From JasmineGld@aol.com Tue Mar 2 17:27:44 2010 Received: from imr-db03.mx.aol.com (imr-db03.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.97]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o22MRBi8022893 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 17:27:44 -0500 Received: from imo-da03.mx.aol.com (imo-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.201]) by imr-db03.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o22MR5UZ018534 for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 17:27:05 -0500 Received: from JasmineGld@aol.com by imo-da03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.9.) id g.bef.60a3814a (37579) for ; Tue, 2 Mar 2010 17:27:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from magic-m20.mail.aol.com (magic-m20.mail.aol.com [172.20.22.193]) by cia-mb05.mx.aol.com (v127_r1.2) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMB054-92cb4b8d90b7107; Tue, 02 Mar 2010 17:27:03 -0500 From: JasmineGld@aol.com Message-ID: <88ba.63da74d8.38beeab7@aol.com> To: uupoly-l@uupa.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5379 X-AOL-ORIG-IP: 74.130.8.252 X-AOL-IP: 172.20.22.193 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-AOL-SENDER: JasmineGld@aol.com Subject: [UUPoly-L] General Assembly X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 22:27:44 -0000 X-Original-Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 17:27:03 EST X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 22:27:44 -0000 Who plans to attend General Assembly in Minneapolis? --- What days will you be there? --- Will you serve as a delegate? _www.uua.org/ga_ (http://www.uua.org/ga) I found a hotel less expensive than the GA hotels, a few blocks from the convention center. Some suites will sleep six. Free wi-fi. Comfort Suites (MN126) 425 South 7th Street, Minneapolis, MN, US, 55415 Phone: (612) 333-3111 Fax: (612) 333-7425 _http://www.comfortsuites.com/hotel-minneapolis-minnesota-MN126?sid=oiCKg.6f MChgC2p.10_ (http://www.comfortsuites.com/hotel-minneapolis-minnesota-MN126?sid=oiCKg.6fMChgC2p.10) From union-consult@charter.net Wed Mar 3 12:10:33 2010 Received: from mta31.charter.net (mta31.charter.net [216.33.127.82]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o23HAWkU025547 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 12:10:33 -0500 Received: from imp10 ([10.20.200.15]) by mta31.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.09.02.04 201-2219-117-106-20090629) with ESMTP id <20100303171022.PLMS1847.mta31.charter.net@imp10> for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 12:10:22 -0500 Received: from kelly ([68.114.55.67]) by imp10 with smtp.charter.net id ohAL1d00T1T0s0405hAMS0; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 12:10:21 -0500 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=CEbJbmY4YrmlwGLF0eAA:9 a=0kG4z-SXGklQKzmGtMHVt2_CvxIA:4 Message-ID: From: "Union Consult" To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] females and multiple partners X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 17:10:33 -0000 X-Original-Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 12:10:16 -0500 X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 17:10:33 -0000 "For this study, the scientists worked with the fruitfly Drosophila pseudoobscura." Just the species we want to use for generalizing to humans (grin) From polydad8@yahoo.com Wed Mar 3 15:37:18 2010 Received: from web32508.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web32508.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.207.218]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id o23KaiEq008898 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 15:37:18 -0500 Received: (qmail 2299 invoked by uid 60001); 3 Mar 2010 20:36:44 -0000 Message-ID: <965663.1795.qm@web32508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: 56VnqxYVM1nJ6yHAC0n2zDwWOxs1F72UKhBl9pI90.Os41Q EWC.drdFjc8qHHO06hloiZDFocCjEyxB8tGIMu9Ri0Zlrg7rYJwEzkQic3Wb Xh1qBcYLhh6VMouCN3b5BV9zJzHQdJOxy4FwAtpHcodhllkythI04XPXZBgr h9Dv02TxtNBApIM6C9vQHfihOQxg1NNsg711uRDuR74cuw94ruVjDl9cjHmE Gnfn6i17GYciQxgTYuAPqkX_.XttFikCj77lUPygRikS3v.rSbvvczfnWfVB pAONuUG5G07dZ_qWg3W5muKhrLm2e Received: from [69.59.203.94] by web32508.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 12:36:43 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/9.2.12 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 From: Ess Jay To: uupoly-l@uupa.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: [UUPoly-L] GA X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 20:37:18 -0000 X-Original-Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 12:36:43 -0800 (PST) X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 20:37:18 -0000 I'll be there, and will be a delegate. I'm looking for cheap ways to do so, and think I've located some local friends with a couch to share, but any suggestions or offers for how to do this on the cheap will be greatly appreciated. best, Joel From polymike.rtfm@gmail.com Wed Mar 3 16:01:32 2010 Received: from mail-qy0-f192.google.com (mail-qy0-f192.google.com [209.85.221.192]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o23L1WlO010492 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 16:01:32 -0500 Received: by qyk30 with SMTP id 30so2298441qyk.16 for ; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 13:01:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.224.89.194 with SMTP id f2mr73780qam.350.1267650090231; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 13:01:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from ?192.168.1.2? (user-12l3jdf.cable.mindspring.com [69.81.205.175]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 21sm5508917iwn.7.2010.03.03.13.01.28 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Wed, 03 Mar 2010 13:01:29 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4B8ECE28.9050603@gmail.com> From: Mike User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: uupoly-l@uupa.org References: <965663.1795.qm@web32508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <965663.1795.qm@web32508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] GA X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 21:01:32 -0000 X-Original-Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 15:01:28 -0600 X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 21:01:32 -0000 couchsurfing.com Ess Jay wrote: > I'll be there, and will be a delegate. I'm looking for cheap ways to do so, and think I've located some local friends with a couch to share, but any suggestions or offers for how to do this on the cheap will be greatly appreciated. > > best, > > Joel From suregriffin@hotmail.com Wed Mar 3 16:11:43 2010 Received: from bay0-omc2-s5.bay0.hotmail.com (bay0-omc2-s5.bay0.hotmail.com [65.54.190.80]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o23LB94Q011462 for ; Wed, 3 Mar 2010 16:11:43 -0500 Received: from BAY118-W15 ([65.54.190.125]) by bay0-omc2-s5.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 3 Mar 2010 13:10:48 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [68.234.67.57] From: Sandra Griffin To: Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <4B8ECE28.9050603@gmail.com> References: <965663.1795.qm@web32508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, <4B8ECE28.9050603@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 03 Mar 2010 21:10:48.0200 (UTC) FILETIME=[FF18C080:01CABB15] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] GA X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 21:11:43 -0000 X-Original-Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 15:10:48 -0600 X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Mar 2010 21:11:43 -0000 Yes=2C couchsurfing.com is a great site for finding people who are willing = to open their homes to travelers. I've stayed with a teacher in New York Ci= ty=2C a college student in Connecticut=2C and will soon be meeting folks-wi= th-a-couch in Philadelphia. =20 I plan to be at GA along with my partner Bryan. Will uupa have a booth there this year? We can help staff. =20 Sandy =20 > Date: Wed=2C 3 Mar 2010 15:01:28 -0600 > From: polymike.rtfm@gmail.com > To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] GA >=20 > couchsurfing.com >=20 > Ess Jay wrote: > > I'll be there=2C and will be a delegate. I'm looking for cheap ways to = do so=2C and think I've located some local friends with a couch to share=2C= but any suggestions or offers for how to do this on the cheap will be grea= tly appreciated.=20 > >=20 > > best=2C > >=20 > > Joel > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l =20 _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft=92s powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469226/direct/01/= From haslamk@gmail.com Thu Mar 4 10:16:02 2010 Received: from mail-gw0-f47.google.com (mail-gw0-f47.google.com [74.125.83.47]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o24FFuT9009371 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 10:15:59 -0500 Received: by gwj23 with SMTP id 23so444355gwj.20 for ; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 07:15:53 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.100.74.16 with SMTP id w16mr1987171ana.63.1267715752798; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 07:15:52 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <7f7f511e1003040715u46baba2bn5be22e3193a5f479@mail.gmail.com> From: Ken Haslam To: UU Poly Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: [UUPoly-L] Can Unitarian Universalism Change X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 15:16:08 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 10:15:51 -0500 X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 15:16:08 -0000 UU World latest issue Spring 2010 has an article by Raul Rasor about how Unitarianism seems stuck in the present (or even the past) while claiming to seek diversity. Although the piece is about race, it might also seem to address Polyamory. As those on this list well know, some congregations as well as the UUA are still having difficulties accepting Polyamory as a valid relationship choice. A while back the treasurer of UUPA noted that (based on records of those who have joined UUPA) some 15 % of UU congregations have Poly people in them. This is not insignificant. If the UUA if truly committed to diversity, religious freedom, openness to new ideas and being a religion that should live in the present and not the past then it is time for establishing a dialogue between UUPA and UUA. Several years ago members of the UUPA met with the UU Clergy in, I think, Boston or Long Beach at GA, and agreed to establish a dialogue of continuing talks about how Polyamory might be accepted and understood by the UUA. It never happened. Since the UUA is being challenged to change and keep up with modern culture, is it time to try to establish a conversation again. I hope some of you will read this article and put it into the context of how UUA is dealing with Polyamorous families. Note I say UUA as I am well aware that some individual congregations are VERY understanding of Polyamory. How do we establish this dialogue? Ken Haslam -- Love withers under constraint; its very essence is liberty. It is compatible neither with obedience, jealousy nor fear. It is there most pure, perfect, and unlimited when its votaries live in confidence, equality and unreserve. Percy Bysshe Shelley Promote Acceptance of Relationship Choices Polyamory Leadership Network From alanmacrobert@gmail.com Thu Mar 4 12:31:11 2010 Received: from mail-pw0-f47.google.com (mail-pw0-f47.google.com [209.85.160.47]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o24HVASx018126 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 12:31:11 -0500 Received: by pwi5 with SMTP id 5so1632357pwi.20 for ; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 09:31:07 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: alanmacrobert@gmail.com Received: by 10.142.151.18 with SMTP id y18mr1138229wfd.338.1267723867231; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 09:31:07 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Sender-Auth: ce82880e23c8cb19 Message-ID: From: alan7388 To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Can Unitarian Universalism Change X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 17:31:13 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 12:31:07 -0500 X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 17:31:13 -0000 > Since the UUA is being challenged to change and keep > up with modern culture, is it time to try to establish a > conversation again. With all the positive media coverage in the last several years, a lot more people have heard of polyamory and its ideals than back in 2004 during the dust-up over the San Francisco newspaper article (about poly UUs "from Berkeley to Boston" wanting to redefine marriage). That was six years ago. The conversation might begin on a better footing now. > 15 percent of UU congregations Was it really that high? That would be 150 churches! Can't be. Alan M. Keep up with Polyamory in the News! http://polyinthemedia.blogspot.com/ From haslamk@gmail.com Thu Mar 4 12:40:44 2010 Received: from mail-yx0-f194.google.com (mail-yx0-f194.google.com [209.85.210.194]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o24HehL9019177 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 12:40:44 -0500 Received: by yxe32 with SMTP id 32so3904102yxe.30 for ; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 09:40:41 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.101.2.32 with SMTP id e32mr741470ani.239.1267724441610; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 09:40:41 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7f7f511e1003040940x459b19c9j82e8d5ea0a041ac8@mail.gmail.com> From: Ken Haslam To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Can Unitarian Universalism Change X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 17:40:46 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 12:40:41 -0500 X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 17:40:46 -0000 Alan , Dave Hall, treasurer of UUPA looked up all the congregations that have or had members who joined UUPA in the past 10 years and came up with this number. This came about during a series of letters to UUPoly-l telling where each of us was from and our congregation. I actually have his note somewhere as I plan on using it in a workshop for my congregation. And I tend to believe Dave. So it looks like there are lots of us out there. Ken On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 12:31 PM, alan7388 wrote: > > Since the UUA is being challenged to change and keep > > up with modern culture, is it time to try to establish a > > conversation again. > > With all the positive media coverage in the last several years, a lot > more people have heard of polyamory and its ideals than back in 2004 > during the dust-up over the San Francisco newspaper article (about > poly UUs "from Berkeley to Boston" wanting to redefine marriage). That > was six years ago. The conversation might begin on a better footing > now. > > > 15 percent of UU congregations > > Was it really that high? That would be 150 churches! Can't be. > > Alan M. > > Keep up with Polyamory in the News! > http://polyinthemedia.blogspot.com/ > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > -- Love withers under constraint; its very essence is liberty. It is compatible neither with obedience, jealousy nor fear. It is there most pure, perfect, and unlimited when its votaries live in confidence, equality and unreserve. Percy Bysshe Shelley Promote Acceptance of Relationship Choices Polyamory Leadership Network From airsafe1@comcast.net Thu Mar 4 14:34:18 2010 Received: from qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.48]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o24JXip6028686 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 14:34:17 -0500 Received: from omta24.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.92]) by qmta05.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id p7FT1d00A1zF43QA57ZbNU; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 19:33:35 +0000 Received: from DaveVostro1400 ([76.127.86.3]) by omta24.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id p7Wo1d00a04KFes8k7WpQa; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 19:30:49 +0000 From: "David Hall" To: References: <653967.1351.1267724828636.JavaMail.root@n01> Message-ID: <01491F0FB9FE4524BB6B7753374CABC2@DaveVostro1400> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acq7wrWzjqbAa+dZSxKueCzoyH81XgAC9UVw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 In-Reply-To: <653967.1351.1267724828636.JavaMail.root@n01> Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Can Unitarian Universalism Change X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 19:34:18 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 11:28:23 -0800 X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 19:34:18 -0000 Yes it can. I just counted again and we have 289 people who listed the names of 159 congregations, these are current or past members. Our list includes over 400 names of members/past members/inquirers/donators/etc. There are many names who only list CLF. For those of you on this list who are not members of UUPA, now would be a good time to join and let us know what congregation you attend. We really need your support. If you are a former/lapsed member, we need you to renew and continue to financially support our work. Dave Hall -----Original Message----- From: uupoly-l-bounces+airsafe1=comcast.net@uupa.org [mailto:uupoly-l-bounces+airsafe1=comcast.net@uupa.org] On Behalf Of Ken Haslam Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 9:41 AM To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Can Unitarian Universalism Change Alan , Dave Hall, treasurer of UUPA looked up all the congregations that have or had members who joined UUPA in the past 10 years and came up with this number. This came about during a series of letters to UUPoly-l telling where each of us was from and our congregation. I actually have his note somewhere as I plan on using it in a workshop for my congregation. And I tend to believe Dave. So it looks like there are lots of us out there. Ken On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 12:31 PM, alan7388 wrote: > > Since the UUA is being challenged to change and keep up with modern > > culture, is it time to try to establish a conversation again. > > With all the positive media coverage in the last several years, a lot > more people have heard of polyamory and its ideals than back in 2004 > during the dust-up over the San Francisco newspaper article (about > poly UUs "from Berkeley to Boston" wanting to redefine marriage). That > was six years ago. The conversation might begin on a better footing > now. > > > 15 percent of UU congregations > > Was it really that high? That would be 150 churches! Can't be. > > Alan M. > > Keep up with Polyamory in the News! > http://polyinthemedia.blogspot.com/ > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > -- Love withers under constraint; its very essence is liberty. It is compatible neither with obedience, jealousy nor fear. It is there most pure, perfect, and unlimited when its votaries live in confidence, equality and unreserve. Percy Bysshe Shelley Promote Acceptance of Relationship Choices Polyamory Leadership Network _______________________________________________ The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. UUPoly-L mailing list UUPoly-L@uupa.org http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l From JasmineGld@aol.com Thu Mar 4 15:03:48 2010 Received: from imr-ma03.mx.aol.com (imr-ma03.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.41]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o24K3Eqa030780 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 15:03:48 -0500 Received: from imo-ma02.mx.aol.com (imo-ma02.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.137]) by imr-ma03.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o24K3AHU015150 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 15:03:10 -0500 Received: from JasmineGld@aol.com by imo-ma02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.9.) id g.bf9.7a2268d5 (37037) for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 15:03:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from magic-d16.mail.aol.com (magic-d16.mail.aol.com [172.19.155.132]) by cia-db02.mx.aol.com (v127_r1.2) with ESMTP id MAILCIADB027-90ad4b9011f7ab; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 15:03:03 -0500 From: JasmineGld@aol.com Message-ID: <482a5.30e84aa7.38c16bf7@aol.com> To: uupoly-l@uupa.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5379 X-AOL-ORIG-IP: 74.130.8.252 X-AOL-IP: 172.19.155.132 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-AOL-SENDER: JasmineGld@aol.com Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Can Unitarian Universalism Change X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 20:03:48 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 15:03:03 EST X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 20:03:48 -0000 Ken wrote: > some 15 % of UU congregations have Poly people in them. 15% of UU congregations have people who have taken the initiative to join UUPA. For the record, we don't know for certain that all of these members are poly. Some might be allies. UUPA welcomes allies, whether or not they identify as polyamorous. Furthermore, for all we know, there might be dozens more congregations, maybe even hundreds, with poly people and allies who haven't signed up for membership. Alan wrote: > during the dust-up over the San Francisco newspaper article (about > poly UUs "from Berkeley to Boston" wanting to redefine marriage). I recently took another look at that article, to remind myself what the fuss was all about. Reading the text, it really was more well-balanced than I remembered. The HUGE problem was the headline, which didn't particularly mesh with the article text anyway. The headline misrepresented those interviewed and the UUA. Ken wrote: > Several years ago members of the UUPA met with the > UU Clergy in, I think, Boston or Long Beach at GA No, we didn't meet with the clergy. That connection has not yet been made. In Long Beach, the UUPA Board met with a staff committee that disbanded shortly thereafter. Ken wrote: > and agreed to establish a dialogue of continuing > talks about how Polyamory might be accepted > and understood by the UUA. This committee's disbanding made follow-up dialogue impossible with that particular committee. Even so, the path for increasing understanding and acceptance of polyamory is pretty clear. It all takes place at the congregational level: --> As poly people live their lives visibly and without shame in congregations, the "shock factor" disappears. --> As out poly people tell their stories to their congregations and ministers, bonding and community grow, and members and ministers begin to think about what they've been told --> As out poly people serve reliably and competently in their congregations, other UUs learn to value us. --> As out poly people become valued members of a congregation, cognitive dissonance grows in those members who would otherwise condemn poly people. This spurs people to wrestle with their stereotypes and pre-judgments. Re-evaluation occurs. Attitudes change. --> As attitudes change, more poly people begin to feel safe to live THEIR lives visibly and without shame in their congegations. --> The cycle repeats. Attitudes change faster. Ken wrote; > Since the UUA is being challenged to change > and keep up with modern culture, is it time to > try to establish a conversation again. It's time to establish conversations in each congregation, and with every minister. The UUA is not a UU pope. The UUA can't instruct it's congregations to do ANYTHING. It's the other way around. The congregations instruct the UUA what to do. Get involved in your congregation. Know the issues facing UUism. Bond with your UU community. Tell them your stories. Talk with your congregation's minister, or with any UU minister you have the opportunity to talk to. Talk about more than polyamory. Let them get to know you in many areas. How does health care reform impact you life? The recession? Immigration reform? ENDA? The Peacemaking Study Action Issue? Why are you a UU? What does UUism mean to you? How important is a welcoming, affirming UU congregation to you? Jasmine From JasmineGld@aol.com Thu Mar 4 15:11:15 2010 Received: from imr-da05.mx.aol.com (imr-da05.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.147]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o24KAfaH031613 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 15:11:14 -0500 Received: from imo-da03.mx.aol.com (imo-da03.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.201]) by imr-da05.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o24KAeSO006143 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 15:10:40 -0500 Received: from JasmineGld@aol.com by imo-da03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.9.) id g.c1a.7a628dd2 (55765) for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 15:10:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from magic-d16.mail.aol.com (magic-d16.mail.aol.com [172.19.155.132]) by cia-md05.mx.aol.com (v127_r1.2) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMD056-d9d54b9013be35a; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 15:10:38 -0500 From: JasmineGld@aol.com Message-ID: <48b2e.6f117212.38c16dbe@aol.com> To: uupoly-l@uupa.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5379 X-AOL-ORIG-IP: 74.130.8.252 X-AOL-IP: 172.19.155.132 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-AOL-SENDER: JasmineGld@aol.com Subject: [UUPoly-L] addition -- Re: Can Unitarian Universalism Change X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 20:11:16 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 15:10:38 EST X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 20:11:16 -0000 In a message dated 3/4/2010 3:03:52 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, JasmineGld@aol.com writes: > --> As out poly people become valued members of a congregation, ...or as valued members of a congregation come out as poly... > cognitive dissonance grows in those members who would > otherwise condemn poly people. This spurs people to wrestle > with their stereotypes and pre-judgments. > Re-evaluation occurs. Attitudes change. From marcus_t_cicero@hotmail.com Thu Mar 4 16:08:05 2010 Received: from blu0-omc2-s19.blu0.hotmail.com (blu0-omc2-s19.blu0.hotmail.com [65.55.111.94]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o24L7WfT003303 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 16:08:05 -0500 Received: from BLU146-W20 ([65.55.111.71]) by blu0-omc2-s19.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 4 Mar 2010 13:07:10 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [162.58.82.136] From: jay m To: Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Mar 2010 21:07:10.0462 (UTC) FILETIME=[A7BA51E0:01CABBDE] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: [UUPoly-L] Couchsurfing for GA in MSP X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 21:08:05 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 21:07:10 +0000 X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 21:08:05 -0000 Hi all.=20 We'd love to have a few of you stay at our place for the GA. My wife's an R= E director here in Minneapolis.=20 We live in South Minneapolis right by the airport and only live just over a= block from the light rail stop. I'll be able to show you around as well if= you so desire and you can tour my wife's church if you want. I'll be back from my trip on Wednesday night but that should be fine for ju= st about everyone attending the conference. My wife will already be home. FYI. We have two dogs and so if you're allergic or nervous=2C we will not b= e a good fit for you. Don't worry=2C they don't sleep on the futon. We also= have two children 6 & 3 and so if you have problems w/ ankle biters=2C you= might want to consider other arrangements. We do like to cook=2C visit loc= al restaurants/coops/museums/state parks=2C hike=2C work out. I agree=2C couchsurfing is great!!!=20 Take care and just let us know if we can host you.=20 Jay/Heidi =20 _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Trusted email with powerful SPAM protection. http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469227/direct/01/= From tarauni@charter.net Thu Mar 4 16:08:12 2010 Received: from mta21.charter.net (mta21.charter.net [216.33.127.81]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o24L88Cp003361 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 16:08:12 -0500 Received: from imp10 ([10.20.200.15]) by mta21.charter.net (InterMail vM.7.09.02.04 201-2219-117-106-20090629) with ESMTP id <20100304210755.GEVZ21519.mta21.charter.net@imp10> for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 16:07:55 -0500 Received: from StevePC ([68.189.48.44]) by imp10 with smtp.charter.net id p97v1d0040xCN840597vLQ; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 16:07:55 -0500 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=PHTTLgL6yIdnfaLAj74A:9 a=QWpidxbhN9Iwt0FUR8lLoIgBNf4A:4 a=rwhgbcoyKW9gqE1Vg0cA:9 a=unGa7ZMib7ywXCXzrtATS55GxiwA:4 a=hBJGJ0eyVTYA:10 Message-ID: <80476A9246FD4655838E5A91BF716A25@StevePC> From: "Stephen Maupin" To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 100304-1, 03/04/2010), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: [UUPoly-L] Harrad Community X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 21:08:12 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 13:07:33 -0800 X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 21:08:12 -0000 Does anyone remmember polyamorus group called Harrad Community in SF Bay = Area in the 70s? Steve From desmondravenstone@yahoo.com Thu Mar 4 20:09:19 2010 Received: from web50506.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web50506.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.38.82]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id o2519JTb016755 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 20:09:19 -0500 Received: (qmail 24385 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Mar 2010 01:09:19 -0000 Message-ID: <570666.24002.qm@web50506.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: wTbn5F0VM1nHQszk._K9TI4UTJtceSHqbfZP_VgoWg622vH 3p..ZZZOD0pumNo1x3jJK34J5zt9RYAa_3g.kAmeZOS.iNIaYXVkAnknk8BV hpMrmyBijD1LPMJwglh0Gz7WKoyiPHgw8365dRHqPGsmZbYmooPYCAV68anf AJMY4dzB4RnRxG0vdlNx23L21X0_BbBa8hSugzBqsB82yKqQrHsWhgMOzQ2M fwJooTIrVK0CIbJHBKvymHAE7Ylf1phPG5_DTkYx7TQuwnKbcb.nu3bmtyKI - Received: from [72.59.1.245] by web50506.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 17:09:19 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/9.2.12 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 From: Desmond Ravenstone To: uupoly-l@uupa.org In-Reply-To: <482a5.30e84aa7.38c16bf7@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Can Unitarian Universalism Change X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 01:09:20 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 17:09:19 -0800 (PST) X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 01:09:20 -0000 First: I always respond to the question of whether something can change the same way. Everything changes; the real question is in what direction that change will happen. And the answer lies with those who want that change to happen. As for Jasmine's comments ... Yes, our presence in UU congregations, and how we bring up poly and other "touchy" subjects, has an impact. Three years ago, when I formally joined Arlington Street Church, I asked people: "Do you know what you're getting yourselves into?" It was similar to the question our senior minister, an open lesbian, asked the congregation when they called her in 1989. Since then, I have been a very visible and active presence in worship services, congregation and committee meetings, Intro to UU classes, the Sacred Eros group on sexuality and spirituality, and the web. Recently, another poly person in the congregation asked during Candles of Joy and Concern: "Can I bring my loving partners here?" And the ministers answered: "Yes, by all means." And just this week, the chair of the nominating committee asked if I would be willing to serve as a delegate to the Mass Bay District's annual meeting this April. Not to mention the number of ministerial interns and seminary students who have served with us, and who have come away with a better understanding of both polyamory and BDSM from meeting and talking with me. Change happens. Whether it happens the way you want is up to you. Desmond Ravenstone "What you call sin, I call the great spirit of love, which takes a thousand forms..." http://ravenstonesreflections.blogspot.com http://www.myspace.com/desmond_ravenstone From anthony.roza@gmail.com Thu Mar 4 21:33:10 2010 Received: from mail-ww0-f47.google.com (mail-ww0-f47.google.com [74.125.82.47]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o252X95L021212 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 21:33:10 -0500 Received: by wwb31 with SMTP id 31so1082858wwb.20 for ; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 18:33:09 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.86.195 with SMTP id w45mr176580wee.82.1267756389159; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 18:33:09 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <7f7f511e1003040715u46baba2bn5be22e3193a5f479@mail.gmail.com> References: <7f7f511e1003040715u46baba2bn5be22e3193a5f479@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5aaa462a1003041833w7c534d53iebde8c1f24cdd8d2@mail.gmail.com> From: Roza Anthony To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Can Unitarian Universalism Change X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 02:33:10 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 21:33:09 -0500 X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 02:33:10 -0000 Also, speaking as someone who is not a member of the UUPA officially (sorry, I'll join when I can afford dues!), there are a lot of people out there who for whatever reason aren't on the Record, but are UU and poly. Roza On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Ken Haslam wrote: > A while back the treasurer of UUPA noted that (based on records of those > who > have joined UUPA) some 15 % of UU congregations have Poly people in them. > This is not insignificant. From airsafe1@comcast.net Fri Mar 5 02:09:00 2010 Received: from qmta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.40]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o2578Qut004575 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 02:08:59 -0500 Received: from omta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.11]) by qmta04.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id pJtz1d0040EPchoA4K8Lvs; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 07:08:20 +0000 Received: from DaveVostro1400 ([76.127.86.3]) by omta01.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id pK8K1d00204KFes8MK8K3V; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 07:08:20 +0000 From: "David Hall" To: References: <7f7f511e1003040715u46baba2bn5be22e3193a5f479@mail.gmail.com> <2654289.11.1267756544310.JavaMail.root@n01> Message-ID: <18FF2D4A257144528B1A0ED31ED22365@DaveVostro1400> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: Acq8DI3pNyqsrKBVTLSOi3Ux+DhesgAJYfQg X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 In-Reply-To: <2654289.11.1267756544310.JavaMail.root@n01> Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Can Unitarian Universalism Change X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 07:09:00 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 23:08:07 -0800 X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 07:09:00 -0000 For all: we accept membership applicants who ask for a waiver and we accept donations from folks who don't want to be listed as members or ask for confidentiality. A buffet of choices is available. We want members who can be counted (we have a number of incarcerated members who don't have money) and we always need donations, GA and ads are not cheap. Dave Hall -----Original Message----- From: uupoly-l-bounces+airsafe1=comcast.net@uupa.org [mailto:uupoly-l-bounces+airsafe1=comcast.net@uupa.org] On Behalf Of Roza Anthony Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 6:33 PM To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Can Unitarian Universalism Change Also, speaking as someone who is not a member of the UUPA officially (sorry, I'll join when I can afford dues!), there are a lot of people out there who for whatever reason aren't on the Record, but are UU and poly. Roza On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Ken Haslam wrote: > A while back the treasurer of UUPA noted that (based on records of > those who have joined UUPA) some 15 % of UU congregations have Poly > people in them. > This is not insignificant. _______________________________________________ The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. UUPoly-L mailing list UUPoly-L@uupa.org http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l From alanmacrobert@gmail.com Fri Mar 5 11:40:00 2010 Received: from mail-pw0-f47.google.com (mail-pw0-f47.google.com [209.85.160.47]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o25GdxCN004649 for ; Fri, 5 Mar 2010 11:39:59 -0500 Received: by pwi5 with SMTP id 5so2265367pwi.20 for ; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 08:39:56 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: alanmacrobert@gmail.com Received: by 10.142.61.39 with SMTP id j39mr762968wfa.299.1267807196382; Fri, 05 Mar 2010 08:39:56 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Sender-Auth: 561454ee5b631c06 Message-ID: From: alan7388 To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Subject: [UUPoly-L] Blue UUPA flyer at sci-fi cons? X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 16:40:00 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 11:39:56 -0500 X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 16:40:00 -0000 Quick question: Did anyone get on this list because of finding a blue UUPA flyer, "Polyamory in Liberal Religion," on the freebie tables at a science fiction convention in the last two years? I've been having them placed, and wonder whether they're getting any results. Thanks, Alan M. From stacey.nj@gmail.com Thu Mar 11 14:29:25 2010 Received: from mail-iw0-f191.google.com (mail-iw0-f191.google.com [209.85.223.191]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o2BJTOFE030046 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 14:29:25 -0500 Received: by iwn29 with SMTP id 29so403430iwn.10 for ; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:29:22 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.154.197 with SMTP id p5mr209625ibw.28.1268335761926; Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:29:21 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <986f041003111129h539bc0d8xa7e7369ea14f6412@mail.gmail.com> From: Stacey Greenstein To: njpoly@yahoogroups.com, uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: [UUPoly-L] passing along a survey X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 19:29:25 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 09:29:21 -1000 X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 19:29:25 -0000 I recently read about this survey on LiveJournal: _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ My name is Sonya Satinsky, and I'm a doctoral student in Health Behavior at Indiana University Bloomington. I'm currently recruiting participants for my dissertation study, at http://www.indiana.edu/~sexstudy. Researchers have found that the ways that we feel about our bodies' shapes/sizes/weights (positively, negatively, or neutrally) can be intimately connected to how we feel about ourselves as sexual beings. This is especially true of women and other female-identified or female-bodied individuals. The vast majority of studies on this topic have been conducted with either undergraduate students or with women who are enrolled in clinical weight loss programs. The experiences of these women may be different than the experiences of women in community samples (i.e., not college students, and not enrolled in a weight loss program). I'm hoping with this study to explore whether connections between bodily satisfaction or dissatisfaction and sexual health are evident among a more broadly-defined group of women. That's where you come in! The study is titled the Women's Body Image and Sexual Health Study, and if you choose to participate, it has two components. The first component is entirely online: participants will be asked to come to the study website every day for five weeks and answer a brief questionnaire about how you're feeling about your body that day, as well as your sexual activities. The second component is optional. If you would like, you can take part in two interviews conducted over the telephone, one about body issues, and the other around sexuality issues. Please feel free to forward this email to friends, members of your organizations or groups, and/or colleagues who may be interested in learning more about this study. I'm hoping to have representation from a broad array of women, including diversity in terms of how women feel about themselves. Eligible participants will be at least 18 years of age, living in the United States, with daily Internet access. Participants must belong to one of the following groups: women (meaning individuals who were assigned female sex at birth and who live and identify as female), transgender men, or transgender women. Cis-gender men (meaning individuals who were assigned male sex at birth, and currently live as men) are not eligible at this time. Individuals who would like to read additional information about the study and decide whether they would like to participate can go to this website: www.indiana.edu/~sexstudy. If you have additional questions about the study, please feel free to email me at ssatinsk@indiana.edu. Thanks for your time. Best, Sonya Satinsky, MPH, PhD(c) Project Coordinator, Center for Sexual Health Promotion Doctoral Student and Associate Instructor Department of Applied Health Science Indiana University Bloomington http://www.sexualhealth.indiana.edu -- a guy named Stacey From valerie@valeriewhite.org Fri Mar 12 21:52:27 2010 Received: from cosmos.phy.tufts.edu (cosmos.phy.tufts.edu [130.64.83.16]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o2D2pr1K028614 for ; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:52:27 -0500 Received: from p92-11.acedsl.com ([66.114.92.11]:39795 helo=neptune.place.org) by cosmos.phy.tufts.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NqHSD-0000TF-7W for uupoly-l@uupa.org; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:51:53 -0500 Received: from [192.168.0.247] (port=1246 helo=VW.valeriewhite.org) by neptune.place.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NqHSC-0003dx-N2 for uupoly-l@uupa.org; Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:51:52 -0500 Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.2.20100312215034.023ffd20@valeriewhite.org> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 To: uupoly-l@uupa.org From: Valerie White In-Reply-To: <986f041003111129h539bc0d8xa7e7369ea14f6412@mail.gmail.com> References: <986f041003111129h539bc0d8xa7e7369ea14f6412@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] passing along a survey X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 02:52:27 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:51:14 -0500 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 02:52:27 -0000 Can anyone recommend a poly-friendly/knowledgeable lawyer in Florida? Valerie Valerie White Executive Director Sexual Freedom Legal Defense and Education Fund, Inc. www.sfldef.org From jim@swankin-turner.com Sat Mar 13 21:10:30 2010 Received: from xsmtp14.mail2web.com (xsmtp14.mail2web.com [168.144.250.179]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o2E29vWY008182 for ; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 21:10:30 -0500 Received: from [10.5.31.8] (helo=hub02.ad2.softcom.biz) by xsmtp14.mail2web.com with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_ARCFOUR_MD5:16) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NqdE6-0002ZS-7C for uupoly-l@uupa.org; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 21:06:48 -0500 Received: from MBX74.ad2.softcom.biz ([10.5.13.39]) by hub02.ad2.softcom.biz ([10.5.31.8]) with mapi; Sat, 13 Mar 2010 21:05:11 -0500 From: Jim Turner To: "uupoly-l@uupa.org" Thread-Topic: [UUPoly-L] passing along a survey Thread-Index: AcrCWFUzt/uHkr1TQF2nf2GSv2bBBAAwiffg Message-ID: <3226BD9EF06DC74D884B7EB9A3A4824E40C0F59133@MBX74.ad2.softcom.biz> References: <986f041003111129h539bc0d8xa7e7369ea14f6412@mail.gmail.com> <7.0.1.0.2.20100312215034.023ffd20@valeriewhite.org> In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20100312215034.023ffd20@valeriewhite.org> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by msb.ernest-doss.org id o2E29vWY008182 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] passing along a survey X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 02:10:31 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 21:03:16 -0500 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 02:10:31 -0000 Douglas Wilson [douglaswilson@earthlink.net] -----Original Message----- From: uupoly-l-bounces+jim=swankin-turner.com@uupa.org [mailto:uupoly-l-bounces+jim=swankin-turner.com@uupa.org] On Behalf Of Valerie White Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 9:51 PM To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] passing along a survey Can anyone recommend a poly-friendly/knowledgeable lawyer in Florida? Valerie Valerie White Executive Director Sexual Freedom Legal Defense and Education Fund, Inc. www.sfldef.org _______________________________________________ The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. UUPoly-L mailing list UUPoly-L@uupa.org http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l From JasmineGld@aol.com Fri Mar 19 14:04:27 2010 Received: from imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (imr-ma02.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.40]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o2JI3sHB018322 for ; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 14:04:27 -0400 Received: from imo-ma03.mx.aol.com (imo-ma03.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.138]) by imr-ma02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o2JI3eoP007621; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 14:03:40 -0400 Received: from JasmineGld@aol.com by imo-ma03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.9.) id g.da9.58ba79 (43889); Fri, 19 Mar 2010 14:03:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from magic-m18.mail.aol.com (magic-m18.mail.aol.com [172.21.136.206]) by cia-dc05.mx.aol.com (v127_r1.2) with ESMTP id MAILCIADC052-ab714ba3bc78109; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 14:03:36 -0400 From: JasmineGld@aol.com Message-ID: <1bc87.50e21461.38d51678@aol.com> To: uupoly-l@uupa.org, LovingMore_lovelist@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5379 X-AOL-ORIG-IP: 74.130.8.252 X-AOL-IP: 172.21.136.206 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-AOL-SENDER: JasmineGld@aol.com Subject: [UUPoly-L] (no subject) X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:04:28 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 14:03:36 EDT X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:04:28 -0000 The Future of Marriage and Non-Traditional Relationships An interview with David Peters, marriage and family therapist; Janet Bowermaster, professor of law at California Western School of Law, specializing in children and family law; and Dossie Easton, marriage and family therapist and coauthor of "The Ethical Slut: A Practical Guide to Polyamory, Open Relationships and Other Adventures." Interview by Maureen Cavanaugh, Renee Villasenor March 18, 2010 "These Days" KPBS, San Diego _http://www.kpbs.org/news/2010/mar/18/future-marriage-and-non-traditional-re lationships/_ (http://www.kpbs.org/news/2010/mar/18/future-marriage-and-non-traditional-relationships/) From valerie@valeriewhite.org Fri Mar 19 20:16:16 2010 Received: from cosmos.phy.tufts.edu (cosmos.phy.tufts.edu [130.64.83.16]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o2K0FhUF005003 for ; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 20:16:16 -0400 Received: from p92-11.acedsl.com ([66.114.92.11]:45989 helo=neptune.place.org) by cosmos.phy.tufts.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NsmLu-0005vk-3J for uupoly-l@uupa.org; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 20:15:42 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.247] (port=2356 helo=VW.valeriewhite.org) by neptune.place.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NsmLt-0007Ar-HB for uupoly-l@uupa.org; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 20:15:41 -0400 Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.2.20100319201334.05c359a8@valeriewhite.org> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 To: uupoly-l@uupa.org From: Valerie White Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: [UUPoly-L] poly-savvy lawyer needed X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 00:16:16 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 20:14:20 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 00:16:16 -0000 in northern Indiana (South Bend). Anybody have any tips? Valerie White Executive Director Sexual Freedom Legal Defense and Education Fund, Inc. www.sfldef.org From julie.nebel1@gmail.com Sat Mar 20 00:02:42 2010 Received: from mail-iw0-f191.google.com (mail-iw0-f191.google.com [209.85.223.191]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o2K42gX9016251 for ; Sat, 20 Mar 2010 00:02:42 -0400 Received: by iwn29 with SMTP id 29so3283499iwn.10 for ; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 21:02:40 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.145.5 with SMTP id b5mr838091ibv.70.1269057759933; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 21:02:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <7.0.1.0.2.20100319201334.05c359a8@valeriewhite.org> References: <7.0.1.0.2.20100319201334.05c359a8@valeriewhite.org> Message-ID: From: Julie Nebel To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] poly-savvy lawyer needed X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 04:02:43 -0000 X-Original-Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 23:02:39 -0500 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 04:02:43 -0000 Also looking in Chicago... Thanks. On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 7:14 PM, Valerie White wrote: > in northern Indiana (South Bend). > > Anybody have any tips? > > > Valerie White > Executive Director > Sexual Freedom Legal Defense and Education Fund, Inc. > www.sfldef.org > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > From desmondravenstone@yahoo.com Sun Mar 21 21:40:36 2010 Received: from web50505.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web50505.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.38.81]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id o2M1ea6K012436 for ; Sun, 21 Mar 2010 21:40:36 -0400 Received: (qmail 91582 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Mar 2010 01:40:36 -0000 Message-ID: <252679.91578.qm@web50505.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: OCtY7coVM1kGLgkKyBsDejFGwgYw5oxoYUCob53m42zMbps IHTSzKLaKJhlQ8nDwCQqgWa8uYNF96U_sTGiXy09EuyD8SI29V7.kWyTvngt v5A.MRMZ1Y3gYYv_GK0M6YsL1p_VEhXMlfwogTyd08qPokXuj3ErcC_KvG0C OXjYVwKkiITJazh6a45.LJV0C6LQbHVRvXuUG20Hu.UwqbFI7Ih8R0q0eeEB zjELbvFKgAdWchFXsgVaRIbzofgwfVDvYoDFvJtW3vm4XtThNKAIZLN1jslE - Received: from [72.60.138.135] by web50505.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 21 Mar 2010 18:40:35 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/10.0.8 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 From: Desmond Ravenstone To: uupoly-l@uupa.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by msb.ernest-doss.org id o2M1ea6K012436 Subject: [UUPoly-L] It's official... X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 01:40:36 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 18:40:35 -0700 (PDT) X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 01:40:36 -0000 The congregation elected myself and two other members as delegates to the Mass Bay District annual meeting.  And we've already arranged a carpool to the meeting site in Needham. Desmond Ravenstone "What you call sin, I call the great spirit of love, which takes a thousand forms..." http://ravenstonesreflections.blogspot.com http://www.myspace.com/desmond_ravenstone From JasmineGld@aol.com Sun Mar 21 21:50:02 2010 Received: from imr-da02.mx.aol.com (imr-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.144]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o2M1nSeC013313 for ; Sun, 21 Mar 2010 21:50:02 -0400 Received: from imo-da02.mx.aol.com (imo-da02.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.200]) by imr-da02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o2M1nKxj026983 for ; Sun, 21 Mar 2010 21:49:20 -0400 Received: from JasmineGld@aol.com by imo-da02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.9.) id g.bc7.5e3b089e (34991) for ; Sun, 21 Mar 2010 21:49:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from magic-m19.mail.aol.com (magic-m19.mail.aol.com [172.21.136.208]) by cia-db01.mx.aol.com (v127_r1.2) with ESMTP id MAILCIADB014-88af4ba6cc9b184; Sun, 21 Mar 2010 21:49:15 -0400 From: JasmineGld@aol.com Message-ID: <94667.267a0151.38d8269b@aol.com> To: uupoly-l@uupa.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5378 X-AOL-ORIG-IP: 74.130.8.252 X-AOL-IP: 172.21.136.208 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-AOL-SENDER: JasmineGld@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] It's official... X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 01:50:02 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 21:49:15 EDT X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 01:50:02 -0000 Excellent! Do you know your District Executive? Or what she thinks about polyamory? How many people on this list have served as delegates to your district meeting or General Assembly? Were you out to your congregation when they chose you as delegate? Jasmine In a message dated 3/21/2010 9:40:50 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, desmondravenstone@yahoo.com writes: The congregation elected myself and two other members as delegates to the Mass Bay District annual meeting. And we've already arranged a carpool to the meeting site in Needham. From autumnfire1957@yahoo.com Sun Mar 21 22:03:55 2010 Received: from web33204.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33204.mail.mud.yahoo.com [209.191.69.152]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id o2M23L7j014392 for ; Sun, 21 Mar 2010 22:03:55 -0400 Received: (qmail 99153 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Mar 2010 02:03:21 -0000 Message-ID: <20774.98120.qm@web33204.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: hQ1Wdr0VM1n_6cdBn5F7DOgnMZv2CHSkbHNbQ6zWDND0AzK 80jEpHzeOYclH.Ha5Nix45qKKlsOySvVdVlmLu3HSoxsHfu7UF8L1CwV8_IO tKuPmO5xTLNV3pElms2oNAHcvyubhHZgxYHI8SBE0lD2kKyEBXfmk7XERQRK PjwZvIIm3NBD_AchBCARxA1.I23PjoDxvKSaMcLLc7d0k6OPC6dAx5yzO9eL JUZM_qPjsFjySXhr_UAMjRuqm8_tgwDNgiuGu4wh8_Xt0LEAFqE3a38udF7z ew3Jgaplf4itnCxMBfeQ.1zeAnHoF3tGT80rjJJqtpDDzb5Yi84rCaS8NDel ZHaWQSVa7InKWYDALzs9jiMZWYF_VuE8- Received: from [96.233.76.19] by web33204.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 21 Mar 2010 19:03:20 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/324.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 References: <252679.91578.qm@web50505.mail.re2.yahoo.com> From: joe ruivo To: uupoly-l@uupa.org In-Reply-To: <252679.91578.qm@web50505.mail.re2.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] It's official... X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 02:03:55 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 19:03:20 -0700 (PDT) X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 02:03:55 -0000 Congratulations! Maybe the Clara Barton district will have an open poly friendly delegate in the future. joe Garibaldi: "No Boom?" Sinclair: "No Boom." Ivanova: "No Boom Today; Boom Tomorrow. There's Always A Boom Tomorrow." ________________________________ From: Desmond Ravenstone To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Sent: Sun, March 21, 2010 9:40:35 PM Subject: [UUPoly-L] It's official... The congregation elected myself and two other members as delegates to the Mass Bay District annual meeting. And we've already arranged a carpool to the meeting site in Needham. Desmond Ravenstone "What you call sin, I call the great spirit of love, which takes a thousand forms..." http://ravenstonesreflections.blogspot.com http://www.myspace.com/desmond_ravenstone _______________________________________________ The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. UUPoly-L mailing list UUPoly-L@uupa.org http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l From desmondravenstone@yahoo.com Sun Mar 21 22:25:04 2010 Received: from web50507.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web50507.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.38.83]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id o2M2P4Dj015968 for ; Sun, 21 Mar 2010 22:25:04 -0400 Received: (qmail 13091 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Mar 2010 02:25:04 -0000 Message-ID: <321005.12394.qm@web50507.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: .W.jMfsVM1m3bnLQ6WEE5.wWy58N7.MJ60Id0QcBujcZl9k bz8AFqhTp57uF1oRqLVYlF3T8Ylj9g38ceGyjk0GYGMgEPymbLEBI3FzPKyJ CcQ7BboIs9WpmEn5BjJdU9hLfSDwgbRvtSdWKcVRfHZAzDjKNrTw.91cvOBJ Z5ptRWQyLImiiwoFcUiXF1ffLR2js3V53_aeXSzNqInp05Yr6A8XnMwU5lnV LYttr.IZKI7e9ZuNO.rUL4A-- Received: from [72.60.138.135] by web50507.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 21 Mar 2010 19:25:04 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/10.0.8 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 From: Desmond Ravenstone To: uupoly-l@uupa.org In-Reply-To: <94667.267a0151.38d8269b@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by msb.ernest-doss.org id o2M2P4Dj015968 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] It's official... X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 02:25:04 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 19:25:04 -0700 (PDT) X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 02:25:04 -0000 > Do you know your District Executive? Or what she thinks about  > polyamory? I do know Terasa Cooley, and she's aware of my being both kinky and poly. More important, my congregation knows. When asked to introduce myself to the meeting and why I wanted to be a delegate, I cited my work with the Sacred Eros sexuality group, which has brought me in contact with folks from other UU congregations in the area. The only "drama" was that one of the nominees had to decline, so the slate was temporarily short one person. Then one of the Prudential Committee memebers volunteered to fill the slot, so that was settled. Poly and kink were non-issues the whole time. Desmond From SRS0=kzvDye=LC=imladris.com=lists@eigbox.net Sun Mar 21 23:25:12 2010 Received: from bosmailout14.eigbox.net (bosmailout14.eigbox.net [66.96.189.14]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o2M3Oc8R019173 for ; Sun, 21 Mar 2010 23:25:12 -0400 Received: from bosmailscan05.eigbox.net ([10.20.15.5]) by bosmailout14.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1NtYFV-000739-JR for uupoly-l@uupa.org; Sun, 21 Mar 2010 23:24:17 -0400 Received: from bosimpout02.eigbox.net ([10.20.55.2]) by bosmailscan05.eigbox.net with esmtp (Exim) id 1NtYFU-0005nm-AG for uupoly-l@uupa.org; Sun, 21 Mar 2010 23:24:16 -0400 Received: from bosauthsmtp03.eigbox.net ([10.20.18.3]) by bosimpout02.eigbox.net with NO UCE id w3QG1d00103yW76013QGnS; Sun, 21 Mar 2010 23:24:16 -0400 X-EN-OrigOutIP: 10.20.18.3 X-EN-IMPSID: w3QG1d00103yW76013QGnS Received: from c-24-8-88-204.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([24.8.88.204] helo=[10.0.1.3]) by bosauthsmtp03.eigbox.net with esmtpa (Exim) id 1NtYFT-0004fo-QO for uupoly-l@uupa.org; Sun, 21 Mar 2010 23:24:16 -0400 Message-Id: <029E9FDE-BE91-4C05-9939-405F6A5ABE0D@imladris.com> From: Amanda Birmingham To: uupoly-l@uupa.org In-Reply-To: <94667.267a0151.38d8269b@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) References: <94667.267a0151.38d8269b@aol.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-EN-UserInfo: b148370c8a975850e78e70ea6fdff898:89bf212915d0c3ced6026b5acf5433ff X-EN-AuthUser: lists@imladris.com Sender: Amanda Birmingham X-EN-OrigIP: 24.8.88.204 X-EN-OrigHost: c-24-8-88-204.hsd1.co.comcast.net Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] It's official... X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 03:25:12 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 21:24:04 -0600 X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 03:25:12 -0000 I served as a delegate from my congregation to GA last year. I was out as poly (and was Board Secretary at the time). Amanda Birmingham Boulder Valley Unitarian Universalist Fellowship, Lafayette, CO On Mar 21, 2010, at 7:49 PM, JasmineGld@aol.com wrote: > > Excellent! Do you know your District Executive? Or what she thinks > about > polyamory? > > How many people on this list have served as delegates to your district > meeting or General Assembly? Were you out to your congregation when > they chose > you as delegate? > > Jasmine > > In a message dated 3/21/2010 9:40:50 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > desmondravenstone@yahoo.com writes: > > The congregation elected myself and two other members as delegates > to the > Mass Bay District annual meeting. And we've already arranged a > carpool to > the meeting site in Needham. > > > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about > yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l From marybeth.photo@yahoo.com Mon Mar 22 12:25:01 2010 Received: from n2b.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com (n2b.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com [76.13.13.72]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id o2MGOSj5027933 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 12:25:01 -0400 Received: from [76.13.13.26] by n2.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Mar 2010 16:24:28 -0000 Received: from [76.13.10.169] by t3.bullet.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Mar 2010 16:24:28 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp110.mail.ac4.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 22 Mar 2010 16:24:28 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 100365.9210.bm@omp110.mail.ac4.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 86882 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Mar 2010 16:24:27 -0000 Message-ID: <888905.86542.qm@web65312.mail.ac2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: skJz8VEVM1kexoPt0CrApuOcYuJ8ogn72tPjws5HquJE7IaChF_7jK7pJYbDwTgFr895U9io1YkUWoJH6V72KcpMvY4fagaoqgikIGz3Eg.qPyH.IjSkzd7Ql7Synr.p2FYMscdKsp8HtDKhGM.CWNrLD4SqMpTpMLydeeRq1P4H8.tExx5Z4ONuKnWtWrfEN52VROkC7ZLKynFG0nts2NdRmjkaplEHLUyIsywhODpQQ_Pthsb1utVPL0WcU2nw7WKnuL7E1p8Whh3KlivjCQiYFw-- Received: from [71.58.125.157] by web65312.mail.ac2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 09:24:27 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/324.3 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 From: Marybeth Williams To: uupoly-l@uupa.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: [UUPoly-L] Unsubscribe - thanks! X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 16:25:01 -0000 X-Original-Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 09:24:27 -0700 (PDT) X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 16:25:01 -0000 Namaste, Marybeth May you always have an abundance of all things good. From fantine@sonic.net Mon Mar 22 17:53:38 2010 Received: from a.mail.sonic.net (a.mail.sonic.net [64.142.16.245]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o2MLr4mH012713 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 17:53:38 -0400 Received: from FLOGGER3000 (75-101-18-7.dsl.static.sonic.net [75.101.18.7]) by a.mail.sonic.net (8.13.8.Beta0-Sonic/8.13.7) with ESMTP id o2MLr27P026327 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 14:53:02 -0700 From: "Fantine" To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6856 In-Reply-To: <029E9FDE-BE91-4C05-9939-405F6A5ABE0D@imladris.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcrJb0+/hXg76nniQNm079yUcHo0eQAmQxng Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by msb.ernest-doss.org id o2MLr4mH012713 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] It's official... X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 21:53:38 -0000 X-Original-Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 14:53:03 -0700 X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 21:53:38 -0000 Lower on the ladder, I am now on the board of my congregation, UU San Mateo CA. I will serve as secretary. I will present myself as the contact point for UUPA. 'Cesca P.S. Still hoping for a UUPA Chapter locally. What say you, SF Bay Area/Northern CA folk? From les.addison@gmail.com Mon Mar 22 18:02:26 2010 Received: from mail-px0-f192.google.com (mail-px0-f192.google.com [209.85.216.192]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o2MM2Qwc013667 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 18:02:26 -0400 Received: by pxi30 with SMTP id 30so4027970pxi.20 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 15:02:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.142.61.41 with SMTP id j41mr2531335wfa.142.1269295342715; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 15:02:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <029E9FDE-BE91-4C05-9939-405F6A5ABE0D@imladris.com> Message-ID: <284cb471003221502v2130550awcaea76b23f07646f@mail.gmail.com> From: Les Addison To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] It's official... X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 22:02:26 -0000 X-Original-Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 15:02:22 -0700 X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 22:02:26 -0000 Congrats, 'Cesca. Would be happy to do a chapter locally. On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 2:53 PM, Fantine wrote: > Lower on the ladder, I am now on the board of my > congregation, UU San Mateo CA. I will serve as > secretary. I will present myself as the contact point > for UUPA. > 'Cesca > > P.S. Still hoping for a UUPA Chapter locally. What say > you, SF Bay Area/Northern CA folk? > > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > From fantine@sonic.net Mon Mar 22 18:20:53 2010 Received: from a.mail.sonic.net (a.mail.sonic.net [64.142.16.245]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o2MMKJtH015015 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 18:20:53 -0400 Received: from FLOGGER3000 (75-101-18-7.dsl.static.sonic.net [75.101.18.7]) by a.mail.sonic.net (8.13.8.Beta0-Sonic/8.13.7) with ESMTP id o2MMKITK015245 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 15:20:18 -0700 From: "Fantine" To: Message-ID: <3A6ED18DF49B48F592C608601948FB14@FLOGGER3000> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6856 In-Reply-To: <284cb471003221502v2130550awcaea76b23f07646f@mail.gmail.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Thread-Index: AcrKC2Mgn4wN41B2R3G3lVFaIIPM6QAAlvVA Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by msb.ernest-doss.org id o2MMKJtH015015 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] It's official... X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 22:20:53 -0000 X-Original-Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 15:20:19 -0700 X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 22:20:53 -0000 With Bill, that would make three. Is that enough to qualify? Hmm... -----Original Message----- From: uupoly-l-bounces+fantine=sonic.net@uupa.org [mailto:uupoly-l-bounces+fantine=sonic.net@uupa.org] On Behalf Of Les Addison Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 3:02 PM To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] It's official... Congrats, 'Cesca. Would be happy to do a chapter locally. On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 2:53 PM, Fantine wrote: > Lower on the ladder, I am now on the board of my > congregation, UU San Mateo CA. I will serve as > secretary. I will present myself as the contact point > for UUPA. > 'Cesca > > P.S. Still hoping for a UUPA Chapter locally. What say > you, SF Bay Area/Northern CA folk? > > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > _______________________________________________ The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. UUPoly-L mailing list UUPoly-L@uupa.org http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l From JasmineGld@aol.com Mon Mar 22 20:32:09 2010 Received: from imr-db02.mx.aol.com (imr-db02.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.96]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o2N0VZHk022463 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 20:32:09 -0400 Received: from imo-ma02.mx.aol.com (imo-ma02.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.137]) by imr-db02.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o2N0VUg6019257 for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 20:31:30 -0400 Received: from JasmineGld@aol.com by imo-ma02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.9.) id g.bd8.4c25a183 (37144) for ; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 20:31:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from magic-m23.mail.aol.com (magic-m23.mail.aol.com [172.20.22.196]) by cia-ma03.mx.aol.com (v127_r1.2) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMA036-91184ba80bdddc; Mon, 22 Mar 2010 20:31:25 -0400 From: JasmineGld@aol.com Message-ID: <25163.314b224e.38d965dd@aol.com> To: uupoly-l@uupa.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5379 X-AOL-ORIG-IP: 74.130.8.252 X-AOL-IP: 172.20.22.196 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-AOL-SENDER: JasmineGld@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] It's official... X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 00:32:09 -0000 X-Original-Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 20:31:25 EDT X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 00:32:09 -0000 Requirements for a chapter are: * Three UUPA members who are also members of a UU congregation, * One of whom serves as a local contact person for UUPA. The chapter application is available on the website as a pdf file. _http://www.uupa.org/chapters_ (http://www.uupa.org/chapters) Jasmine Walston UUPA Secretary In a message dated 3/22/2010 6:21:07 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, fantine@sonic.net writes: With Bill, that would make three. Is that enough to qualify? Hmm... From METSummermoon@aol.com Tue Mar 23 11:41:51 2010 Received: from imr-da04.mx.aol.com (imr-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.146]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o2NFfIi6006462 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 11:41:51 -0400 Received: from imo-ma04.mx.aol.com (imo-ma04.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.139]) by imr-da04.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o2NFfFYk003935 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 11:41:15 -0400 Received: from METSummermoon@aol.com by imo-ma04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.9.) id g.d9f.10645e5 (29275) for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 11:41:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [75.60.38.161] (adsl-75-60-38-161.dsl.frs2ca.sbcglobal.net [75.60.38.161]) by ciabeta-da01.mx.aol.com (v127_r1.2) with ESMTP id MAILCIABETADA011-725b4ba8e11313; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 11:41:10 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 (Generated by Pantomime 1.2.0) From: metsummermoon To: uupoly-l@uupa.org In-Reply-To: <252679.91578.qm@web50505.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Pantomime (ADM 559) X-AOL-IP: 75.60.38.161 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-AOL-SENDER: METSummermoon@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] It's official... X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 15:41:52 -0000 X-Original-Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 08:40:12 -0700 X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 15:41:52 -0000 On Mar 21, 2010, at 6:40:35 PM, "Desmond Ravenstone" wrote: From: "Desmond Ravenstone" Subject: [UUPoly-L] It's official... Date: March 21, 2010 6:40:35 PM PDT To: uupoly-l@uupa.org The congregation elected myself and two other members as delegates to the= Mass Bay District annual meeting.=A0 And we've already arranged a carpool= to the meeting site in Needham. Desmond Ravenstone "What you call sin, I call the great spirit of love, which takes a thousan= d forms..." http://ravenstonesreflections.blogspot.com http://www.myspace.com/desmond_ravenstone =A0 =A0 Would appreciate being removed from your mailing list. I live in Fresno,= and so Seattle poly is not of interest to me at this time. =A0Thanks so= much, Margot Tepprman _______________________________________________ The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. UUPoly-L mailing list UUPoly-L@uupa.org http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l From dpagano@igc.org Tue Mar 23 13:38:52 2010 Received: from elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.65]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o2NHcqTU014279 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 13:38:52 -0400 Received: from [209.86.224.66] (helo=wamui-junio.atl.sa.earthlink.net) by elasmtp-kukur.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1Nu844-00073l-Eg for uupoly-l@uupa.org; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 13:38:52 -0400 Received: from 66.92.3.107 by webmail.c.earthlink.net with HTTP; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 13:38:51 -0400 Message-ID: <28105798.1269365931968.JavaMail.root@wamui-junio.atl.sa.earthlink.net> From: Darlene Pagano To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: EarthLink Zoo Mail 1.0 X-ELNK-Trace: 39a82346d7ceb269f84080ff3e30f22c58c11a653f85ccf3b08d262112a4a301350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 209.86.224.66 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] UUPoly-L Digest, Vol 66, Issue 10 X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: Darlene Pagano , uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 17:38:52 -0000 X-Original-Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 13:38:51 -0400 (EDT) X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 17:38:52 -0000 Well, let's kick this up to a higher gear. I am a member of First Unitarian, Oakland AND the new emerging congregation in Alameda, Live Oak Fellowship. I am a Trustee there and the Treasurer. I am going to DA next month, shall we all go and meet?? a PCD chapter should be easy to organize. I am hardly the only one in my congregation. (I am in Interweave at First Unitarian, Oakland and we JUST had session #3 of the BiSexuality Curriculum from the international office. There is a short segment where we have a direct discussion on poly, and now we are going to have to have a fifth session added to the group, because the poly discussion went the whole evening. And went well.) Darlene **************************************************************** >Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 14:53:03 -0700 >From: "Fantine" >Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] It's official... >To: >Lower on the ladder, I am now on the board of my >congregation, UU San Mateo CA. I will serve as >secretary. I will present myself as the contact point >for UUPA. > 'Cesca > >P.S. Still hoping for a UUPA Chapter locally. What say >you, SF Bay Area/Northern CA folk? > > >Message: 3 >Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 15:02:22 -0700 >From: Les Addison >Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] It's official... >To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > >Congrats, 'Cesca. > >Would be happy to do a chapter locally. > >On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 2:53 PM, Fantine wrote: > >> Lower on the ladder, I am now on the board of my >> congregation, UU San Mateo CA. I will serve as >> secretary. I will present myself as the contact point >> for UUPA. >> 'Cesca >> >> P.S. Still hoping for a UUPA Chapter locally. What say >> you, SF Bay Area/Northern CA folk? >> >Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 15:20:19 -0700 >From: "Fantine" >Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] It's official... >To: >Message-ID: <3A6ED18DF49B48F592C608601948FB14@FLOGGER3000> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >With Bill, that would make three. Is that enough to >qualify? Hmm... > >> 'Cesca >> >> P.S. Still hoping for a UUPA Chapter locally. What >say >> you, SF Bay Area/Northern CA folk? >> >> >Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 20:31:25 EDT >From: JasmineGld@aol.com >Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] It's official... >To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > >Requirements for a chapter are: > >* Three UUPA members who are also members of a UU congregation, >* One of whom serves as a local contact person for UUPA. > >The chapter application is available on the website as a pdf file. >_http://www.uupa.org/chapters_ (http://www.uupa.org/chapters) > >Jasmine Walston >UUPA Secretary > visit the website of ColorLines magazine www.colorlines.com From JasmineGld@aol.com Tue Mar 23 14:11:06 2010 Received: from imr-da05.mx.aol.com (imr-da05.mx.aol.com [205.188.105.147]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o2NIA0oJ016219 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 14:11:06 -0400 Received: from imo-ma04.mx.aol.com (imo-ma04.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.139]) by imr-da05.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o2NI9oTN016497 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 14:09:50 -0400 Received: from JasmineGld@aol.com by imo-ma04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.9.) id g.cda.635bb734 (55731) for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 14:09:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from magic-d18.mail.aol.com (magic-d18.mail.aol.com [172.19.155.134]) by cia-md03.mx.aol.com (v127_r1.2) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMD036-d9b34ba903e7101; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 14:09:43 -0400 From: JasmineGld@aol.com Message-ID: <3e6b0.2a2f1f0a.38da5de7@aol.com> To: uupoly-l@uupa.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5379 X-AOL-ORIG-IP: 74.130.8.252 X-AOL-IP: 172.19.155.134 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-AOL-SENDER: JasmineGld@aol.com Subject: [UUPoly-L] NOT Seattle Poly & unsub info -- Re: It's official... X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 18:11:07 -0000 X-Original-Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 14:09:43 EDT X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 18:11:07 -0000 Margot, UUPoly-L is NOT Seattle poly. UUPoly-L is for people in any location who are interested in both polyamory and UUism. UUPoly-L has subscribers from across the US, and I think it has subscribers from other countries as well. For example, in your post, you copied Desmond's post about Massachusetts. Another member responded about the San Francisco area in California. If you still want to unsubscribe, visit the UUPoly-L webpage to unsubscribe yourself directly, or get the list managers' email addresses on the same page. http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l Jasmine In a message dated 3/23/2010 11:42:24 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, metsummermoon@aol.com writes: Would appreciate being removed from your mailing list. I live in Fresno, and so Seattle poly is not of interest to me at this time. Thanks so much, Margot Tepprman From fantine@sonic.net Tue Mar 23 15:06:43 2010 Received: from a.mail.sonic.net (a.mail.sonic.net [64.142.16.245]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o2NJ5a1g019605 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 15:06:43 -0400 Received: from FLOGGER3000 (75-101-18-7.dsl.static.sonic.net [75.101.18.7]) by a.mail.sonic.net (8.13.8.Beta0-Sonic/8.13.7) with ESMTP id o2NJ5IEw002001; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 12:05:28 -0700 From: "Fantine" To: "'Darlene Pagano'" , Message-ID: <3F19CD8E93594C168C53D64A1CBBE400@FLOGGER3000> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6856 In-Reply-To: <28105798.1269365931968.JavaMail.root@wamui-junio.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Thread-Index: AcrKr71zqfKoCAAuSFmV2uhKkC1ARgACpPmw X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by msb.ernest-doss.org id o2NJ5a1g019605 Subject: [UUPoly-L] UUPA @ PCD DA X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 19:06:43 -0000 X-Original-Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 12:05:20 -0700 X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 19:06:43 -0000 What a great idea! Les, Bill, anyone else? Are you likely to be at PCD DA? 4/30-5/2 @ Newark/Fremont CA, www.pcd-uua.org Can we pick a time, such as Friday dinner or sometime Saturday? 'Cesca -----Original Message----- From: uupoly-l-bounces+fantine=sonic.net@uupa.org [mailto:uupoly-l-bounces+fantine=sonic.net@uupa.org] On Behalf Of Darlene Pagano Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 10:39 AM To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] UUPoly-L Digest, Vol 66, Issue 10 Well, let's kick this up to a higher gear. I am a member of First Unitarian, Oakland AND the new emerging congregation in Alameda, Live Oak Fellowship. I am a Trustee there and the Treasurer. I am going to DA next month, shall we all go and meet?? a PCD chapter should be easy to organize. I am hardly the only one in my congregation. (I am in Interweave at First Unitarian, Oakland and we JUST had session #3 of the BiSexuality Curriculum from the international office. There is a short segment where we have a direct discussion on poly, and now we are going to have to have a fifth session added to the group, because the poly discussion went the whole evening. And went well.) Darlene ******************************************************* ********* >Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 14:53:03 -0700 >From: "Fantine" >Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] It's official... >To: >Lower on the ladder, I am now on the board of my >congregation, UU San Mateo CA. I will serve as >secretary. I will present myself as the contact point >for UUPA. > 'Cesca > >P.S. Still hoping for a UUPA Chapter locally. What say >you, SF Bay Area/Northern CA folk? > > >Message: 3 >Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 15:02:22 -0700 >From: Les Addison >Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] It's official... >To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > >Congrats, 'Cesca. > >Would be happy to do a chapter locally. > >On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 2:53 PM, Fantine wrote: > >> Lower on the ladder, I am now on the board of my >> congregation, UU San Mateo CA. I will serve as >> secretary. I will present myself as the contact point >> for UUPA. >> 'Cesca >> >> P.S. Still hoping for a UUPA Chapter locally. What say >> you, SF Bay Area/Northern CA folk? >> >Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 15:20:19 -0700 >From: "Fantine" >Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] It's official... >To: >Message-ID: <3A6ED18DF49B48F592C608601948FB14@FLOGGER3000> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >With Bill, that would make three. Is that enough to >qualify? Hmm... > >> 'Cesca >> >> P.S. Still hoping for a UUPA Chapter locally. What >say >> you, SF Bay Area/Northern CA folk? >> >> >Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 20:31:25 EDT >From: JasmineGld@aol.com >Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] It's official... >To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > >Requirements for a chapter are: > >* Three UUPA members who are also members of a UU congregation, >* One of whom serves as a local contact person for UUPA. > >The chapter application is available on the website as a pdf file. >_http://www.uupa.org/chapters_ (http://www.uupa.org/chapters) > >Jasmine Walston >UUPA Secretary > visit the website of ColorLines magazine www.colorlines.com _______________________________________________ The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. UUPoly-L mailing list UUPoly-L@uupa.org http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l From erika613@yahoo.com Tue Mar 23 16:18:54 2010 Received: from web54106.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web54106.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.37.241]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id o2NKHm9i023806 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 16:18:54 -0400 Received: (qmail 30281 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Mar 2010 20:17:47 -0000 Message-ID: <872194.30039.qm@web54106.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: JrnuhCAVM1mh6O_cqL1brYxszIJeGPuyHW34skIL04kXUx5 bUGXA17mY85O0G9o5LVm2BQbCcKNrdoyt_G4YzEo7wR8yQGmyi8aQLkIc7Mw eSsHtRfhyfV_YORtENx1zfAqlyx7afIjNwlyZuKFFRDzFy4pQAr5h4iY7plq CGvPnKHUD33wzc28m1nD4FFVzxPfk5llzt6Y1_srrJwBDDCAg7RgbiBw._9v IxD7UP_e518plhcrNqZUIsGj7RRkx_QDNXJvHt3Q2E6bLk1Eu2RtSuXDM6IU ZQE88gEUDPsChc2abelZteaFOE.c2peTM_9pisXqa94yTFfAU.XW4GdjxXq9 TiKW7 Received: from [207.105.30.55] by web54106.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 13:17:47 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/10.0.8 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 From: "Erika M. Jackson" To: uupoly-l@uupa.org In-Reply-To: <3F19CD8E93594C168C53D64A1CBBE400@FLOGGER3000> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by msb.ernest-doss.org id o2NKHm9i023806 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] UUPA @ PCD DA X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: erikamjackson@gmail.com, uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 20:18:55 -0000 X-Original-Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 13:17:47 -0700 (PDT) X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 20:18:55 -0000 I'm not sure if I'm attending DA, but I would be interested in meeting SF Bay Area folks for a quick get-together. -erika --- On Tue, 3/23/10, Fantine wrote: > From: Fantine > Subject: [UUPoly-L] UUPA @ PCD DA > To: "'Darlene Pagano'" , uupoly-l@uupa.org > Date: Tuesday, March 23, 2010, 12:05 PM > What a great idea!  Les, Bill, > anyone else? Are you > likely to be at PCD DA? 4/30-5/2 @ Newark/Fremont CA, > www.pcd-uua.org   Can we pick a time, such > as Friday > dinner or sometime Saturday? > >     'Cesca > > -----Original Message----- > From: uupoly-l-bounces+fantine=sonic.net@uupa.org > [mailto:uupoly-l-bounces+fantine=sonic.net@uupa.org] > On > Behalf Of Darlene Pagano > Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 10:39 AM > To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] UUPoly-L Digest, Vol 66, Issue > 10 > > Well, let's kick this up to a higher gear. I am a > member of First Unitarian, Oakland AND the new emerging > congregation in Alameda, Live Oak Fellowship.  I am a > Trustee there and the Treasurer.  > I am going to DA next month, shall we all go and meet?? > a PCD chapter should be easy to organize.  > > I am hardly the only one in my congregation. > > (I am in Interweave at First Unitarian, Oakland and we > JUST had session #3 of the BiSexuality Curriculum from > the international office.  There is a short segment > where we have a direct discussion on poly, already been mentioned briefly in earlier sessions> and > now we are going to have to have a fifth session added > to the group, because the poly discussion went the > whole evening.   And went well.)  > > Darlene > > ******************************************************* > ********* > >Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 14:53:03 -0700 > >From: "Fantine" > >Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] It's official... > >To: > > >Lower on the ladder, I am now on the board of my > >congregation, UU San Mateo CA.  I will serve as > >secretary.  I will present myself as the contact > point > >for UUPA. > >    'Cesca > > > >P.S. Still hoping for a UUPA Chapter locally.  > What > say > >you, SF Bay Area/Northern CA folk? > > > > > >Message: 3 > >Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 15:02:22 -0700 > >From: Les Addison > >Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] It's official... > >To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > > > >Congrats, 'Cesca. > > > >Would be happy to do a chapter locally. > > > >On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 2:53 PM, Fantine > > wrote: > > > >> Lower on the ladder, I am now on the board of my > >> congregation, UU San Mateo CA.  I will serve > as > >> secretary.  I will present myself as the > contact > point > >> for UUPA. > >>        'Cesca > >> > >> P.S. Still hoping for a UUPA Chapter > locally.  What > say > >> you, SF Bay Area/Northern CA folk? > >> > > >Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 15:20:19 -0700 > >From: "Fantine" > >Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] It's official... > >To: > >Message-ID: > <3A6ED18DF49B48F592C608601948FB14@FLOGGER3000> > >Content-Type: text/plain;    > charset="us-ascii" > > > >With Bill, that would make three.  Is that enough > to > >qualify? Hmm... > > > > >>        'Cesca > >> > >> P.S. Still hoping for a UUPA Chapter > locally.  What > >say > >> you, SF Bay Area/Northern CA folk? > >> > >> > > >Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 20:31:25 EDT > >From: JasmineGld@aol.com > >Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] It's official... > >To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > > > > >Requirements for a chapter are: > > > >* Three UUPA members who are also members of a UU > congregation, > >* One of whom serves as a local contact person for > UUPA. > > > >The chapter application is available on the website as > a pdf file. > >_http://www.uupa.org/chapters_ > (http://www.uupa.org/chapters) > > > >Jasmine Walston > >UUPA Secretary > > > > > > > > > visit the website of > ColorLines magazine > www.colorlines.com > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to > reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal > about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > From greystone.house@pacbell.net Tue Mar 23 16:25:42 2010 Received: from smtp106.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com (smtp106.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com [67.195.14.109]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id o2NKOZAP025014 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 16:25:42 -0400 Received: (qmail 32613 invoked from network); 23 Mar 2010 20:24:35 -0000 Received: from adsl-75-18-230-54.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net (greystone.house@75.18.230.54 with login) by smtp106.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 23 Mar 2010 13:24:33 -0700 PDT X-Yahoo-SMTP: xS6r5G6swBDFMM5aX5w3GvF6PVrg7BsZUjqbfT16y5gki9exndB1DA-- X-YMail-OSG: DGnNp_IVM1lzSx6XyRLc5GGX3L0SgxSGyHcasTZ7HjsYUY96VM0Kl7q7rVDiv3QiezW580FGMdQI7wLmR.uzQ6X_jsSCR9zSOeCSHqxNgtcvGSd.nIGJJUzlpiW6DHpGd0Gej4oeKwS2oxLkTXR2fbgZVtXA2jEywVlgmP5_us_zMObwRV6ZkFjYqgiE2b.m2_PB8qdRmTFCkHQv_nOIPrlDYbAz_.sdnMMoRY7uJ6t17Qg4XEAhAmeZem3uJvzNEVcfek1Ks6KHqW1bFCmfoWHpfCcy7RFWVQ-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: From: "Emily M.-R. B." To: References: <3F19CD8E93594C168C53D64A1CBBE400@FLOGGER3000> In-Reply-To: <3F19CD8E93594C168C53D64A1CBBE400@FLOGGER3000> Organization: Greystone House MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] UUPA @ PCD DA X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 20:25:42 -0000 X-Original-Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 13:24:31 -0700 X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 20:25:42 -0000 I'm following the SF Bay Area/ N.Ca. thread with interest because I'm local, but I'm not a member of any congregation (it's been years since I've even managed to be in church on Sunday.) In addition, what organizational energies I have are already committed elsewhere, which is why I haven't spoken up before now. I don't really have a lot to offer at this "let's make it happen!" stage; right now I think you need people who can do a bit more than simply be reliable sources of potluck dishes & conversation for get-togethers! :) This is something that I've hoped for some time would occur, though, so I'd like to stay in touch with whatever's happening, if possible. - Emily ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fantine" > What a great idea! Les, Bill, anyone else? Are you > likely to be at PCD DA? 4/30-5/2 @ Newark/Fremont CA, > www.pcd-uua.org Can we pick a time, such as Friday > dinner or sometime Saturday? > > 'Cesca From airsafe1@comcast.net Tue Mar 23 18:53:26 2010 Received: from qmta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.80]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o2NMqJgU001458 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 18:53:26 -0400 Received: from omta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.59]) by qmta08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id wjg61d0071GXsucA8msD2l; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 22:52:13 +0000 Received: from DaveVostro1400 ([76.127.86.3]) by omta07.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id wmsC1d00a04KFes8TmsDhu; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 22:52:13 +0000 From: "David Hall" To: "'Darlene Pagano'" , References: <19780920.1933.1269366124236.JavaMail.root@n01> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcrKsCZaNSWZAGGOSHWVJOvTAsSrEgAKzgPA X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 In-Reply-To: <19780920.1933.1269366124236.JavaMail.root@n01> Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] UUPoly-L Digest, Vol 66, Issue 10 X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 22:53:27 -0000 X-Original-Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 15:52:06 -0700 X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 22:53:27 -0000 Great news, would like to know more about this. Dave -----Original Message----- From: uupoly-l-bounces+airsafe1=comcast.net@uupa.org [mailto:uupoly-l-bounces+airsafe1=comcast.net@uupa.org] On Behalf Of Darlene Pagano Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 10:39 AM To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] UUPoly-L Digest, Vol 66, Issue 10 Well, let's kick this up to a higher gear. I am a member of First Unitarian, Oakland AND the new emerging congregation in Alameda, Live Oak Fellowship. I am a Trustee there and the Treasurer. I am going to DA next month, shall we all go and meet?? a PCD chapter should be easy to organize. I am hardly the only one in my congregation. (I am in Interweave at First Unitarian, Oakland and we JUST had session #3 of the BiSexuality Curriculum from the international office. There is a short segment where we have a direct discussion on poly, and now we are going to have to have a fifth session added to the group, because the poly discussion went the whole evening. And went well.) Darlene **************************************************************** >Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 14:53:03 -0700 >From: "Fantine" >Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] It's official... >To: >Lower on the ladder, I am now on the board of my congregation, UU San >Mateo CA. I will serve as secretary. I will present myself as the >contact point for UUPA. > 'Cesca > >P.S. Still hoping for a UUPA Chapter locally. What say you, SF Bay >Area/Northern CA folk? > > >Message: 3 >Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 15:02:22 -0700 >From: Les Addison >Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] It's official... >To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > >Congrats, 'Cesca. > >Would be happy to do a chapter locally. > >On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 2:53 PM, Fantine wrote: > >> Lower on the ladder, I am now on the board of my congregation, UU San >> Mateo CA. I will serve as secretary. I will present myself as the >> contact point for UUPA. >> 'Cesca >> >> P.S. Still hoping for a UUPA Chapter locally. What say you, SF Bay >> Area/Northern CA folk? >> >Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 15:20:19 -0700 >From: "Fantine" >Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] It's official... >To: >Message-ID: <3A6ED18DF49B48F592C608601948FB14@FLOGGER3000> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >With Bill, that would make three. Is that enough to qualify? Hmm... > >> 'Cesca >> >> P.S. Still hoping for a UUPA Chapter locally. What >say >> you, SF Bay Area/Northern CA folk? >> >> >Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 20:31:25 EDT >From: JasmineGld@aol.com >Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] It's official... >To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > >Requirements for a chapter are: > >* Three UUPA members who are also members of a UU congregation, >* One of whom serves as a local contact person for UUPA. > >The chapter application is available on the website as a pdf file. >_http://www.uupa.org/chapters_ (http://www.uupa.org/chapters) > >Jasmine Walston >UUPA Secretary > visit the website of ColorLines magazine www.colorlines.com _______________________________________________ The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. UUPoly-L mailing list UUPoly-L@uupa.org http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l From cwlee@post.harvard.edu Tue Mar 23 19:29:41 2010 Received: from elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.62]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o2NNTfAF003790 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 19:29:41 -0400 Received: from [4.231.172.76] (helo=System4) by elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1NuDXW-0000YP-N3 for uupoly-l@uupa.org; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 19:29:39 -0400 Message-ID: <220F75FAA5E9413F96D92001BA4AB203@System4> From: "CWLee" To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-ELNK-Trace: 7141e3bbddc8a6d4f1b7fbad2ae65da374bf435c0eb9d478b70b5649587b8254fd4700144eeb67f9c9f13fddfa2489ae350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 4.231.172.76 Subject: [UUPoly-L] Slightly OT - An Interesting Triad X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 23:29:41 -0000 X-Original-Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 16:28:19 -0700 X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 23:29:41 -0000 http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/21/fashion/21LOVE.html (It would be nice to find a way to suggest to the author that she explore the world of poly - either professionally as a writer or personally as a woman who is already more than halfway there.) Best regards to all, Chuck Lee. ---------- CWLee Former slayer of dragons; practice now limited to sacred cows. Believing we should hire for quality, not quotas, and promote for performance, not preferences. From cyn@technomom.com Tue Mar 23 19:56:50 2010 Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.194]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o2NNtino005475 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 19:56:50 -0400 Received: from mail-ww0-f47.google.com (mail-ww0-f47.google.com [74.125.82.47]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus4) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0M8lzI-1NkMZU0rYS-00C9sU; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 19:55:41 -0400 Received: by wwa36 with SMTP id 36so1383066wwa.20 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 16:55:38 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.85.130 with SMTP id u2mr3876678wee.49.1269388538504; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 16:55:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <220F75FAA5E9413F96D92001BA4AB203@System4> References: <220F75FAA5E9413F96D92001BA4AB203@System4> Message-ID: <218ed5c51003231655p1ec3fc0ey4605e7a09c90e6cd@mail.gmail.com> From: Cynthia Armistead To: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19jswPiUxNge5CZDtcMPtWj9k7zT0EdPVo19GN O/r3rwYJrNpUme3XLpDshglGJml3VGNcY/Nty21JCDU0OQ5sqO Hp32+bscnn+lvEPCdImLVXjDh1ZJFnj Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Slightly OT - An Interesting Triad X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 23:56:50 -0000 X-Original-Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 19:55:38 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 23:56:50 -0000 On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 7:28 PM, CWLee wrote: > > > http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/21/fashion/21LOVE.html > > (It would be nice to find a way to suggest to the author > that she explore the world of poly - either professionally > as a writer or personally as a woman who is already more > than halfway there.) > You're the second person who has posted that URL to a poly list this week (that I know of). I agree with you that there are some poly aspects to their arrangement. The article struck me as somewhat sad. The author sounded wistful, as if she was still grieving for the lost parts of her marriage and just glad to have the contact she does have with her ex-husband. The whole thing does sound as if it is much, much healthier for their son than the acrimonious arrangements that many divorced parents manage, of course, but I didn't get much of a feel for how their son is doing, as he wasn't the focus of the article. Maybe it's the ex-husband who needs the introduction to polyamory? Maybe if he had known that he could have some variety and breathing space in his life they would still be married. We never got his point of view, though. All we heard was that he had said, "I'm done with this" (that's what I recall - I didn't go back and read the article a second time, to be honest). Does the article have a space for comments, or is there a way to correspond with the author? Cyn From mknd17@hotmail.com Tue Mar 23 20:40:14 2010 Received: from snt0-omc2-s1.snt0.hotmail.com (snt0-omc2-s1.snt0.hotmail.com [65.55.90.76]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o2O0d7Ak008625 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 20:40:14 -0400 Received: from SNT102-W24 ([65.55.90.71]) by snt0-omc2-s1.snt0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 23 Mar 2010 17:38:45 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [68.169.156.236] From: Timothy McKee To: Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <220F75FAA5E9413F96D92001BA4AB203@System4> References: <220F75FAA5E9413F96D92001BA4AB203@System4> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Mar 2010 00:38:45.0992 (UTC) FILETIME=[5CB3B680:01CACAEA] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Slightly OT - An Interesting Triad X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 00:40:14 -0000 X-Original-Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 20:38:46 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 00:40:14 -0000 Joyce Carol Oates exhorts her aspiring writers to tell not their own story = but other people's stories. Still people tell their own stories. I broug= ht up THE SISTERS ANTIPODES by Jane Alison in this forum once as a cautiona= ry tale about how to not do polyamory. Someone has observed that the same = stories happen over and over with the same vehemency as if they never happe= ned before. In THE SISTERS ANTIPODES two men exchanged wives and daughters = and years later one of the daughters died of a drug overdose. =20 I am sure the author will get lots of letters=3B I don't know how many wou= ld suggest they look at some variation of polyamory which they seem to alre= ady have. =20 Tim =20 > From: cwlee@post.harvard.edu > To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > Date: Tue=2C 23 Mar 2010 16:28:19 -0700 > Subject: [UUPoly-L] Slightly OT - An Interesting Triad >=20 >=20 >=20 > http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/21/fashion/21LOVE.html >=20 > (It would be nice to find a way to suggest to the author=20 > that she explore the world of poly - either professionally=20 > as a writer or personally as a woman who is already more=20 > than halfway there.) >=20 > Best regards to all=2C Chuck Lee. > ---------- > CWLee > Former slayer of dragons=3B practice now limited to sacred > cows. Believing we should hire for quality=2C not quotas=2C and > promote for performance=2C not preferences. >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l = From cwlee@post.harvard.edu Tue Mar 23 20:47:25 2010 Received: from elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net (elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net [209.86.89.70]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o2O0lPAW009490 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 20:47:25 -0400 Received: from [4.231.172.76] (helo=System4) by elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1NuEkm-0001Xe-M0 for uupoly-l@uupa.org; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 20:47:25 -0400 Message-ID: From: "CWLee" To: References: <220F75FAA5E9413F96D92001BA4AB203@System4> <218ed5c51003231655p1ec3fc0ey4605e7a09c90e6cd@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <218ed5c51003231655p1ec3fc0ey4605e7a09c90e6cd@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-ELNK-Trace: 7141e3bbddc8a6d4f1b7fbad2ae65da374bf435c0eb9d478b70b5649587b8254db57676175acdc7e591f942ae0d43823350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 4.231.172.76 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Slightly OT - An Interesting Triad X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 00:47:25 -0000 X-Original-Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 17:46:05 -0700 X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 00:47:25 -0000 "Cynthia Armistead" asked: > ... (I)s there a way to correspond > with the author? Near the bottom of the article on the website it says: "Stacy Morrison is the editor in chief of Redbook. Her memoir of divorce, "Falling Apart in One Piece," will be published this week by Simon & Schuster." So, one could write to her at Redbook Magazine, the address of which is probably easy to find via either Mr. Bing or Mr. Google. Let us know if you do that and have a meaningful response that you are free to share. Best regards, Chuck Lee. From nep425@gmail.com Tue Mar 23 21:48:21 2010 Received: from mail-bw0-f218.google.com (mail-bw0-f218.google.com [209.85.218.218]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o2O1mKHi013005 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 21:48:21 -0400 Received: by bwz10 with SMTP id 10so8251323bwz.2 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 18:48:18 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.136.208 with SMTP id s16mr2587818bkt.20.1269395298062; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 18:48:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: From: Nancy To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: [UUPoly-L] UU relocating X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 01:48:21 -0000 X-Original-Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 21:48:18 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 01:48:21 -0000 Hi, I am a UU relocating from NC to FL next month and wondered if any FL subscribers to this list could let me know of any congregations that are poly friendly or other poly groups in their area. Not sure yet where I will land because I am remaining flexible in case I find a house sitting situation, but am hoping for Miami, Ft. Myers, or Tampa Bay area. I've been very active in my current congregation and want to find a congregation to connect with once I am settled. Thanks! Nancy From fantine@sonic.net Thu Mar 25 14:37:15 2010 Received: from a.mail.sonic.net (a.mail.sonic.net [64.142.16.245]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o2PIa8JL014978 for ; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 14:37:15 -0400 Received: from FLOGGER3000 (75-101-18-7.dsl.static.sonic.net [75.101.18.7]) by a.mail.sonic.net (8.13.8.Beta0-Sonic/8.13.7) with ESMTP id o2PIa7eB001422 for ; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 11:36:08 -0700 From: "Fantine" To: Message-ID: <0BAA4B2B2E474E4DA8F67AEAF4F30D02@FLOGGER3000> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6856 Importance: Normal Thread-Index: AcrKr71zqfKoCAAuSFmV2uhKkC1ARgACpPmwAGJ2HyA= In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by msb.ernest-doss.org id o2PIa8JL014978 Subject: [UUPoly-L] Forming Chapter PLUS UUPA @ PCD DA X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 18:37:15 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 11:36:12 -0700 X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 18:37:15 -0000 Actually, we don't need to meet at DA or in person at all to form a chapter. Can I get at least two of you who are interested in a SF Bay Area (or other definition) chapter to send me email with your name, your congregation, and the rest of the contact info needed for the chapter application (www.uupa.org/chapters)? We can chat off list re the details of the application. But as for a face to face meeting - I propose a dinner meeting at the PCD DA (www.pcd-uua.org) in Fremont on Friday 4/30. Meet at 6 p.m. (the banner parade is at 8 p.m.) at the registration area at the Fremont Marriott. From there we can go to a local restaurant (which I would scope out before hand). If enough people respond to me, this will happen. If no one responds, no problem, we can meet some other time and place. Make me a counter-offer! 'Cesca UU San Mateo CA fantine@sonic.net p.s. my listing on the website has not been updated since my change of email. Someone please update!! From mnstrm@erosong.net Thu Mar 25 15:25:01 2010 Received: from mail-yx0-f183.google.com (mail-yx0-f183.google.com [209.85.210.183]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o2PJP06N017720 for ; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 15:25:01 -0400 Received: by yxe13 with SMTP id 13so6776672yxe.11 for ; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 12:24:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.143.26.19 with SMTP id d19mr4449538wfj.160.1269545097085; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 12:24:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from draco (c-98-247-39-6.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [98.247.39.6]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 22sm65184pzk.9.2010.03.25.12.24.56 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 25 Mar 2010 12:24:56 -0700 (PDT) From: "Moonstorm Erosong" To: Message-ID: <002401cacc50$d877f2b0$8967d810$@net> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcrMUNLMxXgl0i6USOWTsSm03MEOIw== Content-Language: en-us Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: [UUPoly-L] UU Polys at Poly Living Conference X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 19:25:01 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 12:24:52 -0700 X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 19:25:01 -0000 The other night at Seattle's monthly Poly Potluck someone gave a report on her experiences at the Poly Living Conference in Philadelphia a few weeks ago. I was extremely proud and gratified that so many of the presenters this lady found most memorable were members of our UUPA Board of Trustees. One after another the names came out-Mim Chapman, Anita Wagner, Kathleen Reedy, Dave Hall, Valerie White, Jasmine Walston. As so often in the past, UUs are leading our society on the path of progressive change. My fellow Board members, I am very proud of you all. Blessings, 'Storm From JasmineGld@aol.com Thu Mar 25 19:07:19 2010 Received: from imr-da06.mx.aol.com (imr-da06.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.203]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o2PN6DdF029909 for ; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 19:07:19 -0400 Received: from imo-ma04.mx.aol.com (imo-ma04.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.139]) by imr-da06.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o2PN65Gn008243 for ; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 19:06:05 -0400 Received: from JasmineGld@aol.com by imo-ma04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.9.) id g.d46.5c346e7c (43886) for ; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 19:06:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from magic-d17.mail.aol.com (magic-d17.mail.aol.com [172.19.155.133]) by cia-dc04.mx.aol.com (v127_r1.2) with ESMTP id MAILCIADC047-ab6e4babec5c87; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 19:06:04 -0400 From: JasmineGld@aol.com Message-ID: <80e1d.20a8c3b0.38dd465c@aol.com> To: uupoly-l@uupa.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5379 X-AOL-ORIG-IP: 74.130.8.252 X-AOL-IP: 172.19.155.133 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-AOL-SENDER: JasmineGld@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Forming Chapter PLUS UUPA @ PCD DA X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 23:07:19 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 19:06:04 EDT X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 23:07:19 -0000 In a message dated 3/25/2010 2:37:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, fantine@sonic.net writes: > p.s. my listing on the website has not been updated > since my change of email. Someone please update!! Done! If you are a local contact person or chapter contact person, please check the webpage to make sure your listing is up to date. Contact me offlist with any updates, Subject "UUPA website". _http://www.uupa.org/chapters_ (http://www.uupa.org/chapters) Jasmine From fantine@sonic.net Thu Mar 25 19:36:56 2010 Received: from b.mail.sonic.net (b.mail.sonic.net [64.142.19.5]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o2PNZn1A031808 for ; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 19:36:55 -0400 Received: from FLOGGER3000 (75-101-18-7.dsl.static.sonic.net [75.101.18.7]) by b.mail.sonic.net (8.13.8.Beta0-Sonic/8.13.7) with ESMTP id o2PNZmJ5030374 for ; Thu, 25 Mar 2010 16:35:48 -0700 From: "Fantine" To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6856 Importance: Normal Thread-Index: AcrMb/ZZgrwmHWn0QEST2qqDE1ZlfgAA+b+A In-Reply-To: <80e1d.20a8c3b0.38dd465c@aol.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by msb.ernest-doss.org id o2PNZn1A031808 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Forming Chapter PLUS UUPA @ PCD DA X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 23:36:56 -0000 X-Original-Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 16:35:53 -0700 X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 23:36:56 -0000 Thanks muchly! -----Original Message----- From: uupoly-l-bounces+fantine=sonic.net@uupa.org [mailto:uupoly-l-bounces+fantine=sonic.net@uupa.org] On Behalf Of JasmineGld@aol.com Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 4:06 PM To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Forming Chapter PLUS UUPA @ PCD DA In a message dated 3/25/2010 2:37:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, fantine@sonic.net writes: > p.s. my listing on the website has not been updated > since my change of email. Someone please update!! Done! If you are a local contact person or chapter contact person, please check the webpage to make sure your listing is up to date. Contact me offlist with any updates, Subject "UUPA website". _http://www.uupa.org/chapters_ (http://www.uupa.org/chapters) Jasmine _______________________________________________ The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. UUPoly-L mailing list UUPoly-L@uupa.org http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l From stargazngal@yahoo.com Sat Mar 27 17:51:58 2010 Received: from web45203.mail.sp1.yahoo.com (web45203.mail.sp1.yahoo.com [68.180.197.68]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id o2RLopMH024051 for ; Sat, 27 Mar 2010 17:51:58 -0400 Received: (qmail 59524 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Mar 2010 21:50:50 -0000 Message-ID: <886191.59182.qm@web45203.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: nnT1gE8VM1nQuhOy3PzQYSmdWKZZ4pNJsaSnMXuwYufgNaR LQyVorceFIE5Yfm1_4yt7MxLzO48ypsMIAuOOgoFR5vLIPybaxZYoFz6Eng7 gb4Z975w5QaskniFMjfIanWhbV.76BR8Xp63Q1H9X90iS9zUHjQoIQbFtn8S gXS_hqI.3roSVBrrTFOQYzVdGoysuBmxHBBW6FP7TNqgrh4jQW8MOFMA4HCA WWBpd6.A6aFOuJ0lJdqSOApSmroKeRRgoC5.fkUUbkMaldoKZkJGRksBt4Hr yGXvQi3VWtzgfuwxBSrb3Tg9llg-- Received: from [97.72.141.194] by web45203.mail.sp1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 27 Mar 2010 14:50:50 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/10.0.8 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 From: stargazngal To: uupoly-l@uupa.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: [UUPoly-L] Poly related article concerning Sandra Bullock and Mo'Nique's marriages X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 21:51:58 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 14:50:50 -0700 (PDT) X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 21:51:58 -0000 I had been meaning to post about the Barbara Walters Special I watched prio= r to the Oscar awards a few weeks back, but never got around to posting abo= ut it.=A0 Mo'Nique stated she was in an open marriage and sex with other pa= rtners was definately not a deal breaker in her marriage.=A0 Ironically the= only other person interviewed by Barbara was Sandra Bullock, who doesn't s= eem to be too happy about her hubby's "poly" ways.=A0 I use poly somewhat l= oosely, since Sandra doesn't appear to have been poly as well. =A0 I saw the following article on line and felt complelled to comment on it.= =A0=A0I think my comment is #109, and Jenny Block has since replied at #100= . =A0 http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b173301_what_sandra_bullocks_marriage_were_= more.html =A0 This is the first time I felt compelled to "defend" my lifestyle.=A0 Jenny = Block does a better job with her commentary than I, but it sure felt good t= o stand up and be counted as proud to be poly.=A0 :) =A0 Stargazngal=0A=0A=0A From desmondravenstone@yahoo.com Sat Mar 27 18:08:25 2010 Received: from web50508.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web50508.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.38.84]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id o2RM8PQ8025389 for ; Sat, 27 Mar 2010 18:08:25 -0400 Received: (qmail 28687 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Mar 2010 22:08:25 -0000 Message-ID: <541564.26905.qm@web50508.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: zqUwq8IVM1maXF_EcFFTN106JFd3gVE3TJh2U4fyfk1Ti85 zO7rKBQrGnkTErwL0JzbJHWz6waNuKpclhAEDMTqK8.QphRcTiXD7kzMbg_L yFf7vl5TLBYyxaqMJNoDFR2X7GxEz7djPIYTR7LbtrrG11A0VnllRu_RIy4Q suZ8Y6NEH8MWA1IkQXQqo99g5uap9PI3tnZ_QrR3t29KF5WlMYhq29wjLOQs 1k3DyUcJtIVMpZFshfyTjDyZvWgttKDA.tOKjtLtN1odlMJy2WKtb_n5Dmqc GcjgMTtMVdR46ao.dlgMz7kN0cSs- Received: from [72.60.59.186] by web50508.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 27 Mar 2010 15:08:25 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/10.0.8 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 From: Desmond Ravenstone To: uupoly-l@uupa.org In-Reply-To: <886191.59182.qm@web45203.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by msb.ernest-doss.org id o2RM8PQ8025389 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Poly related article concerning Sandra Bullock and Mo'Nique's marriages X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 22:08:25 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 15:08:25 -0700 (PDT) X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 22:08:25 -0000 We need to clarify the distinction between poly people and poly relationships. I may be poly (open to multiple relationships) but that doesn't mean all my relationships are poly. If I date a woman who is not comfortable with poly, then I need to respect that and keep my promise to her. Applying this to Jesse James and Sandra Bullock, and similar cases, if there is no prior agreement to be poly, then it doesn't matter if Jesse calls himself poly. Breaking a promise is wrong whether you identify as poly or monogamous. Desmond Ravenstone "What you call sin, I call the great spirit of love, which takes a thousand forms..." http://ravenstonesreflections.blogspot.com http://www.myspace.com/desmond_ravenstone --- On Sat, 3/27/10, stargazngal wrote: > From: stargazngal > Subject: [UUPoly-L] Poly related article concerning Sandra Bullock and Mo'Nique's marriages > To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 5:50 PM > I had been meaning to post about the > Barbara Walters Special I watched prior to the Oscar awards > a few weeks back, but never got around to posting about > it.  Mo'Nique stated she was in an open marriage and sex > with other partners was definately not a deal breaker in her > marriage.  Ironically the only other person interviewed by > Barbara was Sandra Bullock, who doesn't seem to be too happy > about her hubby's "poly" ways.  I use poly somewhat > loosely, since Sandra doesn't appear to have been poly as > well. >   > I saw the following article on line and felt complelled to > comment on it.  I think my comment is #109, and Jenny > Block has since replied at #100. >   > http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b173301_what_sandra_bullocks_marriage_were_more.html >   > This is the first time I felt compelled to "defend" my > lifestyle.  Jenny Block does a better job with her > commentary than I, but it sure felt good to stand up and be > counted as proud to be poly.  :) >   > Stargazngal > > >       > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal > about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > From JasmineGld@aol.com Sat Mar 27 18:37:52 2010 Received: from imr-db03.mx.aol.com (imr-db03.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.97]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o2RMaj6G027324 for ; Sat, 27 Mar 2010 18:37:52 -0400 Received: from imo-ma04.mx.aol.com (imo-ma04.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.139]) by imr-db03.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o2RMaj6M024580 for ; Sat, 27 Mar 2010 18:36:45 -0400 Received: from JasmineGld@aol.com by imo-ma04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.9.) id g.ca8.57103ae3 (43977) for ; Sat, 27 Mar 2010 18:36:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from magic-m23.mail.aol.com (magic-m23.mail.aol.com [172.20.22.196]) by cia-dd04.mx.aol.com (v127_r1.2) with ESMTP id MAILCIADD042-abc94bae887b330; Sat, 27 Mar 2010 18:36:43 -0400 From: JasmineGld@aol.com Message-ID: To: uupoly-l@uupa.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5379 X-AOL-ORIG-IP: 74.130.8.252 X-AOL-IP: 172.20.22.196 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-AOL-SENDER: JasmineGld@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Poly related article concerning Sandra Bullock and Mo'Nique's ... X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 22:37:52 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 18:36:43 EDT X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 22:37:52 -0000 > it sure felt good to stand up and be counted as proud to be poly. :) Stargazngal, I just read your comment, and you did great. Thanks for speaking up. Jasmine From stacey.nj@gmail.com Sat Mar 27 18:40:40 2010 Received: from mail-gx0-f226.google.com (mail-gx0-f226.google.com [209.85.217.226]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o2RMee42028013 for ; Sat, 27 Mar 2010 18:40:40 -0400 Received: by gxk26 with SMTP id 26so345590gxk.17 for ; Sat, 27 Mar 2010 15:40:37 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.159.133 with HTTP; Sat, 27 Mar 2010 15:40:36 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <886191.59182.qm@web45203.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <886191.59182.qm@web45203.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Received: by 10.101.129.13 with SMTP id g13mr4842038ann.30.1269729636823; Sat, 27 Mar 2010 15:40:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <986f041003271540k71165ebfm21f94284fc636a65@mail.gmail.com> From: Stacey Greenstein To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Poly related article concerning Sandra Bullock and Mo'Nique's marriages X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 22:40:40 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 18:40:36 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 22:40:40 -0000 Jenny Block is #110. I believe I'm #114. On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 5:50 PM, stargazngal wrote: > I had been meaning to post about the Barbara Walters Special I watched > prior to the Oscar awards a few weeks back, but never got around to posting > about it. Mo'Nique stated she was in an open marriage and sex with other > partners was definately not a deal breaker in her marriage. Ironically the > only other person interviewed by Barbara was Sandra Bullock, who doesn't > seem to be too happy about her hubby's "poly" ways. I use poly somewhat > loosely, since Sandra doesn't appear to have been poly as well. > > I saw the following article on line and felt complelled to comment on > it. I think my comment is #109, and Jenny Block has since replied at #100. > > > http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b173301_what_sandra_bullocks_marriage_were_more.html > > This is the first time I felt compelled to "defend" my lifestyle. Jenny > Block does a better job with her commentary than I, but it sure felt good to > stand up and be counted as proud to be poly. :) > > Stargazngal > > > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > -- a guy named Stacey From stacey.nj@gmail.com Sat Mar 27 18:44:08 2010 Received: from mail-iw0-f203.google.com (mail-iw0-f203.google.com [209.85.223.203]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o2RMi83Z028652 for ; Sat, 27 Mar 2010 18:44:08 -0400 Received: by iwn41 with SMTP id 41so688725iwn.20 for ; Sat, 27 Mar 2010 15:44:08 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.159.133 with HTTP; Sat, 27 Mar 2010 15:44:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <541564.26905.qm@web50508.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <886191.59182.qm@web45203.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <541564.26905.qm@web50508.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Received: by 10.231.146.144 with SMTP id h16mr1474558ibv.18.1269729847898; Sat, 27 Mar 2010 15:44:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <986f041003271544h150f3fbfm40186bf9b8f6a72f@mail.gmail.com> From: Stacey Greenstein To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Poly related article concerning Sandra Bullock and Mo'Nique's marriages X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 22:44:08 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 18:44:07 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 22:44:08 -0000 I would differ that a poly person dating a mono person doesn't have to have a mono relationship, as long as the mono person accepts and agrees. There are some poly/mono relationships out there; some are monogamous, some are not. Depends on what the two people can come to terms on in the relationship. I do think that poly/mono is harder than mono/mono and poly/poly. But in all cases, I agree that breaking a promise is breaking a promise. On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 6:08 PM, Desmond Ravenstone < desmondravenstone@yahoo.com> wrote: > We need to clarify the distinction between poly people and poly > relationships. I may be poly (open to multiple relationships) but that > doesn't mean all my relationships are poly. If I date a woman who is not > comfortable with poly, then I need to respect that and keep my promise to > her. > > Applying this to Jesse James and Sandra Bullock, and similar cases, if > there is no prior agreement to be poly, then it doesn't matter if Jesse > calls himself poly. Breaking a promise is wrong whether you identify as > poly or monogamous. > > Desmond Ravenstone > > "What you call sin, I call the great spirit of love, which takes a thousand > forms..." > > http://ravenstonesreflections.blogspot.com > http://www.myspace.com/desmond_ravenstone > > > --- On Sat, 3/27/10, stargazngal wrote: > > > From: stargazngal > > Subject: [UUPoly-L] Poly related article concerning Sandra Bullock and > Mo'Nique's marriages > > To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > > Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 5:50 PM > > I had been meaning to post about the > > Barbara Walters Special I watched prior to the Oscar awards > > a few weeks back, but never got around to posting about > > it. Mo'Nique stated she was in an open marriage and sex > > with other partners was definately not a deal breaker in her > > marriage. Ironically the only other person interviewed by > > Barbara was Sandra Bullock, who doesn't seem to be too happy > > about her hubby's "poly" ways. I use poly somewhat > > loosely, since Sandra doesn't appear to have been poly as > > well. > > > > I saw the following article on line and felt complelled to > > comment on it. I think my comment is #109, and Jenny > > Block has since replied at #100. > > > > > http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b173301_what_sandra_bullocks_marriage_were_more.html > > > > This is the first time I felt compelled to "defend" my > > lifestyle. Jenny Block does a better job with her > > commentary than I, but it sure felt good to stand up and be > > counted as proud to be poly. :) > > > > Stargazngal > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal > > about yourself. > > UUPoly-L mailing list > > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > -- a guy named Stacey From aine.maire@gmail.com Sat Mar 27 19:17:59 2010 Received: from mail-iw0-f203.google.com (mail-iw0-f203.google.com [209.85.223.203]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o2RNHxp5031389 for ; Sat, 27 Mar 2010 19:17:59 -0400 Received: by iwn41 with SMTP id 41so701870iwn.20 for ; Sat, 27 Mar 2010 16:17:54 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.143.149 with HTTP; Sat, 27 Mar 2010 16:17:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <986f041003271544h150f3fbfm40186bf9b8f6a72f@mail.gmail.com> References: <886191.59182.qm@web45203.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <541564.26905.qm@web50508.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <986f041003271544h150f3fbfm40186bf9b8f6a72f@mail.gmail.com> From: aine.maire@gmail.com Received: by 10.231.161.132 with SMTP id r4mr1470655ibx.48.1269731874159; Sat, 27 Mar 2010 16:17:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <80de162a1003271617t51246bf0keada032c45c431e2@mail.gmail.com> To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Poly related article concerning Sandra Bullock and Mo'Nique's marriages X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 23:17:59 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 19:17:34 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 23:17:59 -0000 I'm comment number 115 on that article. Now that my boyfriend has gone out on his date with his "other significant other," it's time for me to get ready to go bowling with my local poly group! Life is very good! Annie:) From JasmineGld@aol.com Sat Mar 27 19:41:19 2010 Received: from imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (imr-ma04.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.42]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o2RNeDhg000431 for ; Sat, 27 Mar 2010 19:41:19 -0400 Received: from imo-ma03.mx.aol.com (imo-ma03.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.138]) by imr-ma04.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o2RNe5Y1018222 for ; Sat, 27 Mar 2010 19:40:05 -0400 Received: from JasmineGld@aol.com by imo-ma03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.9.) id g.bd9.4c2cb921 (37057) for ; Sat, 27 Mar 2010 19:40:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from magic-m23.mail.aol.com (magic-m23.mail.aol.com [172.20.22.196]) by cia-db04.mx.aol.com (v127_r1.2) with ESMTP id MAILCIADB043-90c14bae97532e2; Sat, 27 Mar 2010 19:40:03 -0400 From: JasmineGld@aol.com Message-ID: To: uupoly-l@uupa.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5379 X-AOL-ORIG-IP: 74.130.8.252 X-AOL-IP: 172.20.22.196 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-AOL-SENDER: JasmineGld@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Poly related article concerning Sandra Bullock and Mo'Nique's ... X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 23:41:19 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 19:40:03 EDT X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 23:41:19 -0000 In a message dated 3/27/2010 6:40:47 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, stacey.nj@gmail.com writes: > I believe I'm #114 I just responded to you, Jasmine From stacey.nj@gmail.com Sat Mar 27 23:20:03 2010 Received: from mail-gx0-f226.google.com (mail-gx0-f226.google.com [209.85.217.226]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o2S3K27F012034 for ; Sat, 27 Mar 2010 23:20:03 -0400 Received: by gxk26 with SMTP id 26so415430gxk.17 for ; Sat, 27 Mar 2010 20:20:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.159.133 with HTTP; Sat, 27 Mar 2010 20:19:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Received: by 10.151.88.2 with SMTP id q2mr3279820ybl.75.1269746400024; Sat, 27 Mar 2010 20:20:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <986f041003272019r2aaba64dmb1bdee0f67aeebb6@mail.gmail.com> From: Stacey Greenstein To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Poly related article concerning Sandra Bullock and Mo'Nique's ... X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 03:20:03 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 23:19:59 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 03:20:03 -0000 I saw. :) I wanted to say more, but the character limitation left me short, so I wrote it as I did... and especially since all the God-talk on the forum was so negative. I admit, though, that I hadn't read all 100+ comments. I figured you'd do well and come back with some positive God-talk. :) I prefer that not one of us has *the* answer. We're all different and have different answers. On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 7:40 PM, wrote: > > In a message dated 3/27/2010 6:40:47 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > stacey.nj@gmail.com writes: > > > I believe I'm #114 > > I just responded to you, > > Jasmine > > > > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > -- a guy named Stacey From anthony.roza@gmail.com Sun Mar 28 08:18:10 2010 Received: from mail-ww0-f47.google.com (mail-ww0-f47.google.com [74.125.82.47]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o2SCIAuY018530 for ; Sun, 28 Mar 2010 08:18:10 -0400 Received: by wwb13 with SMTP id 13so1345559wwb.20 for ; Sun, 28 Mar 2010 05:18:09 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.23.2 with HTTP; Sun, 28 Mar 2010 05:18:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <986f041003271544h150f3fbfm40186bf9b8f6a72f@mail.gmail.com> References: <886191.59182.qm@web45203.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <541564.26905.qm@web50508.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <986f041003271544h150f3fbfm40186bf9b8f6a72f@mail.gmail.com> Received: by 10.216.171.7 with SMTP id q7mr2172410wel.40.1269778689275; Sun, 28 Mar 2010 05:18:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5aaa462a1003280518x7a034ddav2648b45bbe299a0c@mail.gmail.com> From: Roza Anthony To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Poly related article concerning Sandra Bullock and Mo'Nique's marriages X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 12:18:10 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 08:18:09 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 12:18:10 -0000 I agree with Stacey that poly/mono can be much harder, but that doesn't mean impossible. When I asked my boyfriend out, I made it very clear that I already had a partner, there was no way I was going to choose the new relationship over the old relationship, and that my partner was aware that I was going to ask the new person out, and had actively encouraged this. The man I asked out had never been in a poly relationship before, and had only seen relationships that I would not characterized as poly, and he had a lot of questions and concerns that he wanted to clear up before he was ready to commit to the relationship. Six months later, he's still mono, my other partner and I are still poly, and the only two things my boyfriend wants to change about the relationship right now is that he wishes I could spend more nights with him -- which is hard becuase of work -- and he wants to spend more time with the three of us together. Life is good! Roza On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 6:44 PM, Stacey Greenstein wrote: > I would differ that a poly person dating a mono person doesn't have to have > a mono relationship, as long as the mono person accepts and agrees. There > are some poly/mono relationships out there; some are monogamous, some are > not. Depends on what the two people can come to terms on in the > relationship. I do think that poly/mono is harder than mono/mono and > poly/poly. From valerie@valeriewhite.org Sun Mar 28 21:04:20 2010 Received: from cosmos.phy.tufts.edu (cosmos.phy.tufts.edu [130.64.83.16]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o2T13ENl029778 for ; Sun, 28 Mar 2010 21:04:20 -0400 Received: from p92-11.acedsl.com ([66.114.92.11]:51881 helo=neptune.place.org) by cosmos.phy.tufts.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Nw3Np-0003i4-OB for uupoly-l@uupa.org; Sun, 28 Mar 2010 21:03:13 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.247] (port=4131 helo=VW.valeriewhite.org) by neptune.place.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nw3Np-0004qn-CT for uupoly-l@uupa.org; Sun, 28 Mar 2010 21:03:13 -0400 Message-Id: <7.0.1.0.2.20100328210039.05999dd0@valeriewhite.org> X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.0.1.0 To: uupoly-l@uupa.org From: Valerie White Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Subject: [UUPoly-L] California kink-savvy lawyer please X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 01:04:20 -0000 X-Original-Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 21:01:50 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 01:04:20 -0000 SFLDEF has had a request for a lawyer to handle a case involving BDSM in California . . . anybody know any kink-friendly attorneys out there? Valerie White Executive Director Sexual Freedom Legal Defense and Education Fund, Inc. www.sfldef.org From riversol@yahoo.com Mon Mar 29 13:41:09 2010 Received: from smtp108.plus.mail.re1.yahoo.com (smtp108.plus.mail.re1.yahoo.com [69.147.102.71]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id o2THe2Vb022218 for ; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 13:41:08 -0400 Received: (qmail 87209 invoked from network); 29 Mar 2010 17:40:02 -0000 Received: from pool-96-245-42-208.phlapa.fios.verizon.net (riversol@96.245.42.208 with plain) by smtp108.plus.mail.re1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 29 Mar 2010 10:40:01 -0700 PDT X-Yahoo-SMTP: H6tyDMqswBANwXmrLFhff96tYZZQ X-YMail-OSG: xCwGSCcVM1nfblCJMiUj.csclwYnCUMsBin5wo9MxhcE1YS1eegGxNMD8kR.uBeXXEG48hPZ0Ka2Cx0Syo2nbk1fbYom1ex5FC3WVzRXxuEfuQaVy5QbdqwOjmyesDqf3xsXx2NiyQdSCRA3KI2bsDmNknii.DonkvNck_8wWp.Au57zpKSJvhtq.YUQJrTMB3r.LOWYTl8i3lV7UGE11YQleioHn97SnRpUfY8uW_AkVsn71eTMdZA4Z5YcZIuHjZ3AS6kN7U3w9UgumV15j.JWIJVhuOFTpP.d2vKFYNbOshEUz85qUq1I7zwzoZT5Hqfoq9pHRgPzM4JaOibb4TX7KlAVcjQH.J18wCXBvKVxLmcM.ST8muV864Rb4DnczlHHcHl8Q2yjO..4Wc5QINPQGNyO628.EhKOsCrhYdueNpeRJ07o2xxYrBq21_voF5M4yooM8HnTYvc- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <4BB0E5F5.9050602@yahoo.com> From: Brian User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Lightning/1.0b1 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: uupoly-l@uupa.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: [UUPoly-L] unsubscribe X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 17:41:18 -0000 X-Original-Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 13:40:05 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 17:41:18 -0000 unsubscribe */Brian/* On 3/29/2010 12:00 PM, uupoly-l-request@uupa.org wrote: > Send UUPoly-L mailing list submissions to > uupoly-l@uupa.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > uupoly-l-request@uupa.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > uupoly-l-owner@uupa.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of UUPoly-L digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. 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Mon, 29 Mar 2010 16:51:06 -0400 Received: (qmail 98741 invoked by uid 60001); 29 Mar 2010 20:50:00 -0000 Message-ID: <79236.98694.qm@web55601.mail.re4.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: VDiDfgkVM1l9C5BEPmssRw7iJws9BT_yh0Us._DbsJao.Xx 7twKBhKpwDNjmC203TiQBHMwx3MyLCOz_sDKNEeMEm2O.bu3XRx6wBtni4ay PZApjdWCI.hRI0HKGPY6NXMqlpL_WwJGpOUpuhc1_U9PRGb2hitakAjn8JjI 1gxtQWcc3FOzcAZIvYJUVpzII_dRyDV.9yAk6LQOd0oWofrXI8ZbE7Qhewj1 rfItU0Xkr_7V2Ph0XzOxBX_sie9MxHfSBNv8o6BjXpHCN4vviux7LCskJ31h AQN.VpF9rh7j57KzAs3uNCS9ZK2c2cl8j.Obl9WXJch7tZa_D00hCUEi9Aqs eJBH4DfciXfdIgUurihom448f Received: from [72.165.84.207] by web55601.mail.re4.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 13:49:59 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/10.0.8 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 From: Kathleen Reedy To: uupoly-l@uupa.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] UUPoly-L Digest, Vol 66, Issue 15 X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 20:51:07 -0000 X-Original-Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 13:49:59 -0700 (PDT) X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 20:51:07 -0000 Valerie I know of one, background as an EMT or Paramedic, now a lawyer, and kinky.= =A0 He is often called upon to testify in BDSM cases as an expert witness, = not sure if he is a defense attorney.=A0 He also speaks and teaches negotia= ting sexual behaviors, sexual safety (in bondage and other bdsm) as well as= first aid and CPR.=A0 Name is Jay Wiseman, San Francisco, CA, and though i= n the foreward of his books, he asks for feedback, I've searched and don't = find a contact.=A0 I can get contact information from a friend if you like.= =20 Kathleen --- On Mon, 3/29/10, uupoly-l-request@uupa.org = wrote: From: uupoly-l-request@uupa.org Subject: UUPoly-L Digest, Vol 66, Issue 15 To: uupoly-l@uupa.org Date: Monday, March 29, 2010, 12:00 PM Send UUPoly-L mailing list submissions to =A0=A0=A0 uupoly-l@uupa.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit =A0=A0=A0 http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to =A0=A0=A0 uupoly-l-request@uupa.org You can reach the person managing the list at =A0=A0=A0 uupoly-l-owner@uupa.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of UUPoly-L digest..." Today's Topics: =A0=A0=A01. California kink-savvy lawyer please (Valerie White) _______________________________________________ The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. UUPoly-L mailing list UUPoly-L@uupa.org http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l =0A=0A=0A From earthfather@cfnc.us Mon Mar 29 17:15:50 2010 Received: from vms173003pub.verizon.net (vms173003pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.3]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o2TLEiiV003743 for ; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 17:15:50 -0400 Received: from MVRLENOVO2008 ([unknown] [173.79.126.150]) by vms173003.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0L0200K97AZ4ICB5@vms173003.mailsrvcs.net> for uupoly-l@uupa.org; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 16:13:52 -0500 (CDT) From: "Michael Rios" To: References: <79236.98694.qm@web55601.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Message-id: <3FA928DE92254F3499FCC18909A7D765@MVRLENOVO2008> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-reply-to: <79236.98694.qm@web55601.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Thread-index: AcrPgZwXHNQGRwp1RSGVkrbHSr7NZQAAveJg X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by msb.ernest-doss.org id o2TLEiiV003743 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] UUPoly-L Digest, Vol 66, Issue 15 X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 21:15:50 -0000 X-Original-Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 17:13:53 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 21:15:50 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: uupoly-l-bounces+earthfather=cfnc.us@uupa.org [mailto:uupoly-l- > bounces+earthfather=cfnc.us@uupa.org] On Behalf Of Kathleen Reedy > Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 4:50 PM > To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] UUPoly-L Digest, Vol 66, Issue 15 > > Valerie > I know of one, background as an EMT or Paramedic, now a lawyer, and > kinky.  He is often called upon to testify in BDSM cases as an expert > witness, not sure if he is a defense attorney.  He also speaks and teaches > negotiating sexual behaviors, sexual safety (in bondage and other bdsm) as > well as first aid and CPR.  Name is Jay Wiseman, San Francisco, CA, and > though in the foreward of his books, he asks for feedback, I've searched > and don't find a contact.  I can get contact information from a friend if > you like. > Kathleen > > --- On Mon, 3/29/10, uupoly-l-request@uupa.org > wrote: > > > From: uupoly-l-request@uupa.org > Subject: UUPoly-L Digest, Vol 66, Issue 15 > To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > Date: Monday, March 29, 2010, 12:00 PM > > > Send UUPoly-L mailing list submissions to >     uupoly-l@uupa.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >     http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >     uupoly-l-request@uupa.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at >     uupoly-l-owner@uupa.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of UUPoly-L digest..." > > Today's Topics: > >    1. California kink-savvy lawyer please (Valerie White) > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l > > > > > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l From earthfather@cfnc.us Mon Mar 29 17:17:30 2010 Received: from vms173019pub.verizon.net (vms173019pub.verizon.net [206.46.173.19]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o2TLGN4w004349 for ; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 17:17:30 -0400 Received: from MVRLENOVO2008 ([unknown] [173.79.126.150]) by vms173019.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java(tm) System Messaging Server 7u2-7.02 32bit (built Apr 16 2009)) with ESMTPA id <0L0200J8BB1WWUW1@vms173019.mailsrvcs.net> for uupoly-l@uupa.org; Mon, 29 Mar 2010 16:15:38 -0500 (CDT) From: "Michael Rios" To: References: <79236.98694.qm@web55601.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Message-id: <4B5F96704BA64661A857949DA6ECE49D@MVRLENOVO2008> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-reply-to: <79236.98694.qm@web55601.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Thread-index: AcrPgZwXHNQGRwp1RSGVkrbHSr7NZQAAyNCA X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by msb.ernest-doss.org id o2TLGN4w004349 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] UUPoly-L Digest, Vol 66, Issue 15 X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 21:17:30 -0000 X-Original-Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 17:15:33 -0400 X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 21:17:30 -0000 (Sorry for firing a blank a few minutes ago...) > -----Original Message----- > From: Kathleen Reedy > Valerie > I know of one, background as an EMT or Paramedic, now a lawyer, and > kinky.  He is often called upon to testify in BDSM cases as an expert > witness, not sure if he is a defense attorney.  He also speaks and teaches > negotiating sexual behaviors, sexual safety (in bondage and other bdsm) as > well as first aid and CPR.  Name is Jay Wiseman, San Francisco, CA, and > though in the foreward of his books, he asks for feedback, I've searched > and don't find a contact.  I can get contact information from a friend if > you like. Here is his website: http://www.jaywiseman.com/ And his email address: jaywiseman@yahoo.com Michael Rios From AnnSchranz@aol.com Wed Mar 31 19:03:34 2010 Received: from imr-ma03.mx.aol.com (imr-ma03.mx.aol.com [64.12.206.41]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id o2VN30Lr007882 for ; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 19:03:34 -0400 Received: from imo-da04.mx.aol.com (imo-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.202]) by imr-ma03.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o2VN2uUE029805 for ; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 19:02:56 -0400 Received: from AnnSchranz@aol.com by imo-da04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.9.) id g.c35.774a8f0c (37055) for ; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 19:02:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from magic-m23.mail.aol.com (magic-m23.mail.aol.com [172.20.22.196]) by cia-db04.mx.aol.com (v127_r1.2) with ESMTP id MAILCIADB041-90bf4bb3d49aa1; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 19:02:50 -0400 From: AnnSchranz@aol.com Message-ID: <7b0d4.6dd4a667.38e52e9a@aol.com> To: uupoly-l@uupa.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: AOL 9.1 sub 5009 X-AOL-ORIG-IP: 173.67.102.142 X-AOL-IP: 172.20.22.196 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-AOL-SENDER: AnnSchranz@aol.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.8 Subject: [UUPoly-L] Update on Fellowship status and Alternatives to Marriage Project X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 23:03:35 -0000 X-Original-Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 19:02:50 EDT X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 23:03:35 -0000 Hi, everyone. This is a quick note to say that I have been awarded Final Fellowship status by the Ministerial Fellowship Committee (MFC) of the Unitarian Universalist Association of congregations. I will be recognized at General Assembly at the end of June in Minneapolis. The award was bittersweet, however. I opened the MFC's letter on Monday, two hours after having returned from the hospital where my dear friend Fred had just died. He would have been 83 years old in June. I lived with Fred in Anaheim during my internship in 2004 - 2005. And so life goes, with a little of everything. Also, new since I last checked in, I was elected to the Board of Directors of the Alternatives to Marriage Project (_www.unmarried.org_ (http://www.unmarried.org) ). When people ask me what the Alternatives to Marriage Project is all about, I often say that AtMP has two main messages: 1) Single people are people, too. 2) There are many ways to have integrity in caring, loving relationships. I encourage UUPoly list subscribers to check out the Alternatives to Marriage Project, if you have not already done so. Ann From desmondravenstone@yahoo.com Wed Mar 31 20:30:52 2010 Received: from web50508.mail.re2.yahoo.com (web50508.mail.re2.yahoo.com [206.190.38.84]) by msb.ernest-doss.org (8.12.11/8.12.11) with SMTP id o310UqQO012826 for ; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 20:30:52 -0400 Received: (qmail 85750 invoked by uid 60001); 1 Apr 2010 00:30:51 -0000 Message-ID: <683207.84173.qm@web50508.mail.re2.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: GNTam5EVM1mYr5F75oI9j9ZU.0ZA4Isv.1mgv76qLHTh1bF XfoKn0uyPnrBXKowEZgT4gRExpZYMXC55rjZKo4JT4myiEBdVUIiGoYpJXNs i335d0JakAB8ZvWmBxFxjgAY87CTtPQiUM9aQIx.JxJGWNFIIzRiKTCus8dv Q4ZZzgdc2YajP_IvkZ8kn_6wb.vMCaLheNmZZ4mp8ZI_6HEpTBbMwCu..DfS cdmkKs7iL_N0qF17n3Q3xpvVcD_GEdlMEgMh9HQ9HIt3XetgJjezzDbBlEvE - Received: from [72.63.152.50] by web50508.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 31 Mar 2010 17:30:51 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/10.0.8 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 From: Desmond Ravenstone To: uupoly-l@uupa.org In-Reply-To: <7b0d4.6dd4a667.38e52e9a@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by msb.ernest-doss.org id o310UqQO012826 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Update on Fellowship status and Alternatives to Marriage Project X-BeenThere: uupoly-l@uupa.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.8 Precedence: list Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 00:30:52 -0000 X-Original-Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 17:30:51 -0700 (PDT) X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 00:30:52 -0000 Congrats and condolences to you, Ann. Keep us posted as you go on your journey in ministry. Desmond Ravenstone "What you call sin, I call the great spirit of love, which takes a thousand forms..." http://ravenstonesreflections.blogspot.com http://www.myspace.com/desmond_ravenstone --- On Wed, 3/31/10, AnnSchranz@aol.com wrote: > From: AnnSchranz@aol.com > Subject: [UUPoly-L] Update on Fellowship status and Alternatives to Marriage Project > To: uupoly-l@uupa.org > Date: Wednesday, March 31, 2010, 7:02 PM > Hi, everyone.   This > is a quick note to say that I have been  awarded Final > > Fellowship status by the Ministerial Fellowship Committee > (MFC) of  the > Unitarian Universalist Association of congregations.  > I will be  recognized at > General Assembly at the end of June in > Minneapolis.    > > The award was bittersweet, however.  I opened the > MFC's letter on  Monday, > two hours after having returned from the hospital where my > dear friend  Fred > had just died.  He would have been 83 years old in > June.  I  lived with > Fred in Anaheim during my internship in 2004 - 2005.  > And so  life goes, with a > little of everything. > > Also, new since I last checked in, I was elected to the > Board of Directors  > of the Alternatives to Marriage Project > (_www.unmarried.org_ > (http://www.unmarried.org) ).  When people ask > me  what the Alternatives to Marriage > Project is all about, I often say that  AtMP has two > main messages:  > > 1) Single people are people, too. > > 2) There are many ways to have integrity in caring, > loving  relationships.  > > I encourage UUPoly list subscribers to check out the > Alternatives to  > Marriage Project, if you have not already done so. > > Ann > _______________________________________________ > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives. > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal > about yourself. > UUPoly-L mailing list > UUPoly-L@uupa.org > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l >