Re: [UUPoly-L] marriage/civil union/whatever

["david vanhorn" <polydvh@gmail.com>]

On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 11:19 PM, Fantine <fantine@sonic.net> wrote:
> Why do people say they don't want government involved
> in marriage?  Marriage/Civil Union/whatever is a
> collection of LEGAL agreements, the stuff government is
> made of, as legislatures make law and courts enforce
> them.

I think those who say that are mistaken, as you point out, marriage is
a civil matter.
I think they are reacting to the existing situation where the
government is improperly enforcing one religions idea of what marriage
should and should not be.


> Personally, I think we should give the word "marriage"
> to churches etc. (with whatever sticky wicket rules
> each group wants to play by) and have a different term
> for the legal arrangement, such as "civil union" or
> "domestic partnership" for EVERYBODY gay or straight.
> You would have to have a "civil union" filed to get a
> "marriage license", in order to be "married" by a
> spiritual leader.

As long as civil unions aren't relegated to second class status
legally, then I'm fine with that.
I support 100% the right of any church to decide who they will and
will not marry, for whatever reasons they choose, but a marriage done
by Justice of the Peace, or a different church, should not have to
conform to some other church's ideas.

Of course if poly unions ever take off, the legal aspects will get
interesting, but that's what they get paid the big bucks to sort out,
right?


> Have fun with this thought,
>        Francesca
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: uupoly-l-bounces+fantine=sonic.net@uupa.org
> [mailto:uupoly-l-bounces+fantine=sonic.net@uupa.org] On
> Behalf Of Anita Wagner
> Sent: Monday, November 24, 2008 1:24 AM
> To: uupoly-l@uupa.org
> Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] UUPoly-L Digest, Vol 50, Issue
> 19
>
> It's true that poly marriage is not a high priority for
> poly people in general.  Personally I'd much rather see
> government get out of the marriage business
> altogether.
>
>
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