Re: [UUPoly-L] UUPoly-L Digest, Vol 50, Issue 13

[Faith Always <heryn@hotmail.com>]

What a beautiful letter to the President-elect!

 
 When you begin to touch your heart or let your heart be touched, you begin to discover that it's bottomless, that it doesn't have any resolution, that this heart is huge, vast, and limitless. You begin to discover how much warmth and gentleness is there, as well as how much space.
                      -Pema Chodron
 



 EMAILING FOR THE GREATER GOODJoin me> From: uupoly-l-request@uupa.org> Subject: UUPoly-L Digest, Vol 50, Issue 13> To: uupoly-l@uupa.org> Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 12:00:10 -0500> > Send UUPoly-L mailing list submissions to> uupoly-l@uupa.org> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit> http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to> uupoly-l-request@uupa.org> > You can reach the person managing the list at> uupoly-l-owner@uupa.org> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific> than "Re: Contents of UUPoly-L digest..."> > > Today's Topics:> > 1. Re: defense of marriage & the Bible was a troublesomethough> (Linda Fingerson)> 2. Re: Numerous things (K Kylev)> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > Message: 1> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 13:19:34 -0500> From: Linda Fingerson <slyypper@hotmail.com>> Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] defense of marriage & the Bible was a> troublesomethough> To: <uupoly-l@uupa.org>> Message-ID: <BAY104-W25E2E8B15FD54B01DD9568C7110@phx.gbl>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"> > > in reply to Dave Hall & K Kylev, a couple of things come to mind:> > 1. the doc film "The Education of Shelby Knox," about a Lubbock teenager advocating for safe sex information in her public school and the opposition she received from the very many secular & sacred knuckleheads out there, is very good viewing> > 2. can anyone give a review of this book, available from Skinner House, which I haven't read: > The Prophetic Imperative: Social Gospel in Theory and Practice. Richard S. Gilberthttp://www.uua.org/publications/skinnerhouse/browseskinner/titles/20446.shtml> > 3. so if reason or public information isn't going to reclaim the discourse, what about use of the prophetic traditions or of prophecy? > > LInda> > > > > > > > > > From: airsafe1@comcast.net> > To: uupoly-l@uupa.org> > Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 20:40:26 -0800> > Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] defense of marriage & the Bible was a troublesomethough> > > > Yes, it is a quiet and reasoned statement, but I do not expect any Bible> > thumpers to listen or pay any attention. "God said it, I believe it, that> > settles it" is the basic position. Of course, there is that entirely> > non-troublesome statement not to eat shell fish or wear clothing of two> > materials or love your neighbor that can easily be ignored. > > > > Dave> > > > -----Original Message-----> > From: uupoly-l-bounces+airsafe1=comcast.net@uupa.org> > [mailto:uupoly-l-bounces+airsafe1=comcast.net@uupa.org] On Behalf Of K Kylev> > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2008 6:19 PM> > To: uupoly-l@uupa.org> > Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] defense of marriage & the Bible was a> > troublesomethough> > > > Just wondering if anyone had seen this:> > http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27650743/> > > > On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 6:28 AM, Linda Fingerson <slyypper@hotmail.com>wrote:> > > > >> > > the Washington Post has an article on how the vote broke in California:> > >> > >> > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/06/AR2008> > > 110603880.html?sub=AR> > >> > > we need more public information to be distributed regarding certain > > > Bible passages & LGBTQ people & our rights. There's information out > > > there, but it's not reaching the preachers, clearly, and this is one > > > result. A minister at Poly LIving in Feb ran a great workshop, now > > > where are those notes?> > >> > > Cheers! Linda> > >> > > > From: licorice.gumdrop@gmail.com> > > > To: uupoly-l@uupa.org> > > > Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2008 09:06:23 -0500> > > > CC: uupoly-l@uupa.org> > > > Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] a troublesome thought> > > >> > > > not if the passage of all the state-level defense of marriage > > > > amendments are any indication.> > > >> > > > - j> > > >> > > > On Nov 9, 2008, at 6:21 AM, P O <wild_card@sbcglobal.net>> > > >> > > > > So, to bring things back to the main topic, does anyone think this > > > > > election season shows any hopeful signs for Poly Acceptance?> > > > >> > > > > Just tossing in my early morning thoughts.> > > > _______________________________________________> > > > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives.> > > > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about> > yourself.> > > > UUPoly-L mailing list> > > > UUPoly-L@uupa.org> > > > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l> > >> > > _________________________________________________________________> > > Color coding for safety: Windows Live Hotmail alerts you to suspicious > > > email.> > >> > > http://windowslive.com/Explore/Hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_s> > > afety_112008 _______________________________________________> > > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives.> > > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself.> > > UUPoly-L mailing list> > > UUPoly-L@uupa.org> > > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l> > >> > _______________________________________________> > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives.> > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself.> > UUPoly-L mailing list> > UUPoly-L@uupa.org> > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l> > > > _______________________________________________> > The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives.> > Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself.> > UUPoly-L mailing list> > UUPoly-L@uupa.org> > http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l> > _________________________________________________________________> Windows Live Hotmail now works up to 70% faster.> http://windowslive.com/Explore/Hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_faster_112008> > ------------------------------> > Message: 2> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2008 13:42:46 -0800> From: "K Kylev" <sweetbinbi@gmail.com>> Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Numerous things> To: uupoly-l@uupa.org> Message-ID:> <81da8b0f0811151342m2ad8cd5fyf23247f9355a93f7@mail.gmail.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1> > Wanted to share this with you-all:> > An Open Letter to Barack Obama> >Alice Walker on expectations, responsibilities and a new reality that is> almost more than the heart can bear.> >TheRoot.com> >Nov. 5, 2008> >> >Dear Brother Obama,> >> >You have no idea, really, of how profound this moment is for us. Us being> the black people of the Southern United States. You think you know, because> you are thoughtful, and you have studied our history. But seeing you deliver> the torch so many others before you carried, year after year, decade after> decade, century after century, only to be struck down before igniting the> flame of justice and of law, is almost more than the heart can bear. And> yet, this observation is not intended to burden you, for you are of a> different time, and, indeed, because of all the relay runners before you,> North America is a different place. It is really only to say: Well done. We> knew, through all the generations, that you were with us, in us, the best of> the spirit of Africa and of the Americas. Knowing this, that you would> actually appear, someday, was part of our strength. Seeing you take your> rightful place, based solely on your wisdom, stamina and character, is a> balm for the weary warriors of hope, previously only sung about.> >> >I would advise you to remember that you did not create the disaster that> the world is experiencing, and you alone are not responsible for bringing> the world back to balance. A primary responsibility that you do have,> however, is to cultivate happiness in your own life. To make a schedule that> permits sufficient time of rest and play with your gorgeous wife and lovely> daughters. And so on. One gathers that your family is large. We are used to> seeing men in the White House soon become juiceless and as white-haired as> the building; we notice their wives and children looking strained and> stressed. They soon have smiles so lacking in joy that they remind us of> scissors. This is no way to lead. Nor does your family deserve this fate.> One way of thinking about all this is: It is so bad now that there is no> excuse not to relax. From your happy, relaxed state, you can model real> success, which is all that so many people in the world really want. They may> buy endless cars and houses and furs and gobble up all the attention and> space they can manage, or barely manage, but this is because it is not yet> clear to them that success is truly an inside job. That it is within the> reach of almost everyone.> >> >I would further advise you not to take on other people's enemies. Most> damage that others do to us is out of fear, humiliation and pain. Those> feelings occur in all of us, not just in those of us who profess a certain> religious or racial devotion. We must learn actually not to have enemies,> but only confused adversaries who are ourselves in disguise. It is> understood by all that you are commander in chief of the United States and> are sworn to protect our beloved country; this we understand, completely.> However, as my mother used to say, quoting a Bible with which I often> fought, "hate the sin, but love the sinner." There must be no more crushing> of whole communities, no more torture, no more dehumanizing as a means of> ruling a people's spirit. This has already happened to people of color, poor> people, women, children. We see where this leads, where it has led.> >> >A good model of how to "work with the enemy" internally is presented by the> Dalai Lama, in his endless caretaking of his soul as he confronts the> Chinese government that invaded Tibet. Because, finally, it is the soul that> must be preserved, if one is to remain a credible leader. All else might be> lost; but when the soul dies, the connection to earth, to peoples, to> animals, to rivers, to mountain ranges, purple and majestic, also dies. And> your smile, with which we watch you do gracious battle with unjust> characterizations, distortions and lies, is that expression of healthy> self-worth, spirit and soul, that, kept happy and free and relaxed, can find> an answering smile in all of us, lighting our way, and brightening the> world.> >> >We are the ones we have been waiting for.> >> >In Peace and Joy,> >Alice Walker> > > On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 8:47 AM, K Kylev <sweetbinbi@gmail.com> wrote:> > > Since long before the election I have felt a strong call to intercede> > for the Barack, his family and their inner-circle---and their protection has> > been atop of my affirmative-prayers for him/them. The more of us standing> > together in prayer the stronger the prayer-shield around them. Thank you to> > anyone who is praying and who will take on continuous prayer. I am> > committed and am very grateful for the call from The Holy Spirit.> > Blessings to you all.> >> > On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 4:00 AM, licorice gumdrop <> > licorice.gumdrop@gmail.com> wrote:> >> >> no kidding. my understanding is that it was a giant bulletproof> >> parenthesis that arced up partially over the stage as well. and I've> >> read reports that O's security has been uncommonly tight, given the> >> large number of credible threats against him. that's one brave family.> >>> >> On Nov 11, 2008, at 5:38 PM, "Richard Keenan" <RiKeena1@wsc.edu> wrote:> >>> >> > the next part is critical...we must keep our new President alive and> >> > healthy...did you> >> > notice the bullet proof glass on either side of him in the Grant> >> > Park Speech?> >> _______________________________________________> >> The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives.> >> Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself.> >> UUPoly-L mailing list> >> UUPoly-L@uupa.org> >> http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l> >>> >> >> > > ------------------------------> > _______________________________________________> The UUPoly-L mailing list has public archives.> Please keep that in mind when deciding how much to reveal about yourself.> UUPoly-L mailing list> UUPoly-L@uupa.org> http://www.uupa.org/mailman/listinfo/uupoly-l> > > End of UUPoly-L Digest, Vol 50, Issue 13> ****************************************