Re: [UUPoly-L] The Cause, the feminism issue

[Kathleen Reedy <icescience@yahoo.com>]

FYI:
  I am leading a UU course in Adult Programs called "Unraveling the Gender Knot", the curriculum written by the Women and Religion Group.  It examines and offers for discussion the patriarchy alive in our institutions and systems here and now, it's source and a platform for effecting change. .  

Laura Stewart <mathlaura@gmail.com> wrote:
  This is, I believe, the whole problem with striving to specifically be
inclusive of specific groups rather than striving for non-specified
egalitarianism and acceptance. It's very sad. It's a lot like why a
lot of early feminists gave up on equal racial rights and why
race-related civil rights activists didn't want to worry about women's
rights. (And, in my opinion, the whole problem with the original
women's movement as a whole and a big contributor to why we indeed
still have so much gender discrimination.)

What's that line from one of the hymns?

Is it true freedom but to break
Fetters for our own dear sake

-Laura

On 3/2/07, David Hall wrote:
> This was the argument from a senior pastor on a committee I spoke to years
> ago. And one female gay minister on the committee also said, in essence,
> don't screw up what we gay/lesbians have.
>
> Dave
>
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>
> >Have people actually experienced non-acceptance at UU congregations?
>
> I approached one of the ministers in our welcoming congregation for advice
> about this. (A member of the GLBT community, I might add.) I was shocked
> at the argument that came back, something to the extent of, "there were a
> lot of people in the 60s who tried sexual experiments, ruined their lives,
> etc. therefore I don't want our people to be hearing about this through us."
>
> Personally, I think you are at risk to even mention it. Your choice, but be
> aware. (beware?)
>
>
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