Re: [UUPoly-L] marriage/civil union/whatever

[Anita Wagner <imapolygirl@yahoo.com>]

John says it well, as usual.  For a great analysis of these issues, I recommend Beyond Same-Sex Marriage - A New Strategic Vision.  

http://www.beyondmarriage.org

Along with many others I'm a signatorie of the beyond marriage statement.

Anita Wagner 




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From: John Ullman <jsu627@earthlink.net>
To: uupoly-l@uupa.org
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 8:28:42 AM
Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] marriage/civil union/whatever

The problem with how government treats marriage is that it assumes it 
means a couple. The real issue is why give couples any special 
rights? I agree that marriage is a sacrament and belongs to religious 
institutions. Since in the US, anyone can make up their own religion, 
that works out fine.

What we really need is a set of uniform personal rights, not special 
rights for couples.

The government should be looking out for the interests of children, 
the elderly, disabled, etc irrespective of their or their parents 
marital status. The government might be an OK place to register any 
marriage contracts, like we register real estate contracts, but I 
have  never heard anyone say the felt they should be able to keep a 
copy of their prenups on file at city hall.

John U

Fantine wrote:          (On 08:19 PM 11/24/2008)
>Why do people say they don't want government involved
>in marriage?  Marriage/Civil Union/whatever is a
>collection of LEGAL agreements, the stuff government is
>made of, as legislatures make law and courts enforce
>them.
>
>Personally, I think we should give the word "marriage"
>to churches etc. (with whatever sticky wicket rules
>each group wants to play by) and have a different term
>for the legal arrangement, such as "civil union" or
>"domestic partnership" for EVERYBODY gay or straight.
>You would have to have a "civil union" filed to get a
>"marriage license", in order to be "married" by a
>spiritual leader.
>
>Have fun with this thought,
>        Francesca


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