Re: [UUPoly-L] UUPoly-L Digest, Vol 48, Issue 30

[deafraven@aol.com]

I think a lot of our problems with people who are so against Polyamory and polygamy are that the assumptions that love in limited or that there isn't enough love in the world and also the assumption that someone in the poly relationship is being forced or being made a unwilling victim of the man who wants more than one women... I'm still struggling with the idea is there ever really is a good way to confront these untruths. 
Johnny 
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-----Original Message-----
From: "Toni Coles" <ajcoles@gmail.com>

Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 10:10:25 
To: <uupoly-l@uupa.org>
Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] UUPoly-L Digest, Vol 48, Issue 30


Many of the people I have run into who object to polyamoury on moral grounds
although raised in a Xtian denomination aren't necessarily practicing that
religion.  Their opinion is more on a feeling that monofidelity is the
honest & rightful way.  Hence all the terms like cheating, sneaking around,
illegitimate relationship....  The list goes on & I'd bet that you have
heard all of the same things that I have.  I suspect that it may come from
the lessons taught to them as growing up but it is in fact more of an
ingrained concept in our society.  I know I am stating the obvious in that
last sentance but let's face it, be it a talk show or a song or an elected
official's outing it goes beyond religion.  As I write this I realized that
one of the people I remember being the most adament that not to be mono was
to be dishonest never practiced any religion from the time zi was a child.

I can't get beyond the idea that being against poly comes from a sense of
ownership for one's spouse &/or a sence of insecurity.  That is really where
anyone that I have encountered comes down to at the core of it when I have
discussed it with them in depth.



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> Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2008 17:01:48 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Desmond Ravenstone <desmondravenstone@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [UUPoly-L] Epistemology and Polyamory
> To: uupoly-l@uupa.org
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> Actually, there are people who oppose polyamory on grounds other than the
> Bible.  You may remember that over a year ago, there was a UU minister
> arguing vociferously against polyamory, appealing to general moral and
> sociological standards.
>
> As to the earlier comment that "my epistemology is better than your
> epistemology": I did not, and would not, phrase it in such a way.  A more
> accurate response would be: "What epistemology?"  When you state that any
> claim can be considered valid on any grounds whatsoever, how are you even
> addressing the basic question of how we can know anything?  And when you are
> dealing with real people in the real world, how do you expect to either
> learn from them or persuade them to consider your viewpoint?  That's not
> being snotty -- it's being practical.
>
> Desmond Ravenstone
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