[UUPoly-L] "Deflowering" (was RE: enough already)

["Catherine Deville" <catdeville@cox.net>]

What really gets me about this whole discussion is that you're entirely
ignoring history, and the whole *connotation* behind what "deflowering" was,
and why it can only happen to women.

Someone said that they didn't understand why female virginity was so
important in our culture, and that statement in and of itself ignores
millennia of history and decades of feminist awareness.

Folks, men can't be "deflowered" because they have no hymen.  Women are not
"deflowered" by any act accept vaginal sex which penetrates the hymen.  And
the reason that this is important is that a woman who is not "virgo intacta"
is worthless as a bride, since there is no assurance that any heir she bears
will belong to *you*. And that blows away the entire structure of
patrilineal inheritance. 

And *that's* why female virginity is important in this (and many other,
patriarchal, cultures), and it's also why only women can be "deflowered".
Because a man cannot be "despoiled" by sexual intercourse. 

So, the whole reason why men can't be deflowered, is because they're not the
ones who are chattel.  They're not the ones who were used for millennia as
brood mares. And who had access to their bodies was not relevant in
determining their value. 

What's the quote?  "Those who ignore (or forget) history, are doomed to
repeat it?"

NT, 
Cat

-----Original Message-----
From: uupoly-l-bounces+catdeville=cox.net@uupa.org
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Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 7:32 AM
To: uupoly-l@uupa.org
Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] enough already

 
In a message dated 9/30/2008 4:50:36 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
licorice.gumdrop@gmail.com writes:

now,  back to the male deflowering question: it would depend which part  
of  the anatomy was involved, wouldn't it?


I suppose that *I* don't really mean physical "deflowering" at all.
 
I just mean, "the first time you had sex" -- still leading back to your  
question, really.
 
I had anal sex and manual sex and oral sex several years before I had  
vaginal sex.
 
So, if people ask when I "lost my virginity".....what do I say???????
Which 
act "deflowered" me??
 
And does it really matter?  And why??  And is the question any  different
for 
women?
 
(ps -- all the actions in question did involve the same body part, for me!  
<grin>...just not for them)
 
Bill



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