google.com [74.125.82.175]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o5337meW010209 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 2010 23:07:48 -0400 Received: by wyb32 with SMTP id 32so683065wyb.20 for ; Wed, 02 Jun 2010 20:07:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.178.133 with SMTP id f5mr605990wem.81.1275534467604; Wed, 02 Jun 2010 20:07:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.26.9 with HTTP; Wed, 2 Jun 2010 20:07:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Roza Anthony To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: [UUPoly-L] response to "1st Post" X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2010 03:07:48 -0000 X-Original-Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 23:07:47 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2010 03:07:48 -0000 Welcome, Ray. In my experience, this list is a place to vent, to ask for advice, to talk things over or point out new and shiny things in the world. While I'm certainly glad you found us and have joined, what I really want to know is what you have to say. Pick a topic loosely related to poly or UUism. Pontificate, at length if necessary. Ask people to comment on it. Respond to their comments. Comment on someone else's topic. For me, being part of this list means there are more or less sane people out there to whom I don't have to fudge details of my life. When my coworkers tell me all queers are doomed to hell, and the TV is filled with socially conservative ministers telling me that women belong pregnant and barefoot in the kitchen (which is fine, if we have *chosen* to be there), and my grandmother tells me she has an emotional problem with my secondary partner -- never having met him, mind -- there's this group of people who don't care about who or how many or what gender my lovers/partners/sweethearts are. They want to know if I have something interesting to say about it all. I hope you find us as welcoming and necessary and fulfilling as I have. Roza > > I would like to introduce myself! > > My name is Ray; I am 60 year old married male! > Live just north of Columbus, OH. Wow, I don't think > you all want my life's story, so, please ask what you > would like to know about me. > > Oh, I'm a UU!! From greystone.house@pacbell.net Thu Jun 3 15:37:43 2010 Received: from smtp128.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com (smtp128.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com [69.147.65.187]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id o53Jb9YF000357 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 2010 15:37:42 -0400 Received: (qmail 70830 invoked from network); 3 Jun 2010 19:37:08 -0000 Received: from adsl-75-41-122-127.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net (greystone.house@75.41.122.127 with login) by smtp128.sbc.mail.sp1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 03 Jun 2010 12:37:08 -0700 PDT X-Yahoo-SMTP: xS6r5G6swBDFMM5aX5w3GvF6PVrg7BsZUjqbfT16y5gki9exndB1DA-- X-YMail-OSG: yAF18g8VM1ngJ87v5A2lRloiufVY99knKS7dX3.DvCZNhXVhWEc3oQczy_PvYOy4oKW5bYkcEUt9IKRabMpBWO8TOKD3rCSBhaMYSP7e727A_ELpVYeboWky3dRCrl2Y25F7GKqRgV4rza6Bht1zvKnT9iXQmFtnVfI4zJAjGd.TOLGx0X8EwuHkJwQnIisbSewkDHdDLvAS7Lc18yshwwLZPdqt56PyC_QVFgIna3L4gmYJRuEH6Ug1CJXpL0yJ X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: From: "Emily B." To: Organization: Greystone House MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: [UUPoly-L] Really obscure help wanted... X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2010 19:37:43 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 12:37:05 -0700 X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2010 19:37:43 -0000 This is neither a UU nor a poly question, so I apologize if I am out of = line in posting it here. I am doing so simply because, well, UU's are = notorious for having a remarkable range of resources and contacts, so I = figured that it was worth a try to post the question here. ;) An acquaintance of mine is an independent Pagan/religious scholar = (published, academic/peer-reviewed journal, etc.). He is trying to find = a translation of a portion of the the Kathaka recension of the Black = Yajur Veda, specifically 37.14 (regarding Indra's theft of amrta), = preferably in English or German, or French if neither of the former = turns up. =20 If anyone has a helpful rabbit in their hat & is willing to share, I'd = appreciate it greatly! Thanks,=20 Emily From tarauni@charter.net Thu Jun 3 18:24:10 2010 Received: from mta41.charter.net (mta41.charter.net [216.33.127.83]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o53MOAVx010100 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 2010 18:24:10 -0400 Received: from imp10 ([10.20.200.15]) by mta41.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.09.02.04 201-2219-117-106-20090629) with ESMTP id <20100603222400.SGRK2629.mta41.charter.net@imp10>; Thu, 3 Jun 2010 18:24:00 -0400 Received: from mp15 ([209.225.8.245]) by imp10 with smtp.charter.net id RaPv1e0035HCQSx05aPyE6; Thu, 03 Jun 2010 18:23:58 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=2iNPggg8Xq8A:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=69EAbJreAAAA:8 a=DPdd6oeZAAAA:8 a=IVgIdVCEAAAA:8 a=h2uM35XhLsTQ5ob_XLQA:9 a=pGwJjd5x50PHlraFE4MA:7 a=Jkc0qptLBsWFDBN6S2sPihunggoA:4 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=EfJqPEOeqlMA:10 a=3eoJJSWtpq8A:10 Message-ID: <20100603182358.XIQSR.1768116.root@mp15> From: To: uupoly-l@uupa.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: from 68.189.62.70 by ssomail.charter.net; Thu, 3 Jun 2010 18:23:53 -0400 Subject: [UUPoly-L] Mailing list X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2010 22:24:11 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 15:23:58 -0700 X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2010 22:24:11 -0000 ---- Raymond Domire wrote: > > I would like to introduce myself! > > My name is Ray; I am 60 year old married male! > Live just north of Columbus, OH. Wow, I don't think > you all want my life's story, so, please ask what you > would like to know about me. > > Oh, I'm a UU!! > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1 > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l Please take me off your mailing list Steve maupin From chuck.lynd@gmail.com Fri Jun 4 10:57:57 2010 Received: from mail-fx0-f47.google.com (mail-fx0-f47.google.com [209.85.161.47]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o54EvtHn030348 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2010 10:57:56 -0400 Received: by fxm9 with SMTP id 9so1010530fxm.20 for ; Fri, 04 Jun 2010 07:57:52 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.31.136 with SMTP id y8mr11988890fac.19.1275663472352; Fri, 04 Jun 2010 07:57:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.117.16 with HTTP; Fri, 4 Jun 2010 07:57:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: From: Chuck Lynd To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Really obscure help wanted... X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 14:58:13 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 10:57:52 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 14:58:13 -0000 I'm no expert but if you type these keywords into google: Kathaka Black Yajur Veda 37.14 You get a nice link to the Wikipedia entry and a couple of others. Translations and various references are included and perhaps your friend can assess whether or not they are useful for his purpose. Chuck Lynd On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 3:37 PM, Emily B. wrote: > This is neither a UU nor a poly question, so I apologize if I am out of > line in posting it here. I am doing so simply because, well, UU's are > notorious for having a remarkable range of resources and contacts, so I > figured that it was worth a try to post the question here. ;) > > An acquaintance of mine is an independent Pagan/religious scholar > (published, academic/peer-reviewed journal, etc.). He is trying to find a > translation of a portion of the the Kathaka recension of the Black Yajur > Veda, specifically 37.14 (regarding Indra's theft of amrta), preferably in > English or German, or French if neither of the former turns up. > > If anyone has a helpful rabbit in their hat & is willing to share, I'd > appreciate it greatly! > > Thanks, > Emily > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > From JasmineGld@aol.com Fri Jun 4 12:01:31 2010 Received: from imr-da06.mx.aol.com (imr-da06.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.203]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o54G0vTK002217 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2010 12:01:31 -0400 Received: from imo-da01.mx.aol.com (imo-da01.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.199]) by imr-da06.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o54G0tbJ028424 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2010 12:00:55 -0400 Received: from JasmineGld@aol.com by imo-da01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.9.) id g.d5e.6743c5f6 (55742) for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2010 12:00:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from magic-m16.mail.aol.com (magic-m16.mail.aol.com [172.21.188.208]) by cia-md05.mx.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMD051-d9be4c09232e382; Fri, 04 Jun 2010 12:00:46 -0400 From: JasmineGld@aol.com Message-ID: <21fe9.70246120.393a7d2e@aol.com> To: uupoly-l@uupa.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5379 X-AOL-ORIG-IP: 74.130.8.252 X-AOL-IP: 172.21.188.208 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-AOL-SENDER: JasmineGld@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] 1st Post X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 16:01:36 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 12:00:46 EDT X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 16:01:36 -0000 Welcome to UUPoly, Ray. One of the purposes of this list is to encourage UUs to engage in poly education in their home congregations. Is poly education something you have an interest in? Has your congregation done any work around poly welcoming? BTW, I'm just down the road a bit in Louisville. I plan to be in Columbus in July for a big poly get-together. Have you heard about it? Jasmine In a message dated 6/2/2010 7:06:03 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, rpaul79@hotmail.com writes: > Live just north of Columbus, OH. From aine.maire@gmail.com Fri Jun 4 12:06:18 2010 Received: from mail-gy0-f175.google.com (mail-gy0-f175.google.com [209.85.160.175]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o54G6H9E003347 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2010 12:06:18 -0400 Received: by gyg10 with SMTP id 10so1071815gyg.20 for ; Fri, 04 Jun 2010 09:06:15 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.72.95 with SMTP id l31mr5781954qaj.194.1275667564619; Fri, 04 Jun 2010 09:06:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.48.133 with HTTP; Fri, 4 Jun 2010 09:06:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <21fe9.70246120.393a7d2e@aol.com> References: <21fe9.70246120.393a7d2e@aol.com> Message-ID: From: aine.maire@gmail.com To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] 1st Post X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 16:06:19 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 12:06:04 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 16:06:19 -0000 Is it the picnic on July 25th down in Columbus? If so, I'm planning on going. I'm from Cleveland. I don't have the details because my boyfriend is doing the driving and it's the same day as his family reunion. So he gets to spend time with his biological family and his chosen family. Annie:) On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 12:00, wrote: > > Welcome to UUPoly, Ray. One of the purposes of this list is to encourage > UUs to engage in poly education in their home congregations. Is poly > education something you have an interest in? Has your congregation done > any work > around poly welcoming? > > BTW, I'm just down the road a bit in Louisville. I plan to be in Columbus > in July for a big poly get-together. Have you heard about it? > > Jasmine > > > In a message dated 6/2/2010 7:06:03 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > rpaul79@hotmail.com writes: > > > Live just north of Columbus, OH. > > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > -- I think dogs are the most amazing creatures. They give unconditional love. For me, they are the role model for being alive. ~Gilda Radner You think dogs will not be in heaven? I tell you, they will be there long before any of us. ~Robert Louis Stevenson From aine.maire@gmail.com Fri Jun 4 12:07:14 2010 Received: from mail-gw0-f47.google.com (mail-gw0-f47.google.com [74.125.83.47]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o54G7DSx003851 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2010 12:07:14 -0400 Received: by gwb15 with SMTP id 15so1053274gwb.20 for ; Fri, 04 Jun 2010 09:07:10 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.72.95 with SMTP id l31mr5783039qaj.194.1275667630189; Fri, 04 Jun 2010 09:07:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.48.133 with HTTP; Fri, 4 Jun 2010 09:07:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <21fe9.70246120.393a7d2e@aol.com> Message-ID: From: aine.maire@gmail.com To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] 1st Post X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 16:07:21 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 12:07:09 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 16:07:21 -0000 PS: Welcome Ray! Which congregation do you attend? On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 12:06, wrote: > Is it the picnic on July 25th down in Columbus? If so, I'm planning on > going. I'm from Cleveland. I don't have the details because my boyfriend is > doing the driving and it's the same day as his family reunion. So he gets to > spend time with his biological family and his chosen family. > > Annie:) > > On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 12:00, wrote: > >> >> Welcome to UUPoly, Ray. One of the purposes of this list is to encourage >> UUs to engage in poly education in their home congregations. Is poly >> education something you have an interest in? Has your congregation done >> any work >> around poly welcoming? >> >> BTW, I'm just down the road a bit in Louisville. I plan to be in Columbus >> in July for a big poly get-together. Have you heard about it? >> >> Jasmine >> >> >> In a message dated 6/2/2010 7:06:03 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >> rpaul79@hotmail.com writes: >> >> > Live just north of Columbus, OH. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. >> Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. >> UUPoly-L mailing list >> UUPoly-L@uupa.org >> http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l >> > > > > -- > > I think dogs are the most amazing creatures. They give unconditional love. > For me, they are the role model for being alive. > ~Gilda Radner > > You think dogs will not be in heaven? I tell you, they will be there long > before any of us. > ~Robert Louis Stevenson > -- I think dogs are the most amazing creatures. They give unconditional love. For me, they are the role model for being alive. ~Gilda Radner You think dogs will not be in heaven? I tell you, they will be there long before any of us. ~Robert Louis Stevenson From JasmineGld@aol.com Fri Jun 4 14:51:45 2010 Received: from imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (imr-ma06.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.142]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o54IpBxi013964 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2010 14:51:45 -0400 Received: from imo-da01.mx.aol.com (imo-da01.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.199]) by imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o54Ip0sV026063 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2010 14:51:00 -0400 Received: from JasmineGld@aol.com by imo-da01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.9.) id g.dab.c1d7542 (34964) for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2010 14:50:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from magic-m16.mail.aol.com (magic-m16.mail.aol.com [172.21.188.208]) by cia-da07.mx.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILCIADA071-88944c094b10249; Fri, 04 Jun 2010 14:50:56 -0400 From: JasmineGld@aol.com Message-ID: <2a7d1.582f9b40.393aa510@aol.com> To: uupoly-l@uupa.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5379 X-AOL-ORIG-IP: 74.130.8.252 X-AOL-IP: 172.21.188.208 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-AOL-SENDER: JasmineGld@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] 1st Post X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 18:51:46 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 14:50:56 EDT X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 18:51:46 -0000 In a message dated 6/4/2010 12:06:27 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, aine.maire@gmail.com writes: > Is it the picnic on July 25th down in Columbus? Yes, it is. How many UUs from this list are planning to attend? We should find each other for a few minutes during the gathering. Jasmine From aine.maire@gmail.com Fri Jun 4 15:38:24 2010 Received: from mail-gw0-f47.google.com (mail-gw0-f47.google.com [74.125.83.47]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o54JcOSF016612 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2010 15:38:24 -0400 Received: by gwb20 with SMTP id 20so137953gwb.20 for ; Fri, 04 Jun 2010 12:38:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.221.134 with SMTP id ic6mr2899551qcb.65.1275680298090; Fri, 04 Jun 2010 12:38:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.48.133 with HTTP; Fri, 4 Jun 2010 12:38:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <2a7d1.582f9b40.393aa510@aol.com> References: <2a7d1.582f9b40.393aa510@aol.com> Message-ID: From: aine.maire@gmail.com To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] 1st Post X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 19:38:25 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 15:38:17 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 19:38:25 -0000 I'm not with any particular congregation. I would be happy to hook up with others and get to meet some of you. Annie:) On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 14:50, wrote: > > In a message dated 6/4/2010 12:06:27 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > aine.maire@gmail.com writes: > > > Is it the picnic on July 25th down in Columbus? > > Yes, it is. How many UUs from this list are planning to attend? We should > find each other for a few minutes during the gathering. > > Jasmine > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > -- I think dogs are the most amazing creatures. They give unconditional love. For me, they are the role model for being alive. ~Gilda Radner You think dogs will not be in heaven? I tell you, they will be there long before any of us. ~Robert Louis Stevenson From suregriffin@hotmail.com Fri Jun 4 16:22:36 2010 Received: from bay0-omc2-s8.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc2-s8.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.190.83]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o54KM2HV019254 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2010 16:22:36 -0400 Received: from BAY118-W19 ([65.54.190.125]) by bay0-omc2-s8.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 4 Jun 2010 13:21:40 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [68.234.67.195] From: Sandra Griffin To: Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <2a7d1.582f9b40.393aa510@aol.com>, MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Jun 2010 20:21:40.0372 (UTC) FILETIME=[8A78A540:01CB0423] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] GA X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 20:22:38 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 15:21:39 -0500 X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 20:22:38 -0000 Speaking of networking=2C who's going to be at the GA in Minneapolis later = this month? Sandy > > > Is it the picnic on July 25th down in Columbus? > > > > Yes=2C it is. How many UUs from this list are planning to attend? We sh= ould > > find each other for a few minutes during the gathering. > > > > Jasmine =20 _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your = inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=3DPID28326::T:WLMTAGL:O= N:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2= From popefelix@gmail.com Fri Jun 4 16:35:09 2010 Received: from mail-ww0-f47.google.com (mail-ww0-f47.google.com [74.125.82.47]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o54KZ9Eb020323 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2010 16:35:09 -0400 Received: by wwb34 with SMTP id 34so1308093wwb.20 for ; Fri, 04 Jun 2010 13:35:08 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.164.20 with SMTP id b20mr23949wel.101.1275683704638; Fri, 04 Jun 2010 13:35:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.68.197 with HTTP; Fri, 4 Jun 2010 13:35:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <2a7d1.582f9b40.393aa510@aol.com> Message-ID: From: Kit Peters To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] GA X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 20:35:10 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 15:35:04 -0500 X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 20:35:10 -0000 I won't, but my lover plans to be. On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 15:21, Sandra Griffin wrote: > > Speaking of networking, who's going to be at the GA in Minneapolis later > this month? > Sandy > > > > > > > Is it the picnic on July 25th down in Columbus? > > > > > > Yes, it is. How many UUs from this list are planning to attend? We > should > > > find each other for a few minutes during the gathering. > > > > > > Jasmine > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your > inbox. > > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > -- GPG public key fingerpint: 1A12 04B6 0C80 306A B292 14FD 2C7A 1037 F666 46A7 From lso@peak.org Fri Jun 4 17:16:51 2010 Received: from redcondor1.peak.org (redcondor1.peak.org [69.59.192.54]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o54LGGj5022797 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2010 17:16:50 -0400 Received: from peak-mail-gateway.peak.org ([69.59.192.41]) by redcondor1.peak.org ({e03e86cd-14ae-47ce-9578-3c080ce9c462}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTP id 20100604211615311 for ; Fri, 04 Jun 2010 21:16:15 +0000 X-RC-FROM: X-RC-RCPT: Received: from [192.168.2.196] (c-71-237-206-220.hsd1.or.comcast.net [71.237.206.220]) (authenticated bits=0) by peak-mail-gateway.peak.org (8.12.10/8.12.8) with ESMTP id o54LGELm033245 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2010 14:16:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4C096D22.1000409@peak.org> From: Laura User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100317 Thunderbird/3.0.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: uupoly-l@uupa.org References: <2a7d1.582f9b40.393aa510@aol.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] GA X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 21:17:03 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 14:16:18 -0700 X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 21:17:03 -0000 My sweetie, Joel Spector, will be there. :) Laura On 6/4/2010 1:35 PM, Kit Peters wrote: > I won't, but my lover plans to be. > > On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 15:21, Sandra Griffinwrote: > > >> Speaking of networking, who's going to be at the GA in Minneapolis later >> this month? >> Sandy >> >> >> >> >>>>> Is it the picnic on July 25th down in Columbus? >>>>> >>>> Yes, it is. How many UUs from this list are planning to attend? We >>>> >> should >> >>>> find each other for a few minutes during the gathering. >>>> >>>> Jasmine >>>> >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your >> inbox. >> >> http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 >> _______________________________________________ >> The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. >> Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. >> UUPoly-L mailing list >> UUPoly-L@uupa.org >> http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l >> >> > > > From rpaul79@hotmail.com Fri Jun 4 17:16:57 2010 Received: from snt0-omc2-s6.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc2-s6.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.81]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o54LGN7h022805 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2010 17:16:56 -0400 Received: from SNT113-W41 ([65.55.90.72]) by snt0-omc2-s6.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 4 Jun 2010 14:16:01 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [4.224.177.232] From: Raymond Domire To: Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <21fe9.70246120.393a7d2e@aol.com> References: <21fe9.70246120.393a7d2e@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Jun 2010 21:16:01.0847 (UTC) FILETIME=[22763C70:01CB042B] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] 1st Post X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 21:17:03 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 17:16:01 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 21:17:03 -0000 No=2C I had not heard of the poly get-together in Columbus=2C in July! Would be interested in attending=2C if I'm around!! I'm Co-President of our Fellowship in Delaware=2C 20 miles north of Columbus=2C OH. Our Fellowship (only 25 members) has not done anything regarding poly education. I would like to lead by example! Personally=2C I'm trying to find someone that is looking for a relationship with my wife and I - and=2C not a friend with benefits=20 only. How about some responsibility for everyone=2C for a relationship. Dual relationships - one with my wife=2C and one with another man=2C=20 doesn't work=2C for me. I would like to live what I preach/want!=20 Thanks to all for your welcomes! > From: JasmineGld@aol.com > Date: Fri=2C 4 Jun 2010 12:00:46 -0400 > To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] 1st Post >=20 > =20 > Welcome to UUPoly=2C Ray. One of the purposes of this list is to encourag= e =20 > UUs to engage in poly education in their home congregations. Is poly=20 > education something you have an interest in? Has your congregation done = any work=20 > around poly welcoming?=20 > =20 > BTW=2C I'm just down the road a bit in Louisville. I plan to be in Columb= us =20 > in July for a big poly get-together. Have you heard about it?=20 > =20 > Jasmine=20 > =20 > =20 > In a message dated 6/2/2010 7:06:03 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time=2C =20 > rpaul79@hotmail.com writes: >=20 > > Live just north of Columbus=2C OH.=20 >=20 > =20 > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l =20 _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search=2C chat and e-mail from your inbox= . http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=3DPID28326::T:WLMTAGL:O= N:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3= From aine.maire@gmail.com Fri Jun 4 17:26:26 2010 Received: from mail-vw0-f47.google.com (mail-vw0-f47.google.com [209.85.212.47]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o54LQQLR024185 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2010 17:26:26 -0400 Received: by vws4 with SMTP id 4so2157873vws.20 for ; Fri, 04 Jun 2010 14:26:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.88.40 with SMTP id y40mr6243359qal.383.1275686785472; Fri, 04 Jun 2010 14:26:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.48.133 with HTTP; Fri, 4 Jun 2010 14:26:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <21fe9.70246120.393a7d2e@aol.com> Message-ID: From: aine.maire@gmail.com To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] 1st Post X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 21:26:32 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 17:26:25 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 21:26:32 -0000 Hi Ray, I'm sorry I'm confused by your last paragraph. Are you looking for a third? There was a discussion recently about the difficulties such closed triads can cause. Or are you saying that you want a third because you don't want to have two separate relationships for yourself? Just wondering. And good luck in whatever dynamic you are looking for. Annie:) On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 17:16, Raymond Domire wrote: > > Personally, I'm trying to find someone that is looking > for a relationship with my wife and I - and, not a friend with benefits > only. How about some responsibility for everyone, for a relationship. > Dual relationships - one with my wife, and one with another man, > doesn't work, for me. I would like to live what I preach/want! > From rpaul79@hotmail.com Fri Jun 4 19:01:28 2010 Received: from snt0-omc2-s17.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc2-s17.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.92]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o54N0s0i029165 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2010 19:01:27 -0400 Received: from SNT113-W21 ([65.55.90.72]) by snt0-omc2-s17.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 4 Jun 2010 16:00:33 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [74.218.35.180] From: Raymond Domire To: Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: <21fe9.70246120.393a7d2e@aol.com>, , MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Jun 2010 23:00:33.0410 (UTC) FILETIME=[BC9ACE20:01CB0439] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] 1st Post X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 23:01:43 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 19:00:33 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 23:01:43 -0000 Yes=2C I would like an individual that wants to be part=20 of a triad! You think triads are difficult=2C try spending time with one individual=2C then the other=2C eh? C'mon=2C having dinner=2C seeing a movie=2C all togehter - why is that so difficult=3B and=2C paying the bills! Or=2C being=20 by oneself?! You know the drill - the good and the bad=2C but mostly=2C just an average life.=20 =20 Did that answer your question?! =20 =20 > Date: Fri=2C 4 Jun 2010 17:26:25 -0400 > From: aine.maire@gmail.com > To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] 1st Post >=20 > Hi Ray=2C I'm sorry I'm confused by your last paragraph. Are you looking = for a > third? There was a discussion recently about the difficulties such closed > triads can cause. Or are you saying that you want a third because you don= 't > want to have two separate relationships for yourself? >=20 > Just wondering. And good luck in whatever dynamic you are looking for. >=20 > Annie:) >=20 > On Fri=2C Jun 4=2C 2010 at 17:16=2C Raymond Domire = wrote: >=20 > > > > Personally=2C I'm trying to find someone that is looking > > for a relationship with my wife and I - and=2C not a friend with benefi= ts > > only. How about some responsibility for everyone=2C for a relationship. > > Dual relationships - one with my wife=2C and one with another man=2C > > doesn't work=2C for me. I would like to live what I preach/want! > > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l =20 _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search=2C chat and e-mail from your inbox= . http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=3DPID28326::T:WLMTAGL:O= N:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3= From desmondravenstone@yahoo.com Fri Jun 4 19:29:39 2010 Received: from web50504.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web50504.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.38.80]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id o54NTdkX031580 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2010 19:29:39 -0400 Received: (qmail 91378 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Jun 2010 23:29:39 -0000 Message-ID: <688849.90024.qm@web50504.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: F5OySioVM1nYwOX.kQfGGNP7S5a3aa7CNrVMvbAaeHQQGkk Yi78.f_gwPUvnAxDVpFPqPEEq75f5NUZg57lRAXeBOXu_taB54._uf6BxuS1 9svW2Is0HG8jgFP4p5x982EuWx_TgxkGapGrW40T6JyaRWvebMvA239I_irC O0IhJsVMwzeXAJWVqbikQ_IK0OBDTcwkLb7500GxykWvim09M0gwZ16cuZTw 4SoCbiXogGOQaikWwXuNJe8kyreO66jtIP_jS_VvF3yW_M_xuezBmzazYCr3 mp3ynnqxEf7rZglAix8AkzJs8gRw- Received: from [173.101.45.59] by web50504.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 04 Jun 2010 16:29:39 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.0.8 YahooMailWebService/0.8.103.269680 From: Desmond Ravenstone To: uupoly-l@uupa.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [UUPoly-L] UUPA on Facebook X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 23:29:40 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 16:29:39 -0700 (PDT) X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 23:29:40 -0000 OK folks, I know I'm not officially a leader of UUPA, but I've taken it upon myself to start a Facebook group for UUPA -- open (of course) much as this list is for discussion and info sharing. Already sent a number of invites to folks; join if you're on FB, and send invites to those on your friends list you believe might be interested. Desmond Ravenstone "What you call sin, I call the great spirit of love, which takes a thousand forms..." http://ravenstonesreflections.blogspot.com http://www.myspace.com/desmond_ravenstone From aine.maire@gmail.com Fri Jun 4 19:51:39 2010 Received: from mail-yw0-f199.google.com (mail-yw0-f199.google.com [209.85.211.199]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o54NpdCH000558 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2010 19:51:39 -0400 Received: by ywh37 with SMTP id 37so1713606ywh.2 for ; Fri, 04 Jun 2010 16:51:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.215.138 with SMTP id he10mr2944437qcb.60.1275695496173; Fri, 04 Jun 2010 16:51:36 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.48.133 with HTTP; Fri, 4 Jun 2010 16:51:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <21fe9.70246120.393a7d2e@aol.com> From: aine.maire@gmail.com Message-ID: To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] 1st Post X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 23:51:40 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 19:51:06 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 23:51:40 -0000 *Thank you. It does. I have recently entered a new relationship in addition to the one I've been in for nearly 3 years. I'm also a fulltime partner to my live-in partner, a fulltime pet parent, a fulltime student and fulltime employee. Plus I like to be alone in my own thoughts without distractions at least once in awhile.* *My primary live-in partner is a fulltime employee, fulltime partner, and fulltime pet parent. He also has a girlfriend. Sometimes we're on the phone or on a date with our respective other partner at the same time.* *From the outside looking in, triads look so neat and clearcut. Having been in two triads (one currently as the third, more or less as the friend with benefits) I have to say it ain't that simple. The human mind and heart are so complex, it's a wonder anyone ever stays with anyone else.* ** *So, yeah, I know a little about there being only 24 hours in a day.* ** *My best wishes to you and everyone else. I hope some other Ohioans from this list make it to the July 25th poly picnic. I'd love to meet more of you.* ** *Annie:)* -- *I think dogs are the most amazing creatures. They give unconditional love. For me, they are the role model for being alive. ~Gilda Radner You think dogs will not be in heaven? I tell you, they will be there long before any of us. ~Robert Louis Stevenson * On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 19:00, Raymond Domire wrote: > > Yes, I would like an individual that wants to be part > > of a triad! You think triads are difficult, try spending > > time with one individual, then the other, eh? C'mon, > > having dinner, seeing a movie, all togehter - why > > is that so difficult; and, paying the bills! Or, being > > by oneself?! You know the drill - the good and the bad, > > but mostly, just an average life. > > > > Did that answer your question?! > > > > > > > Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 17:26:25 -0400 > > From: aine.maire@gmail.com > > To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > > Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] 1st Post > > > > Hi Ray, I'm sorry I'm confused by your last paragraph. Are you looking > for a > > third? There was a discussion recently about the difficulties such closed > > triads can cause. Or are you saying that you want a third because you > don't > > want to have two separate relationships for yourself? > > > > Just wondering. And good luck in whatever dynamic you are looking for. > > > > Annie:) > > > > On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 17:16, Raymond Domire > wrote: > > > > > > > > Personally, I'm trying to find someone that is looking > > > for a relationship with my wife and I - and, not a friend with benefits > > > only. How about some responsibility for everyone, for a relationship. > > > Dual relationships - one with my wife, and one with another man, > > > doesn't work, for me. I would like to live what I preach/want! > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > > UUPoly-L mailing list > > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > > _________________________________________________________________ > The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. > > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > From fantine@sonic.net Fri Jun 4 20:09:09 2010 Received: from a.mail.sonic.net (a.mail.sonic.net [64.142.16.245]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o5508ZiS001815 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2010 20:09:09 -0400 Received: from FLOGGER3000 (75-101-18-7.dsl.static.sonic.net [75.101.18.7]) by a.mail.sonic.net (8.13.8.Beta0-Sonic/8.13.7) with ESMTP id o5508ZtS021997 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2010 17:08:35 -0700 From: "Fantine" To: Message-ID: <1A311F7BDCE64B81A658E589B6B57D1E@FLOGGER3000> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6856 Importance: Normal Thread-Index: AcsEQOn4MVkeLrScQfulTIkjK5yAHQAAaLTA In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5931 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by msb.ernest-doss.org id o5508ZiS001815 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] 1st Post X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2010 00:09:09 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 17:08:36 -0700 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2010 00:09:09 -0000 My preference is to go between spending time with A, spending time with B, spending time with A & B, and spending time ALONE (while A spends time with B or they do anything they please, including spending time with D, E, F & G). I have been in situations where a serious amount of time was spent in threesome and it takes ENERGY, especially for an introvert. And when there was any imbalance of connections, there was holy hell to pay. Resting quietly while my partners go play, 'Cesca From fantine@sonic.net Fri Jun 4 20:17:42 2010 Received: from b.mail.sonic.net (b.mail.sonic.net [64.142.19.5]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o550H8Gq002630 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2010 20:17:41 -0400 Received: from FLOGGER3000 (75-101-18-7.dsl.static.sonic.net [75.101.18.7]) by b.mail.sonic.net (8.13.8.Beta0-Sonic/8.13.7) with ESMTP id o550H7LL030678 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2010 17:17:07 -0700 From: "Fantine" To: Message-ID: <129CC080AB2842C3805D71D6746A7D5B@FLOGGER3000> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6856 Importance: Normal Thread-Index: AcsEPdVmfrcm0/WGQSeMxJIq+3RKNAABn99A In-Reply-To: <688849.90024.qm@web50504.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5931 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by msb.ernest-doss.org id o550H8Gq002630 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] UUPA on Facebook X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2010 00:17:42 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 17:17:08 -0700 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2010 00:17:42 -0000 Tell me what to search on. UUPA along didn't work. 'Cesca -----Original Message----- From: uupoly-l-bounces+fantine=sonic.net@uupa.org [mailto:uupoly-l-bounces+fantine=sonic.net@uupa.org] On Behalf Of Desmond Ravenstone Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 4:30 PM To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Subject: [UUPoly-L] UUPA on Facebook OK folks, I know I'm not officially a leader of UUPA, but I've taken it upon myself to start a Facebook group for UUPA -- open (of course) much as this list is for discussion and info sharing. Already sent a number of invites to folks; join if you're on FB, and send invites to those on your friends list you believe might be interested. Desmond Ravenstone "What you call sin, I call the great spirit of love, which takes a thousand forms..." http://ravenstonesreflections.blogspot.com http://www.myspace.com/desmond_ravenstone _______________________________________________ The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. UUPoly-L mailing list UUPoly-L@uupa.org http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l From aine.maire@gmail.com Fri Jun 4 20:29:47 2010 Received: from mail-gy0-f175.google.com (mail-gy0-f175.google.com [209.85.160.175]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o550Tkex003740 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2010 20:29:47 -0400 Received: by gyg10 with SMTP id 10so1405503gyg.20 for ; Fri, 04 Jun 2010 17:29:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.222.211 with SMTP id ih19mr1015452qcb.82.1275697785673; Fri, 04 Jun 2010 17:29:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.48.133 with HTTP; Fri, 4 Jun 2010 17:29:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1A311F7BDCE64B81A658E589B6B57D1E@FLOGGER3000> References: <1A311F7BDCE64B81A658E589B6B57D1E@FLOGGER3000> From: aine.maire@gmail.com Message-ID: To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] 1st Post X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2010 00:29:47 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 20:29:15 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2010 00:29:47 -0000 *Yes, there is hell to pay. Even a perceived imbalance is as real as the real thing. Most of mine are perceived and the result of issues I know I have. It's a start towards eliminating or reducing those negative perceptions.* ** *Poly has helped me grow so much as a person. I've learned more than I ever wanted to know about myself and my limitations! lol.* ** *Annie:)* I think dogs are the most amazing creatures. They give unconditional love. For me, they are the role model for being alive. ~Gilda Radner You think dogs will not be in heaven? I tell you, they will be there long before any of us. ~Robert Louis Stevenson From rpaul79@hotmail.com Fri Jun 4 20:46:28 2010 Received: from snt0-omc2-s36.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc2-s36.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.111]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o550jtDs005044 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2010 20:46:28 -0400 Received: from SNT113-W11 ([65.55.90.73]) by snt0-omc2-s36.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Fri, 4 Jun 2010 17:45:34 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [74.218.35.180] From: Raymond Domire To: Importance: High In-Reply-To: References: <21fe9.70246120.393a7d2e@aol.com>, , , , MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jun 2010 00:45:34.0220 (UTC) FILETIME=[682E1CC0:01CB0448] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] 1st Post X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2010 00:46:29 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 20:45:34 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2010 00:46:29 -0000 Ok=2C I have the date and the city=2C 25th July in Columbus. I tried to sign up for the Yahoo group=2C but failed. Plus=2C I really don't want to be on another list group - my time is spread too thin now! =20 Is there someone that I can call=2C or get an invite from - I guess I need to be "approved" to come=2C eh? =20 Ray =20 > From: aine.maire@gmail.com > Date: Fri=2C 4 Jun 2010 19:51:06 -0400 > To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] 1st Post >=20 > *Thank you. It does. I have recently entered a new relationship in additi= on > to the one I've been in for nearly 3 years. I'm also a fulltime partner t= o > my live-in partner=2C a fulltime pet parent=2C a fulltime student and ful= ltime > employee. Plus I like to be alone in my own thoughts without distractions= at > least once in awhile.* >=20 > *My primary live-in partner is a fulltime employee=2C fulltime partner=2C= and > fulltime pet parent. He also has a girlfriend. Sometimes we're on the pho= ne > or on a date with our respective other partner at the same time.* > *From the outside looking in=2C triads look so neat and clearcut. Having = been > in two triads (one currently as the third=2C more or less as the friend w= ith > benefits) I have to say it ain't that simple. The human mind and heart ar= e > so complex=2C it's a wonder anyone ever stays with anyone else.* > ** > *So=2C yeah=2C I know a little about there being only 24 hours in a day.* > ** > *My best wishes to you and everyone else. I hope some other Ohioans from > this list make it to the July 25th poly picnic. I'd love to meet more of > you.* > ** > *Annie:)* > -- >=20 > *I think dogs are the most amazing creatures. They give unconditional lov= e. > For me=2C they are the role model for being alive. > ~Gilda Radner >=20 > You think dogs will not be in heaven? I tell you=2C they will be there lo= ng > before any of us. > ~Robert Louis Stevenson > * >=20 > On Fri=2C Jun 4=2C 2010 at 19:00=2C Raymond Domire = wrote: >=20 > > > > Yes=2C I would like an individual that wants to be part > > > > of a triad! You think triads are difficult=2C try spending > > > > time with one individual=2C then the other=2C eh? C'mon=2C > > > > having dinner=2C seeing a movie=2C all togehter - why > > > > is that so difficult=3B and=2C paying the bills! Or=2C being > > > > by oneself?! You know the drill - the good and the bad=2C > > > > but mostly=2C just an average life. > > > > > > > > Did that answer your question?! > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Fri=2C 4 Jun 2010 17:26:25 -0400 > > > From: aine.maire@gmail.com > > > To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > > > Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] 1st Post > > > > > > Hi Ray=2C I'm sorry I'm confused by your last paragraph. Are you look= ing > > for a > > > third? There was a discussion recently about the difficulties such cl= osed > > > triads can cause. Or are you saying that you want a third because you > > don't > > > want to have two separate relationships for yourself? > > > > > > Just wondering. And good luck in whatever dynamic you are looking for= . > > > > > > Annie:) > > > > > > On Fri=2C Jun 4=2C 2010 at 17:16=2C Raymond Domire > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Personally=2C I'm trying to find someone that is looking > > > > for a relationship with my wife and I - and=2C not a friend with be= nefits > > > > only. How about some responsibility for everyone=2C for a relations= hip. > > > > Dual relationships - one with my wife=2C and one with another man= =2C > > > > doesn't work=2C for me. I would like to live what I preach/want! > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > > > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yours= elf. > > > UUPoly-L mailing list > > > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > > > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > The New Busy is not the old busy. Search=2C chat and e-mail from your i= nbox. > > > > http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=3DPID28326::T:WLMTA= GL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 > > _______________________________________________ > > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yoursel= f. > > UUPoly-L mailing list > > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l =20 _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail has tools for the New Busy. Search=2C chat and e-mail from your inb= ox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=3DPID28326::T:WLMTAGL:O= N:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_1= From desmondravenstone@yahoo.com Fri Jun 4 20:57:12 2010 Received: from web50501.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web50501.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.38.77]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id o550vC6a006044 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2010 20:57:12 -0400 Received: (qmail 51533 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Jun 2010 00:57:12 -0000 Message-ID: <180044.50698.qm@web50501.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 1lX.18MVM1lnCrwsjAcgwBwyYU50tJheqLb1785on0yeT4g aIJnu4q6lttpla5cqtoD.Q5NoWtHgP8Tgp_1ND4bhy18pgvCug3DhTqYvwRR VEZn4xWB_c7saHOzKLQu3ld7ro2Z_PfT_HY0canVkKr6IrU7OVUYF.RrdyHL 7CzKdrxelAFhsgXizi0KtkRwtpK_eSfQDfinBaSnmwc3l_fmu_ExJrPn2NZJ ci_VfhMsAO3mRFrMpTdIs2gDP38GYU7kOSUYPzOac8YzBYDq9jqY9YDpvKA1 i6Se_0w2sfXskvvXOVmJHoz6OoC8- Received: from [173.101.45.59] by web50501.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 04 Jun 2010 17:57:12 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.0.8 YahooMailWebService/0.8.103.269680 From: Desmond Ravenstone To: uupoly-l@uupa.org In-Reply-To: <129CC080AB2842C3805D71D6746A7D5B@FLOGGER3000> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by msb.ernest-doss.org id o550vC6a006044 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] UUPA on Facebook X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2010 00:57:12 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 17:57:12 -0700 (PDT) X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2010 00:57:12 -0000 It's "UUs for Polyamory Awareness" Desmond Ravenstone "What you call sin, I call the great spirit of love, which takes a thousand forms..." http://ravenstonesreflections.blogspot.com http://www.myspace.com/desmond_ravenstone --- On Fri, 6/4/10, Fantine wrote: > From: Fantine > Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] UUPA on Facebook > To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > Date: Friday, June 4, 2010, 8:17 PM > Tell me what to search on.  UUPA > along didn't work. > >     'Cesca > > -----Original Message----- > From: uupoly-l-bounces+fantine=sonic.net@uupa.org > [mailto:uupoly-l-bounces+fantine=sonic.net@uupa.org] > On > Behalf Of Desmond Ravenstone > Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 4:30 PM > To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > Subject: [UUPoly-L] UUPA on Facebook > > OK folks, I know I'm not officially a leader of UUPA, > but I've taken it upon myself to start a Facebook group > for UUPA -- open (of course) much as this list is for > discussion and info sharing. > > Already sent a number of invites to folks; join if > you're on FB, and send invites to those on your friends > list you believe might be interested. > > Desmond Ravenstone > > "What you call sin, I call the great spirit of love, > which takes a thousand forms..." > > http://ravenstonesreflections.blogspot.com > http://www.myspace.com/desmond_ravenstone > > >       > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to > reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal > about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > From fantine@sonic.net Fri Jun 4 21:45:30 2010 Received: from a.mail.sonic.net (a.mail.sonic.net [64.142.16.245]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o551iuL0008770 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2010 21:45:30 -0400 Received: from FLOGGER3000 (75-101-18-7.dsl.static.sonic.net [75.101.18.7]) by a.mail.sonic.net (8.13.8.Beta0-Sonic/8.13.7) with ESMTP id o551iu3O002057 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2010 18:44:56 -0700 From: "Fantine" To: Message-ID: <60CE70A3B40B4CE5B0FA1065F4803769@FLOGGER3000> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6856 Importance: Normal Thread-Index: AcsESg6lSPV6B4PgQhiTO6UXbwUp7AABpbqg In-Reply-To: <180044.50698.qm@web50501.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5931 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by msb.ernest-doss.org id o551iuL0008770 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] UUPA on Facebook X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2010 01:45:30 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 18:44:57 -0700 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2010 01:45:30 -0000 Thanks, you'll see me there! -----Original Message----- From: uupoly-l-bounces+fantine=sonic.net@uupa.org [mailto:uupoly-l-bounces+fantine=sonic.net@uupa.org] On Behalf Of Desmond Ravenstone Sent: Friday, June 04, 2010 5:57 PM To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] UUPA on Facebook It's "UUs for Polyamory Awareness" Desmond Ravenstone "What you call sin, I call the great spirit of love, which takes a thousand forms..." http://ravenstonesreflections.blogspot.com http://www.myspace.com/desmond_ravenstone --- On Fri, 6/4/10, Fantine wrote: > From: Fantine > Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] UUPA on Facebook > To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > Date: Friday, June 4, 2010, 8:17 PM > Tell me what to search on.  UUPA > along didn't work. > >     'Cesca From tafl.hols@everestkc.net Fri Jun 4 22:26:24 2010 Received: from ksle966mailxc4.everestkc.net (ksle966mailxc4.everestkc.net [64.126.4.156]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o552PpYh011005 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 2010 22:26:24 -0400 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII; format=flowed Received: from [192.168.1.3] ([unknown] [64.126.44.125]) by ksle966mailxc4.everestkc.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 64bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0L3I00464RWRWM60@ksle966mailxc4.everestkc.net> for uupoly-l@uupa.org; Fri, 04 Jun 2010 21:22:06 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: In-reply-to: References: To: uupoly-l@uupa.org From: "Larry D. Hols" Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Really obscure help wanted... X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2010 02:26:24 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 04 Jun 2010 12:02:38 -0500 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 05 Jun 2010 02:26:24 -0000 Hallo, >I'm no expert but if you type these keywords into google: > >Kathaka Black Yajur Veda 37.14 > Try searching with Google Scholar. Larry From dorothyk@charter.net Sun Jun 6 23:50:56 2010 Received: from mta21.charter.net (mta21.charter.net [216.33.127.81]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o573oqul031956 for ; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 23:50:56 -0400 Received: from imp10 ([10.20.200.15]) by mta21.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.09.02.04 201-2219-117-106-20090629) with ESMTP id <20100607035040.HNHM75.mta21.charter.net@imp10>; Sun, 6 Jun 2010 23:50:40 -0400 Received: from evo ([97.87.15.160]) by imp10 with smtp.charter.net id Srqc1e0073TCDKV05rqeVU; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 23:50:39 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Y7cacqHOtdcA:10 a=0qYQvVkOOIcA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=IVgIdVCEAAAA:8 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=IllhrzQ5AAAA:8 a=R6nW7j5oAAAA:8 a=_prM2uguF4RQzFRfBjwA:9 a=2Hb1BhUYeEb0vY8p7CIA:7 a=w7PwEGVrXtIa4VAtjPiADoTYsNAA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=FU91QKYkdIIA:10 a=hUswqBWy9Q8A:10 a=3eoJJSWtpq8A:10 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=ytUx1HtqjncA:10 a=caYroWImUiqZWAx3:21 a=Cp_Un4XMHslPR-Qc:21 From: "Dorothy Krause" To: Message-ID: <4B376AB14D674974A7F0B039C42BCB69@evo> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6856 Importance: Normal Thread-Index: Acr9t65ivmEKNtB/RWarAVc7zWkctwIOaQxg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5931 In-reply-to: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by msb.ernest-doss.org id o573oqul031956 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Notice of UUPA Membership Meeting X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 03:50:57 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 22:50:28 -0500 X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 03:50:57 -0000 Wanted to find out if there are folks on the list from the Madison, WI area? Two of us from the area are interested in regrouping to reform a Madison Chapter which was started by petered out awhile back. I'll be at GA and will plan on attending the annual meeting, the other will not. Would like to connect whether online, in town, or at GA. And will look forward to seeing others at GA! Dorothy -----Original Message----- From: uupoly-l-bounces+dorothyk=charter.net@uupa.org [mailto:uupoly-l-bounces+dorothyk=charter.net@uupa.org] On Behalf Of JasmineGld@aol.com Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 11:13 AM To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Subject: [UUPoly-L] Notice of UUPA Membership Meeting NOTICE of UUPA Annual Membership Meeting You are hereby invited to attend the tenth Annual Membership Meeting of Unitarian Universalists for Polyamory Awareness. Saturday, June 26 1:00 pm to 2:30 pm Hilton Garden Inn 1101 4th Ave S Minneapolis MN Directions from the Convention Center: The Hilton Garden Inn is across the street from the Minneapolis Convention Center For meeting room number, check at the UUPA booth in the Exhibit Hall, or contact Harlan White, UUPA President, at mnstrm@erosong.net on or after Wednesday, June 23. Attendance via conference call will be available. To attend via conference call: 1. Notify the Secretary by June 14 at uupa@uupa.org of your plans to attend by teleconference. The Secretary will give you the dial in number and PIN. If you think you might attend but aren't sure, please let us know so we can make adequate teleconference preparations. 2. Disable call waiting before dialing, usually done by dialing *70 3. Dial the conference number at 12:50pm Central Daylight Time 4. When prompted, enter the PIN 5. Please use a phone with a mute feature and keep your phone on mute when listening. This will reduce background noise and improve the quality of participation for everyone. 6. The moderator will attempt to give teleconference participants adequate opportunities to participate in discussions. Active members of UUPA who have been members for at least thirty days prior to the meeting are eligible to vote on business at this meeting. Inactive members are encouraged to renew their memberships prior to the meeting, which will restore their voting eligibility. Please check your address label and confirm your membership status. If you believe there is an error in your membership status, please contact UUPA at the contact info listed above. This UUPA meeting is arranged separately from the UUA General Assembly and is held outside the Minneapolis Convention Center. The UUPA meeting does not require GA registration. UUPA encourages participation in General Assembly. (www.uua.org/events/generalassembly/). Please visit the UUPA booth in the Exhibit Hall for information about UUPA social gatherings during General Assembly, or check for updates on the UUPoly email list. The UUPA Board of Trustees looks forward to seeing you in Minneapolis! Sincerely, Jasmine Walston Secretary, UUPA ~~~~~~~~~ 2010 Annual Membership Meeting of Unitarian Universalists for Polyamory Awareness Agenda 1. Opening reading 2. Appointment of moderator and recording secretary 3. Establishment of quorum 4. Reports a. Minutes, 2009 Annual Meeting b. Membership report c. Treasurer's report d. Chapters report 5. Election of trustees 6. Update on relationship with the UUA 7. Discussion of current and proposed activities 8. Other business UUPA is an independent organization. UUPA holds its annual membership meeting each year during the UUA General Assembly. _______________________________________________ The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. UUPoly-L mailing list UUPoly-L@uupa.org http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l From sophygurl@yahoo.com Mon Jun 7 01:12:19 2010 Received: from web50301.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web50301.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.38.55]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id o575CJIo004335 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 2010 01:12:19 -0400 Received: (qmail 21661 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Jun 2010 05:12:19 -0000 Message-ID: <439591.20093.qm@web50301.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: KPnNDaIVM1mL1.2wZQ3G_l60o1jOfLoVFvzNfJBLmU6ZUOG 3PG_xTIpJ9JyCaKs4PmUpdjamxnEce7kWvOq81JnxjVwwCRnhte5nKLrz8Vo ngy64eNqCjZFLiKYSM2z5zvpYuwMyvvOnDkBUK.HBCLxYx0nv87kqohGnwNx SeqvdkTeCpwW8WNAbq635vMoql9P434qFDAxwG7qZaMx418omcU05vPUfHU6 9JTaINk9FN3v887QxsVDPuD1uwHHVw8MSLQvZSW5zSj.opdcpVN1HSzJC3lx m2tDNh8zYHmWW7I2MG6k07pZ0LwDr1vLJZKwJNFjyoMjc7wXix7KGk1Gfull xoMde.g-- Received: from [97.87.56.208] by web50301.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 06 Jun 2010 22:12:19 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.0.8 YahooMailWebService/0.8.103.269680 From: Rosemary Amico To: uupoly-l@uupa.org In-Reply-To: <4B376AB14D674974A7F0B039C42BCB69@evo> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by msb.ernest-doss.org id o575CJIo004335 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Notice of UUPA Membership Meeting X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 05:12:19 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2010 22:12:19 -0700 (PDT) X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Jun 2010 05:12:19 -0000 I'm in Madison, WI -Rosemary http://sophy.livejournal.com/ "The less I seek my source for some definitive The closer I am to fine." Indigo Girls --- On Sun, 6/6/10, Dorothy Krause wrote: > From: Dorothy Krause > Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Notice of UUPA Membership Meeting > To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > Date: Sunday, June 6, 2010, 8:50 PM > Wanted to find out if there are folks > on the list from the Madison, WI area? > Two of us from the area are interested in regrouping to > reform a Madison > Chapter which was started by petered out awhile back. I'll > be at GA and will > plan on attending the annual meeting, the other will not. > Would like to > connect whether online, in town, or at GA. > > And will look forward to seeing others at GA! > > Dorothy > > -----Original Message----- > From: uupoly-l-bounces+dorothyk=charter.net@uupa.org > [mailto:uupoly-l-bounces+dorothyk=charter.net@uupa.org] > On Behalf Of > JasmineGld@aol.com > Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 11:13 AM > To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > Subject: [UUPoly-L] Notice of UUPA Membership Meeting > > > NOTICE of UUPA Annual Membership Meeting > > You are hereby  invited to attend the tenth Annual > Membership Meeting of > Unitarian Universalists  for Polyamory > Awareness.  > > Saturday, June 26 > 1:00 pm to  2:30 pm > Hilton Garden Inn > 1101 4th Ave S > Minneapolis MN    > > Directions from the Convention Center:  > The Hilton Garden  Inn is across the street from the > Minneapolis Convention > Center > > For  meeting room number, check at the UUPA booth in > the Exhibit Hall, or > contact  Harlan White, UUPA President, at mnstrm@erosong.net > on or after > Wednesday,  June 23. > > Attendance via conference call will be available. To  > attend via conference > call: > > 1.      Notify  the Secretary by June > 14 at uupa@uupa.org of > your plans to > attend by  teleconference. The Secretary will give you > the dial in number > and PIN. If you  think you might attend but aren't > sure, please let us know > so > we can make  adequate teleconference preparations. > 2.       Disable call waiting > before dialing, usually done by dialing *70  > 3.      Dial the conference number at > 12:50pm  Central Daylight Time > 4.      When prompted, enter  the PIN > 5.      Please use a phone with a mute  > feature and keep your phone on mute > when listening. This will reduce background  noise and > improve the quality > of participation for  everyone. > 6.      The moderator will attempt to > give  teleconference participants > adequate opportunities to participate in  discussions. > > > Active members of UUPA who have been members for at  > least thirty days > prior to the meeting are eligible to vote on business at > this  meeting. > Inactive > members are encouraged to renew their memberships prior to > the  meeting, > which will restore their voting eligibility. Please check > your address > label > and confirm your membership status. If you believe there is > an error in  > your membership status, please contact UUPA at the contact > info listed > above.  > > This UUPA meeting is arranged separately from the UUA  > General Assembly and > is held outside the Minneapolis Convention Center. The > UUPA  meeting does > not require GA registration. UUPA encourages participation > in  General > Assembly.  > (www.uua.org/events/generalassembly/).  > > Please visit the UUPA booth in the Exhibit Hall for > information  about UUPA > social gatherings during General Assembly, or check for > updates on  the > UUPoly email list. > > The UUPA Board of Trustees looks forward to  seeing > you in Minneapolis! > > Sincerely,  > > > > Jasmine Walston > Secretary, UUPA  > > ~~~~~~~~~ > > 2010 Annual Membership Meeting of  > Unitarian Universalists for Polyamory  Awareness > Agenda > > 1.      Opening  reading > > 2.      Appointment of moderator  and > recording secretary > > 3.       Establishment of quorum > > 4.       Reports > a.      Minutes, 2009 Annual  Meeting > b.      Membership  report > c.      Treasurer's  report > d.      Chapters  report > > 5.      Election of  trustees > > 6.      Update on relationship  with > the UUA > > 7.      Discussion of current  and > proposed activities > > 8.      Other  business > > UUPA is an independent organization. UUPA holds its > annual  membership > meeting each year during the UUA General Assembly. > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal > about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal > about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > From JasmineGld@aol.com Thu Jun 17 10:26:56 2010 Received: from imr-da05.mx.aol.com (imr-da05.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.147]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o5HEQNlD017918 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 2010 10:26:56 -0400 Received: from imo-da02.mx.aol.com (imo-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.200]) by imr-da05.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o5HEQ79I008245 for ; Thu, 17 Jun 2010 10:26:07 -0400 Received: from JasmineGld@aol.com by imo-da02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.9.) id g.ce6.60433098 (43908) for ; Thu, 17 Jun 2010 10:25:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from magic-d26.mail.aol.com (magic-d26.mail.aol.com [172.19.146.160]) by cia-dc07.mx.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILCIADC075-ab844c1a307722e; Thu, 17 Jun 2010 10:25:59 -0400 From: JasmineGld@aol.com Message-ID: <115e4.57bc6e08.394b8a77@aol.com> To: uupoly-l@uupa.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5379 X-AOL-ORIG-IP: 74.130.8.252 X-AOL-IP: 172.19.146.160 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-AOL-SENDER: JasmineGld@aol.com Subject: [UUPoly-L] UUPA meeting, dial-in number changed X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 14:26:56 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 10:25:59 EDT X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 14:26:56 -0000 Dear UUPA members, UUPA just learned that our conference service has changed its dial-in number. If you plan to attend the UUPA Membership Meeting on June 26 at 1:00pm CDT, please contact the Secretary at uupa@uupa.org to request the new dial-in number and PIN and to give us your RSVP for the meeting. If your membership has lapsed, please visit www.uupa.org/join to renew or to send updated contact information. Thank you! Jasmine Walston UUPA Secretary ---> --------------------------------------------------------- NOTICE of UUPA Annual Membership Meeting You are hereby invited to attend the tenth Annual Membership Meeting of Unitarian Universalists for Polyamory Awareness. Saturday, June 26 1:00 pm to 2:30 pm Hilton Garden Inn 1101 4th Ave S Minneapolis MN Directions from the Convention Center: The Hilton Garden Inn is across the street from the Minneapolis Convention Center For meeting room number, check at the UUPA booth in the Exhibit Hall, or call Harlan White, UUPA President, at 206-979-8534 between 10:00am and 8:00pm CDT during General Assembly. Attendance via conference call will be available. To attend via conference call: 1. Notify the Secretary by June 14 at uupa@uupa.org or 812-944-7517 of your plans to attend by teleconference. The Secretary will give you the dial in number and PIN. If you think you might attend but aren't sure, please let us know so we can make adequate teleconference preparations. 2. Disable call waiting before dialing, usually done by dialing *70 3. Dial the conference number at 12:50pm Central Daylight Time 4. When prompted, enter the PIN 5. Please use a phone with a mute feature and keep your phone on mute when listening. This will reduce background noise and improve the quality of participation for everyone. 6. The moderator will attempt to give teleconference participants adequate opportunities to participate in discussions. Active members of UUPA who have been members for at least thirty days prior to the meeting are eligible to vote on business at this meeting. Inactive members are encouraged to renew their memberships prior to the meeting, which will restore their voting eligibility. Please check your address label and confirm your membership status. If you believe there is an error in your membership status, please contact UUPA at the contact info listed above. This UUPA meeting is arranged separately from the UUA General Assembly and is held outside the Minneapolis Convention Center. The UUPA meeting does not require GA registration. UUPA encourages participation in General Assembly. (www.uua.org/events/generalassembly/). Please visit the UUPA booth in the Exhibit Hall for information about UUPA social gatherings during General Assembly, or check for updates on the UUPoly email list. The UUPA Board of Trustees looks forward to seeing you in Minneapolis! Sincerely, Jasmine Walston Secretary, UUPA ~~~~~~~~~ 2010 Annual Membership Meeting of Unitarian Universalists for Polyamory Awareness Agenda 1. Opening reading 2. Appointment of moderator and recording secretary 3. Establishment of quorum 4. Reports a. Minutes, 2009 Annual Meeting b. Membership report c. Treasurer's report d. Chapters report 5. Election of trustees 6. Update on relationship with the UUA 7. Discussion of current and proposed activities 8. Other business UUPA is an independent organization. UUPA holds its annual membership meeting each year during the UUA General Assembly. From kb4wyr@fhrd.net Sun Jun 20 23:04:35 2010 Received: from trueband.net (director.trueband.net [216.163.120.8]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id o5L342Ig025370 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2010 23:04:35 -0400 Received: (qmail 15552 invoked by uid 1006); 21 Jun 2010 03:04:01 -0000 Received: from kb4wyr@fhrd.net by rs0 by uid 1003 with qmail-scanner-1.16 (spamassassin: 3.2.5. Clear:SA:0(2.0/100.0):. Processed in 2.493105 secs); 21 Jun 2010 03:04:01 -0000 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.0 required=100.0 X-Spam-Level: ** Received: from unknown (HELO trueband.net) (172.16.0.19) by director.trueband.net with SMTP; 21 Jun 2010 03:03:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 16623 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2010 03:03:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Verdigrismobile) (173.155.58.135) by -v with SMTP; 21 Jun 2010 03:03:56 -0000 From: "Christine Heinsohn" To: , "'Kansas Polyamory'" , "'OKPoly'" , References: <4BE6098C.8010305@fhrd.net> In-Reply-To: <4BE6098C.8010305@fhrd.net> Message-ID: <008801cb10ee$5eb0b150$1c1213f0$@net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 thread-index: AcrvE10rnBYwte+2TYC6eahzehDDOAh2OCYQ Content-Language: en-us Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] [KCpoly] June Campout and Amateur Radio Field Day Event X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 03:04:35 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 22:03:46 -0500 X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 03:04:35 -0000 Just want to remind folks that the campout is still on for this coming weekend. Looking forward to you all arriving! Kind of wanted to get an assessment of food desires that folks might have. I need to make a shopping trip later in the week and can pick up things then. In particular, besides honey, white sugar, and brown sugar, is there any other sweetener that anyone would like to have available for their coffee? We will have fresh roasted coffee from Delightful David's Coffee Roastery. Typically we have the caffeinated variety, would anyone like to have the decaffeinated available? If those who are coming would please give a quick shout here with the number in your party and your expected arrival time that would be great! We have plenty of camping spots for those that have not yet let us know that they will be coming. It's not too late to let us know. If you need directions, please just respond to me and I will get them to you! Things you should know: 1. We have a creek that runs through our property. You all are welcome to explore it, but please wear shoes in the creek. This is farm country and has been for years, no telling what's on the bottom. You will need protection. 2. Up around the house clothing is required. Down by the creek, clothing is optional except for shoes. Shoes are a must wear by the creek. 3. We have one shower and it's rather crude. It's best to announce to those in the basement you are going to take as shower. Also as there will be several of us here, please keep the showers a reasonable length so that everyone can have their turn. Things that you could do while you are here (Besides the list that David put together below): 1. If the creek does not thrill you for swimming, Marion has a covered pool that is open on the weekends for open swim. It's only two dollars per person. 2. If you want a massage by a great masseuse, please let me know and I will see if mine can schedule one for the time you are here. She is only 17 miles from here. That may sound like a long ways for city folks, but for us it is just around the corner. 3. The Tallgrass Prairie National Park is only about 20 miles from our house. They will have interpretive events on Saturday. The School house on the park property will be open in the afternoon. Might be fun for the kids that show up. From: KCpoly@yahoogroups.com [mailto:KCpoly@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David Heinsohn Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 8:02 PM To: Kansas Polyamory; OKPoly; KCPoly@yahoogroups.com; uupoly-l@uupa.org Subject: [KCpoly] June Campout and Amateur Radio Field Day Event Good Morning to all the poly folk in and around Kansas! This is a reminder for all of you that there's going to be a Poly oriented camping get together that will include some amateur radio fun for those so inclined, on the weekend of June 25 - 27. Mark your calendars and plan on being there for some or all of the fun. So what are we going to do? Good question, glad you asked. 1. Eat some good food! 2. Enjoy visiting with our poly friends 3. Eat some good food! 4. Camp out in the best camping month of the year 5. Eat some good food 6. Drink some good coffee 7. Do some amateur radio operating 8. Eat some good food 9. Swim in the creek 10. Watch some movies 11. Eat some good food 12. Take some walks in the country 13. Drink too MUCH coffee 14. Go fishing in the creek 15. Eat some good fresh fish! 16. Lay around in the sun 17. Play with the kids 18. Drink way too much coffee! 19. Stay up really late playing with the radios 20. Stay up really late playing with . . . . . . ;-) 21. If there is enough interest, we might get a massage therapist to come out and work some of us over. 22. Did I mention that we might drink some good coffee and eat some good food? 23. Do what ever else you might do with "family" on an nice weekend in the Flint Hills. Where is this thing going to be held? Another good question. It'll be at our house, out in the middle of no where, between Elmdale and Marion, KS. About 45 mi. West of Emporia. For complete driving directions let us know by private email that you're coming and need directions. We'll be glad to send them to you. What do I need to bring? Yet another good question. You're really good as asking good questions. Someplace to sleep, like a tent, camper, motorhome, or $$$$$ for a motel or B&B room. Some food. (enough to feed your tribe but not the entire group) Some clothes appropriate to the weather. Not much else. You said food, and indicated above that we might have some good food. So who's going to cook? Wow, more good questions. Normally we throw all the food at Chris and make her slave away in the kitchen. Well that's not entirely true, but it's close. In general we've combined our foods and eaten together. We might do some grilling. We may play stump the chef with Chris and anyone else that feels creative. BUT, you can do camp food for your own tribe if you prefer. Oh, and if you can, help cleaning up after meals helps the chef/s be more creative for the next meal. So when should we get there? The short answer to that one is when you can. The longer answer is that we'll start gathering Friday night, whenever you can here. We'll break up Sunday afternoon, but probably late. Now if you're really energetic you can show up the weekend before and help us get ready. Chris and I've taken the week before the big event off. Much of that time we'll be doing prep for the campout, gardening, house cleaning, mowing, stuff like that. Some of the time we'll be doing Dr.s appointments and stuff so we don't have to miss work. If you'd like to come out help out, let us know. How much is this shindig going to cost me??? Oh, it's cheap! Only $500/person, $300 per child under 12. I'm kidding, I'm kidding!!! Really I'm kidding! There is *NO CHARGE!* This isn't about making money, it's about getting together with friends. What's this Ham Radio stuff? The weekend of our camp out is the weekend of the largest Ham Radio event of the year in the US. We radio nuts take our radios, antennas, computers, and all the other stuff out of our normal radio rooms and set up temporary stations. If you're a ham, of any level license, you're welcome to participate. If you're not a ham, but are a bit curious, it's a great time to see a little bit a mayhem on the radio. I don't plan on putting in a huge radio effort, but it's always fun. So now you tell me what questions you want to ask that I've not managed to answer for you. Please let us know, either via the list, or better yet via personal email, if you even think you might be able to make it. Looking Forward to Seeing YOU in June, David & Chris From mnstrm@erosong.net Wed Jun 23 18:51:21 2010 Received: from mail-pw0-f47.google.com (mail-pw0-f47.google.com [209.85.160.47]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o5NMpKsp009410 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 2010 18:51:20 -0400 Received: by pwj10 with SMTP id 10so1248997pwj.20 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 2010 15:51:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.61.35 with SMTP id j35mr8061756wfa.124.1277333477192; Wed, 23 Jun 2010 15:51:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.251.19 with HTTP; Wed, 23 Jun 2010 15:51:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Moonstorm Erosong To: Uupoly-L Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: [UUPoly-L] UUPA Membership Meeting Room Number X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 22:51:21 -0000 X-Original-Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 17:51:17 -0500 X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 22:51:21 -0000 As previously announced, the 2010 UUPA membership meeting will be at the following time and place. Saturday, June 26 1:00 pm to 2:30 pm Hilton Garden Inn 1101 4th Ave S Minneapolis MN We now know that the room number for the meeting is room 602. See you there! 'Storm From mnstrm@erosong.net Wed Jun 23 18:56:14 2010 Received: from mail-px0-f175.google.com (mail-px0-f175.google.com [209.85.212.175]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o5NMuEBl010097 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 2010 18:56:14 -0400 Received: by pxi2 with SMTP id 2so671816pxi.20 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 2010 15:56:11 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.149.36 with SMTP id w36mr7941917wfd.228.1277333771115; Wed, 23 Jun 2010 15:56:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.251.19 with HTTP; Wed, 23 Jun 2010 15:56:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Moonstorm Erosong To: Uupoly-L Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: [UUPoly-L] UUPA breakfasts at General Assembly X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 22:56:15 -0000 X-Original-Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 17:56:10 -0500 X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 22:56:15 -0000 For all the UUPoly folk who are going to be at General Assembly in Minneapolis this week, you are invited to join us for breakfast each morning from 0730 till 0845. The location is: Hilton Garden Inn 1101 4th Ave S Minneapolis MN This hotel is basically right accross the street from the convention center and has a nice breakfast buffet. So join us when you can. 'Storm From mnstrm@erosong.net Thu Jun 24 01:02:54 2010 Received: from mail-pw0-f47.google.com (mail-pw0-f47.google.com [209.85.160.47]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o5O52rc6028216 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 01:02:53 -0400 Received: by pwj10 with SMTP id 10so1339556pwj.20 for ; Wed, 23 Jun 2010 22:02:50 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.151.5 with SMTP id y5mr8317017wfd.190.1277355770864; Wed, 23 Jun 2010 22:02:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.251.19 with HTTP; Wed, 23 Jun 2010 22:02:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Moonstorm Erosong To: Uupoly-L , Erosong Tribe Email List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: [UUPoly-L] 2010 UUA General Assembly, Day 1 X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 05:02:55 -0000 X-Original-Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 22:02:50 -0700 X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 05:02:55 -0000 So here I am in Minneapolis for the 2010 Unitarian Universalist Association General Assembly. I arrived by Delta airlines yesterday afternoon and in the evening I had dinner with my fellow board member of Unitarian Universallists for Polyamory Awareness, Jasmine Walston and her husband Rodney, who had just spent two days driving up from Louisville. After dinner I returned to my hotel and enjoyed a good night's sleep. This morning I was up pretty early and after getting breakfast at my hotel's buffet I went over to the Minneapolis Convention Center, which happens to be essentially right accross the street from my hotel. There I went through exhibitor check in and went into the exhibition hall to start the process of setting up the UUPA exhibit booth. This is, I think the fourth year that UUPA has had a booth at the GA exhibition hall, a move which I think has been productive in forwarding our mission to spread awareness and acceptance of polyamory as an lifestyle choice amongst Unitarian Universalists. Our booth setup has been pretty bare bones--a standard 10x10 foot exhibit hall booth with a table, a couple of chairs, some bowls of poly pride buttons, and a bowl of Hershey's kisses and hugs to help entice conventioners to our table. Also, I hung on the back partition a UU pride banner sewn by my lover and avid seamstress, Angi. At about 10 AM, Jasmine and Rodney arrived with their contribution to the booth--boxes of our UUPA informational brochures and membershiip forms, most of which can be found on the UUPA website at www.UUPA.org . The booth next door to ours, as always, belongs to Interweave, the UU GLBT organization. By the way, have you noticed how many different flavors of kisses Hershey is making these days? Milk chocolate, dark chocolate, cherry cordial, almond, caramel, chocolate meltavways, and white chocolate. It's as though they're symbolically supporting our position that love legitimately comes in many different flavors. Having arranged all our wares attractively on our table, we settled in to await the official opening of the Exhibit Hall at 12:30. Once the conventioners started flowing through the hall, things got pretty busy for us. I'd say several dozen people paused at our table in the course of the afternoon. Some were old friends an acquaintances, and some were people who warmly acknowledged seeing our booth and previous GAs and expressed happiness at seeing us there again. However, I was struck today by how many people still had no idea what polyamory is or that it's going on around them in UU congregations all the time. So, we had a chance to do a good deal of basic education today; a lot of people walked away knowing something significant that they hadn't known before. All of them seemed grateful, and no one expressed any significant negative reaction to what we had to say. There was even one minister who came by professing to know nothing of polyamory. One of our visitors was a ministerial student from Starr King School for the Ministry. When she took one of our chocolates I teased her that eating our special chocolate had the effect of turning people poly. She said, "I'm already leaning in that direction." Around 4PM my sister Valerie, who is also on the UUPA Board, arrived after her flight in from Boston. If you've never been to General Assemby, you may not know that the first evening there's an opening ceremony which starts with the "parade of banners." Each UU congregation and related organization has a distictive banner, which is carried in a procession which flows through the main meeting hall, whille thousands of GA attendees applaud and cheer. This year, due to developments which will get announced at our membership meeting on Saturday, was the first time in four years that UUPA got to have our banner in the parade. I got the honor of carrying it. The rest of the opening ceremonies were part business meeting, part celebration, and part worship service. It ended with the hymn "Blue Boat Home," with several thousand voices led by the composer, Peter Mayer. The final chorus goes: I was born upon the fathoms Never harbor or port have I known The wide universe is the ocean I travel And the Earth is my blue boat home. So ends the first day of GA 2010. Time to go to bed. Blessings, 'Storm From alanmacrobert@gmail.com Thu Jun 24 12:15:57 2010 Received: from mail-qy0-f175.google.com (mail-qy0-f175.google.com [209.85.216.175]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o5OGFvSd031123 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 12:15:57 -0400 Received: by qyk4 with SMTP id 4so62466qyk.20 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 09:15:55 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.79.76 with SMTP id o12mr6497558qak.92.1277396155530; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 09:15:55 -0700 (PDT) Sender: alanmacrobert@gmail.com Received: by 10.229.140.203 with HTTP; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 09:15:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Sender-Auth: iOTVJP4O9lUKO4Hz1Pa2Hkw5bUw Message-ID: From: alan7388 To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] 2010 UUA General Assembly, Day 1 (Moonstorm Erosong) X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 16:15:58 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 12:15:55 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 16:15:58 -0000 Thank you so much for this report!! I do wish I was there. Give hugs from me to Jas, Valerie, and everyone. I plan to be on the conference call for the meeting. Alan M. From rgouirand@gmail.com Thu Jun 24 16:13:07 2010 Received: from mail-gy0-f175.google.com (mail-gy0-f175.google.com [209.85.160.175]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o5OKD7NY011315 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 16:13:07 -0400 Received: by gyg10 with SMTP id 10so4932854gyg.20 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 13:13:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.190.14 with SMTP id dg14mr5752728qcb.49.1277410385296; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 13:13:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.110.15 with HTTP; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 13:13:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Rae Gouirand To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: [UUPoly-L] Friendly congregations in northern CA? X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 20:13:07 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 13:13:05 -0700 X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 20:13:07 -0000 Dear listers, I'm wondering whether anyone could personally recommend a poly-positive congregation in northern California. I'm in Davis (near Sacramento) but am in the Bay Area (Oakland) often on the weekends. Thanks for any word! Cheers - Rae From wabaldwin@aol.com Thu Jun 24 16:48:02 2010 Received: from imr-da03.mx.aol.com (imr-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.145]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o5OKlT7P013657 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 16:48:02 -0400 Received: from mtaout-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.69]) by imr-da03.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o5OKkc0N020413 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 16:46:56 -0400 Received: from core-mab002a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-mab002.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.29.5]) by mtaout-mb05.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTP id E4FA6E0000B8 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 16:46:55 -0400 (EDT) References: 29199541 To: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-AOL-IP: 153.18.227.47 In-Reply-To: 29199541 X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: wabaldwin@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 32131-STANDARD Received: from 153.18.227.47 by webmail-d058.sysops.aol.com (205.188.91.207) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Thu, 24 Jun 2010 16:46:55 -0400 Message-Id: <8CCE1F58437C814-16AC-1575@webmail-d058.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [172.29.40.215] x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:487620448:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d29454c23c43f41cc Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by msb.ernest-doss.org id o5OKlT7P013657 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Friendly congregations in northern CA? X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 20:48:02 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 16:46:55 -0400 (EDT) X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 20:48:02 -0000 Hi Rae, The San Jose church has done poly-supportive Sunday services, and has several openly poly members. I'm a member. Bill -----Original Message----- From: Rae Gouirand To: uupoly-l Sent: Thu, Jun 24, 2010 1:13 pm Subject: [UUPoly-L] Friendly congregations in northern CA? Dear listers, I'm wondering whether anyone could personally recommend a poly-positive congregation in northern California. I'm in Davis (near Sacramento) but am in the Bay Area (Oakland) often on the weekends. Thanks for any word! Cheers - Rae _______________________________________________ The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. 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UUPoly-L mailing list UUPoly-L@uupa.org http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l From mnstrm@erosong.net Thu Jun 24 22:51:08 2010 Received: from mail-pv0-f175.google.com (mail-pv0-f175.google.com [74.125.83.175]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o5P2p89Z030705 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 22:51:08 -0400 Received: by pvg3 with SMTP id 3so1264709pvg.20 for ; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 19:51:06 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.151.5 with SMTP id y5mr10391216wfd.190.1277434265898; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 19:51:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.251.19 with HTTP; Thu, 24 Jun 2010 19:51:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Moonstorm Erosong To: Uupoly-L , Erosong Tribe Email List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: [UUPoly-L] 2010 UUA GA--day 2 X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 02:51:08 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 19:51:05 -0700 X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 02:51:08 -0000 So, what did I do today? I got up, cleaned up, and went down to have breakfast with Valerie, Jasmine, and one of the few openly poly UU ministers I know of. After breakfast I went to a workshop on developing healthy multigenerational congregations. One of the most significant results of that was that I got to introduce myself to the UUA's chief of youth and young adult ministries, who expressed a cordial willingness to open discussions about how UUPA might be able to support poly or poly curious young people. After that, I went down to the Exhibit Hall and got the UUPA booth ready for the day. I hung our banner up on the rear partition of our booth. In the early afternoon I went to another youth oriented workshop, this one on the "well, DUH," reaction of UU youth to the idea of marriage equality. There was a speaker panel which included two ministers, two UU high school students and one sixth grader, plus one of the sixth grader's lesbian mothers. The young people were remarkably intelligent and well-spoken. During the Q&A session, I thanked them for their acceptance of peers who had two mothers or two dads instead of a mom and a dad. I then asked them how they'd feel about a peer who had more than two parents at home. To her credit, the sixth grader said she knew of a family accross her street that had a dad and two moms, and she was cool with that. Back at the Exhibit Hall, the visitors to our booth ebbed and flowed through the afternoon. A few of them were ministers looking for information about polyamory. I had one very enjoyable conversation with three women, one from Kenya, and one from Guatemala who brought along her own translater. Both ladies seemed quite fascinated about the concept of polyamory. The Kenyan lady quickly understood the differences between our polyamory and the polygamy which is allowed to some men in Kenya. The Guatemalan lady said she'd heard ideas like ours expressed by some feminists in Guatemala. More polyamorous UUs showed up today, some of whom I'd never met or heard of. Some of them had not heard of UUPoly-L or UUPA. At 7 PM the exhibit hall closed, and Valerie and I went back to the hotel for dinner. And now, here I am, writing my daily "report from the front" and sending it off to you. I'll close with the lyrics of my candidate for the official UU hymn of UUPA--number 145 in the standard hymnal. "As tranquil streams that meet and merge and flow as one to seek the sea, Our kindren hearts and minds unite to build a church that shall be free. Free from the bonds that bind the mind to narrow thought and lifeless creed, Free from a social code that fails to meet the cause of human need. A freedom that reveres the past but trusts the dawning future more, And bids the soul, in search of truth, adventure boldly and explore. Prophetic church the future waits your liberating ministry, Go forward in the power of love, proclaim the truth that makes us free." Blessings from Minneapolis, 'Storm From mnstrm@erosong.net Fri Jun 25 10:42:04 2010 Received: from mail-pv0-f175.google.com (mail-pv0-f175.google.com [74.125.83.175]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o5PEg3ga002790 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 10:42:03 -0400 Received: by pvg3 with SMTP id 3so1500734pvg.20 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 07:42:02 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.201.17 with SMTP id y17mr937574wff.283.1277476921890; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 07:42:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.251.19 with HTTP; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 07:42:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Moonstorm Erosong To: Uupoly-L Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: [UUPoly-L] UUPA wants YOU! X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 14:42:04 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 09:42:01 -0500 X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 14:42:04 -0000 I have some quiet time this morning after breakfast, and this seems like a good time to share some ponderings with you. I was just having breakfast with Jasmine Walston, our dedicated ex-president and current secretary, and found that she's thinking about some of these things, too. UUPA has now been in existense for 10 years. In that time I think we've made remarkable progress in spreading awareness and acceptance of polyamory around the world of the UUA. At this years UUPA membership meeting we'll have a special announcement which marks something of a milestone in our working relationship with the UUA, and I hope you'll all be watching for that. But you know, those of us who were involved in the founding of UUPA ten years ago and have been moving it forward through these years have one thing in common. We're getting old-er. We're not going to be able to keep this up forever. There is so much work yet to be done. We've laid good foundations in the past ten years, but we have a long way to go. If that work is going to get done over the next ten years we're going to need some fresh blood in the leadership circles of UUPA. We'll be having a UUPA board election at the membership meeting tomorrow afternoon. We have one open seat on the board which no one has so far consented to run for. We'd be particularly interested in some people at the younger end of the adult range, and in people who are ministers, ministers in training, or contemplating ministry. If you're an enthusiastic UU and an enthusiastic poly, and you feel you have potential as a leader and an activist, now would be a good time to step forward. Send me an email or call me at 206 979 8534. Blessings, 'Storm BTW, Gini Coulter, the dynamic and well-respected Moderator of the UUA, who actually presides over the business meetings at GA, dropped by our booth briefly yesterday. She walked straight over to me, shook my hand, and said, "Good to see you here." From union-consult@charter.net Fri Jun 25 12:19:43 2010 Received: from mta11.charter.net (mta11.charter.net [216.33.127.80]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o5PGJh4i008253 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 12:19:43 -0400 Received: from imp10 ([10.20.200.15]) by mta11.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.09.02.04 201-2219-117-106-20090629) with ESMTP id <20100625161933.BKDO14520.mta11.charter.net@imp10> for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 12:19:33 -0400 Received: from kelly ([68.114.55.67]) by imp10 with smtp.charter.net id aGKX1e00G1T0s0405GKY37; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 12:19:32 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=q3fm8FrvYvwA:10 a=ADBQPqJMlbwA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=mn6jgvGxxxf1RAxEU_UA:9 a=IjB48eOkrnH6n9ofYuwA:7 a=pRlsVyV7uNuov937SUzTW7AoOrYA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 Message-ID: <9F2ECBE39E4E4138A6C4A14301B99E53@kelly> From: "Union Consult" To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5931 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] UUPoly-L Digest, Vol 69, Issue 10 X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 16:19:44 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 12:18:13 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 16:19:44 -0000 Storm- Thank you for your well written and informative report, and I like your new lyrics to "As Tranquil Streams". As all of you may or may not know, hymnody often reflects the history of a religious movement as lyrics change (but respecting copyright of course). By the way, the moderator's name is not "Gini Coulter" but "Courter". Also please note that I have cut off trailing messages. From mnstrm@erosong.net Fri Jun 25 23:37:21 2010 Received: from mail-pw0-f47.google.com (mail-pw0-f47.google.com [209.85.160.47]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o5Q3bL5E010170 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 23:37:21 -0400 Received: by pwi10 with SMTP id 10so420861pwi.20 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 20:37:18 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.196.21 with SMTP id t21mr2152024wff.237.1277523437886; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 20:37:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.251.19 with HTTP; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 20:37:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Moonstorm Erosong To: Uupoly-L , Erosong Tribe Email List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: [UUPoly-L] 2010 UUA GA--Day 3 X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 03:37:21 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 22:37:17 -0500 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 03:37:21 -0000 So this may have been the most eventful day of GA so far. I don't think I can possibly remember all of it to type it out for this report. This morning was fairly quiet until 11:30 when the exhibit hall opened. In the course of the afternoon lot's of different people stopped at our booth. There were a handful of ministers who stopped by. A couple of them professed to know nothing about polyamory and seemed gratified by learning something about it. Others clearly knew something about it but were looking for more authoritative information to use in conversations with their fellow ministers on the subject. There was one UUA staff member who dropped by and described how much he appreciated how we of UUPA have carried on our workings with the UUA over these past ten years. He said that our quiet visibility and gentle persistance has made it possible for the UUA to expand it's awareness and sympathy for poly people without suffering too much blowback from our critics. He said if we'd taken a more aggressive tack it might have actually slowed progress on a number of fronts, including in the area of the UUA's work for GLBT concerns. We met a number of UUpolys who either had not been aware of UUPA or were just getting around to thinking about joining. Some of them expressed an enthusiastic interest in becoming actively involved, including a few 20-somethings. At one point I left our booth to visit the booths of two schools of divinity which were represented at GA--Harvard Divinity School and Starr King School for the Ministry in Berkeley CA. I asked both schools what they were currently teaching ministerial students about polyamory. The Harvard professor I talked to said he didn't teach in that area, but if I would send him an email he would check in with some of his colleagues and get back to me. At the Starr King booth I taked to a woman who was a recent SK graduate doing a ministerial internship at a California church. She said that polyamory was covered in the students training on delivering the Our Whole Lifes sex ed curriculum. She also said that she knew of at least three current students at Starr King who are actively polyamorous. Late in the afternoon I attended a workshop presentation by Debra Haffner, the Executive Director of the Religious Institute and a professional sex-educator turned UU minister. She has just spend a year doing an extensive assessment of the sexual health and responsibility of the UUA on a number of levels--denomnation, congregation, and religious professional. This assessment included an email survey of over 1200 UU ministers along with extensive reviews of policies, source documents and live interviews of key UUA staff. I won't try to explain all the findings of this assessment; Debra is planning to publish them in an upcoming UU World Magazine. I will say that I was disappointed to hear that the entire survey contained only one question about polyamory, That question was whether a UU minister had ever performed a committment ceremony for a poly group. Apparently only 3 ministers, or about one percent, said that thay had. By the way, 56 percent of UU ministers are women and 24 percent are GLBT, in case you're wondering. No information was gathered on how many are polyamorous. Yes, my friends, we've come a respectable way, but we still have a long way to go. Blessings, 'Storm From earthfather@cfnc.us Fri Jun 25 23:49:51 2010 Received: from vms173013pub.verizon.net (vms173013pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.13]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o5Q3nHpl011235 for ; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 23:49:51 -0400 Received: from MVRLENOVO2008 ([unknown] [173.79.114.179]) by vms173013.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0L4L0094QRX0LE10@vms173013.mailsrvcs.net> for uupoly-l@uupa.org; Fri, 25 Jun 2010 22:48:41 -0500 (CDT) From: "Michael Rios" To: References: Message-id: <673F6136693B4FACA4DC6B712D2FD1C7@MVRLENOVO2008> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5931 Thread-index: AcsU4QEr8aSxbQ2pTEaVGpAvs/Y2uQAAIi7w In-reply-to: Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] 2010 UUA GA--Day 3 X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 03:49:51 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 23:48:39 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 03:49:51 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: Moonstorm Erosong > At one point I left our booth to visit the booths of two schools of > divinity > which were represented at GA--Harvard Divinity School and Starr King > School > for the Ministry in Berkeley CA. I asked both schools what they were > currently teaching ministerial students about polyamory. The Harvard > professor I talked to said he didn't teach in that area, but if I would > send > him an email he would check in with some of his colleagues and get back to > me. At the Starr King booth I taked to a woman who was a recent SK > graduate > doing a ministerial internship at a California church. She said that > polyamory was covered in the students training on delivering the Our Whole > Lifes sex ed curriculum. She also said that she knew of at least three > current students at Starr King who are actively polyamorous. There was at least one Dean of the faculty and Provost of Starr King who was actively polyamorous as well... Michael Rios From dpagano@igc.org Sat Jun 26 02:05:25 2010 Received: from elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.61]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o5Q65Ppv018464 for ; Sat, 26 Jun 2010 02:05:25 -0400 Received: from [209.86.224.68] (helo=wamui-hunyo.atl.sa.earthlink.net) by elasmtp-galgo.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1OSOVq-00029n-HX for uupoly-l@uupa.org; Sat, 26 Jun 2010 02:05:10 -0400 Received: from 99.62.77.245 by webmail.c.earthlink.net with HTTP; Sat, 26 Jun 2010 02:04:44 -0400 Message-ID: <19841580.1277532285037.JavaMail.root@wamui-hunyo.atl.sa.earthlink.net> From: Darlene Pagano To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: 39a82346d7ceb269f84080ff3e30f22c10da844d1acb45b6146113a3cf2e5303350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.68 Subject: [UUPoly-L] saw a picture in GA Banner parade X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: Darlene Pagano , uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 06:05:26 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 02:04:45 -0400 (EDT) X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 06:05:26 -0000 Hi all, Was looking at some GA coverage online and noticed the slideshow for the banner parade. UUPA was one of the slides. Darlene http://www.flickr.com/photos/uuworld/sets/72157624347959358/ visit the website of ColorLines magazine The national newsmagazine on race and politics www.colorlines.com From aine.maire@gmail.com Sat Jun 26 03:14:33 2010 Received: from mail-qw0-f43.google.com (mail-qw0-f43.google.com [209.85.216.43]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o5Q7EWC4022370 for ; Sat, 26 Jun 2010 03:14:32 -0400 Received: by qwd6 with SMTP id 6so245490qwd.2 for ; Sat, 26 Jun 2010 00:14:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.249.138 with SMTP id mk10mr1116323qcb.229.1277536466294; Sat, 26 Jun 2010 00:14:26 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.214.82 with HTTP; Sat, 26 Jun 2010 00:13:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <673F6136693B4FACA4DC6B712D2FD1C7@MVRLENOVO2008> References: <673F6136693B4FACA4DC6B712D2FD1C7@MVRLENOVO2008> From: aine.maire@gmail.com Message-ID: To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] 2010 UUA GA--Day 3 X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 07:14:39 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 03:13:56 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 07:14:39 -0000 *This is such good information to have. Although I haven't been involved in a UU congregation locally, my experience is that several UU ministers locally are GLBT. I don't know if that improves the odds that they are poly-friendly, but like to think that members of one sexual minority would be tolerant, at the least, of other forms of sexual expression.* ** *History shows there is some trickle down when it comes to civil rights and justice. The African-American Civil Rights movement helped propel the women's movement, which helped propel gay rights, and on down the line to where we are today.* ** *Most people I know are open to people being GLBT, but I'm old enough to know that that wasn't always the case. I imagine in the future polyamory and other open relationship models will be accepted as casually. Of course, the difficulty I have is in trying to explain my lifestyle to my friends and coworkers. The why and how of the decisions I have made.* ** *One minister pointed out that UUPA has been working quietly, and sometimes that is the best way. It may take longer, but that acceptance will be deeper than it otherwise would have been had UUPA been hitting people on the head and shouting, "Hey, I"m poly. Live with it!"* ** *My thanks to everyone who has worked hard and quietly to establish polyamory as an acceptable lifestyle.* ** *Anne:)* I think dogs are the most amazing creatures. They give unconditional love. For me, they are the role model for being alive. ~Gilda Radner You think dogs will not be in heaven? I tell you, they will be there long before any of us. ~Robert Louis Stevenson From earthfather@cfnc.us Sat Jun 26 08:21:48 2010 Received: from vms173003pub.verizon.net (vms173003pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.3]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o5QCLEKi006544 for ; Sat, 26 Jun 2010 08:21:48 -0400 Received: from MVRLENOVO2008 ([unknown] [173.79.114.179]) by vms173003.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0L4M00BWBFME5O80@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> for uupoly-l@uupa.org; Sat, 26 Jun 2010 07:20:39 -0500 (CDT) From: "Michael Rios" To: References: <673F6136693B4FACA4DC6B712D2FD1C7@MVRLENOVO2008> Message-id: <8154EF1F310D44199A34875BC137960B@MVRLENOVO2008> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5931 Thread-index: AcsU/1s66B+HNt9lTyKv50pD9V/bkgAKUwKg In-reply-to: Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] 2010 UUA GA--Day 3 X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 12:21:48 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 08:20:42 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 12:21:48 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: aine.maire@gmail.com > > *This is such good information to have. Although I haven't been involved > in > a UU congregation locally, my experience is that several UU ministers > locally are GLBT. I don't know if that improves the odds that they are > poly-friendly, but like to think that members of one sexual minority would > be tolerant, at the least, of other forms of sexual expression.* Unfortunately, this is not always, perhaps not even often, the case. Minorities that feel they have a chance of acceptance often distance themselves from other minorities that are less mainstream than they are. Sometimes called the lifeboat phenomenon-- the ones *in* the boat are hostile to the ones still in the water... > ** > *History shows there is some trickle down when it comes to civil rights > and > justice. The African-American Civil Rights movement helped propel the > women's movement, which helped propel gay rights, and on down the line to > where we are today.* Trickle down isn't quite the way I think of it. The women's movement was jump-started by the Civil Rights movement because the women realized that *within the movement* they were subjected to the same kind of discrimination that the movement was opposing in the larger society for African Americans. > ** > *One minister pointed out that UUPA has been working quietly, and > sometimes > that is the best way. It may take longer, but that acceptance will be > deeper > than it otherwise would have been had UUPA been hitting people on the head > and shouting, "Hey, I"m poly. Live with it!"* Especially when you are a member of a group that has proven themselves a friend of human rights in the past. Poly acceptance in UU may be a "slow take", but organized or institutional resistance is unlikely. I can still remember our local minister, after I had been barred from teaching Sunday School because I was poly, said he didn't see this as a social justice issue, and there was no parallel between discriminating against gays and discriminating against polyfolk! Fortunately, over time, I see this changing. > ** > *My thanks to everyone who has worked hard and quietly to establish > polyamory as an acceptable lifestyle.* Hear, hear!!! :-) Michael Rios From desmondravenstone@yahoo.com Sat Jun 26 08:37:49 2010 Received: from web50503.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web50503.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.38.79]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id o5QCbnAH007800 for ; Sat, 26 Jun 2010 08:37:49 -0400 Received: (qmail 44686 invoked by uid 60001); 26 Jun 2010 12:37:49 -0000 Message-ID: <962598.42884.qm@web50503.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: c_Z4YTAVM1kqNezO1JL9283LRAEAbOXt2v1rirmFdR1cBWt r4LhMA9W5tvy1r_buQYqx9GLaJP6x7lnnqsnuYF_Eq9lTOdNfMd3lSv8fDvx japq.CmKA2mdgIEIjPII2knoAkWGz7BkW_T84Rv.Rca898.h8qf3bRn71Rxy iMWrk0xVWAv4.tNwu7gfb8hidldt8aJ3IW7klwdFc0mqJ_vp9MOCVr_xl2tM B70trFYonNiNTPpVtikGCPV7PuDi.cYy0dj30XrgLVMvh9rpkIfE4G7bazjp jN1XdMiw8L_BX6ceS Received: from [174.147.175.14] by web50503.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 26 Jun 2010 05:37:48 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.1.4 YahooMailWebService/0.8.104.274457 From: Desmond Ravenstone To: uupoly-l@uupa.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by msb.ernest-doss.org id o5QCbnAH007800 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] 2010 UUA GA--Day 3 X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 12:37:52 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 05:37:48 -0700 (PDT) X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 12:37:52 -0000 --- On Fri, 6/25/10, Moonstorm Erosong wrote: >> Late in the afternoon I attended a workshop presentation by Debra Haffner, the Executive Director of the Religious Institute and a professional sex-educator turned UU minister. IMHO she is still a professional sex educator; she has simply combined it into her job description as community minister. >> She has just spend a year doing an extensive assessment of the sexual health and responsibility of the UUA on a number of levels--denomnation, congregation, and religious professional. This assessment included an email survey of over 1200 UU ministers <<>>  I will say that I was disappointed to hear that the entire survey contained only one question about polyamory,  That question was whether a UU minister had ever performed a committment ceremony for a poly group.  Apparently only 3 ministers, or about one percent, said that thay had.  I'm disappointed, too, esp since this single question gives no real context. How many ministers received inquiries or requests for such ceremonies? How many refused to do them? How many ceremonies were performed without the auspices of the congregation (indicating that the minister was more poly-aware/poly-accepting than their congregation)? We are in fact aware of a few ministers who have expressed very negative views towards polyamory and poly folks. Aside from the effect these ministers certainly have on folks in their congregation, we have to consider their influence within the UU Ministerial Association, not to mention at the district and denominational level. With the growing number of poly UU ministers and seminary students, there is one more issue worth considering. Currently, the Code of Professional Practice for UU ministers includes the following paragraph: "I will not engage in sexual activities with a member of the congregation who is not my spouse or partner, if I am married or in a committed relationship. If I am single, before becoming sexually involved with a person in the congregation, I will take special care to examine my commitment, motives, intentionality, and the nature of such activity and its consequence for myself, the other person, and the congregation." While I understand the need for preventing exploitative relationships, in my mind this creates a double standard. If a single minister feels a healthy attraction to a member of the congregation, and the feeling is mutual, they can pursue a romantic relationship, so long as it is above board. But a poly minister with a primary relationship is barred from doing the same, even with the consent of their primary partner. As the number of poly UU ministers grows, we might want to consider suggesting a revision: "Before becoming romantically and/or sexually involved with a person in the congregation, I will take special care to examine my commitment, motives, intentionality, and the nature of such activity and its consequence for myself, my family, the other person, and the congregation." Note also that, by adding the phrase "my family" this revision additionally recognizes that many single ministers are in fact single parents, not to mention other familial commitments such as care of an elderly parent or relative. One of the reasons I think our "slow and steady" approach has worked so well is that we have taken the time to anticipate specific issues and questions, and come up with ways to respond to them. Desmond Ravenstone From haslamk@gmail.com Sat Jun 26 10:13:06 2010 Received: from mail-yx0-f175.google.com (mail-yx0-f175.google.com [209.85.213.175]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o5QED6F6013045 for ; Sat, 26 Jun 2010 10:13:06 -0400 Received: by yxt3 with SMTP id 3so5964yxt.20 for ; Sat, 26 Jun 2010 07:13:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.101.155.14 with SMTP id h14mr2996966ano.206.1277561585940; Sat, 26 Jun 2010 07:13:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.26.213.123] ([166.137.9.101]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id e4sm23094797anb.5.2010.06.26.07.13.02 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 26 Jun 2010 07:13:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: From: Ken Haslam To: "uupoly-l@uupa.org" In-Reply-To: <673F6136693B4FACA4DC6B712D2FD1C7@MVRLENOVO2008> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (7E18) Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 7E18) References: <673F6136693B4FACA4DC6B712D2FD1C7@MVRLENOVO2008> Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] 2010 UUA GA--Day 3 X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 14:13:07 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 10:12:56 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 14:13:07 -0000 And one of the founding members of uupa, now a uu minister, is a graduate of star king. Ken Haslam Follow the man who seeks the truth. Run from the man who thinks he has found it. On Jun 25, 2010, at 11:48 PM, "Michael Rios" wrote: > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Moonstorm Erosong >> At one point I left our booth to visit the booths of two schools of >> divinity >> which were represented at GA--Harvard Divinity School and Starr King >> School >> for the Ministry in Berkeley CA. I asked both schools what they were >> currently teaching ministerial students about polyamory. The Harvard >> professor I talked to said he didn't teach in that area, but if I >> would >> send >> him an email he would check in with some of his colleagues and get >> back to >> me. At the Starr King booth I taked to a woman who was a recent SK >> graduate >> doing a ministerial internship at a California church. She said that >> polyamory was covered in the students training on delivering the >> Our Whole >> Lifes sex ed curriculum. She also said that she knew of at least >> three >> current students at Starr King who are actively polyamorous. > > There was at least one Dean of the faculty and Provost of Starr King > who was > actively polyamorous as well... > > > Michael Rios > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about > yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l From mnstrm@erosong.net Sat Jun 26 10:37:00 2010 Received: from mail-pv0-f175.google.com (mail-pv0-f175.google.com [74.125.83.175]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o5QEaxlj014674 for ; Sat, 26 Jun 2010 10:36:59 -0400 Received: by pvg13 with SMTP id 13so291970pvg.20 for ; Sat, 26 Jun 2010 07:36:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.143.153.42 with SMTP id f42mr2832833wfo.299.1277563016610; Sat, 26 Jun 2010 07:36:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.251.19 with HTTP; Sat, 26 Jun 2010 07:36:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Moonstorm Erosong To: Uupoly-L , UUPoly-Org Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=001636e0b964c882960489efd166 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: [UUPoly-L] UUPA Local Chapter Reports X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 14:37:00 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 09:36:56 -0500 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 14:37:00 -0000 --001636e0b964c882960489efd166 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Attached is a report to be presented at the UUPA membership meeting today at 1:00 p.m. in Minneapolis. --001636e0b964c882960489efd166-- From ArthurFreeheart@aol.com Sat Jun 26 10:38:44 2010 Received: from imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (imr-ma06.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.142]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o5QEcBEQ015198 for ; Sat, 26 Jun 2010 10:38:44 -0400 Received: from imo-da01.mx.aol.com (imo-da01.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.199]) by imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o5QEcA0Q005997 for ; Sat, 26 Jun 2010 10:38:10 -0400 Received: from ArthurFreeheart@aol.com by imo-da01.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.9.) id g.df7.3c156c9 (37045) for ; Sat, 26 Jun 2010 10:37:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from magic-d18.mail.aol.com (magic-d18.mail.aol.com [172.19.155.134]) by cia-db03.mx.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILCIADB033-90b54c2610ba3e4; Sat, 26 Jun 2010 10:37:46 -0400 From: ArthurFreeheart@aol.com Message-ID: <51356.66b2806e.39576aba@aol.com> To: uupoly-l@uupa.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5379 X-AOL-ORIG-IP: 74.71.215.59 X-AOL-IP: 172.19.155.134 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-AOL-SENDER: ArthurFreeheart@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] UUPA Local Chapter Reports X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 14:38:44 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 10:37:46 EDT X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 14:38:44 -0000 no file attached From aine.maire@gmail.com Sat Jun 26 17:53:06 2010 Received: from mail-vw0-f47.google.com (mail-vw0-f47.google.com [209.85.212.47]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o5QLr6dE004045 for ; Sat, 26 Jun 2010 17:53:06 -0400 Received: by vws12 with SMTP id 12so726980vws.20 for ; Sat, 26 Jun 2010 14:53:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.250.142 with SMTP id mo14mr1526494qcb.41.1277589184410; Sat, 26 Jun 2010 14:53:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.214.82 with HTTP; Sat, 26 Jun 2010 14:52:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <673F6136693B4FACA4DC6B712D2FD1C7@MVRLENOVO2008> From: aine.maire@gmail.com Message-ID: To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] 2010 UUA GA--Day 3 X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 21:53:07 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 17:52:34 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 21:53:07 -0000 *Thanks to all who have responded and given me food for thought. I understand about the lifeboat analogy. And how the women in the Civil Rights and anti-war movements were told to make the sandwiches and the men would do the "important" work. it played a part in creating the women's rights movement. Even in my lifetime, I remember having male bosses who referred to the staff as "the girls." I remember the highly uncomplimentary statements made about Jesse Jackson running for president and Geraldine Ferraro for VP in 1984. Today we have an African-American president and the other party's choice had a woman VP on the ticket. So the nation is changing, slowly but surely.* ** *Yahoo's home page today has an article about openly gay celebrities. I didn't see that 20 years ago. Maybe in 20 years, we'll see more articles about celebrities enjoying open relationships and polyamory.* ** *Desmond, thank you for the wording on the code of conduct. Yes, you bring up a good point regarding single vs married/committed ministers.* ** *Keep on keeping on.* *Anne:)* I think dogs are the most amazing creatures. They give unconditional love. For me, they are the role model for being alive. ~Gilda Radner You think dogs will not be in heaven? I tell you, they will be there long before any of us. ~Robert Louis Stevenson On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 10:12, Ken Haslam wrote: > And one of the founding members of uupa, now a uu minister, is a > graduate of star king. > > Ken Haslam > > Follow the man who seeks the truth. Run from the man who thinks he > has found it. > > > On Jun 25, 2010, at 11:48 PM, "Michael Rios" > wrote: > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Moonstorm Erosong > >> At one point I left our booth to visit the booths of two schools of > >> divinity > >> which were represented at GA--Harvard Divinity School and Starr King > >> School > >> for the Ministry in Berkeley CA. I asked both schools what they were > >> currently teaching ministerial students about polyamory. The Harvard > >> professor I talked to said he didn't teach in that area, but if I > >> would > >> send > >> him an email he would check in with some of his colleagues and get > >> back to > >> me. At the Starr King booth I taked to a woman who was a recent SK > >> graduate > >> doing a ministerial internship at a California church. She said that > >> polyamory was covered in the students training on delivering the > >> Our Whole > >> Lifes sex ed curriculum. She also said that she knew of at least > >> three > >> current students at Starr King who are actively polyamorous. > > > > There was at least one Dean of the faculty and Provost of Starr King > > who was > > actively polyamorous as well... > > > > > > Michael Rios > > > > _______________________________________________ > > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about > > yourself. > > UUPoly-L mailing list > > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > From alanmacrobert@gmail.com Sat Jun 26 19:59:48 2010 Received: from mail-qw0-f47.google.com (mail-qw0-f47.google.com [209.85.216.47]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o5QNxmbT010613 for ; Sat, 26 Jun 2010 19:59:48 -0400 Received: by qwi2 with SMTP id 2so1183204qwi.20 for ; Sat, 26 Jun 2010 16:59:47 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.229.225.19 with SMTP id iq19mr1544127qcb.188.1277596787402; Sat, 26 Jun 2010 16:59:47 -0700 (PDT) Sender: alanmacrobert@gmail.com Received: by 10.229.140.203 with HTTP; Sat, 26 Jun 2010 16:59:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Sender-Auth: 8ssctCg_KyuP9kZWvoE8l3qVKU0 Message-ID: From: alan7388 To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: [UUPoly-L] Meeting followup: New UU World ads? X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 23:59:48 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 19:59:47 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 23:59:48 -0000 Something I forgot to mention during today's meeting: It occured to me that the "Polyamory" ad in the UU World might attract more notice if the headline and text changed from issue to issue. We could have several versions that could rotate. Anybody else think so? I volunteer to draft some and post them here. How much of a hassle would this be to implement? And I assume there would be no extra cost? Alan M. From mnstrm@erosong.net Sat Jun 26 23:11:01 2010 Received: from mail-pw0-f43.google.com (mail-pw0-f43.google.com [209.85.160.43]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o5R3B05w020363 for ; Sat, 26 Jun 2010 23:11:01 -0400 Received: by pwi9 with SMTP id 9so7887665pwi.2 for ; Sat, 26 Jun 2010 20:10:58 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.143.27.1 with SMTP id e1mr3531656wfj.166.1277608258202; Sat, 26 Jun 2010 20:10:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.251.19 with HTTP; Sat, 26 Jun 2010 20:10:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Moonstorm Erosong To: Uupoly-L , Erosong Tribe Email List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: [UUPoly-L] 2010 UUA GA--Day 4 X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 03:11:01 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 22:10:58 -0500 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 03:11:01 -0000 So, today was the next to the last day of this GA. Like yesterday it was pretty slow in the morning, as all the delegates were in plenary sessions conducting business and the exhibit hall didn't open until 11:30. I understand some interesting things got done in the business meetings, but I'll leave it up to you to visit uua.org to get news about those things. Not being a delegate, I spent the morning doing some paperwork preparing for the UUPA annual membership meeting, which was scheduled for 1:00 this afternoon. So I went to the exhibit hall just before it opened to staff our booth for about an hour before I had to go back to the hotel to lead the UUPA membership meeting. We had 14 people at the meeting, about half of them in the room and half of them by conference call, which got us over the 10 person threshhold we needed for a quorum. Thank goodness for technology. The meeting went very smoothly, and we got all our essential business done, including the re-election of a couple of trustees (myself and Jasmine Walston) whose terms were expiring. So here's the BIG ANNOUNCEMENT I've been promising. A couple of months ago the UUPA Board received a email memorandum from the Executive Vice President of the UUA describing some recent actions of the UUA Board. Put briefly, the UUA Board has done away with the complicated process of selecting Independent Affiliate organizations from amongst all the UU organizations that might have aspired to that coveted designation. The UUA Board has now done away with the Independent Affiliate category and created one larger category called "related organizations." And guess what? UUPA is on the list of "related organizations"!! We have been officially so designated and given an assignment to liaison with the Identity-based Ministries Office of the UUA. Last week I spoke to the chief of the Identity-based Ministries Office, Taquiena Boston, and she confirmed that we have been so designated and that she stands ready to serve as our official contact with the UUA. What this means folks, is that for the first time, UUPA has an officially defined and acknowledged relationship with the UUA. This is the first official acknowledgement of any working alliance between the UUA and UUPA. We on the UUPA Board are pretty excited about this development. It makes us immediately eligible for a handful of benefits, the most visible being the right to have our banner carried in the Parade of Banners at this years GA. Anyway, after the UUPA membership meeting, I went back to the exhibit hall, and once again the GA attendees ebbed and flowed past our booth in the course of the afternoon. I took the opportunity to continue my survey of theological schools. Actually, as it turned out, the representative of the Andover Newton Theological School took the initiative of coming to our booth on her own. She said she felt it was important that she gather some information about polyamory. She didn't know of any teaching going on about polyamory at her school, and felt that that needed to change. That left Meadville-Lombard Theological School. I went over to their booth and talked to a student who said she was not aware of any coursework covering polyamory on their home campus, but indicated that most of their students take courses from other schools as well, which may include information on polyamory, such as Starr King. She agreed with me that there was a need for more education about polyamory and accepted some of our informational literature and contact information. One interesting thing this student said was that the UUA Ministerial Fellowship Committee has just within the last six months added a new requirement that fellowship candidates demonstrate a compentency in the area of human sexuality. This may be an opportunity to provide more input on polyamory into the required training of ministerial students. So, the afternoon of the 4th day came to a close. My deep thanks to all the people who attended our business meeting today either in person or on-line and made it possible for us to have a quorum and get our business done. And my heartfelt congratulations to UUPA charter member Ann Schranz for this week achieving Full Fellowship as a fully credentialled UU minister. We're all extremely proud of her. Enough for tonight. I'll report again tomorrow on the last day of GA. Blessings, 'Storm From airsafe1@comcast.net Sun Jun 27 00:08:47 2010 Received: from out02.roch.ny.frontiernet.net (out02.roch.ny.frontiernet.net [66.133.183.227]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o5R48Dpq023374 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 00:08:47 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgsGALtrJky4CHft/2dsb2JhbACId4oCjC+/LoUkBINm X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.53,489,1272844800"; d="scan'208";a="33817917" Received: from relay01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net ([66.133.182.164]) by out02.roch.ny.frontiernet.net with ESMTP; 27 Jun 2010 04:08:12 +0000 X-Previous-IP: 184.8.119.237 Received: from DaveVostro1400 (184-8-119-237.dr04.ekgv.ca.frontiernet.net [184.8.119.237]) by relay01.roch.ny.frontiernet.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 632D65FD90 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 04:08:11 +0000 (UTC) From: "David Hall" To: References: <10630672.979.1277596926151.JavaMail.root@n01> Message-ID: <560A5EDCB39747BA82EE0832390144E1@DaveVostro1400> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcsVi/ql2jdqKnH0RV+stblQP5c3UwAH6oHw In-Reply-To: <10630672.979.1277596926151.JavaMail.root@n01> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5931 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Meeting followup: New UU World ads? X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 04:08:47 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 21:08:00 -0700 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 04:08:47 -0000 It would be a hassle to change quarterly since we must commit our ad for a year at a time. It must be in a specific format (software) and of course stay the same size. I would like to see something different that would fit within the constraints of the size and still contain adequate contact info. Suggestions are welcome. The ad attracts few people (outside the prison system) but I believe it keeps readers aware that we are around. >From Jan-June this year we had 21 new contacts, 12 from prisons (mostly looking for penpals). Of the total, 8 joined, one on a waiver. Two identified UUWorld as their source, 2 found us on the Internet and 1 said Friend. Dave Hall Main contact with UUWorld -----Original Message----- From: uupoly-l-bounces+airsafe1=comcast.net@uupa.org [mailto:uupoly-l-bounces+airsafe1=comcast.net@uupa.org] On Behalf Of alan7388 Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 5:00 PM To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Subject: [UUPoly-L] Meeting followup: New UU World ads? Something I forgot to mention during today's meeting: It occured to me that the "Polyamory" ad in the UU World might attract more notice if the headline and text changed from issue to issue. We could have several versions that could rotate. Anybody else think so? I volunteer to draft some and post them here. How much of a hassle would this be to implement? And I assume there would be no extra cost? Alan M. _______________________________________________ The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. UUPoly-L mailing list UUPoly-L@uupa.org http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l From desmondravenstone@yahoo.com Sun Jun 27 08:11:25 2010 Received: from web50506.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web50506.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.38.82]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id o5RCBPki025577 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 08:11:25 -0400 Received: (qmail 3056 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Jun 2010 12:11:25 -0000 Message-ID: <226738.1547.qm@web50506.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: HkHM.zAVM1kXZsbQCDu8Tng3d3s9Lr0DUz2Wf18EjXuM8sn pgTSvKnO2qEyHlhARLCZSI6MRinSDW7FtJPCKhzr6OegzbIL8mEcHiDrL2U8 TXKnsVXlk3.4NJ1khNc.XeyEOZ2Yl1bwpsllEEBFjQ0ziVZqp9VW_IEENHTc YEJhfQRLelAlyELrcnB1dvXyZYj0aZ4HqWz1CEXt1pMTcpLI5xB67WbBvthI KYh_K7XhCbGhUm_XPKZpIuZpLpoGsDq3.DKe7kds_zEl536YeWZNLhxfAtiv 00DXjzXlttODzPGNmAe4liqw- Received: from [173.115.215.175] by web50506.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 05:11:25 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/11.1.4 YahooMailWebService/0.8.104.274457 From: Desmond Ravenstone To: uupoly-l@uupa.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by msb.ernest-doss.org id o5RCBPki025577 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] 2010 UUA GA--Day 4 X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 12:11:25 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 05:11:25 -0700 (PDT) X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 12:11:25 -0000 --- On Sat, 6/26/10, Moonstorm Erosong wrote: >> UUPA is on the list of "related organizations"!!  We have been officially so designated and given an assignment to liaison with the Identity-based Ministries Office of the UUA.  Last week I spoke to the chief of the Identity-based Ministries Office, Taquiena Boston, and she confirmed that we have been so designated and that she stands ready to serve as our official contact with the UUA. <<>> >> Actually, as it turned out, the representative of the Andover Newton Theological School took the initiative of coming to our booth on her own.  She said she felt it was important that she gather some information about polyamory.  She didn't know of any teaching going on about polyamory at her school, and felt that that needed to change. Both great news. And if the UUA office needs a face-to-face liaison in the Boston area, I'm willing to step up to the plate on this. Same for helping ANTS integrating polyamory into their curricula. Just say the word. Desmond Ravenstone "What you call sin, I call the great spirit of love, which takes a thousand forms..." http://ravenstonesreflections.blogspot.com http://www.myspace.com/desmond_ravenstone From dorothyk@charter.net Sun Jun 27 12:01:26 2010 Received: from mta41.charter.net (mta41.charter.net [216.33.127.83]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o5RG1Qs5005260 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 12:01:26 -0400 Received: from imp11 ([10.20.200.11]) by mta41.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.09.02.04 201-2219-117-106-20090629) with ESMTP id <20100627160116.YOOV2629.mta41.charter.net@imp11>; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 12:01:16 -0400 Received: from mp12 ([209.225.8.242]) by imp11 with smtp.charter.net id b41D1e0015DKPS90541EmY; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 12:01:15 -0400 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=2rcqQKcO7EEA:10 a=ood2b7iyd8MA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=TUFTHvN-AAAA:20 a=qV0mfD4mAAAA:8 a=YKd51L-IAAAA:8 a=6fof8kKZsRIy1R8vcUMA:9 a=n9YxK0AjNfMYkyXqB8dZunpsad8A:4 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=ao4RW71Vw8YA:10 a=H6tAhbxtCDUA:10 Message-ID: <20100627120115.B1HHE.8194622.root@mp12> From: To: UUPoly-L@uupa.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Sensitivity: Normal X-Originating-IP: from 8.9.69.40 by ssomail.charter.net; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 12:01:12 -0400 Cc: DorothyK@charter.net Subject: [UUPoly-L] Group I'd mentioned in the meeting yesterday X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 16:01:26 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 12:01:14 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 16:01:26 -0000 This is the group I talked about being a good place to have a UUPA presence... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ExpansiveLoving/ Tara (email below) is primary for the group. Dorothy ============= To: From: "Tara Shakti-Ma" Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 10:19:51 -0400 Subject: Re: [ExpansiveLoving] Sustainable relationships From mnstrm@erosong.net Sun Jun 27 16:45:16 2010 Received: from mail-pw0-f47.google.com (mail-pw0-f47.google.com [209.85.160.47]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o5RKjFpx020117 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 16:45:15 -0400 Received: by pwi10 with SMTP id 10so931383pwi.20 for ; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 13:45:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.208.11 with SMTP id f11mr4460097wfg.125.1277671512179; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 13:45:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.251.19 with HTTP; Sun, 27 Jun 2010 13:45:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Moonstorm Erosong To: Uupoly-L , Erosong Tribe Email List Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: [UUPoly-L] 2010 UUA GA--Day 5 X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 20:45:16 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 15:45:12 -0500 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 20:45:16 -0000 So, it's just about over. The exhibit hall closed for good at 2:00 p.m. and it only took half an hour to pack up our booth and get out of there. There's still one more plenary session going on this afternoon for the delegates, and a closing ceremony tonight, but for all practical purposes my GA is over. Today there was a Sunday morning worship service which I didn't attend because it lasted until after the exhibit hall opened at 10:00 a.m. Then the hall was open for just four hours more of chatting with folk and spreading awareness about polyamory amongst UUs. One interesting development was that a Meadville Lombard theological student dropped by our booth and asked if she could interview us for her daughter who is a sex blogger under the name of Clarisse Thorn ( http://lovebites.blogs.chicago.timeout.com/2010/06/26/psychology-today-on-terribly-addictive-dangerous-murderous-sm/ ) She mostly wanted to ask questions about what reactions we've gotten from the denomination regarding our work with UUPA. The short version of our answer, "Extremely mixed." Don't know if we'll be getting coverage in her daughter's blog or not. One good thing we've gotten out of this GA is that we've met a UU poly from Madison WI who says she's willing to be the contact person for our Madison Local Chapter, which has been out of communication for the past few years. I would like to take this opportunity to extend our heartfelt thanks to Doug Walters, who is leaving the UUPA Board of Trustees at this point. Doug is a long time UU who has been prominent in congregational and regional leadership in the Pacific Northwest for many years. He has been a member of the UUPA Board for several years now, and a founding member of our Local Chapter in Portland OR. It's been a pleasure and privilege to serve with him and we wish him all the best. Please, please, PLEASE, people--JOIN UUPA. Over the coming years it's likely that more and more of our work is going to have to be at the local and regional level, and that means needing active and involved members everywhere we can get them. We're also going to need more newer and younger folks on the UUPA Board to carry our mission forward. Oh, and spread the word about UUPA. It's become clear this week that there are poly UUs in our country who don't even know we're out here doing this work. Get three poly UUs in your area together and start a Local Chapter of UUPA. The instructions for starting a Local Chapter are at www.UUPA.org. It costs nothing and you can pretty much design your own way of functioning as a chapter. And finally, if you live in the area of Charlotte NC, next year's GA is being held in your city. I'd like to get started early on preparations for our participation. Please send an email to the list or to me directly and let us know you're out there. Having some advanced scouts in that area would be a great help. For now, it's time for me to sign off. Thanks for listening, and if all this has inspired any thoughts, questions, or suggestions, please put them on the list. Blessings, 'Storm From onehuming@gmail.com Mon Jun 28 08:56:19 2010 Received: from mail-iw0-f175.google.com (mail-iw0-f175.google.com [209.85.214.175]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o5SCuJwZ004574 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 08:56:19 -0400 Received: by iwn9 with SMTP id 9so1075421iwn.20 for ; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 05:56:18 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.66.79 with SMTP id m15mr5295818ibi.139.1277729778665; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 05:56:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.36.2 with HTTP; Mon, 28 Jun 2010 05:56:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: From: Blythe Pelham To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] UUPoly-L Digest, Vol 69, Issue 12 X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 12:56:19 -0000 X-Original-Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 08:56:18 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 12:56:19 -0000 <> Wahoooooooooo! Fantastic :-) Great news! Thanks for being such a strong, steady presence out there for us... Blythe From dakinitara@tantrikapath.com Wed Jun 30 19:20:18 2010 Received: from vms173005pub.verizon.net (vms173005pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.5]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o5UNJjjX023620 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 19:20:18 -0400 Received: from HamsaPC ([unknown] [71.173.251.45]) by vms173005.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0L4U00AVGORX8IB2@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> for uupoly-l@uupa.org; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 18:19:10 -0500 (CDT) Message-id: <13621BDBB733400CB33521D5CF0C23C0@HamsaPC> From: "Tara Shakti-Ma" To: References: <20100627120115.B1HHE.8194622.root@mp12> In-reply-to: <20100627120115.B1HHE.8194622.root@mp12> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18197 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18197 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Group I'd mentioned in the meeting yesterday X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 23:20:19 -0000 X-Original-Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 19:19:06 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 23:20:19 -0000 By all means. Welcome all! Please read our homepage before you join, = to be sure you feel in alignment with the basic spirit of the list. I = imagine that would be most folks here. =20 Namaste': Tara Shakti-Ma )O(=20 http://www.facebook.com/Tara.ShaktiMa.Dakini =20 * Join us at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ExpansiveLoving/ - An = internationally serving on-line group for spiritually and new-paradigm = inclined poly-folk. We also have a companion group by the same name on = Facebook. =20 * New England Area Polyamory Network at = http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEAPN/ - Serving as a central resource for = poly-folk in and around the New England area...also with a companion = group on Facebook. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: dorothyk@charter.net=20 To: UUPoly-L@uupa.org=20 Cc: DorothyK@charter.net=20 Sent: Sunday, June 27, 2010 12:01 PM Subject: [UUPoly-L] Group I'd mentioned in the meeting yesterday This is the group I talked about being a good place to have a UUPA = presence...=20 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ExpansiveLoving/=20 Tara (email below) is primary for the group. Dorothy =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D To: From: "Tara Shakti-Ma" Date: Sun, 27 Jun 2010 10:19:51 -0400 Subject: Re: [ExpansiveLoving] Sustainable relationships _______________________________________________ The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about = yourself. UUPoly-L mailing list UUPoly-L@uupa.org http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l From valerie@valeriewhite.org Wed Jun 30 20:11:08 2010 Received: from cosmos.phy.tufts.edu (cosmos.phy.tufts.edu [130.64.83.16]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o610AErN026230 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 20:11:08 -0400 Received: from p92-11.acedsl.com ([66.114.92.11]:50545 helo=neptune.place.org) by cosmos.phy.tufts.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OU7M5-0007xw-Eb for uupoly-l@uupa.org; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 20:10:13 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.247] (port=1457 helo=VW.valeriewhite.org) by neptune.place.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OU7M4-0004Cy-VW for uupoly-l@uupa.org; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 20:10:13 -0400 Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.2.20100630200739.05c1f130@valeriewhite.org> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 To: uupoly-l@uupa.org From: Valerie White Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: [UUPoly-L] request for referral X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2010 00:11:08 -0000 X-Original-Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 20:09:28 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2010 00:11:08 -0000 Hi all you UU polys in the DC area. SFLDEF has received a request for a referral from a woman in Woodbridge, VA, which she says is 30 minutes south of DC. She's on the verge of a separation and divorce where polyamory and BDSM are an issue and custody of her children is at stake. Anyone have a savvy attorney to recommend? Valerie White Executive Director Sexual Freedom Legal Defense and Education Fund, Inc. www.sfldef.org From earthfather@cfnc.us Wed Jun 30 21:37:47 2010 Received: from vms173005pub.verizon.net (vms173005pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.5]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o611bB4I030864 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 21:37:47 -0400 Received: from MVRLENOVO2008 ([unknown] [173.66.84.83]) by vms173005.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0L4U00E50V52QWG0@vms173005.mailsrvcs.net> for uupoly-l@uupa.org; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 20:36:44 -0500 (CDT) From: "Michael Rios" To: Message-id: <2B0B9096E3D747E3AAC175EE131E6507@MVRLENOVO2008> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5931 Thread-index: AcsYsgSQSlI3cBQdT/eDvgyevtqttwAB5lCwAAAAfWAAANFC0AAAOVIQ Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] request for referral X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2010 01:37:47 -0000 X-Original-Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 21:36:38 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Jul 2010 01:37:47 -0000 Hi Valerie -- I'm sure you know to ask Ricci Levy of Woodhull and also the NCSF people. Jim Turner and Betsy Lehrfield might be a good resource - ask if you need contact info. Have you posted this on FetLife? NCSF has a FetLife group and people have posted requests for legal help there. Also there are several DC-area BDSM groups on FetLife which could be appropriate. There are lots of lawyers on FetLife! If you're not on the site, send me a write-up of what you need and how to contact you and I'll be happy to post it for you. --Sarah (via Michael) > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Valerie White > > > > Hi all you UU polys in the DC area. SFLDEF has received a request > > for a referral from a woman in Woodbridge, VA, which she says is 30 > > minutes south of DC. She's on the verge of a separation and divorce > > where polyamory and BDSM are an issue and custody of her children is > > at stake. Anyone have a savvy attorney to recommend? > > > > > > Valerie White > > Executive Director > > Sexual Freedom Legal Defense and Education Fund, Inc. > > www.sfldef.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about > yourself. > > UUPoly-L mailing list > > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l