Re: [UUPoly-L] old vs. new relationships?



Brigitte Fires wrote:
'monogamy mind-set' expects/allows primary r'ships to be changed
'poly mind-set' doesn't.
So, I really have no idea what you mean by tha last statement


I also seem to be un-hip to what that last was supposed to mean. Poly mindsets can allow for primary partners to change, and for those of us who don't wait until we're married to be poly, there is no reason why changing of primaries would not be an option.

It's late, so I probably shouldn't try to answer this now - but I have a feeling that if I don't get my "roundtuit" now, I won't ever :-)


I have a very strong primary relationship with Sam. Someone new coming in to our lives would certainly affect our relationship - to say that they wouldn't would be silly. We would have to find time to be with other people, but we're poly, and we are open to doing so - just as parents "find" time for new babies when they come into the family. Nobody ever questions that it will happen, because it has to!

Whether one does it with more or less grace - and more or less drama - is the sticking point. And finding not just more time, but more emotional and physical energy, more of every other kind of resource, is just something that one has to do. Resources get reallocated. It's the reality of our lives when anything changes the way things are balanced. It might happen because of changes in the workplace or a move or spending more time with a particular friend or having a new child or having children leave home or caring for elderly parents, but those changes are a normal part of life.

As poly people, we just accept that we'll accept the changes that come with new partners from time to time, too. We try to learn to do so as well as possible. Some of us develop good support networks and learn how to lean on them more when our primary partners have a new SO. Some folks never do.

Learning to find the "sweet spot" in terms of honoring current relationships while enjoying the magic of a new one is one of those Big Things in the poly toolkit. It may require writing notes to oneself or otherwise making a conscious attempt to REMEMBER to pay court to preexisting loves, but it's worthwhile, whatever you have to do. NRE causes severe, sudden onset ADD even in people who are otherwise completely focused and organized.

For me and Sam, NRE with someone else tends to spill over into our own relationship, which is a bonus.

As far as a poly vs. monogamy mindset, one of the reasons I don't worry about someone new coming into our lives is because I know I'm not going to be replaced. Someone else may become very important to Sam, certainly. There may come a day when he wants someone else to live with us and share our lives as another primary. I'll deal with that if and when it happens, but I certainly don't find the idea upsetting. In fact, I'd be quite happy to find another primary, myself. In fact, I had a "wife" with whom we lived for 18 months. But nobody will ever "replace" Sam, so he has no reason to be jealous or insecure. Nobody will be cutting either of us "out of the herd." In fact, that kind of mindset is one reason we aren't WITH the ex-wife any more.

I've seen that kind of thinking all too often, though, and it is reason for concern. There are people who get involved with polyamorous people who are already in committed relationships who SAY that they respect the current relationships, that they are poly, etc. and so on, when they actually have no interest in having multiple committed relationships. They've targeted a member of a couple/triad/quad/etc. and will only be around as long as it takes to lure him or her away from the poly family. It's one reason we're reluctant to get involved with anyone who hasn't been poly for a while before meeting us. Acting as training wheels is right out.

Long-lasting poly relationships are possible. Sam and I were both involved with other people when we met. We met and started dating in 1998, and we're still very much together in 2007. We've even got friends who are former SOs. It isn't all about drama!

Namaste,
Cyn


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