[UUPoly-L] Stirring the cultural cauldron

[jay m <marcus_t_cicero@hotmail.com>]

Hi everyone,
 
Well, I definitely intended to stir the pot and enjoyed reading all of the replies.  I can't reply to all of the points posed but appreciate all of the excellent references and fine points. 
 
However, I felt that Brigitte wrote an ad hominem attack directed at yours truly, which was neither appreciated nor well-written for that matter. Full sentences, please. 
 
I know that people can become really tough and acrid when cloaked through the internet but please let's keep the conversation positive, such as David, Truckee, Keith and Valerie did with their posting. Disagreements are fine, but let's stay civil in our dialogue. 
 
Quickly, a few further points. 
 
My only intent was to point out that porn and polyamory are not correlated and that was the gist of the previous post. Also, whether you like it or not, pornography debased and objectifies women. Cosmopolitan and Glamour, along with a great deal of TV, are simply Playboy and Hustler dressed to look like a pig. 
 
Regarding societies that have a very lax attitude towards sex, porn and nudity on TV, you will also see that they have the lowest birth rates of any nation in the world. Now why would that be? Maybe because the men have a notion of women as looking like they do in the adult films, magazines, video games and when faced with the daunting task of actually meeting women, not only are they disappointed to see that women actually have flaws and slight imperfections but thanks to the internet and porn, they don't need them. 
 
Recently, on NPR, there was a show where they told of young boys who should be meeting girls, or guys for some, but are instead drifting deeper into cyberspace where they can see all of the porn they can visually handle, have cyber relationships with girls and download all of the pics they needed for off-line use (read masturbation). So, not only are they socially withdrawn but even if they saw a pretty girl or women, they will not know how to approach them and thanks to the internet and when they are older, hos, don't need them.
 
Take care and I will write more when able.
 
Again, good points and I cede several points to Valerie's post. Thank you for that thoughtful reply. 
 
P.S. The proliferation of porn didn't really start until Hugh Hefner and the Internet and so I am not sure what that has to do with Brigitte's point about prostitition in the past. Again, when writing, have a point, it makes it much more interesting to the other readers.
 
 
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