Re: [UUPoly-L] Lucille song

["David Hall" <airsafe1@comcast.net>]

I knew this list had an answer ;-) 

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polyfi@comcast.net
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 4:08 PM
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Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Lucille song

Here's the chorus from great country song, Lucille:

[Chorus]
"You picked a fine time to leave me, Lucille With four hungry children and a
crop in the field.
I've had some bad times,
I've lived through some sad times,
But this time the hurtin' won't heal.
You picked a fine time to leave me, Lucille.

And, yes, Ruby took her love town, that's in another song, ha ha.
Dave 

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From: John Ullman <jsu627@earthlink.net> 

> David Hall wrote: (On 02:33 PM 6/24/2007)
> >Didn't Lucille run out as well??? I'm not much of a music guy. 
> 
> Lucille is BB King's guitar. :-)
> 
> Then there is always Joleen... 
> 
> >Dave
> > 
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: uupoly-l-bounces+airsafe1=comcast.net@uupa.org
> >[mailto:uupoly-l-bounces+airsafe1=comcast.net@uupa.org] On Behalf Of 
> >John Ullman
> >Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 11:13 AM
> >To: uupoly-l@uupa.org
> >Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Poly Not As Fun As Cheating
> > 
> >I agree in principal, but it's sort of like when is it OK for an 
> >older man to have an affair with a teenager. Sometimes, maybe, 
> >depending on who, but generally not. Also, the song is Ruby, Don't 
> >Take Your Love to Town... :-)
> > 
> >John
> > 
> >David Hall wrote: (On 10:51 AM 6/24/2007)
> > >Jack Morin, in his book "The Erotic Mind" asked people about their 
> > >most erotic experience, and one feature of many answers was doing 
> > >something risky, illegal, or likely to be exposed to others. So 
> > >cheating, for some, gives a thrill that makes the experience more 
> > >erotic. Of course, one can find other ways to make sex thrilling 
> > >beside cheating, like having several deep love connections that are new
in many different ways.
> > > 
> > >While cheating is looked down upon by poly folk, sometimes it is 
> > >the best way to keep life on an even keel, and is the most ethical 
> > >way to solve multiple conflicting goals. I think of "Lucille, don't 
> > >take your love to town" type situations. A husband that needs 
> > >continuing physical care, is not sufficiently open to handle his 
> > >wife's need for sexualoveing
> >from someone. 
> > >She loves him deeply, does not want to hurt him, is horny as hell 
> > >and has a loving friend who also needs to keep his family together. 
> > >I guess my point is that while cheating isn't the "best" solution 
> > >to some problems, it might be the only one, and we should give some 
> > >space for others to make choices we "think" we wouldn't.
> > > 
> > >Dave
> > > 
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: uupoly-l-bounces+airsafe1=comcast.net@uupa.org
> > >[mailto:uupoly-l-bounces+airsafe1=comcast.net@uupa.org] On Behalf 
> > >Of Fritz Neumann
> > >Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 8:56 AM
> > >To: uupoly-l@uupa.org
> > >Subject: [UUPoly-L] Poly Not As Fun As Cheating
> > > 
> > >Thanks so much for these updates, 'Storm!!! 
> > > 
> > >One thing you relayed rang a bell for me: "Another man with a 
> > >European accent seemed to feel that polyamory couldn't possibly be 
> > >as much fun as cheating."
> > > 
> > >I have actually heard this argument frequently of late. And being 
> > >said certainly with a serious tone. It comes in other similar 
> > >forms, like, "Oh, you're just talking about what people have always 
> > >done - you're just trying to sap all the fun and excitement out of it."
> > > 
> > >I must admit, I really don't have a good, quick, response to this
reaction. 
> > >I mean, I could get into an extended discussion about honesty in 
> > >relationships, how cheating spreads STD risks to unknowing 
> > >partners, and so on... but ultimately, those seem long-winded 
> > >responses that don't address the central issue of "fun" and how
polyamory can drain it.
> > > 
> > >Because of course there is some truth to it... I feel we polyfolk 
> > >are simply aware that the costs of that kind of "fun" are just too 
> > >high, and that responsible behavior, while often a more difficult 
> > >road, is ultimately more rewarding and better on our conscience.
> > > 
> > >However, again, even this kind of response starts sapping the "fun"
away... 
> > > 
> > >Any suggestions? I'm looking for a SHORT, concise, effective 
> > >comeback to this charge.
> > > 
> > > >*< Fritz
> > > 
> > > 
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