Re: [UUPoly-L] more on the porn/erotica thread

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On 12/19/07, Beverly Toll <btoll@hughes.net> wrote:
>
> I'd also love to read your book.  Thanks for your excellent letter.
>
> Beverly
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kathleen Reedy" <icescience@yahoo.com>
> To: <uupoly-l@uupa.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 9:36 AM
> Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] more on the porn/erotica thread
>
>
> > Valerie
> >   I'd love to read your book!  Good rant.
> >   Kathleen
> >
> > Valerie White <valerie@valeriewhite.org> wrote:
> >   While I was a consulting editor to "The Humanist" magazine, my charge
> > was soliciting contributions from women, as the mag was aware that
> > women writers had been under-represented. Accordingly, when I met
> > Nadine Strossen (ACLU president) at a Vermont Law School function, I
> > asked her if she would write something for "The Humanist". She said
> > graciously that she would think about it, but I was nonetheless a bit
> > surprised when I received, some time later, an article from her.
> >
> > It was a chapter from her next book. And the thesis was, that women
> > have more to lose from a culture which practices censorship than from
> > a culture which tolerates "pornography". I think she was right.
> >
> > For one thing, laws designed to "protect" women from objectification
> > and exploitation in porn are in fact too often employed against
> > feminist enterprises in which explicit discussion of sexuality
> > (Think, "Our Bodies, Ourselves") is part of their mission. For
> > another, many women feel that writing or performing or reading or
> > watching sexually explicit material is a part of their sexual
> > expression, and they have a right to revel in that expression.
> >
> > If you're concerned about exploitation, pass laws that protect sex
> > workers . . . don't ban the medium.
> >
> > Now, I'm in agreement with the poster who said some sexually explicit
> > material is a turn-on and some isn't. (I sincerely hope it CAN be
> > because I've written a strongly feminist highly erotic novel. Anyone
> > want to read it?)
> >
> > One thing I hold against a lot of mainstream porn is that it creates
> > unrealistic expectations in inexperienced boys about what women are
> > actually LIKE in sex. I have never seen a porno movie in which a
> > woman had an obvious orgasm. A boy who expects his sex partner to
> > behave like a porn star is going to be REALLY surprised and taken
> > aback when his partner (if she is lucky enough!) stiffens out,
> > becomes oblivious, shudders, grimaces, and gets a flush all over her
> > chest! And when she discourages his caresses in the immediate aftermath.
> >
> > For that matter, HE's not going to find he can perform the way he
> > THINKS the studs in the x-rated video perform . . . he doesn't
> > realize how many different "takes" are spliced together to make the
> movie.
> >
> > And most REAL women have blemishes. They have hairs around their
> > nipples, or stretch marks on their thighs. There is some gray in
> > their pubic hair. (Horrors!) They have moles. They have
> > zits. They carry some extra fat, or they are bony, or they are
> > bowlegged, or have wrinkles. You know what? They fart
> > sometimes. They have to get up and go pee. They don't often really
> > get transported into ecstasy by smearing semen all over their faces.
> > They are BEAUTIFUL but they are not like the depillated,
> > silicone-augmented, concealer-treated, made-up, carefully coifed
> > women in the videos.
> >
> > How's that for a rant? My computer is going to warn me that this
> > message may be offensive.
> >
> > But, no matter how much we may be repulsed by sexually explicit
> > material, we MUST NOT censor it if we value our freedom. People who
> > don't like it don't have to look at it.
> >
> > Valerie
> >
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