Re: [UUPoly-L] Google Knol Article for Polyamory

[Jim Turner <jim@swankin-turner.com>]

Chuck,

Sorry to be misleading.   The material about swinging presented is quoted from

"There has been a Google Knol article created for Polyamory.
http://knol.google.com/k/james-oneill/polyamory/3czmgkncteg8o/2#";

I foolishly thought that the subject line of my email would connect the material quoted  from that
article to my question "thoughts?"

I appriciate your comments.

Jim


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From: uupoly-l-bounces+jim=swankin-turner.com@uupa.org [uupoly-l-bounces+jim=swankin-turner.com@uupa.org] On Behalf Of CWLee [cwlee@post.harvard.edu]
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 6:03 PM
To: uupoly-l@uupa.org
Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Google Knol Article for Polyamory

"Jim Turner" <jim@swankin-turner.com> wrote:

> Swinging is not polyamory and this subject is many times a
> sore spot when poly people are speaking with non-polys
> about what polyamory is. Swinging, specifically, is
> recreational sex with no emotion tied to it. The swinging
> community usually has rules against forming tight
> emotional relationships with others with which you swing.
> Sometimes people who swing often tire of sex for the
> pleasure of sex and wish a more emotional connection with
> those they share such intimate experience with, and find
> themselves drifting away from swinging and into the
> wonderful and challenging world polyamory.

> This is all not to say that polyamorists cannot also be
> swingers, they can, but both are circles are usually kept
> separate, not only because of philosophical differences,
> but because swinging has such a negative connotation
> associated with it from its '70's origination.
> Contemporary thought is that swinging is wrong and
> immoral; stigmatized by a puritanical social majority and
> is something that is wanted to be avoided as a comparison
> with polyamory while polyamory is working towards
> mainstream acceptance.

> You could have an Open Triad where the relationship
> agreement states that swinging is OK, and one or more of
> the participants engages in swinging. Their specific (Open
> Triad) relationship would still be polyamorous, but the
> relationship with the swinging partners would not be.

> Thoughts?

My thought is that if you had prefaced your comments with
something like "in my opinion," or "in my own experience"
then you would have sounded like a reasonable person sharing
his own views and experience.  But, since you provide no
substantiation for your dogmantic statements, you sound to
me more like a right- or left-wing fanatic 100% convinced
that his view is the only acceptable one and must not be
questioned.

You might consider working on your presentation style,
depending on how you want readers to perceive you.

Best regards to all, Chuck Lee.
----------
CWLee
Former slayer of dragons; practice now limited to sacred
cows.  Believing we should hire for quality, not quotas, and
promote for performance, not preferences.



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