Re: [UUPoly-L] UUCA: welcoming congregation

["Timothy McKee" <mknd17@hotmail.com>]

Many of the problems regarding acceptance/rejection of the poly lifestyle 
may be partly due to the fact that poly is not presented in a way that is 
acceptable to any given individual or UU entity.

What is acceptable in a blue state environment may be totally unacceptable 
in a red state environment. Obviously it is not quite that simple, but 
unfortunately much of the bad publicity is well deserved, partly due to the 
fact that many due not realize that polyamory is more of an esoteric postion 
about human relationships rather than an exoteric one. All of this 
self-serving bloviating with exoteric fourth estate folks certainly has not 
helped.

I have recently presented polyamory to someone in some private 
correspondence with a follow up quote taken from a book by Jimmy Carter's 
sister, Ruth Carter Stapleton. In that book one could posit the notion, 
which I back-handedly did, that polyamory grew out of the Crowleyian notion 
of thelema and agape, which goes back millenia.

There is a wonderful disquisition on the source of STRANGER IN A STRANGE 
LAND at a website called something like grokking tribe.net.

Incidentally, Ruth Carter Stapleton played the agape card, which does not 
have quite the perjorative connotations that the word polyamory does. 
Unfortunately there is very little amory within the polyamory community, 
there is too much emphasis on cookie&nookie, sad to say.

I will second the notion regarding Hollywood, Florida.  One woman there was 
on UUPOLY for several years, but eventually got bored with all the 
cookie&nookie emphasis.

Tim

P.S. Anyone that wants to mail me one dollar will get a photocophy of RCS's 
position on agape. I will do what I can to keep in reasonable conformance 
with any copyright restrictions.




From:  Mr Y <ystradyfodwg@yahoo.com>
Reply-To:  uupoly-l@uupa.org
To:  uupoly-l@uupa.org
Subject:  Re: [UUPoly-L] UUCA: welcoming congregation
Date:  Fri, 24 Nov 2006 07:43:41 -0800 (PST)
> I, for one, was disappointed in the "Welcoming Congregation" label (and it 
> is,
>   IMNSHO, just a label) the UUCFL uses... When I and my SO opened up to
>   a few of the members we thought might be "tolerant" (themselves being 
> gay couples)
>   we received a terse rebuke for our poly lifestyle - and - at one time 
> the minister
>   told me face-to-face that poly was just an excuse to have free sex 
> outside of marriage.
>   So if I am a little biased when it comes to the UUA label of 
> congregations being
>   welcoming it is due to my first hand and repeated experiences.
>
>   (In all fairness I visited another UU fellowship in Hollywood, FL and 
> they were the
>   most welcoming, accepting, and friendly group I encountered outside of 
> the Mission
>   Peak congregation in California...)
>
>   MrY
>
> "Fehd, Ronald J. (CDC/CCHIS/NCPHI)" <rjf2@cdc.gov> wrote:
>   well, well, well!
>
> indeed! so many old friends I recognize here! I'm pleased. :-)
>
> in answer to Cat's Q: my partner is UU
>
> and I've been attending DC's River Road w/her during our 6-yr LDR.
>
> I'm a friend of UUCA (Atlanta), where I have been attending sporadically 
> for the past 5 years.
>
>
>
> hm, ok, for a UU topic:
>
> what's y'all's experience as to how various congregations
>
> support their welcoming congretation idea.
>
>
>
> i.e.: when I walk in the door how do I know this is a welcoming 
> congregation?
>
>
>
> I attended a UUCA reforming meeting of their GLBTQ group
>
> and when I introduced myself as poly got a "What's that?" Q.
>
> there was at least another Q attending
>
> -- tho I didn't pick up on which type of Q --
>
> other than tatooed and pierced.
>
>
>
> Anyway, one of the mothers was a Pflag facilitator
>
> http://www.pflag.org/
>
> and in private conversation wondered if I would be interested in 
> certification.
>
>
>
> personally I'm interested in being a facilitator as my UU community 
> contribution
>
> tho I might better fit in as a new person in the Covenant Group.
>
>
>
> thanx again for the various welcomes
>
> Ron beaming :-) in Atlanta
>
>
>
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