Re: [UUPoly-L] "Deflowering"

["Married Lesbians" <marriedlesbians@gmail.com>]

And then there are those that never had a hymen.  Male to Female
transsexuals after surgery have ALL the body parts of genetic women
necessary for intercourse and orgasm.  However, in our case, losing ones
viginity; and I choose that term over deflowering, is a matter of having
vagina/heterosexual sex for the first time. It has nothing to do with what
is ripped, cut, or broken.  Gypsey

On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 12:13 AM, Roza <alliumphobia@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> > >  But having a hymen or not doesn't prove virginity, because the hymen
> can
> > > be lost in non-sexual ways...
> >
> > And a woman can easily have many kinds of sex other than intercourse, get
> > STD's, and become pregnant without rupturing the hymen.  There are even
> > women who have hymens that are fairly stretchable, in some cases allowing
> > them to have intercourse without rupturing it.
>
> what disturbed me when was my friend was having surgery near her genital
> area, and she asked the doctor, "while you are down there, would you please
> cut my hymen?"  she has a very thick hymen, and she didn't want to deal with
> the potential pain of breaking it when she got around to having vaginal sex.
>  he refused, telling her that her husband would thank him someday.  i think
> about that and i shiver.
> lois mcmasters bujold writes wonderful fantasy and sci-fi, and in one of
> her future universes, one of the cultures has a, to me, very wonderful
> method of dealing with female coming of age.  when a young woman turns 14,
> she gets her ears pierced, her hymen cut, her contraceptive implant injected
> into her, and she is offered the services of a licensed sexual professional
> -- i forget the exact title.  but think of a place in which sex for pleasure
> is assumed, where people can experiment and learn together and separately
> and in which the practical needs of safer sex are part of coming of age!
>  *sigh*  i dream on.  perhaps this would not work in our world, and i know
> it can't happen anytime soon, not in the casual 'of course' manner that
> bujold suggests.  but oh, what an idea.
> roza
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