Re: [UUPoly-L] Muncie?

Unfortunately, sometimes these ministers that like to lay hands on people are often the so-called full gospel charismatic/pentecostal type that answer to no one but God, Gonads, and Greed.

I had to deal this past summer with some aftershocks of a Texas Church giving an overly-generous severence package to a philandering minister. I guess they took him to one side of the county line and told him to keep moving, and took the woman he philandered with to the opposite side and told her to Remember Lot's Wife. They apparently loved the minister more than the local newspaper that published the scoop in the first place. He had apparently told many that he had put his skirt chasing behind him. Obviously he hadn't.

Part of the beauty of polyamory is that it can create wondrous contingencies when monogamy leaves someone with no love at all. It will take awhile for those in more traditional faiths to figure it out, considering how rough it has been for UU poly folk.

I hope things work out. You have my support and prayers.

Tim


From: "David VanHorn" <dvanhorn@microbrix.com>
Reply-To: uupoly-l@uupa.org
To: UUPoly-L@uupa.org
Subject: [UUPoly-L] Muncie?
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 14:40:11 -0500

Anyone else on here from Muncie Indiana?

I have a bit of a situation that I want to discuss with someone..
My wife attends a different church locally, that I have big problems with.
Unfortunately, the minister there knows us, and I can't talk to him about
why I have problems there without potentially creating problems for my wife.

Some of the issues are poly, and I think I might have a better chance of a
"fair hearing"  from the UU side.  :)    It's complicated.

One thing that I found very disturbing that I will share here, at the end of
the service, the pastor invited everyone down front and said "Don't worry,
nobody's going to lay hands on you"... Well that lasted about a minute, and
he was laying hands on everyone he could reach, saying that we'd just have
to forgive him...

Personally, this bothers me a lot. First, if I can't trust him to keep his
promises, then how can I trust him at all? I didn't see that he asked
anyone before touching them, and the whole thing came off in a REALLY creepy
way to me.. If I can't trust him on something so seemingly trivial, then
how can I trust him not to take what I tell him about my situation and use
it against my wife? Now he apparently wanted us to forgive him, being all
swept up in the moment and all, but he is in charge there, and it's nowhere
near his first time at bat. Call me wrong on this, but I do hold ministers
or facilitators to the highest standards of behaviour. What's his excuse?

Second, especially after HAI, touching someone without consent bothers me on
that level too.

The minister's talk was on "new beginnings", and I was so tempted to relate
the story of what happened to me this christmas, but it's VERY poly, and I
think I would just blow his fuses and get myself, and maybe my wife thrown
out. (WWJD?)


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