Re: [UUPoly-L] Poly reality

[wabaldwin@aol.com]

 I have no problem *in theory* in supporting the right of a man to have several wives.
 
 My problem with the Utah polygamists *begins* with, what they do seems to include forcing teenage girls to marry them.
 
 And goes on from there -- they don't believe in allowing a woman to have several husbands. Or for several men and women to all be married as a group. Or in allowing dignity to gays, lesbians or bisexuals. 
 
 In fact, while they insist that their men are religiously *obligated* to taken several wives, they refer to us polyamorists as "abominations".
 
 Technically, I suppose I do support their desire to have mulitiple wives -- but only equal, consenting, wives.
 
 ...when and if we are allowed polyamorous and gender-inclusive marriage.
 
 Bill
    
 -----Original Message-----
 From: licorice.gumdrop@gmail.com
 To: uupoly-l@uupa.org
 Sent: Fri, 18 May 2007 2:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Poly reality
 
  no, no, no, and NO.

support an institutionalized practice that is sexist, marginalizing,  
and demeaning to women? within a religion that goes out of its way to  
step on the toes of other belief structures?  great cthulhu, NO.

i completely reject the idea that the mormon polygamist struggle is  
part of any struggle, real or otherwise, in which polyamorous people  
as a whole (whatever that may mean) should be engaged.

the argument that if mormon polygamists "do not win civil rights,  
then we will never win them" is completely nonsensical.  it holds  
about as much merit as arguing that if NAMBLA's agenda isn't  
legitimized, the oceans will surely rise twenty feet in the next decade.

i'm sure others will do a much better job at describing the inherent  
injustices of mormon polygamy.  but how does working to legitimize a  
practice that by its very nature denies gender equality affirm or  
promote the inherent worth and dignity of every person?

i apologize if i'm overreacting, but i'm going to go puke now.

        jenny


On May 18, 2007, at 11:38 AM, polyfi@comcast.net wrote:

> I hope that the upcominhg uupa.org, and UU GA's in Portland, will  
> AT THE LEAST, express their support for polygamists in Utah.  I'm  
> not saying we accept polyamy as part of the "normal" polyamory,  
> because it in fact predated modern polyamory. But, the struggle in  
> Utah, is also "our struggle", because if they do not win civil  
> rights, then we will never win them, not even under the UU umbrella.
<snip>
>
> Dave (All Souls UU, Kansas City, Mo)
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